Triumph Tiger 1050 20.000ks Service

[huck farley]

I have a 07 Tiiger1050 (Triumph) It is due for it's 20,000k service. What I would like to know is. What would it cost of a similar bore, European, or Japanese bikes first major service cost it's owners. I have been told mine will be 7 to 9 hundred dollars. Fuck that's a lot of petrol money. What did yours cost??????
Cheers :(
Huck

[Waxxa]

Ouch! I've got a Jappa, took it in for its' 6K service and cost $275. About $70 of that was parts the rest labour and GST. 20K service is gonna be costly!

What about doing an oil and filter change yourself, possibly spark plugs too?
A lot of the service will be spent in cable/bolt checks which takes time and at $60-$70 per hour....

[Devil]

The 20k service on my Speed Four was around $800. That was valve clearances, new fuel filter (which was more expensive than it should have been, but thats been rectified), K&N filter, oil, oil filter, plugs, bout 5 hours labour.

But I knew it was going to be expensive. It's on the list of questions to ask when buying a new bike!

[vifferman]

But I knew it was going to be expensive. It's on the list of questions to ask when buying a new bike!
Very good point! But don't ask the shop - ask other owners. When I asked about the servicing on the Vtec VFR800 (knowing how many hours work was required) they tried to downplay it, and actually halved the normal figure.
(The VTec valve clearance check requires taking off the bodywork, tank, airbox, etc etc to get at the cams, then the four cams have to be taken out and replaced twice. So labour on its own is a lot...)

So, that was one of the reasons I didn't buy a Vtec.

At least being a ghey, boring and well-manufactured bike, you can usually ignore all the valve clearance checks, apart from the 16k one.

[Pixie]

Very good point! But don't ask the shop - ask other owners. When I asked about the servicing on the Vtec VFR800 (knowing how many hours work was required) they tried to downplay it, and actually halved the normal figure.
(The VTec valve clearance check requires taking off the bodywork, tank, airbox, etc etc to get at the cams, then the four cams have to be taken out and replaced twice. So labour on its own is a lot...)

So, that was one of the reasons I didn't buy a Vtec.

At least being a ghey, boring and well-manufactured bike, you can usually ignore all the valve clearance checks, apart from the 16k one.

Why take the cams out twice?

You normally measure the clearances
remove the cams to get at the shims
calculate the new shim size from the existing shim
reassemble.

Oh yeah, do it all over again when the mechanic fucks it up and charge the customer.

Love those V configuration engines - really boosts the labour charge

[vifferman]

Why take the cams out twice?

You normally measure the clearances
remove the cams to get at the shims
calculate the new shim size from the existing shim
reassemble.
It's something to do with the VTec cams - you have to take the cams out, put special tools in to manually activate the VTec valves when the cams are turned (they normally don't activate until certain revs, and then are activated by oil pressure), then put the cams back in again, measure the clearances, then take the cams out again to remove the VTec tools again. :eek5:

Actually, the process is WAY worse than I thought - you have to take more things off than I mentioned; check this out:
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php?autocom=ineo&showarticle=42

For the pre-Vtec bikes, it's WAY easier. Or if you're a lazy ass / tightwad like me, you just ignore it. Apart from fluids, filters, sparkplugs, etc., I haven't had a bike fully serviced since 1996. :crazy:

[cruza]

My scotsman wallet would have a heart attack---$800 for a service:blink:. Wouldn't ride it if I couldn't service it my self

[Bass]

My scotsman wallet would have a heart attack---$800 for a service:blink:. Wouldn't ride it if I couldn't service it my self

That's about what I paid for the Sprint at 20K.
It's pretty comprehensive - valve clearances and fork oil etc etc

[huck farley]

My scotsman wallet would have a heart attack---$800 for a service:blink:. Wouldn't ride it if I couldn't service it my self

I don't know whether or not you have owned a new bike mate. But to keep my warranty valid I am required to keep the servicing up to the mark. By the makers agent. Otherwise down the road if your engine or transmission fucks up. I'm in shit street big time. That is why I don't play around with it myself. I do though as soon as the warranty has expired. I do my own oil and filters though now.

[Sollyboy]

Ouch! I've got a Jappa, took it in for its' 6K service and cost $275. About $70 of that was parts the rest labour and GST. 20K service is gonna be costly!

