Ground anchors

[headlesschicken]

Couldn't find a relevant forum to post this under..
I'm looking for a way to secure my 2 bikes in the garage - crf230 and bandit.
Have looked at these http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Other/auction-136857604.htm
To bolt into the concrete and possibly use a longer chain to go through both frames with a big padlock. What are your thoughts? Too easy for a theif with bolt cutters? Unfortunately the garage doesn't have a side door atm so access is easily gained. I live in the country on the farm i work on...

[Mully]

Get an alarm:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=47135&highlight=alarm

Which will work anywhere.

[headlesschicken]

but what about my dirtbike? thats the easiest to steal. i don't really want an alarm on it. could the anchor itself be cut through? you can get cut resistant chains..

[spookytooth]

anything can be cut through.If the assholes want to steal it that badly consider it stolen :( Chains locks ect just make it harder

[Headbanger]

all you can hope to do is slow them down, Especially with the likes of cordless grinders that can be bought for $20.

My bike has 2 floor anchors, steel bars across the doorway, a half dozen padlocks, and a montired alarm where its locked up.

[FROSTY]

Like others have said If they want the bikes they'll get em.
My kids bikes I've given up on securing at home. Now they "live" in a location in mangawai.

[Motu]

The Oxford is a very cheap anchor - but excellent value for money,I've got one.The Abus is better,but expensive,and I have one of these too.Don't use a chain (but I do) but measure how much to go around both bikes and get a thick wire rope made that size with eyes swaged in each end - these are much harder to cut than a chain.You can take one bike out and double loop the other.Alarms are bullshit - mine had been going for a couple of hours the other day.You are relying on your neighbours to give a damn.....mine don't.

The most important theft deterrent is to not advertise you have bikes in the garage - get them in and out quick,don't run them too much at home.Passive security is the easiest and cheapest you can get.

[99TLS]

a friend had his alarmed ducati bolted to the floor in his alarmed garage and the bastards still got it, was insured so got paid out

[RDJ]

It's quite true that with enough time and enough determination anything can be stolen. But time cutting throuh chains etc. even with grinders worries criminals, as it raises the likelihood someone will notice them or you will come home.

And while it is of course true that 'professional' bike thieves will not be deterred by the extra time and trouble to bypass or cut through your safety precautions, the amateur ilk will probably give up and go away.

After all, the misbegotten offspring of putrefaction incarnate are thieving precisely because anything that requires grit, determination, the will to succeed, delayed gratification and hard work is alien to them anyway.

So ground anchors and chains and alarms will reduce the incidence of "casual" loss of your bikes.

As for the professionals? Ask for one of Charl's devices next Christmas http://www.gettingit.com/article/69

[Disco Dan]

My Dad is an engineer and made me this... which I painted and made it look nasty :whistle:

Does the trick.. just a few dynabolts straight into the concrete and then hammered over.

[headlesschicken]

Don't use a chain (but I do) but measure how much to go around both bikes and get a thick wire rope made that size with eyes swaged in each end - these are much harder to cut than a chain.

Where would I get this done? and how much $?

[spookytooth]

[QUOTE=RDJ;1388565]It's quite true that with enough time and enough determination anything can be stolen. But time cutting throuh chains etc. even with grinders worries criminals,

]saw a vid on here last year the guy cut a pretty decent looking hardened chain in around 60 secs with a big pair of bolt cutters.I have been told that wire rope's not so easy

[F5 Dave]

Where would I get this done? and how much $?

You want to find a rigging company in the yellow pages. in Petone it is Cooke. Get the swaged crimps big so that they can't easily chomp through with a pair of biters I mean bolt cutters. Get covered with plastic flexi pipe so as not to scratch paintwork. As Motu says avoid washing/displaying your bike in public. Lay out some rope or whatever & plan how you will run it. The thicker the harder it is to bend tight radius (& thus get in & out).

[titirangi]

why not jus insure your bike?

[spookytooth]

why not jus insure your bike?

some ppl actually like the bikes they own and would like to keep them

[Patch]

Install a gps thingy me bob on your motor sickle and have it monitored. Then you'll know everytime your battery is disconnected or some coont is trying to thief it.

or

get two dogs and have an automatic firing system aimed at your door with a hair trigger (just remember to have your mates ring before coming round) :buggerd:

or

own sumthing no bastard will steal

[F5 Dave]

why not jus insure your bike?
Duh. Because you pay for it eventually. The insurance co won't just take it on the chin. Excess, then depreciated value of machine as a payout, followed by increased premiums from then on. esp if it happens more than once.
That's how lowlife scum often justify stealing, 'oh but it will be insured'. We all end up paying for it.