New Forum for NWS

[Mental Trousers]

Due to the increasing amount of material (due mainly to the membership numbers growing rapidly) that is not work safe (NWS) appearing on Kiwibiker the decision has been made to create a forum specifically to handle this material as the majority of it is not motorcycle related.

This forum is home to topics and material that are within the site rules but are either not motorcycle related and/or off topic, and are NWS (Not Work Safe). Please note that any posts within this forum will not be counted in your Post Count.

To gain access to the L.O.A. forum you will need to join the L.O.A. group. To do this goto:

User CP
Group Memberships (on the left side of the control panel at the bottom)
tick the box Join Group
click the button Join Group

NOTE to post in the L.O.A. forum you must also be a Senior Member (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/faq.php?faq=kb_site_utitles#faq_kb_site_utitles8)

Images must comply with the following requirements. Any images that do not comply will be removed and the person who posted them will receive an infraction:

no visible genitalia
no spread legs shots
no images showing death, violence, racism, obsenity, vulgarity or suffering
no images that violate New Zealand law
no images of children or animals


Images that contain the following are permitted:

breasts
buttocks
pubes
nakedness


Thread topics and posts must not contain:

graphic descriptions of sexual acts, violence, injury, suffering, racism, death, or obsenities
soliciting for any activity of an illegal, sexual, violent or racist nature


NOTE this is not a forum for pornography

All other site rules apply.

[Mental Trousers]

NOTE anyone posting NWS material in other forums that belongs in LOA WILL have an infraction issued with no warnings.

[MSTRS]

So anything that was previously in R+R (for instance) and was NWS should now be posted in here??

[Kendog]

What does L.O.A. stand for?

[Mental Trousers]

So anything that was previously in R+R (for instance) and was NWS should now be posted in here??

Yes


What does L.O.A. stand for?

I'm not telling :cool:

[Skunk]

Lots of Arse...

[Waylander]

NOTE anyone posting NWS material in other forums that belongs in LOA WILL have an infraction issued with no warnings.
Another pointless attempt at censorship?

Did the PD forum keep drivel out of the rest of the forums?
Why fix what ain't broke.

[Trudes]

So do we have to post pictures of our pussys in here or are they still acceptable for general viewing?

[MSTRS]

So do we have to post pictures of our pussys in here or are they still acceptable for general viewing?

Depends on the grooming?

[Gubb]

<img src="http://brokekid.net/img/This_Cat_is_Shaved.jpg"></img>

[Mental Trousers]

Another pointless attempt at censorship?

Did the PD forum keep drivel out of the rest of the forums?
Why fix what ain't broke.
You seem to have your head stuck firmly up your arse Jacob. I wasn't aware that an opt in system was censorship as everything is there if people want to see it, all they have to do is tick a box. Same rules as always just now it's all gathered together in 1 place.

[Trudes]

That is one seriously pissed off looking shaved pussy!!

[bugjuice]

ya gonna be hard pushed to find a photo that has all this;

no visible genitalia
no spread legs shots
no images showing death, violence, racism, obsenity, vulgarity or suffering
no images that violate New Zealand law
no images of children or animals

in one pic anyway, so I think we're safe.. Be an awful mess of a photo


however, I'd like to point out, you say no; no visible genitalia and no spread legs shots
but ok to; breasts, buttocks, pubes and nakedness..

which is also kind of hard to judge..

[Gubb]

ya gonna be hard pushed to find a photo that has all this;

no visible genitalia
no spread legs shots
no images showing death, violence, racism, obsenity, vulgarity or suffering
no images that violate New Zealand law
no images of children or animals

in one pic anyway, so I think we're safe.. Be an awful mess of a photo

...Sounds like a challenge to me.

[Weaver]

I never knew what NWS stood for up until now. I thought it might be something like, New Wales South.

[Swoop]

Images that contain the following will be removed and the person who posted them will receive an infraction:

no visible genitalia

Huh?
So if I post a picture of a fully dressed person (someone not showing genitalia) I get spanked on the wrist with a wet bus ticket?

Very confusing. The england needs work.

[RiderInBlack]

So KB is getting more PC with it's NWS, which is now LOA.
Wonder how long it with take before it's PD.

So Sad, Never Mind

[bugjuice]

So KB is getting more PC with it's NWS, which is now LOA.
Wonder how long it with take before it's PD.

So Sad, Never Mind
kb logo is changing to this soon;


<img src="http://www.rresults.com/062879/images/surveylogo2.gif"></img>

do actually miss the old days when no one gave a crap, and we all had fun.
who's complained so much, that all this enforcing has come in?

[Mental Trousers]

So KB is getting more PC with it's NWS, which is now LOA.
Wonder how long it with take before it's PD.

