An 18-year-old man rapes his 8-year-old stepsister.

[trump-lady]

> An 18-year-old man rapes his 8-year-old stepsister.
> The father of the girl takes man to an abandoned
> building and rapes him.
>
> From the Star-Telegram in Texas.
>
> The 18-year-old was arrested by Arlington police on
> suspicion of aggravated sexual assault. The girl was
> taken to the hospital where an examination revealed
> she'd been raped anally. And the father issued a
> stern warning to his wife. But unbeknownst to the
> father, police say, the man's wife posted bond for
> her son's release from the Arlington Jail. When the
> teen called home for a ride on the early afternoon
> of Jan. 3, his stepfather answered the phone and
> arrived at the jail to pick up the teen. But the
> pair didn't go home, investigators say. Instead, the
> Arlington man reportedly drove his stepson to an
> abandoned house in east Fort Worth where he
> delivered his own brand of justice. Police say he
> severely beat the teen with a baseball bat, and then
> anally raped him with a wrench like metal tool.
>
>
MY OPINION


---hopefully he has a ripped anal passage that gets infected and gives life to a oragnism that begins to eat him from his anal passage to the outside causing gangerine of all genitals and spreading to eat from the inside out his upper body however leaving all mental, and physical feelings working at 100 percent capacity.

k...nuff said

good on the dad but he will get fucked for doing it. If it were my daughter he wouldnt be so lucky.

[Steam]

Do you feel better now you have vented?

[trump-lady]

Do you feel better now you have vented?

ummmmmmmmm yes
This works better for me than some youth justice crap. I think he will think twice before doing that again.

[Flatcap]

> Police say he
> severely beat the teen with a baseball bat, and then
> anally raped him with a wrench like metal tool.


I hope he didn't use his own tools - the clean up would be terrible

[Coyote]

ummmmmmmmm yes
This works better for me than some youth justice crap.
Pardon? Youth Justice? What's that?

[dino3310]

serves the little cunt right,the father should do that every six months for the next few years so it fucks with his head,the little eight year old copped it mentally as well she's gona suffer in some way for many a year to come.
good on the dad!

[Disco Dan]

gosh someone skipped one of their parenting classes...

"was sick that day" :lol:

Surely the idiots would get enough bum-fun in the jail??

[YellowDog]

Very sad story. The little girl needs love and attention from her Dad. Her Dad has made sure she can't have what she needs and her recovery prospects don't look good.

3 screwed lives doesn't improve matters. He should have got some mates to help teach the lesson.

[Lias]

Give him a medal

[nallac]

good on the Father,
the only mistake he made was leaving the prick alive.!!!!!!

[SixPackBack]

Confucius say: Before extracting revenge first dig two graves.

Boy is fucked [literally] and Dad is off to jail for a long stretch, [trying not to think about the wee lass being a dad an all].

Just a tragic story:no:

[Headbanger]

Sometimes you just got to take care of shit.

And then take the consequences on the chin.

[sAsLEX]

Conucucius say: Before extracting revenge first dig two graves.



The Count of Monte Cristo says: Revenge is a dish best served cold.

God I love that movie!

[Dave Lobster]

Who could sit on a jury and send him to jail?

[sAsLEX]

Who could sit on a jury and send him to jail?

Labour and Green party members?

[Big Dog]

And the father issued a stern warning to his wife.But unbeknownst to the father, police say, the man's wife posted bond for her son's release from the Arlington Jail.

Clearly there are going to be four ruined lives from this episode.
Imagine how mum must have felt bailing her son out just to have her husband do that to him.

This is one sick family. I hope that in their own way they are all able to deal with the consequences of their actions. I also hope that the fathers and the daughters lives are not completely ruined by this. I also hope that no matter how hard it gets in prison (and it will get hard being a kiddy fiddler) that the son sees his last day in prison. I don't hope he gets out but I do hope he serves his full stretch and no nutjob exacts revenge by killing him before he finishes his first week.

[YellowDog]

Sometimes you just got to take care of shit.

And then take the consequences on the chin.
A bit more thought and he could have sorted the 18 year old And kept his freedom to look after his little girl.

