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Gubb
25th January 2008, 17:00
Bear with me.

So, as some of you know after my cry for help (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=65681) to move my bike today, I stacked it for the first time yesterday afternoon.

Was heading out to Waitakere to pay a bill, was on Great North Road inside a little shopping area when a kid bolted out from behind some bushes, and across the road, the car in front of me slammed on it's anchors, and ended up slightly over the line in the left lane. I also slammed on the front anchor (it wasn't until after the crash that I realised I hadn't used the rear brake) and performed an impromptu stoppie. Crushed my right hand between the brake lever/handlebar, and the left back corner of the car, front wheel bounced off the car, and the bike ended up on top of me, with both legs (dunno how that happened) trapped under the bike. Would have been going 25km/h tops.

The guy gets out of the car, and launches a tirade of abuse towards me, while i'm trapped under my bike. The guy in the car behind me gets out, tells him to shut his mouth, and lifts the bike up off of me, helps me up, and pushes the bike onto the footpath.

I stand there for a while, dazed and confused, take off my hemlet and gloves, and start exchanging information with the guy. Someone else walks out from one of the surrounding shops, and offers to call an Ambo, I declined it, and said I was just a bit shaken. Guy leaves, and I notice my right hand start to shake considerably more than the other one, and it had already started swelling. Head back to the shop to ask if I can borrow the phone to ring the missus, but he had shut up shop, and gapped it for the day.

Head up to the shop next door, and ask to borrow the phone, I go to dial, but completely forget my home number (we only had the phone installed a few weeks ago, and I struggle to forget the old one, and remember the new one. I ask if there is an A&E close by, the guy says Waitakere is not far off (I found out when I went to collect the bike that I said I didn't need an Ambo, and that i'd just walk), so he called an Ambo, while he sat me down, they arrived in about 3 minutes, loaded me into the back, and off we went. The guys at the 2nd shop were awesome, they moved my bike into the storage section of the shop, locked it up at night, off the street, ready for me to collect it.

Turns out both the Medics were bikers too, and were really cool. Loaded me up with 5mg (apparently that's nothing for someone my size) of Morphine (More-fine, More-fun, More-please?) which spaced me out, felt really dizzy, and super-sweaty, I think I ended up repeating the same things back to them over and over again, but I guess shock does some strange things to people, and they've probably seen almost everything.

Arrive at the Hospital, and get wheeled in on a chair, propped up in a corner in the hallway with a magazine to read until they are ready for me. The murse (male-nurse) that looked after me was phenomenal, he started cracking jokes at my expense, getting me to smile for the first time, whipped out a photo of a Triumph he used to own, which he sold a few years ago (I like the fact he still carries a picture of a bike in his wallet that he *used* to own). He calls my missus (who is also a nurse, and who's father is a fireman, so she was raised on a steady diet of anti-motorcycle work-stories) who bursts into hysterics, and starts crying on the phone, he said it was "only his hand", she heard "it was only his head". She arrives and bursts into tears on arrival.

Calm her down, while she tells me I'll never get on a bike again (I didn't tell her I was seriously looking at a bike as I knew she wouldn't approve, it was more a case of "Look what I bought", rather than "I'm thinking of getting a motorbike"). I told her that life, and everything in it is a calculated risk, and that every time I gear up (subsequently, I had bought an awesome jacket and pants combo from Quasi two days before, of which I was wearing everything - Cheers Quasi, it worked a charm!) and go for a ride, we balance the enjoyment we get from riding, to the risk of injury, or worse, and that living life without a passion just isn't worth it. It certainly doesn't mean you do stupid things without fear of reprisal, and that you take all necessary steps to avoid injury, but there is always an element of risk in anything we do.

She just punched me in the (other) arm. Hmmm, have 6-8 weeks to convince her.

Had X-Rays taken, fractured (possibly broke) two Meta carpels in my right (dominant) hand. Will see a specialist next week, cast is on for 6 to 8 weeks.

Lessons learned:
-I was following too close.
-While I was searching the road ahead for hazards, I did neglect what was happening in front of my nose.
-I need to start using my rear brake more in day to day riding so that I remember that it is there.
-Need more practice on emergency braking so that it becomes ingrained into me.
-Don't be too macho to accept help from other people, they may just know what is best for you.
-Don't ever crash in summer, the next 6 to 8 are gonna be hard staring out the window.
-Putting on socks with one hand is an art form.
-Poo before you shower, it's hard to wipe with one hand.

Cheers a metric butt-load to Patch for ditching work at midday, loading my bike up, and dropping it off at home. For someone that i've never met, to give me such a big hand, hopefully karma will repay you severalfold. I know i'm gonna help out next time someone else asks.

