Only 38 people donated organs in 2007

[Steam]

38 people donated organs in 2007. But that is an increase on 2006, when only 25 people donated organs.

So get donating, people!
Make sure your family know you are an organ donor and will sign the release papers.
Original news story here (http://www.donor.co.nz/donor/news/newsitem.php?newsid=1200250951)

[DMNTD]

38 people donated organs in 2007. But that is an increase on 2006, when only 25 people donated organs.

So get donating, people!
Make sure your family know you are an organ donor and will sign the release papers.
Original news story here (http://www.donor.co.nz/donor/news/newsitem.php?newsid=1200250951)

I haven't quite finished with mine just yet but yes,I am registered.

[jrandom]

I haven't quite finished with mine just yet...

Er, yes, I was about to make the same point.

[bugjuice]

38 organs must play some nice music..
can't get too techno on it tho..

I'm donating my nice big organ, when I'm done playing with it

[car]

38 people donated organs in 2007. But that is an increase on 2006, when only 25 people donated organs.

So get donating, people!
Make sure your family know you are an organ donor and will sign the release papers.
Original news story here (http://www.donor.co.nz/donor/news/newsitem.php?newsid=1200250951)

If the ungrateful bastards would take mine, they could have them. But they won't, so I guess it's back to being barbecued and fed to tramps.

[99TLS]

i am a donor as per my licence ,but that dont really mean shit now as family can override this

[Kittyhawk]

I dont want parts of me in other people, its a personal choice....but in saying that, I did volunteer to donate a kidney to dad when I saw him on his death bed...I guess life death situations with family you'd do anything to give them life...Long story short he survived and pulled through with his cancer etc, turns out I couldnt donate, same goes for bloods too.

[riffer]

i am a donor as per my licence ,but that dont really mean shit now as family can override this

I have donor on my licence too but I've recently found out that my being type I diabetic precludes my donating organs. Apparently they're no good.

Just great. With the notable exception of the pancreas they seem to work okay in me.

Fuck em.

[007XX]

I have donor on my licence too but I've recently found out that my being type I diabetic precludes my donating organs. Apparently they're no good.

Just great. With the notable exception of the pancreas they seem to work okay in me.

Fuck em.

It is no reflection on who you are as a person mate...:hug:

It's just they really need organs that are deemed unfailable to help those in need.

[riffer]

It is no reflection on who you are as a person mate...:hug:

It's just they really need organs that are deemed unfailable to help those in need.


So they'd rather they faced certain death by not getting any organs at all?

Sounds like some policy documents that have crossed my desk recently...

[McJim]

Here's a question. I am registered as a donor and everyone in my family knows that BUT I lived in the UK so they won't take my blood - is there any point in being an organ donor?

[007XX]

So they'd rather they faced certain death by not getting any organs at all?

Sounds like some policy documents that have crossed my desk recently...

Settle petal, that's not what I said...and I bet you know it too, eh? :msn-wink:

Medically speaking, someone requiring an organ will have various existing medical issues, some of them as drastic as requiring an organ to be able to live another minute. If that organ is damaged or not working a 100%, then that person's body may not be able to compensate for the organ's deficiency...An organ transplant is a traumatic enough ordeal for the recipient's body without having to deal with a "less than perfect" donor organ.

Even with a perfectly healthy organ, the odds of rejection are great...being a deficient organ (even on a minimal basis such as yours) would increase the odds of rejection for the patient, and this is not an acceptable gamble for the medical people.

So, once again, this is not something that is done to make donors feel rejected for their flaws, but the medical help has to be ruthless to ensure the best healing chances of their patients. Settling for less would be creating more pain and sorrow for their patients.

I think that's fair.

[007XX]

Here's a question. I am registered as a donor and everyone in my family knows that BUT I lived in the UK so they won't take my blood - is there any point in being an organ donor?

That's bizarre...did they say what you living in the UK had to do with not accepting your blood?

[car]

That's bizarre...did they say what you living in the UK had to do with not accepting your blood?

CJD risk, according to the last path tech I spoke to, but she could have been wrong. For obvious reasons, I get the same, with the added seasoning that they wouldn't accept my blood in the UK either, because I've had brain surgery. Again with the CJD risk.

[007XX]

CJD risk, according to the last path tech I spoke to, but she could have been wrong. For obvious reasons, I get the same, with the added seasoning that they wouldn't accept my blood in the UK either, because I've had brain surgery. Again with the CJD risk.

I guess it makes sense...thanks for that.

[YellowDog]

In the UK, they are changing the law so that you are automatically a donor, unless you specifically say you don't want to be one.

I suspect the 'shortage of organs for transplant' problem will go away and there will be so many spare organs that even the Doner Kebab shop owners will be very happy.

