Mrs Oakie's bike thief is off to jail.

[Oakie]

Well the wheels of justice move slowly but they do move. Finally, last Thursday, a young fella by the name of Joshua Stewart was sentenced to an additional months jail (on top of the 3 he has already spent there on remand) for his part in the theft of Mrs Oakie's EL250 back in September last year. Not much to say about that except that the cops did a good job and that there is some satisfaction at the outcome. His was the easy one. He fronted up and pled guilty .
His 'alledged' accomplice is maintaining his innocence. He appears on 20 March for a hearing which should be interesting as the Police have a pretty good case against him. Mrs Oakie has been summoned to appear and I'll attend as a spectator.

[Tank]

congratulations!!!

sounds like a good result - I hope that the other git gets some time also.

[JimO]

so he will be out in two weeks then??

[crashe]

That is great news......

Good luck for Mrs Oakie and yourself with the next court session.

[HenryDorsetCase]

one of my staff was telling me today that you have to go thru a metal detector, and a bag scanner to get into Court these days ...... so if you are planning on any direct action against the party who is innocent until proven guilty you'll need one of those ceramic guns the CIA have, or glass knives. ;)

[Pex Adams]

I'm interested to know, what happened to the bike?
Also if its gone - has it been replaced by this jerks family, or have they (MOJ) sold all his possessions to replace it?

[Oakie]

one of my staff was telling me today that you have to go thru a metal detector, and a bag scanner to get into Court these days ...... so if you are planning on any direct action against the party who is innocent until proven guilty you'll need one of those ceramic guns the CIA have, or glass knives. ;)

I think with the case the police have against this guy, direct action won't be necessary although I guess OJ Simpson got off so anything is possible.

[Oakie]

I'm interested to know, what happened to the bike?
Also if its gone - has it been replaced by this jerks family, or have they (MOJ) sold all his possessions to replace it?

The frame of the bike (all that was found) has been handed back to the insurance company. The insurance company are seeking reparation for what our claim cost them and the police have put in a claim for reparation on our behalf for what it cost us over and abouve what insurance paid us. The guy already had outstanding fines which he couldn't pay so we're not holding our breath for any money.

Funnily enough though it's not worked out too bad as she has a better bike than before (CB250FM ... aka 'Jade') which we got for a very good price so having the bike flogged, while traumatic, probably saved us money in the long run because the insurance settlement was probably about $1400 more than we would have got for a trade in on the bike sometime this year.

[MSTRS]

I'm interested to know, what happened to the bike?
Also if its gone - has it been replaced by this jerks family, or have they (MOJ) sold all his possessions to replace it?

Glad to see a (partial) result Oakie. Not enough for the loss of security/peace of mind that you guys were put through.
As to Pex - All that was found was the stripped frame, insurance did it's thing so I doubt reparation was ordered. Or forthcoming.
Edit- Oops, I see Ins co is seeking rep. Good luck with that.

[martybabe]

Well the wheels of justice move slowly but they do move. Finally, last Thursday, a young fella by the name of Joshua Stewart was sentenced to an additional months jail (on top of the 3 he has already spent there on remand) for his part in the theft of Mrs Oakie's EL250 back in September last year. Not much to say about that except that the cops did a good job and that there is some satisfaction at the outcome. His was the easy one. He fronted up and pled guilty .
His 'alleged' accomplice is maintaining his innocence. He appears on 20 March for a hearing which should be interesting as the Police have a pretty good case against him. Mrs Oakie has been summoned to appear and I'll attend as a spectator.


Them b'stards.Commiserations on your loss and congratulations on your new bike. Toooo much scumduggery in this world. :niceone:

[Drum]

Nobody messes with the ELIMINATOR :ar15:

[ManDownUnder]

What time's the hearing on the 20th. I might be in town for it and it'd be fun to tell the judge Mrs Oakie was so distraught that friends have flown in from all over the country.

Might add some weight to the little snot getting more of what he so obviously deserves...

[u4ea]

Some good news at long last! Well done coppers and lets see how the other weasel fares in front of the judge.

[SDU]

Great that some justice is happening - long time coming still but at least he got to see inside the walls, good news hope the little punk learns something.


Justice has a weird way of looking at things cause I have to admit It blows me away that he gets prison & the jerk that killed Brendon got 3mths home detention.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=55109

[Pex Adams]

The guy already had outstanding fines which he couldn't pay so we're not holding our breath for any money.


It makes you think - here's a kid who has been brought up to have anything and everything, without taking any responsibility for his actions, until his day comes in court... FINES - What are they really teaching people?!