What about doing an oil and filter change yourself, possibly spark plugs too?
A lot of the service will be spent in cable/bolt checks which takes time and at $60-$70 per hour....

I always thought the first service should be free on the basis of why are we paying them to check that the factory tightened shit properly ,and why does it need a service at just 1000km as they should have done a full hp every gear run on the dyno then dump the oil and change the filter before crating up and sending it off (so Solly can crash it shortly after buying it ), I think the day is here when oil and machineing is so good we should bring the sucker back for its first service at 20,000km

[MD]

Thanks for the heads up. Taken note to change bike at 19,990kms ...bugger, that's about 3 months away at current usage. I guess I wont have to worry about the 12 month rego expirying though.

That does seem high but I had to pay about $700 for my old VTR1000's 24,000km 'major service' once.

[Devil]

Every 20k is a major service on the triumph. You can cut the cost by putting in a K&N filter, so it doesn't have to be replaced again, just cleaned. Investigate different brand fuel filters (BMW do a few that fit Triumphs and are a third of the price).

Am up to 63k on mine from brand new. Did the 60 service myself. Just going to get the shop to do the valve clearances but everything else is easily done.

[YellowDog]

Hi Harley, I should have a 2008 Tiger by now but have to have knee surgery at the end of Feb. I am also getting 2nd thoughts over $23k and I am seriously considering a Bandit, as an easy and cheaper option. I do very much like the Tiger, I don't know if I will make myself afford it. Cheers for the heads up for 20k service.

[huck farley]

I had a gixer 1400 I did 23,000 ks on it in nine months. Most of the time I spent riding on my own. Nice bike but no soul, no character, and no heritage, and no resale value!!

Since I have had the Triumph Tiger I have become involved with the local and national RAT movement. (RAT stands for riders of Triumph association) I have joined the closest RAT pack to me which is the Manawatu pack. As we have no Trumpet dealer in Wangas.

Let me tell you the RAT guys are real good bunch of fellas. I have been to three of the Rat raids this year. Dunedin, New Plymouth Mid winter Raid. Palmerston North last November. They have a raid coming up in Tauranga in March so I will be at that also. Upwards of 130 registrations turn up from all over NZ. We ride up as a pack and are going via North cape to get to it!!

It's great to get back to my roots of motorcycling, I learned to ride on a Tiger cub. Then went up to a Tiger 110 a massive bore in it's day. No Jap bikes around in the early sixties. All Brit bikes and the odd European.

I have nothing against the Bandit, it is a well proven bike and very reliable. But if you want a bike with a soul, character, and a 106 years of British tradition, worksmanship, and engineering. Then go get the "Tiger" you will not regret buying the big "cat" for one minute. Mine cost me $20,990 in Feb 07. They are down to $19,990 now (our dollar is higher) and they chuck in two factory side cases, worth a grand. I don't know where you got the $23000 from. The Tiger is nowhere near that price yet. But our dollar is in for a hiding soon so there is no better time than now!! to purchase the big "CAT

[dogsnbikes]

I have a 07 Tiiger1050 (Triumph) It is due for it's 20,000k service. What I would like to know is. What would it cost of a similar bore, European, or Japanese bikes first major service cost it's owners. I have been told mine will be 7 to 9 hundred dollars. Fuck that's a lot of petrol money. What did yours cost??????
Cheers :(
Huck

Depends on where you take your bike....my 20,000 service for the Daytona cost me $1015.00 but there was alot of extras I had done as well....but it did include the shims being cheaked and measured, leakdown test's on all cyclinders....fitting of a rear hugger,K&N air filter($170) a CD with 271 photos and 1 video footage of the servicing

All my major work is done by kerry at triple fourensics in Opunake...and at $40/hr for labour you know your hard earned money is being spent on the bike

Kerry will give you a true cost of what it will cost you and there will be no shock's

[huck farley]

Depends on where you take your bike....my 20,000 service for the Daytona cost me $1015.00 but there was alot of extras I had done as well....but it did include the shims being cheaked and measured, leakdown test's on all cyclinders....fitting of a rear hugger,K&N air filter($170) a CD with 271 photos and 1 video footage of the servicing

All my major work is done by kerry at triple fourensics in Opunake...and at $40/hr for labour you know your hard earned money is being spent on the bike

Kerry will give you a true cost of what it will cost you and there will be no shock's

But is he allowed to do servicing whilst my bike is still in warranty? I somehow think not!! It has to be performed by a Triumph dealership. If not I could loose the remainder of my warranty me thinks.