[skelstar]

Why the hell do we have to discuss shit like this on this site? It's not even a story from this country. Honestly if you were watching the any of the National News shows you'd wonder how it made our news.

Aren't there more important/relevant issues if you must feel like 'sharing' on this biker site?

[Virago]

Of course - it's Sunday.

I don't normally bother with the Sunday rags. Any vicars been caught in orgies lately...?

[mstriumph]

...............Just a tragic story:no:

or mebbe just another urban legend??

HEY!! SixPackBack's BACK everyone!!! :banana::2thumbsup:wari:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Who could sit on a jury and send him to jail?


sue bradford, ruth dyson annette king and helen clark.

are we noticing a theme here?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Why the hell do we have to discuss shit like this on this site? It's not even a story from this country. Honestly if you were watching the any of the National News shows you'd wonder how it made our news.

Aren't there more important/relevant issues if you must feel like 'sharing' on this biker site?

How about that local sports team?

[Virago]

...are we noticing a theme here?

Yes. People who like enjoy such sordid titilation are generally right-wing.:lol:

[Patar]

Who could sit on a jury and send him to jail?

A jury is not bound by what is morally correct but what is acceptable in the eyes of the law.
Personally I think the little shit deserved what he had coming, just too bad that the little girl will lose her father for a stretch (although there's always the chance of probation from the start of his sentence given the nature of his crime).

[trump-lady]

Why the hell do we have to discuss shit like this on this site? It's not even a story from this country. Honestly if you were watching the any of the National News shows you'd wonder how it made our news.

Aren't there more important/relevant issues if you must feel like 'sharing' on this biker site?


Thats why its in rant or rave. No one asked you to read it or post about it. If you dont like shit thats not about bikes DONT read the rant and rave.........

This is what the sections for so get over it and pull your head in

I hate people who reply to a thread no one asked them to, complainning and then write a post you cant even understand wtf?

and ps I had a quick look and you have begun NUMEROUS threads not bike realted. They too are in rant and rave and do you hear me bleeting? People like you piss me off.

[skelstar]

I hate people who reply to a thread no one asked them to...
I sure hope you don't hate me as much that Texan that you have your knickers in a twist about.

[trump-lady]

I sure hope you don't hate me as much that Texan that you have your knickers in a twist about.

Your right, sexual assults, child abuse and rapes and injustices in any country do get my "knickers in a twist" as you say.

I dont hate you, you just annoyed me

Im over it

[Kemet]

Who could sit on a jury and send him to jail?


A jury is not bound by what is morally correct but what is acceptable in the eyes of the law.
Personally I think the little shit deserved what he had coming, just too bad that the little girl will lose her father for a stretch (although there's always the chance of probation from the start of his sentence given the nature of his crime).

If you are part of the jury it's not part of your job to sentence the defendant. You just decide if they broke the law or not.

Justice was served to the little prick but unfortunately, no matter how much you think the Dad was justified, he still broke the law. You would have to say guilty. Unless the conviction was worded in a way the could give you a loophole, like manslaughter instead of murder as an example.


The rest is up to the judge to decide on a fair conviction.

[skidMark]

or mebbe just another urban legend??

HEY!! SixPackBack's BACK everyone!!! :banana::2thumbsup:wari:


Of course SPB is posting, it's a thread to do with anal.

[MisterD]

just too bad that the little girl will lose her father for a stretch

Pun intended?

[Grahameeboy]

Sometimes you just got to take care of shit.

And then take the consequences on the chin.

Excellent, now the little girl has to deal with the rape and her Father in jail.....great Fathering support, put his emotions first before his Daughter's......now who needed the greatest support.........answers on a postcard

Sorry, understand his emotions but what a dork..........why didn't he just whack the guy a bit, take him to the Police and probably get a warning.

Now what ever way you look at it, the Father is a rapist...........good on ya mate.

[Grahameeboy]

Why the hell do we have to discuss shit like this on this site? It's not even a story from this country. Honestly if you were watching the any of the National News shows you'd wonder how it made our news.

Aren't there more important/relevant issues if you must feel like 'sharing' on this biker site?

Because there is a whole world out there............honest........

[vixter]

what a fucked up family!!!

[Grahameeboy]

what a fucked up family!!!