Bike is fine, few scratches to the fairings, nothing cracked, gear lever snapped off, and smashed one indicator.

It took me about two hours (and one course of pain meds) to one finger type this.

Magua
25th January 2008, 17:06
Ouch. Sounds like it could have been worse. Good to see you've learnt something from it. _b _b

mitchilin
25th January 2008, 17:07
Bling awarded on proper grammar and spelling alone.Never mind the parody of the Mortiens ad,

fireliv
25th January 2008, 17:09
Glad to hear you are ok, and it is only your hand and not your head!

Definatly some good lessons learned there!

All the best with your recovery

Cruisin' Craig
25th January 2008, 17:11
See, I never stopped to think about "lessons learned" when I had my first off. And as a result I had another one a few months later. Well done on that. Glad you're OK and doing a better job of self reflection than I did :-)

Pex Adams
25th January 2008, 17:12
Lessons learned:
-Poo before you shower, it's hard to wipe with one hand.

Cheers a metric butt-load to Patch for ditching work at midday, loading my bike up, and dropping it off at home. For someone that i've never met, to give me such a big hand, hopefully karma will repay you severalfold. I know im gonna help out next time someone else asks.

- I'm sure Cowpoo's will have some advise to give you about wiping poo's with one hand:blink::blink::blink:

Also Patch - that a 'Sir Ed Award' right there champ. Great stuff.

Mully
25th January 2008, 17:14
The murse (male-nurse) that looked after me was phenomenal, he started cracking jokes at my expense, getting me to smile for the first time, whipped out a photo of a Triumph he used to own, which he sold a few years ago (I like the fact he still carries a picture of a bike in his wallet that he *used* to own).

Was a German Murse?? If so, Miss Mully was looked after by him once, I was laughing my head off.

Glad you are OK, and glad to see you have assessed and learned the lesson from it.

And good Karma to the helpers.

Nagash
25th January 2008, 17:15
I knew it was you I saw, saw your post asking for a tow in the morning and then went out. Saw two guys in a van towing a black hyosung in New Lynn. Figured it may well be you. Anyway,

Bugger to hear about your injury, i'm in a cast right now too, have been for 6 weeks, it's not fun. Good luck convincing your better half though, off to a flying start.

Hope you heal well,

yungatart
25th January 2008, 17:19
For lessons on how to successfully emergency brake, do a RRRS course.
Bugger about your hand...I know what that feels like. Heal well.

Grub
25th January 2008, 17:35
Hey Hubba, thanks for the detailed story - that's what reminds us of what to look for.

Bummed about yer hand, that stuff hurts and takes a long time to come right. When the plaster comes off, get a referral to a hand physio - they're fantastic & necessary! My hand is 99% functional from 4 broken bones and it is all down to my hand physio ... she was fantastic!

Gubb
25th January 2008, 18:10
Cheers for that, have already been recommended a hand-physio.

I think the murse may have been German, awesome dude nonetheless, it takes a special kind of person to deal with a wise-cracking motorcyclist, to a sympathetic to a sick old-dear in the flash of an instant.

Nagash, gutted about the cast over the elbow, at least it's green though!

Damn, i'm gonna get OOS in my left index finger soon. :pinch:

RantyDave
25th January 2008, 18:25
-I need to start using my rear brake more in day to day riding so that I remember that it is there.
-Need more practice on emergency braking so that it becomes ingrained into me.
I dunno, man, sounds pretty good to me. Once the rear's in the air the brake's not going to make any difference - it's the people who forget the front exists that are in trouble, you would be laughing about it if you'd done it that way round. I don't know what, exactly, you were supposed to do about kid running across the road either.

But you were following too close :)

Good work, get well soon.

Dave

Nagash
25th January 2008, 18:35
Nagash, gutted about the cast over the elbow, at least it's green though!

Damn, i'm gonna get OOS in my left index finger soon. :pinch:

So you saw me too then aye? Small world..

Bugger about the finger, but atleast it's only your finger! I got it in my left knee and my left wrist..

Motor sports bugger you up pretty hard aye! Keep on riding,

DMNTD
25th January 2008, 18:39
Suck about the accident but onya for detailing it as you have.
Hopefully not only you but some others can learn from your balls up.
Heal quick :apint:

fireball
25th January 2008, 18:54
hello my "hand in a cast friend" :lol:
you need a blue one!!!!

i do believe we were chatting about emergency breaking on wednesday night how you have never had to.... did ya learn? ha ha ha

but really hope you heal up quick and come play again soon was a good wee ride the other night with you!
glad to hear the bike is ok, now go convince the missus she needs a bike!!!:niceone:

Gubb
25th January 2008, 19:00
I dunno, man, sounds pretty good to me. Once the rear's in the air the brake's not going to make any difference - it's the people who forget the front exists that are in trouble, you would be laughing about it if you'd done it that way round.