[cruza]

I don't know whether or not you have owned a new bike mate. But to keep my warranty valid I am required to keep the servicing up to the mark. By the makers agent. Otherwise down the road if your engine or transmission fucks up. I'm in shit street big time. That is why I don't play around with it myself. I do though as soon as the warranty has expired. I do my own oil and filters though now.

Yep last couple have been new , First service done by the agent ,stamped to be on the safe side.

[tri boy]

The Scrambler is in at Ham M/cycles getting the full service (valves etc ) tomorrow. (still under warranty). Will let you know the cost.
Other two services have been approx $280. (no valve set). Plus it comes back sparkling. (hairy's rock:Punk:).

[Pixie]

It's something to do with the VTec cams - you have to take the cams out, put special tools in to manually activate the VTec valves when the cams are turned (they normally don't activate until certain revs, and then are activated by oil pressure), then put the cams back in again, measure the clearances, then take the cams out again to remove the VTec tools again. :eek5:

Actually, the process is WAY worse than I thought - you have to take more things off than I mentioned; check this out:
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php?autocom=ineo&showarticle=42

For the pre-Vtec bikes, it's WAY easier. Or if you're a lazy ass / tightwad like me, you just ignore it. Apart from fluids, filters, sparkplugs, etc., I haven't had a bike fully serviced since 1996. :crazy:
Well that's great,considering Vtec is generally loathed by magazine road testers

[Pixie]

106 years of British tradition, worksmanship, and engineering.

Hah! Just chucked a "British Engineered" Micron can.
When I took it out of the box I thought "well if this lasts I'll eat my words.
In 2 years 2 link pipes failed on my system though poor design of the welds.
Ditto for my brother's pipe.
And finally the end cap cracked an blew off and within a month my brother's did the same.
Piece of crap.

PS what Triumph tradition? the original proprietors were German immigrants.
Bloor is a builder who bought the name and is building bikes with no engineering link to the old triumph (Thank God for that).Some of which are made in Thailand.
I think the lady that makes the tea may have come from the Meriden plant.

[Patch]

Unless you plan on buying a new gixxer - I wouldn't worry too much about your warranty, some of you lot are so anal about things.

To save money on your servicing, either do it yourself, get a friend to do it, or take all the plastics and non-mechancial crap off and deliver to said shop. You'll be surprised how different the bill is and how happier Mr. Mechanic will be.

[tri boy]

Read it n weep.

Full service. Valves, carb syncro, lube etc.
2 x plugs.
1x air filter.
oil/filter/washer.
Running like a scalded cat, n detailed.
$321.00
:clap::clap:
(time to buy another bottle Wild Turkey).

[tri boy]

Unless you plan on buying a new gixxer - I wouldn't worry too much about your warranty, some of you lot are so anal about things.


Nonsense. Two reasonably expensive warranty claims were put through on the Scrambler.
New front wheel assy due to corrosion.
Two front brake disc's at differing milage.
First thing any franchise does is confirm the service record to the milage.
If it has missed the first, second and possibly the third service, warranty is voided.
That was about $3500 of retail parts covered under warranty. Why risk it?

[huck farley]

Yep last couple have been new , First service done by the agent ,stamped to be on the safe side.

I'm talking about the first major service, not the first 500 ks or 1000 ks service. I don't know to my knowledge any manufacturer offering a free service at the ks I have done. Does anyone else?

[huck farley]

Hah! Just chucked a "British Engineered" Micron can.
When I took it out of the box I thought "well if this lasts I'll eat my words.
In 2 years 2 link pipes failed on my system though poor design of the welds.
Ditto for my brother's pipe.
And finally the end cap cracked an blew off and within a month my brother's did the same.
Piece of crap.

PS what Triumph tradition? the original proprietors were German immigrants.
Bloor is a builder who bought the name and is building bikes with no engineering link to the old triumph (Thank God for that).Some of which are made in Thailand.
I think the lady that makes the tea may have come from the Meriden plant.


I don't believe a word of the Micron bullshit. You have just made that up. They (Micron) have an excellent product and quality control second to no one.