Sums it up eh Ms V..........."These were our people today"

[Taz]

The rapist gets no sympathy from me. The father shouldn't have raped him but should have finished him off and made it look like an accident. Rape is a despicable crime committed by people who are usually beyond reform and will offend again. Bring back the death penalty for rape and oh and speeding<_<

[FilthyLuka]

I hate people who reply to a thread no one asked them to

OH OH! i have something to contribute! i await my formal invitation to participate in this thread via PM

:rolleyes:

[Bikernereid]

Well I must say that once again a man behaved in a purely testosterone driven way. Did for one second the father not think about the implication of his actions upon the daughther, probably not. Why would he think about how it would affect the little girl, he was only bothered about doing what made him feel better.

He this moron stopped to think for 2 seconds then he might have realised that by undertaking the actions he did the little girl will now have to live with the knowledge that because of what happened to her she has now lost her father, her mother has lost her husband and the entire fanily is now completely fucked even more than if the lad had just been sent to prison.

And people wonder why rape victims don't go to the police. Well this type of vigilanty action is exactly why. maybe if these type of moronic males didn't take justice into thier own hands more females would feel more secure in going to the police knowing that there would not be illegal retributions that screw up thier family.

[owner]

Well I must say that once again a man behaved in a purely testosterone driven way. Did for one second the father not think about the implication of his actions upon the daughther, probably not. Why would he think about how it would affect the little girl, he was only bothered about doing what made him feel better.

He this moron stopped to think for 2 seconds then he might have realised that by undertaking the actions he did the little girl will now have to live with the knowledge that because of what happened to her she has now lost her father, her mother has lost her husband and the entire fanily is now completely fucked even more than if the lad had just been sent to prison.

And people wonder why rape victims don't go to the police. Well this type of vigilanty action is exactly why. maybe if these type of moronic males didn't take justice into thier own hands more females would feel more secure in going to the police knowing that there would not be illegal retributions that screw up thier family.

Well said, I must say I agree with her

[DEATH_INC.]

Well I must say that once again a man behaved in a purely testosterone driven way. Did for one second the father not think about the implication of his actions upon the daughther, probably not. Why would he think about how it would affect the little girl, he was only bothered about doing what made him feel better.

He this moron stopped to think for 2 seconds then he might have realised that by undertaking the actions he did the little girl will now have to live with the knowledge that because of what happened to her she has now lost her father, her mother has lost her husband and the entire fanily is now completely fucked even more than if the lad had just been sent to prison.

And people wonder why rape victims don't go to the police. Well this type of vigilanty action is exactly why. maybe if these type of moronic males didn't take justice into thier own hands more females would feel more secure in going to the police knowing that there would not be illegal retributions that screw up thier family.
Sorry, but I don't agree. If anyone did this to ANY female friend of mine, let alone Our little one, they wouldn't see the light of day again. I'd be so fucking angry that nothing would stop me, let alone rational thought. There are some crimes that don't deserve this stupid arse pc worlds form of justice, and that's definitely one of them.
I feel for the little one, but I'd have done it in the dad's position, no question.

[Bikernereid]

Maybe if you were female and had been raped you might understand the position I have stated. Do you have any idea of the guilt as a daughter you would feel knowing that you would lose all that time with your father because he was in prison?

I have had this argument with so many men and they only seem to think using thier gut reaction and can't see the female/daughter perspective.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but it is essential that you try and put yourself in others shoes. I can understand your point of view but until you have been raped I think you will never understand the female perspective.


Sorry, but I don't agree. If anyone did this to ANY female friend of mine, let alone Our little one, they wouldn't see the light of day again. I'd be so fucking angry that nothing would stop me, let alone rational thought. There are some crimes that don't deserve this stupid arse pc worlds form of justice, and that's definitely one of them.
I feel for the little one, but I'd have done it in the dad's position, no question.

[98tls]

Maybe if you were female and had been raped you might understand the position I have stated. Do you have any idea of the guilt as a daughter you would feel knowing that you would lose all that time with your father because he was in prison?

I have had this argument with so many men and they only seem to think using thier gut reaction and can't see the female/daughter perspective.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but it is essential that you try and put yourself in others shoes. I can understand your point of view but until you have been raped I think you will never understand the female perspective. First thought was cut the fuckers head off but to be honest you are right,what she needs is her old mans and familys love and attention.nice post.