So Sad, Never Mind
You're right, it's not like the old days. There's only 2 posts wah'ing on about censorship/PC/etc.

Problem is that in the old days the site had a membership of 2,000. At the moment it's growing at 2,000 in less than 6 months.

Btw, fixed the ambiguous wording. Thanks for pointing it out guys.

[RantyDave]

So KB is getting more PC with it's NWS, which is now LOA.
It's a question of balancing up the needs of people who get offended while not wanting to be deleting stuff, moving stuff to PD, and generally speaking being an arsehole and/or censoring things. I've not seen anyone object to marking images as NSFW - this just extends the concept to an entire forum.

View it as PC if you want, but really it's a green light, innit?

Dave

[bugjuice]

Problem is that in the old days the site had a membership of 2,000. At the moment it's growing at 2,000 in less than 6 months.
so..?

[Mental Trousers]

so..?
... so things change. The site is growing. What works for 2,000 doesn't work for 10,000+.

Ever tried to figure out how to run things smoothly for over 10,000 people?? I'm guessing the answer to that is no.

[Virago]

so..?

'taint rocket science - the site is getting bigger and busier.

This is just a minor change in forum structure and categorisation. There's nothing to stop you from posting and viewing NWS stuff, this change just puts it all in one place.

There was also a new Bucket Racing forum set up today.

Minor changes - get over it.

[bugjuice]

but we're all here for the same thing, aren't we? so why would it matter if it were 50 or 100,000? just the same people..
and if they don't like it, harden up, or they know where the door is!

i just think it's a shame to be carving up something that was so orsum back in the day, and it has to crumble and bow to PC nerds (not the computer ones) like everything else in this god-damn world so all the fun gets spoiled. Next thing we know, it'll go commercial like a few other sites I've seen crumble, and things just really become generic. Then KB is really lost to the world

and minor changes, fine. I can live with it. But 'minor 'improvements'' where things are becoming more and more separated and 'PC-fied' is just almost....
i'm not saying it
what was wrong with it all in one forum?

[Ixion]

but we're all here for the same thing, aren't we? so why would it matter if it were 50 or 100,000? just the same people..
and if they don't like it, harden up, or they know where the door is!

i just think it's a shame to be carving up something that was so orsum back in the day, and it has to crumble and bow to PC nerds (not the computer ones) like everything else in this god-damn world so all the fun gets spoiled. Next thing we know, it'll go commercial like a few other sites I've seen crumble, and things just really become generic. Then KB is really lost to the world

and minor changes, fine. I can live with it. But 'minor 'improvements'' where things are becoming more and more separated and 'PC-fied' is just almost....
i'm not saying it
what was wrong with it all in one forum?

The old KB flickered and died a while ago. The New KB is resolutely PC.

" For now I see the true old times are dead,
When every morning brought a noble post,
And every chance brought out a merry jest.
Such times have been not since the light that led
The holy Elders with the gift of myrrh.
But now the old Kiwibiker is dissolved
Which was an image of the mighty world;
And we,who remember, go forth companionless,
And the days darken round me, and the years,
Among new men, strange faces, other minds."

The Heaven Born do not approve of Naughty Pictures. The first step to eliminating the objectionable is have it collected and concentrated in one place. Much easier to delete or remove access from a single forum than to have to trawl through many scattered posts.

[Mental Trousers]

Back in the day having the occasional message with a dodgy title and an R rated picture in it wasn't a problem. But now there's far, far more than the occasional one and it's putting people at work at risk. It's not uncommon for someones boss to see NWS and pussy on the screen and instantly think that person is surfing porn.

As I said in the 1st post it's simply the sheer quantity that's the problem. The site rules regarding NWS stuff have actually eased up since the early days. But again, it's the quantity.

[Her_C4]

The Heaven Born do not approve of Naughty Pictures......

Bollocks...

Whose thread is T & A then? Sometimes your comments are quite profound and other times they appear like an ill thought out attempt at trolling... Will the real Ixion please stand up.. :whistle:

[Fatjim]

You seem to have your head stuck firmly up your arse Jacob. I wasn't aware that an opt in system was censorship as everything is there if people want to see it, all they have to do is tick a box. Same rules as always just now it's all gathered together in 1 place.


Who do I talk to about this objectional post?

[Waylander]

You seem to have your head stuck firmly up your arse Jacob. I wasn't aware that an opt in system was censorship as everything is there if people want to see it, all they have to do is tick a box. Same rules as always just now it's all gathered together in 1 place.
I still don't see a point.
If this was to keep kids from seeing the stuff then you've only made it easier for them.

IF it was so that people checking the site at work wouldn't set off bells and whistles tech admin, maybe they shouldn't be checking the site from work in the first place. Or keep it as simple as it was and just have people put NWS in the thread topic if they are going to post something such and the tick box that were already in place.