[Gremlin]

That's bizarre...did they say what you living in the UK had to do with not accepting your blood?
Its mentioned specifically in the questions for donating blood. You cannot have been in the UK for longer than... mmmm 3 months or 6 months, within certain dates (historical, not current). Naturally this precludes a lot of poms immediately (the dirty buggers :bleh:)

That said, NZ has one of the highest bloody quality rates in the world, probably for many reasons, but the two I know of, strict criteria have to be met, and not being paid to donate, do assist.

I'm listed as a donor, and my family know. I would have blinged dmntd... but kb wouldn't let me :pinch:

[Bikernereid]

As a Brit I can't see why our blood should not be acceptable. I would have thought that they could do the usual Hep B etc tests to make sure that you are 'clean'. And at the end of the day I would have thought thay they would be crying our for blood, no matter where your origins.

And if they do reject you blood I would have thought that it would follow that your organs would be rejected too, but I am not a doctor.


Here's a question. I am registered as a donor and everyone in my family knows that BUT I lived in the UK so they won't take my blood - is there any point in being an organ donor?

[Mekk]

I cannot come up with a good, rational reason why a healthy person would not donate their organs.

[stanko]

I wonder if the people who say "I would never donate" would also say "Naa sorry mate I would rather die now than recieve a donated organ"

Has anybody here recieved an organ, can you tell us a little about it?

[skidMark]

38 organs must play some nice music..
can't get too techno on it tho..

I'm donating my nice big organ, when I'm done playing with it


i don't think ego is a solid object.

[skidMark]

I wonder if the people who say "I would never donate" would also say "Naa sorry mate I would rather die now than recieve a donated organ"

Has anybody here recieved an organ, can you tell us a little about it?


he is pink and squishy and i named him steve.

[Bren]

Still using mine....but am a donor on my d/l....so if I go in a nasty way some bastard might get some good outta me.

Oh, and SkidMark, this musta been an extremely important thread for you to comment...Told ya you would be back....Its a drug man!

[Trudes]

Yes, I feel almost guilty for not giving them up, but you're all welcome to pick through whatever you want when I carke it.
Did a study for a social policy paper last year on the changing of the organ and tissue donation in NZ, very interesting stuff.
Get onto it ppls, donate those things!

[TimeOut]

Wife, me and the kids are all doners and the rest of the family know that is our wish

[Okey Dokey]

I, too, have been a donor for years. But my family aren't happy with the idea. I think it is a shame that the family have a veto right. If it was just my choice, then the decision is made.

BUT instead, I can imagine me in near death state, my family all upset. Then someone riles them up about me being a donor. More upset. It really makes me unhappy that what seems to me a simple decision is so murky.

BTW, the reason they object is that they think the medicos won't try so hard to save me once they know I'm a donor. You know, rather than give me a fighting chance they'll say "Well, her chances don't look so good so rather than wait and see lets whip her organs out and help some other folks."

[007XX]

he is pink and squishy and i named him steve.

Hun, we don't really want to know what you've named your "little fella"...and even less the fact that it was donated! :shit: :pinch:

[skidMark]

Hun, we don't really want to know what you've named your "little fella"...and even less the fact that it was donated! :shit: :pinch:



nooooo

his names moby dick.

[007XX]

As a Brit I can't see why our blood should not be acceptable.

That's because we know you poms are naughty little monkeys, always up to no good :devil2:

:laugh:

[skidMark]

As a Brit I can't see why our blood should not be acceptable. I would have thought that they could do the usual Hep B etc tests to make sure that you are 'clean'. And at the end of the day I would have thought thay they would be crying our for blood, no matter where your origins.

And if they do reject you blood I would have thought that it would follow that your organs would be rejected too, but I am not a doctor.


cus uve all got mad cow.

[007XX]

nooooo

his names moby dick.

Hang on, stay where you are...I'm sure Greenpeace will come to help you soon... :bleh:

:laugh:

[sunhuntin]

im a donor.... chances are, ive screwed all the useful bits, but things like my eyes and veins etc can still be used [cept my left eye is royally fucked, lmfao. doesnt like to face forwards when it gets tired.]

[skidMark]

Hang on, stay where you are...I'm sure Greenpeace will come to help you soon... :bleh:

:laugh:


i'm more worried about japanese whalers.

like j randoms gsxr1400.

[skidMark]

im a donor.... chances are, ive screwed all the useful bits, but things like my eyes and veins etc can still be used [cept my left eye is royally fucked, lmfao. doesnt like to face forwards when it gets tired.]

and people say i'm retarded.

[Nagash]

Whoa.. not a single one of you actually knows why English people can't give blood? That's somewhat dissapointing.

I believe Mark said it before but it's because of the Mad Cow Disease. Seeing as we don't know what the disease actually looks like we can't be sure if the person may or may not have it and NZ being a big agricultural country can't afford to take the risk.