[Bikernereid]

It is brilliant to hear that somone can go against their gut reaction and use logic to deal with a situation.

I couldn't have said it better myself, but yes as a daughter she does need her fathers love and support and to know that she has her family to provide some sense of stability in a fucked up situation.


First thought was cut the fuckers head off but to be honest you are right,what she needs is her old mans and familys love and attention.nice post.

[Bikernereid]

So it is perfectly acceptable for one person to rape and yet not another- ever heard of logic??


Give him a medal

[doc]

The rapist gets no sympathy from me. The father shouldn't have raped him but should have finished him off and made it look like an accident. Rape is a despicable crime committed by people who are usually beyond reform and will offend again. Bring back the death penalty for rape and oh and speeding<_<

I agree except for the speeding part well maybe if they were speeding in front of me.
Least the offenders seem to get more serious jail time in the USA. Over here, I think we are getting frustrated because of the PC crap interfering in the justice metered out. We are starting to feel we have to take it into our own hands to get satisfaction.

[Lias]

So it is perfectly acceptable for one person to rape and yet not another- ever heard of logic??

Hell I think the state should appoint a state appointed rapist.. Every sex offender gets a free ass pounding from some big black guy named bubba before they get killed by the state appointed executioner.

[Lias]

For posting "give the guy a medal" some nameless latte drinking JAFA decided to red rep me with "No one thinks that. Serious subject. Get real!"

Hell I'm perfectly serious.. That father should not be arrested, or punished for his actions. He should get the US equivalent of an order of merit medal for community service.

As far as I'm concered the minute that guy raped an 8 year old kid he gave up any human rights, legal rights, or any other rights. The father had every moral right to do what he did and should have the legal right too..

[Bikernereid]

You really are enlightened. You sound like enough of a red-neck that maybe you should apply to the US and ask if you can have that job!!


Hell I think the state should appoint a state appointed rapist.. Every sex offender gets a free ass pounding from some big black guy named bubba before they get killed by the state appointed executioner.

[ManDownUnder]

Confucius say: Before extracting revenge first dig two graves.

Boy is fucked [literally] and Dad is off to jail for a long stretch, [trying not to think about the wee lass being a dad an all].

Just a tragic story:no:

+1

ten chars....

[BarBender]

It is brilliant to hear that somone can go against their gut reaction and use logic to deal with a situation.


Not all people respond as a gut reaction.

For some it could be calculated response
For others its could be a values/morals based reply to what they and their loved ones may have logically and rationally accepted as an outcome.

I dont underestimate the impact of a horror such as rape on a rape victim.

Do you think you have perhaps underestimated the impact of such a tragedy on those close to them?
:)

[Bikernereid]

I have witnessed what rape can do to a family and believe me it is not pretty and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

I still believe that certain men and fathers are motivated by the primary fight or flight response in such instances and want to do something to try and restor order. They just do not necessarily think of the implications of their actions on those around them.


Not all people respond as a gut reaction.

For some it could be calculated response
For others its could be a values/morals based reply to what they and their loved ones may have logically and rationally accepted as an outcome.

I dont underestimate the impact of a horror such as rape on a rape victim.

Do you think you have perhaps underestimated the impact of such a tragedy on those close to them?
:)

[007XX]

For posting "give the guy a medal" some nameless latte drinking JAFA decided to red rep me with "No one thinks that. Serious subject. Get real!"

Hell I'm perfectly serious.. That father should not be arrested, or punished for his actions. He should get the US equivalent of an order of merit medal for community service.

As far as I'm concered the minute that guy raped an 8 year old kid he gave up any human rights, legal rights, or any other rights. The father had every moral right to do what he did and should have the legal right too..


You really are enlightened. You sound like enough of a red-neck that maybe you should apply to the US and ask if you can have that job!!




Ookkaaaayyy...This is a difficult one, as being a mother and obviously a female , I tend to want to hit hard on such a subject.

However, being at one another's throat is not going to help, is it?

As a mother, I'd tend to agree with Lias where someone doing something this horrible forgoes any entitlement to a treatment reserved to human beings.