[Kickaha]

Or keep it as simple as it was and just have people put NWS in the thread topic if they are going to post something such and the tick box that were already in place.

A lot of people have problems doing something as simple as that

[RiderInBlack]

Funny how defensive Admin gets when users just state that they are disappointed with the major change made.
No ya can't please everyone, but I do trier of "Leaders" bowing ta a few squeaky PC prudish voices.
As for those "Snapped" viewing "porn" at work, they made their choice when they ticked:
<FIELDSET class=fieldset><LEGEND>Image censoring</LEGEND><TABLE cellSpacing=3 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Do you wish to censor avatars & attachment thumbnails containing nudity?
When members upload avatars & images, they are asked to specify if it contains nudity. These avatars are not displayed with this option turned on.</TD></TR><TR><TD><LABEL for=rb_cpf_field9_1><INPUT id=rb_cpf_field9_1 type=radio value=1 name=userfield[field9]>Yes</LABEL> <LABEL for=rb_cpf_field9_2><INPUT id=rb_cpf_field9_2 type=radio CHECKED value=2 name=userfield[field9]>No</LABEL> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></FIELDSET> in:
Thread Display Options of Edit Options in their User Control Panel.

Simply put, if ya going ta complain about nudity, then tick yes in the Image Censoring panel and don't look at it. If ya have ticked not ta censor then ya have made ya choice, deal with.

[Gubb]

That's a moot point if the uploader doesn't check the box though.

The changes don't bother me, I like having everything organised into one place.

[RiderInBlack]

FFS even the "Nude" Ken and Barbie Dolls (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1401228&postcount=5857) Weaver posted here as an example got PD'ed. Someone needs ta get a new life/job or lighten-up IMHO.

[RiderInBlack]

That's a moot point if the uploader doesn't check the box though.Then what has really change there? The Mod would have ended-up spanking the "perp's" fingers for not ticking:

<LEGEND>Attach Files</LEGEND>Valid file extensions: doc gif jpg kmz pdf pps psd swf torrent xls
Check the box next to any images that contain nudity.
<SCRIPT src="clientscript/vbulletin_attachment.js?v=368" type=text/javascript></SCRIPT><SCRIPT type=text/javascript> <!-- var newpost_attachmentbit = '\r\n <input type="checkbox" name="censor_%3$s" value="1" %7$s />\r\n http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/%1$s\r\n %5$s (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=%3$s&stc=1&d=%4$s)\r\n (%6$s)\r\n
'; vB_Attachments = new vB_Attachment('attachlist', ''); document.write('<input type="button" id="manage_attachments_button" class="button" tabindex="1" style="font-weight:normal" value="Manage Attachments" title="Click here to add or edit files attached to this message" onclick="vB_Attachments.open_window(\'newattachment.php?t=6 5898&poststarttime=1201547111&posthash=d97b52f92ae8d3e00b9e48ecec8ca86f\', 480, 480, \'1401620\')" />'); //--> </SCRIPT>


Before they send the post.

[doc]

Problem is that in the old days the site had a membership of 2,000. At the moment it's growing at 2,000 in less than 6 months.

School holidays almost over, most the new members will go quiet again soon.

[Mental Trousers]

Who do I talk to about this objectional post?

I can issue an infraction to myself for abuse of a site member .... at least I think I can ....

EDIT I had a good fiddle around and the only way to issue an infraction to me or Spank is to get messy with SQL and I can't be bothered.


I still don't see a point.
If this was to keep kids from seeing the stuff then you've only made it easier for them.

IF it was so that people checking the site at work wouldn't set off bells and whistles tech admin, maybe they shouldn't be checking the site from work in the first place. Or keep it as simple as it was and just have people put NWS in the thread topic if they are going to post something such and the tick box that were already in place.

The point is that the thread title doesn't show up in the New Posts etc and the "R Rated" pic won't be showing up on screen at an unfortunate time - unless you want them to. Most people viewing kb from work do so during their breaks, something that is fine with the companies they work for. What isn't fine is having a pic that says "R Rated" etc on the screen.


..... something I couldn't read cos of all the BBcode tags .....

See above.


FFS even the "Nude" Ken and Barbie Dolls (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1401228&postcount=5857) Weaver posted here as an example got PD'ed. Someone needs ta get a new life/job or lighten-up IMHO.

How was that on subject?? The site rules still apply, pointless crap belongs in the pointless crap section, that hasn't changed.


School holidays almost over, most the new members will go quiet again soon.

The growth rate has been steadily increasing for over a year. Doesn't seem to be linked to anything like school holidays etc.

