Bandit Oil Changing

[Antallica]

Just a few things I need to sort out before I go in guns blazing.

Need to change oil etc, but have no idea how much to put in. It has the 2300ml beside the cap so I imagine that's the amount needed?

Also with the bike on the centre stand I can expect the oil level to be flat enough for me to accuratley see it on the oil window?

If I'm changing the oil I supopose I'd better check the plugs to see if I need to replace them huh.

[Magua]

Also with the bike on the centre stand I can expect the oil level to be flat enough for me to accuratley see it on the oil window?

Worked for me on the GN125, just make sure you are on flat ground.

[kerryg]

Just a few things I need to sort out before I go in guns blazing.

Need to change oil etc, but have no idea how much to put in. It has the 2300ml beside the cap so I imagine that's the amount needed?

Also with the bike on the centre stand I can expect the oil level to be flat enough for me to accuratley see it on the oil window?

If I'm changing the oil I supopose I'd better check the plugs to see if I need to replace them huh.

1. 2300mil should be right. May be safest to fill to (say) 2100 or 2200 mils and check the level before adding the rest. 2300 mils probably includes the oil in your filter. If you're not changing your filter it's likely to take less than 2300 mils to fill her up. Usually best to change your filter every 2nd oil change or 10000km max.
2. I would think so
3. Well doesn't necessarily follow but it's a good idea to check your plugs from time to time (really depends on how long since you last changed your oil/checked your plugs). Say at 20000kms intervals at most although others may suggest shorter intervals


And use a decent motorcycle-specific oil (there are too many different opinions to risk putting a recommendation here but your owner's manual is a good starting point). FWIW I use Motul 5100 for my bikes (one oil/air cooled and one watercooled) but there are plenty of good oils out there depending on your budget etc

[riffer]

Need to change oil etc, but have no idea how much to put in. It has the 2300ml beside the cap so I imagine that's the amount needed?

Not necessarily. That's the total oil volume.

If you are not changing the oil filter you will need to add less.

I would allow 250ml for the oil filter, add in say 2 litres, then check your oil level. Does the bike have one of those little windows on the side of the engine to see if the oil level is okay?

Better yet, get a new oil filter, drain all the oil, remove the oil filter, then add 2.2 litres, start it up, leave it to idle for a few minutes, turn it off, leave it for ten minutes, then check and top up if necessary. Make sure you don't rev it heaps when you start it up.

[Antallica]

Yeah I'm going to get the good oil. I've only just got the bike so I might as well replace all the usual bits just so I know when it's been done etc.

Cheers guys.

[MacD]

Better yet, get a new oil filter, drain all the oil, remove the oil filter, then add 2.2 litres, start it up, leave it to idle for a few minutes, turn it off, leave it for ten minutes, then check and top up if necessary. Make sure you don't rev it heaps when you start it up.

I realise it's probably pointing out the obvious, but you left out the step where you put the new oil filter back on before adding the new oil and starting the bike! ;)

[Jess]

never be shamed to point out the obvious - better to say something unneccessary than not say something necessary :niceone:

[Devil]

I think I need to learn how to change my own oil. harrr

[FROSTY]

ANT do it this way and ya wont go wrong.
1 Loosen off the oil filter -Just take the initial fraction of a turn outwards.
Ya dont wanna take it off just haye it hand tight
2) start the bike and leave idling for 5 minutes -Give her a couple of revs to about 3000
Turn off and remove the sump plug.
Go Inside and have a cupa tea
retighten sump plug.
Loosen oil filter Housing off a few turns--Youll get another. gush of oil
Tighten oil filter housing.
Pour in 2.0l of oil.
Start bike leave running 30 seconds or so.
Turn off -wait 5 minutes
Fill bike to JUST BELOW the full level.

[riffer]

I realise it's probably pointing out the obvious, but you left out the step where you put the new oil filter back on before adding the new oil and starting the bike! ;)


Just what KB needs - another bloody pedant!!!