Also your comments re The Triumph Brand... I grew up riding Triumphs (no Jap bikes in the early sixties) and in there day were as good as any British, Yank, or European bike. I had a ton of fun on the Meriden's, and pre Unit Trumpets. But Those days are gone. (but not forgotten) and from the ashes has risen a new breed of Trumpet. Thanks to John Bloor. A Triumph that is way cheaper than it's European counterparts. And just as good if not better than some, has risen To take out award after award. Not bad for a chippie aye!!

I suppose if John Bloor turned up at your place with a brand new Triumph. to give to you. With Micron Zorts. You would tell him to take his Nazi bit of shit of a bike and shove it up his fukn arse would you?

Then tell him to get to fuck back to his building site, would you?

As far as I know the only parts from Asia that are on the new Triumphs is the main wiring loom. As the Thai's make the best loom on the planet. And do so for a lot of Japanese, as well as European bike builders.

What's the Ladies name that makes your tea? I may know her!!

[huck farley]

Read it n weep.

Full service. Valves, carb syncro, lube etc.
2 x plugs.
1x air filter.
oil/filter/washer.
Running like a scalded cat, n detailed.
$321.00
:clap::clap:
(time to buy another bottle Wild Turkey).

Full 20.000 service as per the service manual (minus the forks as I have some ohlins gear coming for them) I also supplied my own oil and Filter. Beat your mob hands down $205.90 at NP Motorcycles. When the fork bits arrive only another $140. How come you never got your forks done in the service??

[tri boy]

Boy your Air Filter must be super cheap then.
Or maybe it wasn't replaced........

[huck farley]

Boy your Air Filter must be super cheap then.
Or maybe it wasn't replaced........

Didn't have to do the air filter as I have a K&N in it. But they told me they cleaned it anyway and re oiled it at no charge to me. The mechanic said it only took 5 minutes to do. Anymore Questions? I have a couple for you.

Did they balance the carbs on you two pot Scrambler? Did they do the oil in the forks? Also did they drain and replace the oil in two shockers at the rear of your bike? Your service sounds a bit dodgy mate. Have a look in your service book it lists what should been done!!

[sels1]

I'm about to get a 100,000km service done on my (900)Tiger. Geting estimates from the dealerships in Wgtn and Palmy. I can get it done cheaper by a local shop, but want to download the latest tune that only a dealer can do.

[tri boy]

Carbs do need balancing frequently. Plus the throttle position sensor will wander if left unattended.
Forks are only touched by Robert Taylor, as are the shocks.
The Scrambler needs frequent maintenance due to the harsh conditions it works under (compared to some posers who by dual purpose bikes, and pootle around town n country on the taeseal):shutup:The fat girl is lapping up the sth isld gravel rides.
Hows your pretender doing?

[Mr. Peanut]

I don't know whether or not you have owned a new bike mate. But to keep my warranty valid I am required to keep the servicing up to the mark. By the makers agent. Otherwise down the road if your engine or transmission fucks up. I'm in shit street big time. That is why I don't play around with it myself. I do though as soon as the warranty has expired. I do my own oil and filters though now.

So, buying a new bike is obviously a terrible idea for the private individual. Not only do you lose a chunk in depreciation, you're losing money on excessive servicing costs as well.

Why not buy a used bike that's been through its warranty period, had all its niggles fixed, and the bulk of the depreciation already done? :blank:

[tri boy]

Yeah maybe. But there is nothing like that new bike feel.:whistle: (we are talking about m/cycles still arn't we?):Oops:

[huck farley]

Carbs do need balancing frequently. Plus the throttle position sensor will wander if left unattended.
Forks are only touched by Robert Taylor, as are the shocks.
The Scrambler needs frequent maintenance due to the harsh conditions it works under (compared to some posers who by dual purpose bikes, and pootle around town n country on the taeseal):shutup:The fat girl is lapping up the sth isld gravel rides.
Hows your pretender doing?

I never claimed I was taking my Tiger of road. It appears you have bought a very expensive mud bike. You could have bought a better Jap bike to do all you are doing with it. Still I suppose a lot of you out there are emulating Steve McQueen eh? Probably just another pretender. Who's riding skills perhaps are lacking. Therefore just not quite experienced enough just yet, to handle a mans bike. Such as the likes of a big bore Japanese multi cylinder, or a Triumph triple!!! Hang on in, It won't happen overnight, But it will happen one day.

[tri boy]

The ladies say I have a bigger dick than Steve M.
Shit you bite easily.
Maybe you should get dirty sometime:laugh: