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Patar
22nd January 2008, 18:54
Hey guys, I'm tentatively looking at getting another 250 and have been pulled towards getting an enduro/cross/whatevername bike so I could join a couple friends out on some dirt tracks every now and again, so my question would be which bike should I get that best suits my needs?

I would want to use the bike for some trail riding, moto-x, blats on the beaches, etc. but I also would like to have it road registered so that I can have a bit of fun on the back roads if i so feel like it.

The bikes that have caught my eye are the Honda CR250R and the KTM 250exc
and slapping a road kit (if it's even possible) on them.

Any information you can give me about those bikes or any other bikes would be great, also the feasability of having two sets of tyres/rims for road and off-road riding.

Cheers :apint:

GR81
22nd January 2008, 19:21
how about my lovely RM250? :niceone:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=137293949

ali-s
22nd January 2008, 19:57
I would want to use the bike for some trail riding, moto-x, blats on the beaches, etc. but I also would like to have it road registered so that I can have a bit of fun on the back roads if i so feel like it.

Hi Patar,
At present I too am looking at getting a 'do it all' steed, if you want to do any (semi) serious mx it's gotta be the ktm (exc + excf) As you can pop some lights on these - one bike on the horizon that does look interesting is the new yami wr250r - road legal- efi -ali frame - wr250x version in motard trim - the list goes on. can't see any info on the yam nz website but lots of other info online (thumptalk etc.) - anyone out there know anything about these ?? price, availability etc.
churs.

Paulus
22nd January 2008, 20:23
My experience using a CR250 as a trailbike is that it has a number of faults. The suspension is too harsh, first gear is too high and top is too low, the gas range is poor, there is no bash plate, the engines power is too explosive for slippery hills and the like, supposedly the 19" rear is easier to flat (I never had problems). Many of these issues can be solved but I would say the KTM EXC would have to be a better choice - you can even ride it on the road. A CR250 is still a hell of a lot of fun as a trail bike! YMMV.

B0000M
22nd January 2008, 20:33
riding a cr250 myself, id say its not the ideal trail bike, but its certainly still good. i also havnt had a problem with the 19' rear, and yea the suspension is a bit harsh, and it does tend to run out of speed. however, on a semi open section in a race/enduro type environment its sheer power makes for some good ass whipping material :rockon:

CaMo
22nd January 2008, 20:44
ktm's EXC200 often comes with a road kit. My mate bought one a while ago and damn those things are quick. Really good bike for trail riding etc....

dammad1
23rd January 2008, 09:53
The ktm comes with the road kit from new, I think you may struggle getting the CR250 road registered.

cheese
23rd January 2008, 10:32
CR250 road legal - very slim chances.

I've not had many troubles with my CR on trails though. I got Danger (Greg) to work on my suspension and its fucking brillaint.

Pierce
23rd January 2008, 11:17
DEfo say steer clear of the CR if you're wanting a trail bike. Good fun however they can be extremely tricky to handle times (haha good fun indeed). I just bought the CR as MX is more my scene and i'm not so keen on the trail side of things but will do the odd one on it.

Personally I think any of the MX 4strokes would be mint. I've got an 06CRF250R while it has no light you can go 250X which has lights and electric start. They've got good torque for those hard to reach places and quite frankly are just rideable bikes.

I'm a honda man thru and thru but I think the only other bike i'd consider buying would be a KATO however i've heard mixed reviews about how well they handle.

Red is the colour of my blood :Police:

Ktmboy
23rd January 2008, 11:35
Personally feel the Yami WR250 enduro is the way to go

With a 2 stroke on the road it would be a pig to ride and you'd be forever stopping to fuel up. Then you have to carry a litre of 2 stroke oil around with ya.

WR's are great for adventure and trail riding, enduros etc as well as cruising along at 100k's

dammad1
23rd January 2008, 17:33
Personally feel the Yami WR250 enduro is the way to go

With a 2 stroke on the road it would be a pig to ride and you'd be forever stopping to fuel up. Then you have to carry a litre of 2 stroke oil around with ya.