What about the sump plug then, mr smartypants. ;)

[Hitcher]

Get professional advice. Mrs H's (Suzuki) Marauder has 1700 written by the filler cap. That's the amount of oil not including the filter. A full filter and oil change requires 2200.

[Antallica]

Loosen off the oil filter -Just take the initial fraction of a turn outwards.
Ya dont wanna take it off just haye it hand tight

Now when you say that do you mean take off the oil filter cap so I can actually see the filter? Or losen the cap bolts to hand movement level?

When I did it on the FXR I just undid the sump bolt & drained the oil, then with the sump bolt still off I removed the filter cover and replaced it. Then bolts back on and refill oil. Can't do the same?

[riffer]

When I did it on the FXR I just undid the sump bolt & drained the oil, then with the sump bolt still off I removed the filter cover and replaced it. Then bolts back on and refill oil. Can't do the same?

Yeah, that's what I would have said too.

Please can you enlighten us Frosty? Is it to do with oil flow being faster out of the sump plug or something...

[FROSTY]

Yea Ant you have the idea -the whole idea/point is to dump as much dirty oil out as possible.
by loosening the filter off a bit (a fraction) -oil wont come out but it saves ya burning your fingers on hot parts when you do
Im pretty sure the bandito has a filter housing out the front of the motor -

[Antallica]

Yeah I can see it all, and I don't even have to remove any fairings to undo the sump bolt!

w00p!

[FROSTY]

Get professional advice. Mrs H's (Suzuki) Marauder has 1700 written by the filler cap. That's the amount of oil not including the filter. A full filter and oil change requires 2200.
Yep--Thats EXACTLY why I say fill by level on glass not by quantity put in.
I remember one old bike -a sidecar unit as I recall -It said 3.5l.
I put in the 3.5l . Checked the oil level -It diddn't even show on the dipstick.
I poured in an extra litre before it showed up to full--Turned out the guy had fitted a deeper sump and an oil cooler that upped the bikes oil capacity

[MacD]

Just what KB needs - another bloody pedant!!!

What about the sump plug then, mr smartypants. ;)

Can I claim that you never removed it in the first place!? :eek:

[Sniper]

I think I need to learn how to change my own oil. harrr

I was waiting for someone to say that before I did, I guess I better go now :eek: :killingme :whocares:

[Antallica]

I was waiting for someone to say that before I did, I guess I better go now :eek: :killingme :whocares:

Hehe you novices! Come on, have a fiddle with your machine!
You break, you fix, you learn.

[Devil]

Hehe you novices! Come on, have a fiddle with your machine!
You break, you fix, you learn.
Heh, well it sounds uber simple, I just dont know where the oil filter is or what it looks like, and where the sump plug is.

Also, where do you guys dispose of your oils?

[Dr Bob]

I'll add support to the measurement on the sidecase (in my case 2500) excluding the filter. But how many of you would do the oil and not do the filter? We're not talking about a car here, most of you will have a wet clutch, and all the stuff that comes off it goes into the oil (albeit not much). Most people I have talked to that have had bikes for any length of time replace the oil from 3 ot 5k and do the filter as a matter of course.

[Dr Bob]

Heh, well it sounds uber simple, I just dont know where the oil filter is or what it looks like, and where the sump plug is.

Also, where do you guys dispose of your oils?
Out west you take it to the transfer station. You can dump a few packs at a time (I think I took 5 last time) without charge. They also take old batteries and paint. It is all part of the dangerous substances local body regs I think, they don't charge for collecting this stuff for purely domestic purposes.

[Devil]

Where do you get your oil filters? Just find through your local bike shop?
What are they worth?