As a woman, rape is one of the most horrible things that can happen to a person, and yes, that would be valid for men too...I have known a young man who had to suffer this fate, and he is and always will be scarred from the experience in ways I'd rather not describe here.

I agree wholeheartedly with Sixpackback that it is just a really tragic story.

[BarBender]

I still believe that certain men and fathers are motivated by the primary fight or flight response in such instances and want to do something to try and restor order.

My experience is that you cant pick them.

[Bikernereid]

As a mother I respect your opinion as such but as someone who has dealt with this issue personally I can tell you that the thought of losing my father to prison was not worth the risk of telling him. Luckily by the time he found out there was no way he could exact any retribution. If he had done what som many people on here are suggesting then he would have more than likely died in prison in stead of at home surrounded by his family. I, my brother, my mother and the rest of my family would have lost all those years with my dad and for what?


Ookkaaaayyy...This is a difficult one, as being a mother and obviously a female , I tend to want to hit hard on such a subject.

However, being at one another's throat is not going to help, is it?

As a mother, I'd tend to agree with Lias where someone doing something this horrible forgoes any entitlement to a treatment reserved to human beings.

As a woman, rape is one of the most horrible things that can happen to a person, and yes, that would be valid for men too...I have known a young man who had to suffer this fate, and he is and always will be scarred from the experience in ways I'd rather not describe here.

I agree wholeheartedly with Sixpackback that it is just a really tragic story.

[ManDownUnder]

Said it before - I'll say it again... testicular removal.

The threat of losing their malesness/manhood is enough to make a lot of guys take notice... and the loss of the source of many drives will also suppress the behaviour in the future...

[trump-lady]

One of the problems is there (USA) and our justice system. If going to the police and the courts some justice could be felt, then perhaps such things wouldnt happen. But look at the article....Obviously dad did report him and the little fuck was alowed bail. To make matters worse the dad is suppose to pick him up, bring him home around the daughter and feed and clothe him WTF. I say the shit deserved it and the only problem I see is dad shoulda paid someone else to do it so he didnt get busted.

I bet that stopped the little fuck from wanting to do it again, could the prison system offer that?

[ManDownUnder]

I bet that stopped the little fuck from wanting to do it again, could the prison system offer that?

Oficially no... unoficially... I understand Kiddie fiddlers don't have a good time in prison. A lot of things get overlooked from time to time in kiddie fiddler land... small things like locking doors to their cells... keeping them safe at night.

God help anyone charged that's actually innocent though...

[007XX]

As a mother I respect your opinion as such but as someone who has dealt with this issue personally I can tell you that the thought of losing my father to prison was not worth the risk of telling him. Luckily by the time he found out there was no way he could exact any retribution. If he had done what som many people on here are suggesting then he would have more than likely died in prison in stead of at home surrounded by his family. I, my brother, my mother and the rest of my family would have lost all those years with my dad and for what?

Sorry to hear...I bet that was a pretty difficult time in your life, which may still be affecting you, and quite rightly so...

I don't think there is an "emotional correct" answer, if you know what I mean.

[Drew]

Would not the knowledge that her father would go to such extreems give the girl some joy. And she knows damn well the fucker that touched her wont come nearer than four states as long as the dads alive.

Trying to think of what I'd do if my daughter was raped is a hard thing to do, but needless to say, the guy would never wlk again. I have many friends that would hapily take turns beating the sicko within an inch of his life, and some with enough medical practice to nurse him back to reletive health for more punishment. I could draw it out for years, and gift my daughter some video of it on her 21st birthday.

[FilthyLuka]

in perfect honesty, if something like this was done to one of MY family, the cunt would find himself with his dick in a vice, a hacksaw in his hands, in a burning shed

There is no punishment horrible enough for this sort of crime

Poor girl

[WTM]

Oops double post

[WTM]

Should he have done what he did? Probably not

Was it legal for him to do what he did? No

Whould I have done what he did? Yes but not by rape!

Suffice to say he would be incapable of most activities for the rest of his, no doubt short, life. (Hydrochloric acid and a skinning knife come to mind)

For a man or father, the concept of his wife/sister/mother/daughter being raped, is one that does not bear even contemplating (see the reaction of most of the men above).

