bikemad.co.nz?? [Archive] - Kiwi Biker forums

Damon

24th January 2008, 12:06

I just heard an add for www.bikemad.co.nz on the rock? i've had a quick look at the site and there are only a total of 39 members at the moment but they are trying to get people to pay to join? has anyone joined? what does my hard earned cash get me that Kiwibiker doesn't offer? other than adds on the radio that is?

Headbanger

24th January 2008, 12:08

Tossers.

...

yod

24th January 2008, 12:11

i know i heard about this a few days ago and laughed my ass off

i suspect they may get a reasonable membership from those who think the cost will "keep out the rabble" so to speak.....

fuck that, the world would be boring without the rabble imo

Str8 Jacket

24th January 2008, 12:13

hehehehehehe, it looks like WINJA has joined. People may get more than their $25 worth..... hehe

tide

24th January 2008, 12:14

lol... 39members and not a single post... :buggerd:

Drum

24th January 2008, 12:14

Looks like Winja has joined up.
Could be worth the membership fee after all!

Ixion

24th January 2008, 12:15

Who hoo. Subscriptions cost $25 per year

What does this give you?

Subscribing to www.bikemad.co.nz (http://www.bikemad.net.nz/) gives you access to forums, chat rooms and the ability to create your own custom user profile. Once you create your profile you will be able to add friends to your profile, create user groups and invite members to join and even set up events such as rides or meets to get together with other members.

Wow. If you register you can even set up rides with other members.

I am stunned into (almost) silence by the fact that he's managed to get 38 other people to sign up! I guess the old saysing 'theres a mug born every minute' is still true.

Site's run by a Paul Frazer from Greenhithe BTW.

Blue Velvet

24th January 2008, 12:16

"keep out the rabble"

Looking at the 'Newest Members', I already see 'rabble' x2 + :laugh:

yod

24th January 2008, 12:23

lol just saw that

i might go register as Hitcher

imdying

24th January 2008, 12:23

Site's run by a Paul Frazer from Greenhithe BTW.Yes, I see it's a Paul and Wendy... they run the NZ Bike Rider Mag don't they?

Blue Velvet

24th January 2008, 12:26

i might go register as Hitcher

:lol: Good luck :argue:

marc34

24th January 2008, 12:26

"SUBSCRIBE AND GET THE BENEFIT OF BELONGING TO THE FASTEST GROWING MOTORCYCLE COMMUNITY IN NEW ZEALAND."

Im sorry but does this site offer any other benefits for your $$$?? thats a big call to make

Devil

24th January 2008, 12:26

I'm just working on starting up www.bike-forums.com at the moment. Which will be a more international site. Feel free to sign up, it's a little bare at the moment, but will not cost anything.

Any request on site content will end up being looked at by myself and my mate so get in there and take the opportunity to make the site that YOU want!

99TLS

24th January 2008, 12:35

dont they own/run wild west?

Cache Wraith

24th January 2008, 12:35

Good on them for being entrepreneurial. It's a democracy and if people want to join that's fine by me. Personally I don't see the point. Kiwibiker has everything they are offering and more. Plus, KB has the rabble as YOD suggests, and even though I have copped flak from the rabble and often they talk a load of bollox, I agree it wouldn't be the same without them. As for their comment that they are the "FASTEST GROWING MOTORCYCLE COMMUNITY IN NEW ZEALAND", I think that is funny and rather brazen even though it may be technically correct. Well now I know where to visit if I can't find anyone on KB who knows about motorcycles!

yod

24th January 2008, 12:36

kb will inherit the earth

i hope everyone is aware of this

we will be gods among men

zeocen

24th January 2008, 14:17

Apparently the first 150 get to sign up for just $15 !

I want to sign up just for sheer curiosity :(

delusionz

24th January 2008, 14:31

People don't realise, Just because you can make a website with a user friendly interface, everything neat and simple and well designed doesn't mean it will go anywhere. It's the people that make the content that other people want, If there's no people and no content, then there's nothing that anyone wants. You either have to be first, or the best, or already have a userbase.

This is exactly what happened with random new online auction sites after Trademe had been well and truely established.

Matt Bleck

24th January 2008, 14:46

I think you'll find the "rabble" where moved on a while ago.....

Mental Trousers

24th January 2008, 14:48

......
As for their comment that they are the "FASTEST GROWING MOTORCYCLE COMMUNITY IN NEW ZEALAND", I think that is funny and rather brazen even though it may be technically correct.
......

They've got a wee way to go to match 450 new members per month average.

zeocen

24th January 2008, 14:49

I'm totally going to be the guine pig for this, will report back if there is anything actually interesting inside there!

tide

24th January 2008, 14:52

I'm totally going to be the guine pig for this, will report back if there is anything actually interesting inside there!

mmm don't die of boredom... let us know if it echo's when you post... :clap:

99TLS

24th January 2008, 14:54

is that kbs spankme on there ??

Skunk

24th January 2008, 14:56

It's got mine.

But I hate echoes so I left.