Hence anyone in the UK between 1980 to 1996 who was there for over 3 months can't give blood in NZ and quite alot of other countries. Not sure about organ donations but I shall research for you.


[EDIT] Ah okay I found it,

"those people who have lived in the United Kingdom, Republic of Ireland or France for more than three months between 1980 and 1996 cannot donate blood, heart valves and skin but are able to donate organs and eyes for transplantation."


I never knoew you could donate eyes.. that's nasty.

[skidMark]

Whoa.. not a single one of you actually knows why English people can't give blood? That's somewhat dissapointing.

I believe Mark said it before but it's because of the Mad Cow Disease. Seeing as we don't know what the disease actually looks like we can't be sure if the person may or may not have it and NZ being a big agricultural country can't afford to take the risk.

Hence anyone in the UK between 1980 to 1996 who was there for over 3 months can't give blood in NZ and quite alot of other countries. Not sure about organ donations but I shall research for you.


[EDIT] Ah okay I found it,

"those people who have lived in the United Kingdom, Republic of Ireland or France for more than three months between 1980 and 1996 cannot donate blood, heart valves and skin but are able to donate organs and eyes for transplantation."


I never knoew you could donate eyes.. that's nasty.

that would be buzzy.....seeing the world through somebody elses eye.

beats being blind.

[BuFfY]

I tried to give blood once but they said I couldn't because my boyfriend at the time had haemophilla. Even though I don't quite understand how me having sexual relations with him would make my blood unusable for a year.
It was verrrrry embarrassing!

I have put down that I am a donor but do they actually take your body parts when you die or only when there is someone who needs it right then and there?

[Coyote]

I never knoew you could donate eyes.. that's nasty.
"I've got my mother's eyes, literally"


I'm sure there were more donor's out there, just they weren't up to spec, too messed up or the medics didn't harvest them in time.

[sunhuntin]

they take the cornea i think?

from what i know, you cant actually be DOA for them to take organs... you have to die in hospital, from what i understand. not sure if thats for all organs or just the essentials like heart etc. [ie, im sure eyes could still be used if you were DOA. not sure though]

[yungatart]

The organs are "harvested" while the donor is "alive". (brain dead, but the heart is still beating)
Once a person is dead, the heart stops pumping blood, organs begin to die shortly thereafter as they are no longer receiving oxygen or other essential nutrients, rendering them useless for transplant.

[MotoGirl]

The organs are "harvested" while the donor is "alive". (brain dead, but the heart is still beating)

Hmm, "harvested". I've been led to believe they pillage your carcass for everything they can get. :sick:

Does anyone know what they actually leave behind? Do they take everything, or do they only take the organ/s they need at the time?

I'm not a donor because I don't believe that people should play God. Moving organs from one person to another, in my opinion, is just unnatural and I think we've taken the "Plug and Play" concept too far.

I'm sure the recipient of any organ donation is grateful for what he or she received. I do, however, wonder how they cope knowing that an alien organ is living inside them.

[Disco Dan]

Stupid ungrateful cunts...

The best things are made in England and the daft Kiwi's would rather die than have a bit of premium VIP English meat in em.

Feck it.. i'll drink my own blood.

[Pussy]

The worst thing about a lung transplant would be coughing up someone else's phlegm

[Disco Dan]

The worst thing about a lung transplant would be coughing up someone else's phlegm

...a bowel transplant and pooping out a used condom.. :whistle:

[avgas]

I need mine to feed worms, i dont want to keep rich people alive.

[PrincessBandit]

Whoa.. not a single one of you actually knows why English people can't give blood? That's somewhat dissapointing.

I believe Mark said it before but it's because of the Mad Cow Disease. Seeing as we don't know what the disease actually looks like we can't be sure if the person may or may not have it and NZ being a big agricultural country can't afford to take the risk.

Hence anyone in the UK between 1980 to 1996 who was there for over 3 months can't give blood in NZ and quite alot of other countries. Not sure about organ donations but I shall research for you.


[EDIT] Ah okay I found it,

"those people who have lived in the United Kingdom, Republic of Ireland or France for more than three months between 1980 and 1996 cannot donate blood, heart valves and skin but are able to donate organs and eyes for transplantation."


I never knoew you could donate eyes.. that's nasty.

My sis lived there for a while during that period, and so same applies to her even though (to my knowledge) she never received blood products in any way shape or form. Prolly just cos of the potential exposure to mad cow stuff. Any btw how could you not know about eyes? Have you never watched "Minority Report"???? (oops, sorry, that's Hollywood for ya) :rolleyes:

[PrincessBandit]

Seriously, i think the eye thing is mainly corneas rather than whole eyeballs (but I could be wrong, it has been know to happen occasionally).:laugh:

[stanko]

The worst thing about a lung transplant would be coughing up someone else's phlegm

Ill tell you what its like when I get one !

[Bikernereid]

Yes but with dirty little Kiwis!!


That's because we know you poms are naughty little monkeys, always up to no good :devil2:

:laugh:

[007XX]

Yes but with dirty little Kiwis!!

Well, at least you got good taste in that department! :niceone: :laugh:

And Kiwis are not dirty, just deceptively quick and gifted learners! :lol:

[Trudes]

There was just a thing on One NEWS about a girl in Australia who had a liver transplant and it changed her blood type, but she doesn't need to take any of the organ rejection pills, absolutely amazing, and one very thankful young lady!!

[McJim]

My mum had kidney failure - would have been dead by now. She had a transplant - it rejected violently.

Then after another few years of dialysis she got another kidney transplant. It's called 'Roger the lodger' and has been going for about 15 years now.

I realise the importance to families of donors but worry that although my organs would be perfectly acceptable in the UK it's disappointing that they would not be considered here.

[Bikernereid]

Well as someone who doesn't like dating Brits Kiwis aren't bad!! And hell yeah they are quick to learn and willing to try!! I MISS MY LITTLE KIWI OWNER!!!!!!:spanking:

Wouldn't boast about them being deceptively quick though!!

Have you thought about working for the NZ tourist board?!!




Well, at least you got good taste in that department! :niceone: :laugh:

And Kiwis are not dirty, just deceptively quick and gifted learners! :lol:

[crashe]

Donors

I have a good friend who on the 1st September 2006 got the phone call to get to hospital ASAP. He was the recipient of a double lung transplant.
On the same day a lady was the recipient of a heart.
On that same day other people received some other parts that came from a very generous person, who sadly passed away........ how that person died we don't know.

My friend had a very bad year...... due to some complications with his stomach and other things going wrong. But he has survived....... at the time before the operation, he was given a short time to live. He suffered with emphsemia (sp) and could hardly walk a short distance of 50 feet.

He had gone throu all the dr's etc to make sure that he could cope mentally and physicially deal with what was going to happen. Yep months and months of discussion. He was then given a month to decide to go on the books or not. He finally made his decision and within 2 months got a phone call.
He was very lucky as the donor was of the same type as him.

Nope he didn't jump the gun over anyone else....... him and the donor were compatible... but not with anyone else on the 'list'

I have watched and seen what my friend has gone throu over the past year and a half...... most others don't go throu what he went throu... most recover fairly well and quickly. The recipient of the heart is doing well.
Some like him can take a fair while to recover due to how they get over the operation and get back walking again and doing exercises etc etc.

I spent time up at 'Hearty Towers' Green Lane Hospital with him and getting to know a few other recipients from other donors....... sadly one passed away due to complications just as he was about to be sent home for good.

It is a big decision to be a donor let along being a recipient when a donor part is needed.

Spending time with my friend and his lovely partner gave me a real inside look into what people go throu in the recovery.

To date he has not meet the donor's family...... he has thought of it, but they don't wish to.

So my friend lives thanks to a wonderful person and their family.



Rest in peace to that unknown donor. :grouphug:

[Jiminy]

It's funny, I've never felt comfortable with the idea of being a donor, although I've always supported it in principle. I finally ticked the box when I passed my restricted.

[Steam]

People who don't plan on being donors should be forbidden from getting organs.

[MotoGirl]

People who don't plan on being donors should be forbidden from getting organs.

And how does that help the wishes of someone dying who wants to help others survive? Isn't that the whole point in being a donor? If you're going to pick who can and cannot receive organs, you could go as far to say that people who're cu*ts should be forbidden from getting them too.

[007XX]

Well as someone who doesn't like dating Brits Kiwis aren't bad!! And hell yeah they are quick to learn and willing to try!! I MISS MY LITTLE KIWI OWNER!!!!!!:spanking:

Wouldn't boast about them being deceptively quick though!!


I should have been more precise and added: "in my personal experience" :blip: :laugh:

Mind you, only been with one kiwi, and then married him, so I guess that hardly qualifies as extensive research :p Don't matter though...

[BIGBOSSMAN]

Liver Transplant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJnFOTkV214

[u4ea]

I've been a donor ever since Adam was a cowboy.By the time I expire and check into my warmed up room for one there won't be much left thats any good.Chances are I'll end up at Massey with tutors saying "..and this is what happens when ya drink too much :2thumbsupand this is what happens after 25 smokes a day .." I dont care so long as they don't rot before Im done with them.:beer:As for blood it doesn't drain out of me fast enough so no good to the vampires:Pokey:

[Mom]

So get donating, people!


I think I would prefer to be dead to donate somehow :dodge:

I agree though, I am a donor, though I am not sure anything of mine will be useful, maybe corneas, and there are some areas of skin not damaged by the sun?

My nearest and dearest know of my wish to donate, but I will respect them if they choose not to allow it after I am gone.