For it to actually happen, is something that will cause the most severe reaction from a man, due to largely a feeling of failure and guilt for having not been there to protect her.

This is why in war woman are raped, not only just to subjugate just them, but to also inflict pain upon all of their family and society.

[Mom]

Not to put too fine a point on it, this is a terrible story and incredibly sad.

Frankly I dont believe there is any rehabilitation from the kind of life that obviously passes for normal in that household. The little girl at 8 will rehabilitate if removed from that situation, as for the rest of them......bullets are cheap eh?

[Grahameeboy]

[quote=007XX;1402086]

1) Ookkaaaayyy...This is a difficult one, as being a mother and obviously a female , I tend to want to hit hard on such a subject.

2) As a mother, I'd tend to agree with Lias where someone doing something this horrible forgoes any entitlement to a treatment reserved to human beings.

[Quote]

1) Why are Mums' different to Dad's on this.....:shutup:

2) I have to say that regardless of what he did, it did not give this guy the right to do what he did. The way I see it is that he only thought of his emotions and failed to think about the consequences of what he was going to do. He deserves to go to jail, however, tragic the circumstances were. I mean how would you feel, as Mum, if Neil did the same and ended up doing jail time for a few years and not having him around a your child's Father...........Child has no support from Father, especially after suffering such a horrible attack plus will know that their Father is not much better than the rapist..............

[Bikernereid]

I am fine now thanks. I just have a very good perspective on this issue and can see from the perspective of the person who has had the experience. I can honestly say that at the end of the day I would always choose to have had the 8 years I had with my dad before he died rather than have him be in prison!!

I know that dealing with my father being in prison would have been far worse than being raped. Many people may not understand this but at the end of the day the rape was one incident that I have dealt with but losing my father to the penal sytem would have psychologically and emotionally scared me far more. Losing the most important person in my life to a prison would just be hell on earth.

Everyone is different but I think that if you asked most women and men who have been raped if they would want thier father to end up in prison for a long stretch they would say a resounding NO!!


Sorry to hear...I bet that was a pretty difficult time in your life, which may still be affecting you, and quite rightly so...

I don't think there is an "emotional correct" answer, if you know what I mean.

[Toaster]

MY OPINION
---hopefully he has a ripped anal passage that gets infected and gives life to a oragnism that begins to eat him from his anal passage to the outside causing gangerine of all genitals and spreading to eat from the inside out his upper body however leaving all mental, and physical feelings working at 100 percent capacity.

k...nuff said

good on the dad but he will get fucked for doing it. If it were my daughter he wouldnt be so lucky.

Can I vote for you as Minister of Justice instead of these wetpants big-girls blouses we currently have in government?

[Bikernereid]

So glad to see that you are going into a caring profession!!


Can I vote for you as Minister of Justice instead of these wetpants big-girls blouses we currently have in government?

[trump-lady]

So glad to see that you are going into a caring profession!!


Well I am a social worker, love my job and some of my clients but trust me I bloody tell em when they fuck up and I tell them straight if you wont help yourself dont expect me too help you. I deal with the consequences of crime poverty and sexual abuse everyday but shit like this still infuriates me. Im very caring and understanding but I still say this asshole deserved what he got I just wish there was a legal way to inflict such justice because I would thing the reoffending rates for such crimes would drop.

[sunhuntin]

Oficially no... unoficially... I understand Kiddie fiddlers don't have a good time in prison. A lot of things get overlooked from time to time in kiddie fiddler land... small things like locking doors to their cells... keeping them safe at night.

God help anyone charged that's actually innocent though...

yeh, but the scum was bailed, so no prison justice.

[avgas]

Ah texas - only the fine come from there :)
Come out come out where ever you are texans ;)

[007XX]

1) Why are Mums' different to Dad's on this.....:shutup:

2) I have to say that regardless of what he did, it did not give this guy the right to do what he did. The way I see it is that he only thought of his emotions and failed to think about the consequences of what he was going to do. He deserves to go to jail, however, tragic the circumstances were. I mean how would you feel, as Mum, if Neil did the same and ended up doing jail time for a few years and not having him around a your child's Father...........Child has no support from Father, especially after suffering such a horrible attack plus will know that their Father is not much better than the rapist..............