[Hitcher]

Simply put, if ya going ta complain about nudity, then tick yes in the Image Censoring panel and don't look at it. If ya have ticked not ta censor then ya have made ya choice, deal with.

The poster of "questionable" or "objectionable" material is the person on whom responsibility for posting should fall and to whom consequences should be attributable, not the person reading those posts.

Posters are generally lazy folk, and quick to post their latest item of purilently salacious ooze, often without attaching any form of NWS warning or ticking the nudity box. Indeed some are so rapturous to post pulsating pulchritude that they actually embed the image, and in so doing bypassing the censorship measures this site employs.

More devout bikers should not have to avert their eyes when inadvertently stumbling across surprising sexual sewerage. Nor should they have to explain to their partners, children or employers the reasons for such lascivious lewdness leering from their monitors, when they were not intentionally seeking it.

The LOA facility is not "censorship" as some allege. It is merely a quarantine facility to accommodate the needs of those who expect titillation to be available on every site they visit. A place for everything, and everything in its place. Enjoy.

[Joni]

MT.... you will soon learn you are damned if you do, and damned if you dont!

There will always be the arsehole who objects.... I suggest do it Spankme style... tell people how it is, and stop justifying yourself... you know that this is a good solution based on what has been discussed..... if 0.005% dont see that.... pffft!

[Mental Trousers]

MT.... you will soon learn you are damned if you do, and damned if you dont!

There will always be the arsehole who objects.... I suggest do it Spankme style... tell people how it is, and stop justifying yourself... you know that this is a good solution based on what has been discussed..... if 0.005% dont see that.... pffft!
It's alright, I don't mind banging heads. It's fun :laugh:

There's always people who will object. I thought there'd be more though.

[idb]

..... purilently.....

Can't find that in the dictionary Hitcher.
Your whole post is unclear.
How frustrating...I'm sure you were trying to make a good point too.

[Steam]

He slipped up on "manoeuvred" the other day, too.
Must be getting old.

Time for a Goldwing.

[sunhuntin]

He slipped up on "manoeuvred" the other day, too.
Must be getting old.

Time for a Goldwing.

ouch, LOL.

[bugjuice]

i'm not usually one to cause trouble, i just hate it when people move so much furniture around, and things go totally PC, that it just doesn't look like home any more.. sucks enough the old kb is in Google's archives as it is

[Ixion]

The point is that the thread title doesn't show up in the New Posts etc and the "R Rated" pic won't be showing up on screen at an unfortunate time - unless you want them to. Most people viewing kb from work do so during their breaks, something that is fine with the companies they work for. What isn't fine is having a pic that says "R Rated" etc on the screen.



So it is just a variation of PD. And posts will not show with the New Posts utility, which will be a great nuisance. Since, to achieve the stated aim , any thread at all containing a post that the devout might object to must go in this new PD forum. So, if someone puts up a thead about the new Poopmocycle, with a motorcycle show picture of said new bike, adorned as always with the inevitable bikini clad hotty totty, it must go into the new forum. And those who use the New Posts feature will be unaware of its existence. And what happens if someone makes a post, objectionable to the devout, in a thread hitherto of unimpeachable moral probity . Presumably the thread must then be removed in toto to purgatory.




More devout bikers should not have to avert their eyes when inadvertently stumbling across surprising sexual sewerage


If we are to censor all that is objectionable to the devout, there will be little left. And which devout? Does only Christian devotion count? Or, should we accomodate the requirements of Sharia' law also? Will the female form only be permissable if burkha clad ?

And what of other spiritual derelictions objectionable to the devout (there are lots and lots of those - the devout object to a great deal) ? May we also look forward to similar censorship of posts which take the Lord's name in vain?

[idb]

I can see the reasoning but I access all new posts through 'New Posts' so I'll still have to wade through the same shit.

In the Good Old Days(TM) much of the OT/R&R stuff was interesting and amusing and worth reading but it seems to me that now there is a lot of crap posted between people that would be better sent by txt, e-mail or just picking up the bloody phone.
At the very least PMs could be used more.

As much as I feel uncomfortable about censorship/PC/Big Brother/whatever you like, some regulation is required wherever there is a disparate group of people interacting.
Think meeting rules, traffic regulations, accepted social norms.




Hmmm...I feel a bit better.

[onearmedbandit]

Actually Ixion old chap, what is happening is we are working towards a system of pre-approving everyones post before it goes up on KB. That way we will offend no-one and everyone. Next on the agenda is regular home-visits to be carried out by a mobile mod team (MMT's) to ensure that none of you talk to each other without our approval first. Sorry, but as far as the next steps go, well you will be informed when we feel the time is right.

Face it, we will take over the world piece by piece. We are only starting at KB.