True, I just figured that if I had controlled the braking a little more then the rear wouldn't have lifted, and I may have been able to save it.

No such thing as too much practice though.


i do believe we were chatting about emergency breaking on wednesday night how you have never had to.... did ya learn? ha ha ha

but really hope you heal up quick and come play again soon was a good wee ride the other night with you!
glad to hear the bike is ok, now go convince the missus she needs a bike!!!:niceone:

Guess we jinxed it huh?

She was hesitant to start with, this will set her back even more now, although she has seen, and understands my passion for two wheels, so hopefully it won't be too long before she comes around. Then again, one of the cool things about bikes is their 'exclusivity' and how the 'general public' doesn't understand it.

ElCoyote
25th January 2008, 19:16
Bling awarded on proper grammar and spelling alone.Never mind the parody of the Mortiens ad,

Hey, I have got to second that, there is not enough of it on any forum but...........following a bin, priceless. I could extrapolate further but I think you get the gist. :first:

Swoop
25th January 2008, 19:31
Lessons learned:
it's hard to wipe with one hand.
You normally wipe with both hands??:scratch:

Luckylegs
25th January 2008, 19:39
Damm, bugger dude, what they all said.....

Gubb
25th January 2008, 19:45
You normally wipe with both hands??:scratch:
Heh, give it a try one day, using only your non-dominant hand, with no leverage whatsoever from your other arm. It's tricky.

Fub@r
25th January 2008, 19:53
Bling awarded on proper grammar and spelling alone.

+ bling for typing all that with a busted hand!

See you on the Coro Loop in 6-8 weeks Hubba :)

Luckylegs
25th January 2008, 19:59
...True, I just figured that if I had controlled the braking a little more then the rear wouldn't have lifted, and I may have been able to save it. No such thing as too much practice though.


...See you on the Coro Loop in 6-8 weeks Hubba :)

...Be on the lookout for a Holden Commodore in Whitianga.... They're good for practicing that sort of thing :whistle:

Xaria
25th January 2008, 20:34
Awesome write up of your accident. Get a screen saver of a nasty storm so you can see that and not think about the great weather outside...

madbikeboy
25th January 2008, 20:41
Hey, really good write up.

A couple of salient thoughts about your post, some of these could apply to more than the newbies.

Very few people spend time practising the basic stuff - the brake is the most powerful force on the bike (you can decelerate faster than you can accelerate 99% of the time). Learning to be progressive with the brake and how much brake is important for the road - reading the road surfaces and conditions, and developing the ESP required for riding also takes time. I've been on two wheels pretty much all my life, and I've crashed too - I reckon mountain biking is the ultimate way to upskill - it's relatively low speed, and the skills are transferable. Or a motox bike, although more damage/speed.

I've crashed enough to know that you can wipe your own butt with one hand. Just shuffle a little to get the position right. Breaking ribs is worse, especially lower ones - bowel movements really hurt. And compound fractures are cool since you get big scars.


So, the girlfriend. This is the tough bit - you need to balance your freedom to do stuff that puts you at risk, with the fears and concerns of your life partner. It's tough to get this right. Good communication is key. The other thing, if you have a really trusted mate who could 2up your partner - do a ride to mission bay in the summer. Something really slow and gentle, and get her to understand that it's a good vibe. There really is no easy answer for this. It's a time and confidence thing for her.

The reality is that we ride and we are at risk. Make sure that your affairs are in order, (get a will), and get life insurance - this is a basic responsibility to the people you care about.

I'd also suggest that you take an advanced riding course, there's lots around, and spend time on a deserted carpark practising progressive braking...

gijoe1313
25th January 2008, 20:45
Good to hear you are relatively safe and sound and the bike all sorted, I had nothing to do so was bummed when Patch was Johnny on the spot! :lol: All good, I guess you need to talk to zeocen about filling in those moments when the riding weather is so beautiful :innocent:

Anyhows, great to hear you reflected on your incident, positive attitude and what a post! :niceone:

And kudos to Patch, you sir, are a paragon of samaritan good will and a knights Hospitaller all in one! I doff my hat! :clap:

Gubb
25th January 2008, 20:53
The reality is that we ride and we are at risk. Make sure that your affairs are in order, (get a will), and get life insurance - this is a basic responsibility to the people you care about.