What I meant is:

I can understand what urged this man to take upon himself to punish the offender. The pure anger that comes from having your young hurt is one of the most violent one there is...I'm sure you would know that too.
I do not however, condone his methods...Two wrongs don't make a right concept applies.

And Neil would never do such a thing...He might give the little turd a serious hiding (and what Father wouldn't?), but he would never stoop to the level of an eye for an eye. As much as I know he would have both the primary impulse and the means to do away with someone, he has enough self control and wisdom to control himself.

[Grahameeboy]

What I meant is:

I can understand what urged this man to take upon himself to punish the offender. The pure anger that comes from having your young hurt is one of the most violent one there is...I'm sure you would know that too.
I do not however, condone his methods...Two wrongs don't make a right concept applies.

And Neil would never do such a thing...He might give the little turd a serious hiding (and what Father wouldn't?), but he would never stoop to the level of an eye for an eye. As much as I know he would have both the primary impulse and the means to do away with someone, he has enough self control and wisdom to control himself.

But you did say "As a mother, I'd tend to agree with Lias where someone doing something this horrible forgoes any entitlement to a treatment reserved to human beings." hence my response 2) and taking Neil as a hypothetical scenario.

[007XX]

But you did say "As a mother, I'd tend to agree with Lias where someone doing something this horrible forgoes any entitlement to a treatment reserved to human beings." hence my response

Hence the fact I clarified my opinion...I don't condone the raping, but I have always thought that castration for sexual offenders was a reasonnable answer. And yes, I am quite serious about that. For a female, it gets a little trickier of course, but then, euthanasia comes to mind.

These are what I meant by "treatment reserved to animals", because a person commiting this type of crime in my mind is an animal, not a human being...


2) and taking Neil as a hypothetical scenario.

I know, I know...don't panic ol' fella! :hug: :laugh:

[Bikernereid]

Means let out on bail until court hearing, it does not mean he got off with what he did!!


yeh, but the scum was bailed, so no prison justice.

[Number One]

Means let out on bail until court hearing, it does not mean he got off with what he did!!

I'll bet his 8 year old step-sister trying to sleep in the room down the hall isn't so chuffed about the delay in putting her dirty little bastard step bro behind bars as soon as possible! And actually he did get away with it...cos it happened and that poor girl's perspective, attitude and likely personality will be changed forever.

Why should he be allowed to walk free until he's brought before the court? Seems there isn't much doubt that he did it...fathers actions not acceptable but can appreciate the blinding fury that would've overcome that daddy.

NO victim feels safe or happy or comfortable knowing their 'animal' is walking around loose 'until they get their day in court'...you can see why people have no faith in the legal system and so don't come forward to bring these repugnant losers down. The victim (already traumatised) generally has to defend themself, working to prove they didn't 'ask for it', 'bring it on themselves' or have a 'questionable character that could make the crime seem less of a bad thing' while the perp gets to sit back feeling all powerful in the knowledge that they are tearing a victim down even further in the fight to make that person accountable for that which they dearly bloody deserve to be punished IMHO without mercy.

Said it before and will say it again:
Rapists should have their balls nailed to the floor of a wooden cabin, set that to light and they have the option to get up and run or stay and burn...should they actually have the will to run I'm waiting outside with a double barrel of some description.

Hot flush - moving on...must get post count up :innocent:

[Bikernereid]

He has a right to be let out on bail if they do not thik he poses a danger, ok letting him is odd but it is the US.

If he had to be let out then I think that he should have had a restraining tyope order that made it a legal requirement for him to stay away from the girl. Maybe the mother would have organised this had she had the chance.

Oh well I guess there will not be TWO rapists going to gail and who is no know which one will have the better time of it, the one who raped a young girl or the one who raped another man!!

Two wrongs never make a right and there are laws set down so that we do not end up in an anarchical, linch-mob mentakity driven society.


I'll bet his 8 year old step-sister trying to sleep in the room down the hall isn't so chuffed about the delay in putting her dirty little bastard step bro behind bars as soon as possible! And actually he did get away with it...cos it happened and that poor girl's perspective, attitude and likely personality will be changed forever.