[Ixion]

The studied contempt with which the Heaven Born, the self appointed elite of the world , regard mere members is well known, and nothing new. More of the promised leadering I suppose.

[Mental Trousers]

So it is just a variation of PD. And posts will not show with the New Posts utility, which will be a great nuisance.

Join the LOA group and they show up in New Posts. Don't join it and you'll never know they exist.


I can see the reasoning but I access all new posts through 'New Posts' so I'll still have to wade through the same shit.

In the Good Old Days(TM) much of the OT/R&R stuff was interesting and amusing and worth reading but it seems to me that now there is a lot of crap posted between people that would be better sent by txt, e-mail or just picking up the bloody phone.
At the very least PMs could be used more.

As much as I feel uncomfortable about censorship/PC/Big Brother/whatever you like, some regulation is required wherever there is a disparate group of people interacting.
Think meeting rules, traffic regulations, accepted social norms.




Hmmm...I feel a bit better.

You're not wrong about the shift from interesting and amusing off topic stuff to spurious tripe. However, again, that's simply a function of the growth in the site. That sort of crap used to happen, but so rarely that nobody noticed. Now the percentage is still the same, but the actual number is significantly higher.

If this was censorship then things would be removed. They're not, they're just living in a different spot now.

[Joni]

Join the LOA group and they show up in New Posts. Don't join it and you'll never know they exist.Umm actually they appear in my new posts! :confused:

I dont want them too!

Make them go away please...

[Joni]

OK, while MT is sorting out the technical stuff... I have been thinking.

There have always been guidelines about nudity and what is acceptable and what is not... so that has never changed, what has changed is that there is a forum for it now...

So you guys are bitching because you can post pics any time you like, all day long of you like?? They wont be moved, removed, edited etc etc...

Hmm... yes that is censorship 100%... bastard mods, stop letting people post! You Nazi pigs...

:lol:

Fuck, people crack me up.
Damned if you... damned if you dont.

[Mental Trousers]

omg, somebody gets it

/me falls off chair

[Lissa]

Some people just dont have anything else to do Joni. KB is part of their lives, and people generally don't like or embrace change (even if it such a small thing as a new forum for dodgy shit) . I dont object at all to LOA, not sure how popular it will be though, or what kind of people will be posting.

[Joni]

omg, somebody gets it

/me falls off chairYeah... but it will be argued I still think like a Mod...

So if I swear and abuse you, would that work?

arsehole! (is that not abusive enough?)


:laugh:

[onearmedbandit]

Oooo, I feel an infraction coming along.

[Joni]

Oooo, I feel an infraction coming along.bring it on big boy....

I know where you live!!!!

Errr, ok no I dont!

:hug:

[skelstar]

What cracks me up is that I understand that it you couldn't find someone who could/would mod the new forum and you had to recruit?

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm prepared to be.

[Her_C4]

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm prepared to be.

Good. You are wrong :shit:

[skelstar]

Good. You are wrong :shit:
Fair enough, so no new moderators for L.O.A then.

[Joni]

Fair enough, so no new moderators for L.O.A then.yes one new Mod.... but you know that... and we all know your and my thoughts around that.

so Ssshhhhhh!

:shit:

[Her_C4]

What cracks me up is that I understand that it you couldn't find someone who could/would mod the new forum and you had to recruit?

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm prepared to be.


Good. You are wrong :shit:


Fair enough, so no new moderators for L.O.A then.

Hmmm hair splitting?? :msn-wink:

Let me clarify for you then. We have both old and new (literally and figuratively speaking....) moderators for the forum, same as we do for other forums :laugh:

Not quite sure why it would 'crack you up' if it where indeed true that no-one 'could /would' mod the new forum? :confused:

Each to their own I guess :devil2: :bleh:

[oldrider]

Has all this happened since Mr Sensible became a moderator? :rolleyes: Just wondering, :pinch: John.

[Mental Trousers]

Has all this happened since Mr Sensible became a moderator? :rolleyes: Just wondering, :pinch: John.
Heh, interesting but no. The LOA thing had been in motion before Mr Sensible joined the team.

[Swoop]

Btw, fixed the ambiguous wording. Thanks for pointing it out guys.

Images should contain none of the following. Any that do will be removed, the person who posted them will receive an infraction:
no visible genitalia
no spread legs shots
no images showing death, violence, racism, obsenity, vulgarity or suffering
no images that violate New Zealand law
no images of children or animals

Still sounds crap.
"Contain none no..."?


Try:
Images must comply with the following requirements. Any images that do not comply will be removed and the person who posted them will receive an infraction:
no visible genitalia
no spread legs shots
no images showing death, violence, racism, obsenity, vulgarity or suffering
no images that violate New Zealand law
no images of children or animals

[Kendog]

Seems like a great idea to me.

I read KB at work during lunch (like right now) and there are about 8 people that can see my screen from their desks, plus any number of people that happen to walk past.
Having NWS threads filtered out of the new posts list is perfect for me. I have the 'Show nudity' set to no, but that does not stop offensive thread titles. If I want to look at these at home I can go to that specific forum (it's not difficult).
If I didn't have the work situation, I would register so I could see them all the time (also not difficult)

[Ixion]

Images should contain none of the following. Any that do will be removed, the person who posted them will receive an infraction:
no visible genitalia
no spread legs shots
no images showing death, violence, racism, obsenity, vulgarity or suffering
no images that violate New Zealand law
no images of children or animals


So, the attached image is definately out then? containing as it does death, racism, and suffering.

And what of links? A post that itself would pass muster by an archbishop. But contains a link to a site where Naughty Things may be seen?

[Joni]

Ixion do you have a really really HUGE bush of hair on your head? You must have with all the hair splitting you do....

[jrandom]

So, the attached image is definately out then?

Absolutely!

I was, only this morning, given a warning for posting a photograph (culled from the BBC) of a thief in some Middle Asian country tied to a post, having his feet burned.

He was blindfolded and obviously in significant discomfort.

(According to the news story, he was allowed down shortly thereafter and given appropriate treatment.)

The photo was forcibly removed from my post.

Now, I would imagine that a pictorial depiction of a man nailed to a post, bleeding to death, would be far worse in terms of potential offense and infringement of the Site Rules.

I await news of your impending infraction and/or official warning with interest.

:corn:

[Ixion]

Ah, but we are told that the new forum is to prevent offence to the (presumably Judeo-Christian) devout. And the devout certainly could have no issues with a depiction of such holiness. Moreover to censure me for posting it would unleash a nice mares-nest of human rights issues.

(BTW, our Lord did not actually bleed to death. The mechanism of death involves suffocation, hypoxia and pericardial perfusion - fluid accumulates around the heart and squashes it. Hence the 'water' that came out when the soldier thrust in the spear. )

[Ixion]

Ixion do you have a really really HUGE bush of hair on your head? You must have with all the hair splitting you do....

'Twas not for nothing that my nickname when I was a union delegate was 'Rulebook'

[RiderInBlack]

How was that on subject?? The site rules still apply, pointless crap belongs in the pointless crap section, that hasn't changed.
Sorry don't buy that MT.
The "Nude" Ken and Barbie Dolls (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1401228&postcount=5857) Weaver posted was very much related to the topic.

He slipped up on "manoeuvred" the other day, too.
Must be getting old.

Time for a Goldwing.
Is that going ta PD too?? It's definitely not "On Topic". I bet no. I wonder why?

Yes I do "Get This". Had everyone play by the rules in the first place we would not have gone there. Just think we had enough in place already.

[Joni]

'Twas not for nothing that my nickname when I was a union delegate was 'Rulebook'Heeeeey that was my nickname until a few weeks ago as well!

The rules you are quesatioining now have been part of KB for a long time, in fact you were "enforcing" them Ixion style when you were a mod... so why question them now? Or do you just need a bone to chew?

[Ixion]

Not so. The principle of giving no offence to the devout is certainly new.

Moreover, it appears that even a thread TITLE that may be construed as lascivious by the sufficiently prurient, regardless of the CONTENT of the thread is now forbidden in public view. That is certainly a new rule.

[Joni]

Your bush is growing Les! :eek:

[Ixion]

Indeed? I wonder then if I may hope that that which lurks within the bush will grow as well.

And, if salacious pictorial matter is to be exiled, should not the same fate be doomed for salacious words? The devout are as likely to object to them as to pictures.

Which will make innuendo interesting indeed. Mr Random and I will have great scope for our semantic arguments.

[007XX]

Which will make innuendo interesting indeed. Mr Random and I will have great scope for our semantic arguments.

I am torn between delight and horror at the prospect...

[onearmedbandit]

Hey, here is a newsflash! If you don't like it, vote with your feet. There are plenty of other forums out there. If however, you want to stay, you play by the rules. Simple see. SpankMe never said KB was a democracy.

Better yet, all of those who think they can do better, or that they have the answer, go set up your own forum.

[Mental Trousers]

Sorry don't buy that MT.
The "Nude" Ken and Barbie Dolls (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1401228&postcount=5857) Weaver posted was very much related to the topic.

Ok. The thread is about a forum for gathering together all of the NWS stuff. Ken and Barbie dolls have nothing to do with that. Without clothes they're still childrens toys. So unless you have some sort of sicko ideas about those dolls they have nothing to do with this thread and have been moved somewhere appropriate. And if you do have sicko ideas about those dolls then the problem is not the image but the viewer.

