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SLP
22nd January 2008, 13:53
Guys i have just purchased a 1995 Heritage Softail and bugger me as soon as I got home I couldnt start it as follows.

Symptom: Starter motor won't start. You can hear a relay pulling in when you push the start button but nothing else happens.

Additionally there is no nautral light, no horn, no indicators or stop light but the main lights work fine indicating the battary is fine (and I have checked). I noticed the horn and indicators stopped while riding the bike home and as soon as I stopped the starter motor was added to the list of things no longer powered.

I have checked the main ignition switch and volts are transported in and out on all the correct pins when turned.

I suspect it is a large fuse somewhere or a relay not engaging but can't tell and don't know where to look for such a fuse as I don't have a service manual yet. So can anyone tell me where to look for the magic fuse/relay of where I can get a wiring diagram in a hurry. Really like to have a ride this weekend.

Thanks a bunch.

SLP

surfer
22nd January 2008, 17:49
Good place to start is with the fuses. Don't know your bike to point you in the right direction as to where to find them though.

See if you can download a manual, and an electrical diagram for your machine as well in case you have a short. You will know if the wiring is shorting out if it does it again.

The wiring diagram will give you a clue as to what circuit to start looking at and testing. If it is shorting out do not try and by-pass the problem by hot wiring it up as this will pass the load onto the next part of the wiring circuit which could well be something expensive to fix or replace.

Also check your battery voltage with a multimeter just in case it is a bit on the low side (multimeter cost $40 from DickSmith).

I try and carry a few spare fuses with me and a few tools just in case.

Good luck and let us know what you find.

desmo dave
22nd January 2008, 18:53
bridge the solernoid and see if it cranks over.

Wheeliemonsta
23rd January 2008, 13:08
Guys i have just purchased a 1995 Heritage Softail and bugger me as soon as I got home I couldnt start it as follows.

Symptom: Starter motor won't start. You can hear a relay pulling in when you push the start button but nothing else happens.

Additionally there is no nautral light, no horn, no indicators or stop light but the main lights work fine indicating the battary is fine (and I have checked). I noticed the horn and indicators stopped while riding the bike home and as soon as I stopped the starter motor was added to the list of things no longer powered.

I have checked the main ignition switch and volts are transported in and out on all the correct pins when turned.

I suspect it is a large fuse somewhere or a relay not engaging but can't tell and don't know where to look for such a fuse as I don't have a service manual yet. So can anyone tell me where to look for the magic fuse/relay of where I can get a wiring diagram in a hurry. Really like to have a ride this weekend.

Thanks a bunch.

SLP

Gidday,
Check static battery voltage with multimeter, a fully charged battery should have around 12.8 +/- .2 volts in it

Before getting as drastic as bridging the solenoid out, try charging your battery over night if it comes in under the above voltage measurements, if it's a sealed battery chances are the damage has already been done & it's poked in which case replacement is the only real course of action (Pull the top out of the battery once it's on the bench, if you can see the lead plates etc etc theres a good chance it's seen much better days...)

In the interim you can jump start it with another battery (if your going to use a car, DONT have the car running when you jump the bike, you risk spiking the electronics in the car when the bike starts etc etc) once started break out your trusty multi meter (set to Volts or something similar for measuring voltage) & stick it across the terminals on the battery (red = + black = -) you want to be seeing 14.5 ~ 14.8 volts across the terminals with the motor running at about 2500 rpm - this will give you an idea if all is well with the rest of the charging system...

Get used to the fact that Harleys shit regulator recticifiers with monotinous regularity - you can fit a Honda unit to most of them but this requires modifacation to the wiring loom which once done cant be easily reversed...

Give that lot a whirl & see how you go, something in the above should get you back up & running...

Cheers

:rockon:

idb
23rd January 2008, 13:16
I'd say that you're on the right track with a blown fuse or crook relay.
I don't know Harleys at all but you need to find out where the electrickery bits are hidden and check them over first.
Do the simple stuff first.

Max Preload
30th January 2008, 22:27
My money is on a dodgy starter - too many short runs between cafe's & pubs.

dmouse
18th February 2008, 10:35
if ya need a diagram pm me i have one scanned on my pc, hope it helps

Conquiztador
22nd February 2008, 20:26
Probably fixed by now, but does this one have a kill switch in the side stand?

scumdog
22nd February 2008, 22:27
Probably fixed by now, but does this one have a kill switch in the side stand?


I don't know of any Harleys with that feature so unlikely.

rok-the-boat
24th April 2008, 23:20
Probably low power in the battery - duff battery or duff charging system ( = duff regulator as the rectifier is inside it).

Sometimes they can kindof stick too - put it in gear and rock it back and forth to free it up.

Otherwise, do as the above people mentioned. If you are local to North Shore, I could take a look.