WR's are great for adventure and trail riding, enduros etc as well as cruising along at 100k's

If you are going to spend quite a bit of time on the road I would have to agree with this, the two stroke really doesn't like that constant throttle type riding that is used on the road to cruise at a constant speed.

Taz
23rd January 2008, 18:01
Thre 2008 TTR 250 would be worth a look.

ali-s
23rd January 2008, 18:47
looks good
http://www.bikeszone.com/content/view/561/46/

Patar
23rd January 2008, 19:50
Thanks a lot for all the suggestions guys, the bike I'm most interested in at the moment is the ktm exc250f, i have no idea why but i think it's damn sexy.

Does anyone know anything about the availability of the yammi wr250r here in nz and the price?

Ktmboy
23rd January 2008, 20:25
Thanks a lot for all the suggestions guys, the bike I'm most interested in at the moment is the ktm exc250f, i have no idea why but i think it's damn sexy.

Does anyone know anything about the availability of the yammi wr250r here in nz and the price?

I, sexy it is and you have no argument here. Well spec'd and with all the good shit on board. ride them both and draw your own conclusions. If you think that you will do more road riding (60/40) have a ride on a Kawasaki KLX 450.

speedpro
24th January 2008, 13:04
Does anyone know anything about the availability of the yammi wr250r here in nz and the price?

Official release is this weekend in the South Island. Price? - sorry, not yet.

Treventino
24th January 2008, 13:05
KTM all the way fella

takitimu
24th January 2008, 15:32
I, sexy it is and you have no argument here. Well spec'd and with all the good shit on board. ride them both and draw your own conclusions. If you think that you will do more road riding (60/40) have a ride on a Kawasaki KLX 450.

I dunno about the KLX :), I think the KLX engine buzz would get a bit much pretty quick on the road even if you changed the gearing.

I'd recommend Yamaha WR450/250 because the motor is just so smooth.

P.S. I think you'd want to change the KTM seat if you were on the road.

xxblackbirdxx
25th January 2008, 13:24
I would suggest a wr250 or 450. Give Andrew at RED BARON a call, they deal in Yamahas. 09-3607700.
I use a YZ450f myself and also have a TTR230 for the missus which i ride sometimes.
The wr series come ready with all equipment needed to register them on the road and they dont cost as much as the Kato's. Though the i do agree with you that the Kato's are the best looking of the lot.
I used to own a KTM but never really warmed up to the Linkage less rear shock, which is something you might want to be mindful off as not many people get comfortable with it.

dammad1
25th January 2008, 18:07
I used to own a KTM but never really warmed up to the Linkage less rear shock, which is something you might want to be mindful off as not many people get comfortable with it.

What??????????Not many people get comfortable with it?? I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.

marks
25th January 2008, 21:15
The wr series come ready with all equipment needed to register them on the road and they dont cost as much as the Kato's.

actually its $1500 more for a road kitted WR450 making it comparable with a ktm at $14500

crazyxr250rider
25th January 2008, 23:00
actually its $1500 more for a road kitted WR450 making it comparable with a ktm at $14500
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Hes trying to sell him a bike GO YAMAHA

crazyxr250rider
25th January 2008, 23:05
Plus KTM are hard to deal with for parts ect if your bike isnt the latest and greatest (my experience anyho)and i usualy resort to after market parts.

speedpro
26th January 2008, 12:40
Henderson Yamaha have an '06 WR450 with lights etc for $9700. It's only ever been a Yamaha demo bike so it gets financed as if it was a new bike but I'm not sure about warrenty. Steel frame, not alloy, just in case it matters.

marks
26th January 2008, 14:08
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Hes trying to sell him a bike GO YAMAHA

well then I should add that I am really happy with my new/old stock 06 wr450 that I brought new 4 months ago. I've done 70 hrs so far and its been a very steep learning curve going from a chinese 200 but it is an awesome bike and handles like its on rails.