Quasievil

24th January 2008, 14:57

Big Dave

24th January 2008, 15:01

There is more to life than KB people, do you all just buy one magazine ???

Penthouse - but just for the articles.

zeocen

24th January 2008, 15:07

Well I thought that maybe the forums all showed 0 posts if you weren't logged in, but there really is... zero posts.

At least I only paid like a pizza for it hehe

Echo, echo, echo...

tide

24th January 2008, 15:09

Kinda typical Kiwi Attitude all over agin, someone tries something there is 100 people lined up to mock it and give the guy a hard time.
Kinda like when I started www.sportsbike.co.nz (http://www.sportsbike.co.nz).

There is more to life than KB people, do you all just buy one magazine ???

I apply the old saying, if ya got nothing good to say shut it.

there rant over

Quasi... wasn't around when you started sports bike but believe there are many on this site that are members there as well as other forums, all have there place and maybe this new site as well...

I think he has a cheek making statements that it is fast growing etc... and then charging you for it... is a bit much to swallow when there are clearly other forums that do a excellent job, yours included...

Romeo

24th January 2008, 15:24

I'm totally going to be the guine pig for this, will report back if there is anything actually interesting inside there!

Post a link to KIWIBIKER in the forum! And if they remove it, start a big shitfight about that you've paid for the service so you can do what you want!

Oh, and 15 new members yesterday for KB, 10 for them (even though a few of them are KB'ers!). They've still got a wee way to go before they're the "fastest growing".

R6_kid

24th January 2008, 15:33

Isn't it false advertising to say they are the fastest growing when they aren't?

madandy

24th January 2008, 16:03

Technically, in a percentage type spin they can say what they like...

I'd rather spend $100 a year on KB merchandise than $15 or $25 just to register a user account on that new site...www.carmad.co.nz is equally crap.

MotoGirl

24th January 2008, 16:11

I see they did their market research to ensure they know their main competitors. Or hold on, is KB not a competitor because it's free? :crazy:

Hitcher

24th January 2008, 17:06

i might go register as Hitcher

Make sure you maintain the necessary standards of pedantry.

ApriliaRSVR

24th January 2008, 17:29

Personally I don't see the point. They will use marketing on the radio and things to get alot of members but why would you pay to join a site like that when one like this is perfectly fine and costs nothing?

To be honest I was interested until I heard about this one...

:laugh:

pzkpfw

24th January 2008, 17:32

Make sure you maintain the necessary standards of pedantry.

I was gonna offer to pay for his registration if he promised one spelling and one grammer error per post. :-)

madandy

24th January 2008, 17:35

Hitcher

24th January 2008, 17:47

Let's say this site's promoters are investing $5,000 on radio advertising. That's 200 memberships to cover their costs. One suspects that they are selling or have sold advertising deals to commercial entities too as part of their "business plan".

It's almost worth spending $25 to join and then promoting the shit out of Kiwi Biker. That would be a good test for their Moderators! Mwuahahahahaha!

gav

24th January 2008, 17:49

Heres a site worth checking out!
http://www.visordown.co.nz/go/index.php

Jantar

24th January 2008, 18:10

I just registered, but didn't join up. I see I am listed on the membership list, but can't post to the forums. It makes me wonder how may other "members" haven't actually subscribed. :rolleyes:

Slingshot

24th January 2008, 18:37

Haha...Hitcher is the latest member :lol:

Personally I don't see the point. They will use marketing on the radio and things to get alot of members but why would you pay to join a site like that when one like this is perfectly fine and costs nothing?

To be honest I was interested until I heard about this one...

:laugh:
Welcome to KBer, please don't feed the trolls :blink:

Coyote

24th January 2008, 19:06

Penthouse - but just for the articles.
No loyalty to your own mag. Tsk tsk :p

A site with moderators so up tight they expect you to pay to get in? Best avoid

Transalper

24th January 2008, 19:28

I don't see an Adventure section there either.
Good luck to them, I'll not be back.

yod

24th January 2008, 19:32

Make sure you maintain the necessary standards of pedantry.

I believe it should be 'standard of pedantry'. Singular.

Swoop

24th January 2008, 19:40

dont they own/run wild west?
The "Frazer" there, is Frazer H.....g.

Hitcher

24th January 2008, 19:43

Haha...Hitcher is the latest member

Sigh. One hopes he behaves.

zeocen

24th January 2008, 19:49

Big Dave

24th January 2008, 20:10

No loyalty to your own mag. Tsk tsk :p

A site with moderators so up tight they expect you to pay to get in? Best avoid

No no - that was the 'other' magazine. :sweatdrop

SpankMe

24th January 2008, 20:22

Well I thought I would put my hard earnt $14.95 to good use and make the first post asking what the hell they are going to do, since not even the moderators are making communication on the forums.

Eagerly awaiting their reply *wanders off to watch paint dry*

To bad you got our address wrong. :blink:

I never seen a forum site where they expect you to pay to participate. It's very hard to get active members on a site when there is already an established one of the same subject, but to expect people to pay as well?? The owners must have rocks in their heads if they think they will get back the money they have spent setting it up and advertising it.

Now taking bets on when it gets shutdown. I'd be surprised to still see it running more than a year.

zeocen

24th January 2008, 20:25

My bad, fixed.. now where's that coffee..

imdying

24th January 2008, 20:26

I never seen a forum site where they expect you to pay to participate.The Something Awful (http://forums.somethingawful.com/) forums, I think they charge to get rid of the banner adds (at least), and have something like 110,000 users, and 3500 logged in at anyone time. The mind boggles as to how much money a site like that pulls and costs to run :blink:

/edit: Far out, that's some crazy stats

3,426 registered users logged in.
111,715 users total.
2,376,151 total threads.
64,638,955 total posts.
2,338,509 archived threads.
58,253,137 archived posts.
6 users banned today.
8,008 total users bans.

SpankMe

24th January 2008, 20:31

The Something Awful (http://forums.somethingawful.com/) forums, I think they charge to get rid of the banner adds (at least), and have something like 110,000 users, and 3500 logged in at anyone time. The mind boggles as to how much money a site like that pulls and costs to run :blink:

"We charge money because it costs us $3,400 per month for bandwidth bills alone"

No wonder they charge. :shit: But at least it's just a one off joining fee.

Jeaves

24th January 2008, 20:43

Make sure you maintain the necessary standards of pedantry.

Quick browse of "The Workshop"

Final Drive, Suspension, Breaks, Wheels, Tyres

Its Brakes.....get in there Hitcher!

imdying

24th January 2008, 20:49

USD$3400 per month :o Could I be so bold as to ask what this place stings you a month?

Katman

24th January 2008, 21:40

Well, I've registered my name so no-one can go on there pretending to be me.:msn-wink:

(I'll be fucked if they're going to get any money out of me though.)

Weaver

25th January 2008, 09:53

I see thats really going off. So many posts I was worried I might not get to read them all before the day was out.
Its a to much to charge people join the site and then charge them again if they want to use additional features.

skidMark

25th January 2008, 09:55

hehehehehehe, it looks like WINJA has joined. People may get more than their $25 worth..... hehe

Looks like Winja has joined up.
Could be worth the membership fee after all!

bwahahahahhaha

goto www.sportsbike.co.nz (http://www.sportsbike.co.nz) to see that.

NordieBoy

25th January 2008, 10:12

Heres a site worth checking out!
http://www.visordown.co.nz/go/index.php

Wonder if Visordown knows they're using the name with no mentions on the site?

NordieBoy

25th January 2008, 10:21

I wonder if Visordown have an international copyright on that name... :girlfight: I doubt it.

Somehow I would expect visordown.co.nz to be part of visordown.com

Ixion

25th January 2008, 11:27

Well, I've registered my name so no-one can go on there pretending to be me.:msn-wink:

(I'll be fucked if they're going to get any money out of me though.)

Good thinking Stanley. Ditto

Korumba

25th January 2008, 12:03

Well, I've registered my name so no-one can go on there pretending to be me.:msn-wink:

(I'll be fucked if they're going to get any money out of me though.)

Did the same.

Pex Adams

25th January 2008, 15:06

Spank hits on an interesting point, how many people have tried starting competitors to trade me?! I would think into the thousands now... Its all about repeat business, and unless the people are there using it. It'll die a horrible, tragic death.

Nonetheless good on them for trying to create something, glad Winja has a place to vent:clap::clap::clap:...

SPman

25th January 2008, 15:13

.. glad Winja has a place to vent:clap::clap::clap:...
He vents on Quasis site, occasionally.....

Horse

25th January 2008, 16:27

Looks like the masses have spoken. Just received the following email:

Thank you for your early support of the Bike Mad Community website.

Over the past seven days we have received feedback from members regarding the annual subscription fee.

We have always intended this site to be responsive, proactive and focused on building a dynamic online community of bike enthusiasts.

Therefore we have made a decision to remove the annual subscription, effectively making the entire website 100% Free. This is effective immediately.

I paid to be a member, what happens to my payment?
If you have paid a subscription already we will be refunding all membership payments via Paypal over the next few days.

Again we thank you for you support, and look forward to building an unstoppable online community for you to enjoy.

Regards,

The Bike Mad team

Mental Trousers

25th January 2008, 16:38

8,008 total users bans.

Fuck, that's nearly our entire membership.

Somethingawful just shows how many sickos there are in this world.

zeocen

25th January 2008, 16:43

Woot, $14.95 refunded!

Time to go SHOPPING!

Weaver

25th January 2008, 16:56

Woot, $14.95 refunded!

Time to go SHOPPING!

Don't you go blowing that all at once now

Hitcher

25th January 2008, 19:05

I understand that the Bikemad chasps have decided not to charge for memberships.

Any starters for a forum raid to see where their Moderators have drawn the lines in the sand?

Slingshot

25th January 2008, 19:30

I understand that the Bikemad chasps have decided not to charge for memberships.

Any starters for a forum raid to see where their Moderators have drawn the lines in the sand?

I'm in, lead the way Hitcher.