Please tell me how that image was relevant to this thread.

[Joni]

It must feel like ground hog day for you OAB.... just when you started getting used to not being a Mod... you have to start saying the same old speeches again! :confused: :bleh:

[Hitcher]

go set up your own forum.

Or test the moderators at www.bikemad.co.nz

[idb]

Has all this happened since Mr Sensible became a moderator? :rolleyes: Just wondering, :pinch: John.

I thought he was The Goderator!!!

[Ixion]

Hey, here is a newsflash! If you don't like it, vote with your feet. There are plenty of other forums out there. If however, you want to stay, you play by the rules. Simple see. SpankMe never said KB was a democracy.

Better yet, all of those who think they can do better, or that they have the answer, go set up your own forum.

The answer to that is the same as that to those who make the same demand of Kiwis who object to the doings of the government of our other Dear Leader, Frau Helen. "My country right or wrong - if right, to be kept right, if wrong, to be set right".

One does one's humble best in pursuit of the latter, in both the greater and lesser planes.

And, as a general principle, I hold it behoven upon all people to question and resist those who seek to impose new rules. Most particularly when such rules are imposed arbitrarily by an elite or ruling class. Indeed, the less representative the society, the more important the duty of questioning becomes, since only thus is the inevitable descent into pure despotism resisted.

[Hitcher]

One does one's humble best in pursuit of the latter, in both the greater and lesser planes.

Boeings and Cessnas, perhaps?

[Joni]

Difference is NZ is a democaracy, or so they claim.

KB is not, its a privately owned website.

[onearmedbandit]

Ixion, the jig is up mate. You've just outed yourself now, I mean it was all very convincing right up until that last post. Well done, you had me hook line and sinker.

[Mental Trousers]

Difference is NZ is a democaracy, or so they claim.

KB is not, its a privately owned website.
... and in the words of the site owner:


The site is becoming too big to run by myself so I have made Mental-Trousers an Admin of Kiwi Biker. He is free to run the site as he sees fit. I have also given him access to the server and the accounts need to run this site so if the SUVs finally get me, there will be someone still here to run the site.

[skelstar]

So you're... like... Raúl Castro then?

<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Ra%C3%BAl_Catsro.JPG/373px-Ra%C3%BAl_Catsro.JPG">

[Mental Trousers]

So you're... like... Raúl Castro then?
More like a cross between him and Dennis Leary.

.... more Dennis Leary that Castro actually ....

[idb]

...............
And, as a general principle, I hold it behoven upon all people to question and resist those who seek to impose new rules. Most particularly when such rules are imposed arbitrarily by an elite or ruling class. Indeed, the less representative the society, the more important the duty of questioning becomes, since only thus is the inevitable descent into pure despotism resisted.

Totally agree with you Ixion...unless I happen to agree with them of course.

[Virago]

.... more Dennis Leary that Castro actually ....

An asshole and proud of it, huh...?:done:

[Finn]

When I gain 100% ownership of KB, there will be no more fighting.

[bugjuice]

Hey, here is a newsflash! If you don't like it, vote with your feet.
tthviosda iojuedas bsweqhjasYT B,mnyh fgderwewrrtyr ty[op[rew lk;ikerw,./

(went back and bolded what I was trying to say)

so you can see by my demonstration, it's not always as easy as people make it out to be. And this place would be an utter mess. I call for a feet forum, for the people who may want to use their feet.

I rest my case.

[Waylander]

A lot of people have problems doing something as simple as that
So you explect them to be able to remember to post under this new forum remembering all those rules MT listed?


I can issue an infraction to myself for abuse of a site member .... at least I think I can ....

EDIT I had a good fiddle around and the only way to issue an infraction to me or is to get messy with SQL and I can't be bothered.



The point is that the thread title doesn't show up in the New Posts etc and the " " pic won't be showing up on screen at an unfortunate time - unless you want them to. Most people viewing kb from work do so during their breaks, something that is fine with the companies they work for. What isn't fine is having a pic that says " " etc on the screen.

I got no problem with that post. Words on a screen don't bother me so much now so, meh.

As for everything else, I guess it's your sandbox now and I imagine some of it will be inserting itself in your when folks don't always stick to the letter of your law.


The answer to that is the same as that to those who make the same demand of Kiwis who object to the doings of the government of our other Dear Leader, Frau Helen. "My country right or wrong - if right, to be kept right, if wrong, to be set right".

One does one's humble best in pursuit of the latter, in both the greater and lesser planes.