I'd also suggest that you take an advanced riding course, there's lots around, and spend time on a deserted carpark practising progressive braking...
That's probably some of the best advice i've gotten yet. At 24 I hadn't even begun to think about a Will, but I guess it certainly couldn't hurt.

And as soon as i'm up and about, I will be booking time in a big-empty carpark.

I gotta admit, it feels bizarre to be so positive about a traumatic experience. It's the first bone (and hopefully the last) i've ever broken. Still, whats the point of growing up if your not expanding your horizons?

Toaster
25th January 2008, 21:02
For lessons on how to successfully emergency brake, do a RRRS course.
Bugger about your hand...I know what that feels like. Heal well.

Ditto on both counts!!

Emergency braking is something everyone should be well practised at, especially if they change bikes..... especially for the noobs and those that still act or ride like noobs, know your bike and know what it needs to stop quickly and safely.

Pussy
25th January 2008, 21:13
Good write up, Hubba Gubba. Heal fast! Cheers

kerfufflez
25th January 2008, 21:14
Great write up. Hope the recovery goes well.

Did anyone catch the kid to teach him some road-sense, administered in the form of a (non)smack?

Gubb
25th January 2008, 21:19
Did anyone catch the kid to teach him some road-sense, administered in the form of a (non)smack?

Dunno, shifted focus pretty quick. Can't even remember what s/he looked like.

Fub@r
26th January 2008, 07:48
...Be on the lookout for a Holden Commodore in Whitianga.... They're good for practicing that sort of thing :whistle:

Holdens in Whitianga also help you lift the back wheel :whistle:

fliplid
26th January 2008, 08:02
Sorry to hear about your off- at least you have learnt from the experience, better than most! I went through a nice series of flourescent coloured casts on my hand.
Don't mention broken ribs! I did 5 of mine years ago when my elbow armour slammed into them on one of my offs...5 ribs busted in 10 places. Nearly 2 months kipping in an arm chair cos I couldn't lie down. Mind you, the pain killers...mmmmm!!!!
There'll be more summers later bud.

Oakie
26th January 2008, 08:48
Lessons learned:

-While I was searching the road ahead for hazards, I did neglect what was happening in front of my nose.


Good point. I'll remember that one.

Bruiser
26th January 2008, 10:25
Excellent write-up, and well done for owning up to the lessons learned.

Two years 4 mths recovering from mine, and these fine days are killing me too!

Well done, bling awarded!

maxworldbiker
27th January 2008, 10:45
Glad you're healing up ok. Get some full-size baby wipes for the butt, they spread well and do a good job. Don't ask me to tell you how I know this, but I do. Good reminder too, thanks, that unexpected hazards go with the m/c territory and how critical it is to be vigilant from the front wheel all the way to the horizon. The same thing happened to me once while riding in the UK and I'd forgot all about the back brake, so my reflex wasn't quite what it needed to be to react appropriately, down we went, skid across the tarmac 70 yards, no broken bones but 2 hours in x-rays, a ton of bruises and I learned from it too.

See if you can get the licence plate of the wanker you ran up the back of, who made it all about himself while leaving you pinned under your bike. I can spare some of my stash of explosives earmarked for campervans, and blow up his car :ar15:.

titirangi
27th January 2008, 19:29
Great write up - an inspiration to us all. Good on ya mate and get well soon.

Gubb
30th January 2008, 17:13
Had my follow-up appointment with the Specialist this afternoon. Had the behemoth of a cast removed (Yay!), more X-Rays done, and confirmed I have a flake fracture of the 3rd Meta Carpel (Middle finger bone, towards the base of the Wrist). The bruises are pretty spectacular, black and yellow (true Wellington colours!) all the way between my knuckles, down to the middle of my forearm.

Placed me into a brace/splint that restricts my movement even more, now I can't even use my fingers like I had been previously. Should be in that for about two weeks before I graduate to a soft splint that allows me to use my wrist a little more.

Gotta admit although I miss the bike like crazy, its swimming at the beach that I miss the most, particularly on these insanely humid days.

Ah well, guess that's the occasional price we pay to learn new life lessons...

shafty
30th January 2008, 17:51
Sorry to hear of your OFF Hubba, - sounds like you have it in perspective, and also sounds like you didn't really do too much wrong - other than being a bit close to stop, which is a good reminder for all of us (me).

I hated riding in Ak traffic when I was on a ride, the 1st 20 minutes (and Last if returning home) of a days riding, I felt were the most dangerous until I got into the country or open road.

Heal well Dude