Why should he be allowed to walk free until he's brought before the court? Seems there isn't much doubt that he did it...fathers actions not acceptable but can appreciate the blinding fury that would've overcome that daddy.

NO victim feels safe or happy or comfortable knowing their 'animal' is walking around loose 'until they get their day in court'...you can see why people have no faith in the legal system and so don't come forward to bring these repugnant losers down. The victim (already traumatised) generally has to defend themself, working to prove they didn't 'ask for it', 'bring it on themselves' or have a 'questionable character that could make the crime seem less of a bad thing' while the perp gets to sit back feeling all powerful in the knowledge that they are tearing a victim down even further in the fight to make that person accountable for that which they dearly bloody deserve to be punished IMHO without mercy.

Said it before and will say it again:
Rapists should have their balls nailed to the floor of a wooden cabin, set that to light and they have the option to get up and run or stay and burn...should they actually have the will to run I'm waiting outside with a double barrel of some description.

Hot flush - moving on...must get post count up :innocent:

[Number One]

He has a right to be let out on bail if they do not thik he poses a danger, ok letting him is odd but it is the US.

So raping very young girls means he doesn't pose a danger? It seems pretty clear that the little bugger actually did pose a danger. Again....you baffle me...for someone who has had an 'experience' you seem terribly 'accepting' of the aggressor - don't get me wrong, been there myself, get the whole you need to forgive to move on bollocks but come on! ....I don't believe things are always clear cut but seems in this case it was so the little shit deserves to be locked up.


If he had to be let out then I think that he should have had a restraining tyope order that made it a legal requirement for him to stay away from the girl. Maybe the mother would have organised this had she had the chance..

Now why would a child raping adult 'have to be let out?'....
And Restraining orders....ha ha ha haaa - bits of paper are just sooo helpful in keeping bad guys away from their victims. You obviously missed hearing our media coverage (while you were here) about the guy who stabbed and killed both his ex, her new friend and even tried to take out other family members who were staying at the address. No one can do squat to someone 'you have an order out against' until they have 'breached' it...oh and by breaching that means totally disregarding the bit of paper...not a hard thing to do:argh:



Oh well I guess there will not be TWO rapists going to gail and who is no know which one will have the better time of it, the one who raped a young girl or the one who raped another man!!

Two wrongs never make a right and there are laws set down so that we do not end up in an anarchical, linch-mob mentakity driven society.

You seem to be off on a completely different tangent while trying to argue another....

Neither of those two should be excused for what they did - I can understand the fury of the father but rape is I believe (except for hurting or killing someone's children) the worst thing one human can do to another and I don't believe that those who go forth and rape deserve a second chance to repeat their behaviour...especially where they haven't even yet been called to account for what they did in the first place...and again, in this instance there seemed little doubt that the boy did the crime.

Anarchic - "showing no respect for established laws, rules, institutions, or authority"

...let me work this through....THE CHILD RAPIST should be allowed the opportunity to 'wait his time out for court' outside of jail (or confinement), in the comfort of his home (two doors down from lil-sissy) or wherever he (or his mother?!:lol: my god that just sounds sooo trailor park) may decide to 'hole up' with him...this would no doubt be fairly scary and intimidating for the little step-sister...that's ok and not anarchic?

But keeping the GUILTY little bugger confined until he is brought before the courts (meaning no risk of causing more harm and suffering) given that it was pretty cut and dried that he HAD ACTUALLY RAPED the girl - that's anarchic?
Which most strongly 'shows no respect for established laws and rules'? Is it the bit where we all bow down in a PC manner to ensure we don't tip toe on the poor low life scumms feelings 'or rights'...guess what these freaks don't give a shit about yours.......when will we all stop expecting that each other 'be expected to tolerate, molleycoddle and excuse offenders'? oh and while I'm at it...GO DARWIN!

...lynch mob my arse...PC is the problem bring back the lynch mob! Or the ratan...you don't get up to shit in Asia where they have that...some of the lowest in the world apparently. Let's start chopping off hands too - ha haaa People aren't discouraged enough from doing stuff they shouldn't! Damn them and their evil doing ways!

...seriously though, I can cope with quite a bit of dodgey but pardon the pun...'fucking with people' is not on - chop their cocks off...Larraine where are you?!