And, as a general principle, I hold it behoven upon all people to question and resist those who seek to impose new rules. Most particularly when such rules are imposed arbitrarily by an elite or ruling class. Indeed, the less representative the society, the more important the duty of questioning becomes, since only thus is the inevitable descent into pure despotism resisted.
Could have used more words starting with V.
<img src=http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1152342/photo_02_hires.jpg>

[Skunk]

I hold it behoven upon all people to question and resist those who seek to impose new rules. Most particularly when such rules are imposed arbitrarily by an elite or ruling class. Indeed, the less representative the society, the more important the duty of questioning becomes, since only thus is the inevitable descent into pure despotism resisted.The site is privately owned.

Did you pay for the Domain name?
Did you pay for the software?
Did you spend hours setting everything and configuring it?
Did you sort out the hosting and pay for that?
Did you spent money upgrading the software every year or so?

Guess that means the owner (or his appointed helper) can do whatever the heck they please.

We are just (non paying mostly) guests. House rules apply. Everyone should stop whining or piss off.

[Kickaha]

Everyone should stop whining or piss off.

If only they would

[RiderInBlack]

Please tell me how that image was relevant to this thread.OK but remember ya asked:calm:
It was part of the question Weaver ask pertaining to ya rules re: the new L.O.A. forum. the question would not have made sense without the pics. Was a bit tongue in cheek, but none the less a relevant question and done without posting nude pics that would have seen him infracted by the new rules. But you knew that surely<_<

Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Originally Posted by Mental-Trousers http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/images/dark_vb/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1400910#post1400910)

Images that contain the following will be removed and the person who posted them will receive an infraction:
no visible genitalia
no spread legs shots

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

So the first picture is alright, but the second one isn't?

[Mental Trousers]

OK but remember ya asked:calm:
It was part of the question Weaver ask pertaining to ya rules re: the new L.O.A. forum. the question would not have made sense without the pics. Was a bit tongue in cheek, but none the less a relevant question and done without posting nude pics that would have seen him infracted by the new rules. But you knew that surely<_<

Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Originally Posted by Mental-Trousers http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/images/dark_vb/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1400910#post1400910)

Images that contain the following will be removed and the person who posted them will receive an infraction:
no visible genitalia
no spread legs shots

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
I didn't actually read half the posts that got pulled out of the thread lol. So now it's explained ....

[SixPackBack]

Likewise MT the two images I posted stood as an example to Bugjuice [who asked a question] how far we could go.......for my effort I received a warning and infraction??

[Gubb]

...Possibly, but in order to do that, you posted nude pics outside of the new forum, and didn't mark them to be censored.

[SixPackBack]

...Possibly, but in order to do that, you posted nude pics outside of the new forum, and didn't mark them to be censored.

This takes care of that issue
<TABLE cellSpacing=3 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Do you wish to censor avatars & attachment thumbnails containing nudity?
When members upload avatars & images, they are asked to specify if it contains nudity. These avatars are not displayed with this option turned on.</TD></TR><TR><TD><LABEL for=rb_cpf_field9_1><INPUT id=rb_cpf_field9_1 type=radio value=1 name=userfield[field9]>Yes</LABEL> <LABEL for=rb_cpf_field9_2><INPUT id=rb_cpf_field9_2 type=radio CHECKED value=2 name=userfield[field9]>No</LABEL> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[MSTRS]

Not sure that anyone has brought up the instance of a (crude?) piccy being posted as a relevant reply to a post in any thread/forum. Often done as a form of humour, the pic being worth a thousand words. Is this now a no-no?

[Usarka]

[FONT=Comic Sans MS]When members upload avatars & images, they are asked to specify if it contains nudity. These avatars are not displayed with this option turned on

So we'll now have people infracted for not following the rule that was introduced because people weren't following the original rule? :wacko:

[avgas]

haha controlling porn on the internet.
good luck with that

[Joni]

haha controlling porn on the internet.
good luck with thatNot really mate... its controlling porn on a biker site only....

[WRT]

tthviosda iojuedas bsweqhjasYT B,mnyh fgderwewrrtyr ty[op[rew lk;ikerw,./

Didn't know you speak Welsh?

[MSTRS]

Didn't know you speak Welsh?

Neither do you. That was obviously Greek. Or greek, as the case may be...

[WRT]

Neither do you. That was obviously Greek. Or greek, as the case may be...

Not so - if that was greek (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=greek), it would have to be posted in a different forum.

[MSTRS]

infraction coming?

[avgas]

Not really mate... its controlling porn on a biker site only....
My bad - so we can still talk about beer or is that off limits too.
Sad to say it but it is sounding a bit metro biker

[marty]

I got infracted (twice) for posting britney getting out of the car (twice - even though i ticked the 'box' the second time), however she had not exposed her genitals, only her shaven schmoo :)


genitals (jěn'ĭ-tlz) Pronunciation Key
The organs of reproduction in animals, especially the external sex organs