Oops, I see Ins co is seeking rep. Good luck with that.

Good Luck in this kid seeking to amend the wrongs he's done in the past (not just to Mrs Oakie).
If I was a judge, I'd make him spend the next 2 years chained to the back of the misses new Jade. While she drags him around the port hills trying to get her knee down:shit:!!
Lets see how he finds having someone inflict some pain on him. I mean these fines and jail terms, are they really going to do anything for anyone that gets a personal pleasure out of showing their stupidity and arrogance for the law. :shutup:

[oldrider]

The Police have done a good job, will the Justice and corrections follow the trend or will they let the cops down again, like they usually do!

Nice one anyway Oakie. :2thumbsup John.

[Oakie]

What time's the hearing on the 20th. I might be in town for it and it'd be fun to tell the judge Mrs Oakie was so distraught that friends have flown in from all over the country.

Might add some weight to the little snot getting more of what he so obviously deserves...

Thanks for that. Start time is 10.15am but I think that's just the start time for the morning list of hearings. Might not get called for some time after that. With a bit of luck he'll change his plea before that anyway so it'll then just be a sentencing hearing.

[ManDownUnder]

Thanks for that. Start time is 10.15am but I think that's just the start time for the morning list of hearings. Might not get called for some time after that. With a bit of luck he'll change his plea before that anyway so it'll then just be a sentencing hearing.

All good mate. I'm keen on justice being served and if I can help convince the (truly apathetic) NZ justice system to dish out more of it then I'm in!

[phoenixgtr]

Nice one. Sounds like you're finally getting some resolve!!

[heyjoe]

Good to hear they have been caught and that one has done the correct thing and getting on with his consequences. Pity about the other one causing more money to be spent on him. Good luck to the prosecuters on the day on 20 March.

[Oakie]

Final wash-up on this subject. We found out yesterday from the police that the second guy (a certain Mr Trevor Munro) got 200 hours community service and was ordered to make restitution to the insurance company of $4300. Apparantly he has already paid this.

Ok, movin on now ....

Oh, incidentally, because Mrs Oakie frets a little now whenever her bike is all alone, I entered a competition in last months Bike Rider Magazine for a 'Grip Lock' security device and won one for her. Nice! :niceone: . I wasn't the only KBer to win one either. A certain Otematata resident also got lucky..

[Nagash]

Hmm.. I have a mate called Josh Stewert (what an overly common name) and something like that is right his alley..

I'll have to call him some time and see if it was him...

[JMemonic]

Good news sort of, unfortunately the punishment aspect of our restorative justice system is minimal, no real incentive for some to behave really.

I could suggest what I believe our system should do but really what's the point no one would listen or those that do have little or no influence.

[geoffm]

So the first guy gets some porridge, while the second guy pleads not guilty, and gets 200 hours community service (whcih he probalby won't do) and pays some money. I assuem you dont' get to see any of it for the worry.

And what is it with fines that these toerags won't pay. Surely the judges know they won'e pay so why bother? If they must give them fines, make it 7 days to pay or jail (solitary and hard labour) for a goodly period. Fining them, when they have outstanding fines already must be a waste of time.

[alanzs]

Funnily enough though it's not worked out too bad as she has a better bike than before (CB250FM ... aka 'Jade') which we got for a very good price so having the bike flogged, while traumatic, probably saved us money in the long run because the insurance settlement was probably about $1400 more than we would have got for a trade in on the bike sometime this year.

A few years ago, I was run over by a car while on my Valkyrie. The bike was totaled. The only good part was I ended up getting more from the insurance company than I paid for it. That was a first, actually making money off of a bike.
Hope the little thief meets some nice people in jail! :bash:

[Bren]

Hope the little thief meets some nice people in jail! :bash:

I am sure he will, it will also be a good training ground. he will pick up some "tricks of the trade" and maybe next time will get away with it. He is probably on the path to become a career criminal, which in turn will cost us all in taxpayers money, insurance etc. Fucking bastard should be let loose in a room with a group of bikers and baseball bats, then we will see if he wants to pinch a bike again!

[Patrick]

except that the cops did a good job

Help... I'm lost... I thought I was on KB.... Where am I?????????????????:Pokey:

Good on ya Oakie and it sounds like Mrs Oakie got a good deal from the insurance company. She shouldn't have to pay anything... any excess can be recovered by the insurance company too from the sack o shite at $5 per week from his benefit (deducted before he gets it) for the next 15 years.... There is a named wrongdoer and they shuold recover all insurance losses from him, not you...