[FROSTY]

Give Alex a buzz dude -He'll get ya one in.
Come see me saturday and we'll do the oil -Ill show ya how
Then ya can do the oil on mella yella for me-after every meeting lol :devil2:

[Devil]

Give Alex a buzz dude -He'll get ya one in.
Come see me saturday and we'll do the oil -Ill show ya how
Then ya can do the oil on mella yella for me-after every meeting lol :devil2:
Wicked, Tar.

Ill have to pay you back somehow for all this help! Invaluable!
Pit bitch? hah.

[Magua]

Heh, well it sounds uber simple, I just dont know where the oil filter is or what it looks like, and where the sump plug is.

Also, where do you guys dispose of your oils?

Where is the oil filter on the zr250? Hopefully you don't have to remove the headers and exhaust system just to get at it like on my fzr, go yamaha :rolleyes:

[Dr Bob]

Where is the oil filter on the zr250? Hopefully you don't have to remove the headers and exhaust system just to get at it like on my fzr, go yamaha :rolleyes:
Worst I had was an exhaust from custom chambers, when I got my first back tyre after fitting it they called me into the workshop. The exhaust was overlapping the rear axle my about 30mm. Fortuneately is was just the slant lip single layer section, they had to reposition it with a relocating device that they had handy.

[FROSTY]

I had the same problem once Bob,Had to take the whole darned zorst off

[Sniper]

Hehe you novices! Come on, have a fiddle with your machine!
You break, you fix, you learn.

Very true words from someone I suppose has many experience with fixing things.

I just have a slight problem, I can break and take apart, but fixing....ummm, lets just say Im not very good at putting stuff back together. Now where does this doodab go??? :laugh: :brick: :Oops:

[MacD]

Also, where do you guys dispose of your oils?

The Auckland Regional Council operates the HazMobile (http://www.hazmobile.govt.nz/) collection system. Useful for getting rid of car/bike batteries too.

The next collection site is going to be at Mills lane, off Oteha Valley Rd Albany, on Saturday 4 December.

[Devil]

The Auckland Regional Council operates the HazMobile (http://www.hazmobile.govt.nz/) collection system. Useful for getting rid of car/bike batteries too.

The next collection site is going to be at Mills lane, off Oteha Valley Rd Albany, on Saturday 4 December.
Excellent. Thanks.

[riffer]

While we're on the subject of changing oil, does anyone have any idea how to get around the filter leaking oil on my headers problem other than taking the headers off?

My fizzer has the oil filter at the front of the crankcase, behind the headers. Its covered by a finned alloy cover which you have to undo the bolt at the front of to get off. When you do this the oil leaks out of the bottom of the cover and drips all over the headers.

My solution so far has been to put a rag under the oil filter cover so that the oil drips onto this but its kind of messy.

I guess I have to remove the headers to really make sure this doesn't happen but crikey, there's got to be a better way doesn't there? :no:

[FROSTY]

While we're on the subject of changing oil, does anyone have any idea how to get around the filter leaking oil on my headers problem other than taking the headers off?

My fizzer has the oil filter at the front of the crankcase, behind the headers. Its covered by a finned alloy cover which you have to undo the bolt at the front of to get off. When you do this the oil leaks out of the bottom of the cover and drips all over the headers.

My solution so far has been to put a rag under the oil filter cover so that the oil drips onto this but its kind of messy.

I guess I have to remove the headers to really make sure this doesn't happen but crikey, there's got to be a better way doesn't there? :no:
Um NO --simple really

[Blakamin]

While we're on the subject of changing oil, does anyone have any idea how to get around the filter leaking oil on my headers problem other than taking the headers off?

My fizzer has the oil filter at the front of the crankcase, behind the headers. Its covered by a finned alloy cover which you have to undo the bolt at the front of to get off. When you do this the oil leaks out of the bottom of the cover and drips all over the headers.

My solution so far has been to put a rag under the oil filter cover so that the oil drips onto this but its kind of messy.

I guess I have to remove the headers to really make sure this doesn't happen but crikey, there's got to be a better way doesn't there? :no:

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