What to buy - SV1000SK7 or GSXR600K7

[forkoil]

I am thinking of upgrading from my trusty SV650, mainly after having to ride the wheels of it to stay with the group on the Northern Exposure Tour last weekend, a brilliant trip but thats another story. So took a trip into Holeshot today to see what they had on offer in the end of the Suz SummerFest (or whatever).

Basically I am divided.
GSXR600
I took the GSXR for a test ride, first GSXR I've ridden and was very very impressed. The handling and roadholding and power was in a diff dimension to what I've ridden before. In partic the handling, now I've done the front end mods to my SV (springs, emulators) which improved it 1000%, but the GSXR was another level above that, rock steady in corners. What I didnt like was the incredibly loud f*cken noise it makes. There maybe room to squeeze a deal from Holeshots on an aftermarket zorst, so would like opinions on that. Also anything else most GSXR600 need straight away.

SV1000S
I've ridden one before and they are a gruntier, faster version of what I've got with the suspension OK from the outset. What I like about them is the easy loping unstrained way they deliver power and of course the price ($12.5K) with yoshi slip ons provided. Handling is great but not in the GSXR's class.

I like long weekend rides but mainly like the twisties. Will do the odd track day. I already have the Oxford Humpback throwover panniers and tank bag.

Price wise the GSXR is $1500 more than the SV, and if I get the zorst changed will be bit more than that. The GSXR is a run out model, the K8's due in April and they will be quite an upgrade I'm told. For this reason the K7 is on at $14K which is about a $2K discount on full retail.

So what do you think?

[onearmedbandit]

Track days? Riding the twisties? GSXR600 no question.

[Grahameeboy]

Track days? Riding the twisties? GSXR600 no question.

SV is more fun, has lots of engine braking for twisties so less tiring and with the right suspension set up...mine is getting close.....

How many track days v road rides I guess is one questions.

[onearmedbandit]

Different opinion to other SV owners I know. In fact one has bought a RGV250 to use on the track and blasting the twisties. The SV (despite the mod's he has done) is reserved for more slower paced rides. And fun is subjective.

To be honest, if someone told me they were looking for a great bike through the twisties and for the odd track day, no disrespect to your choice of ride GB, but an SV1000 would not be on my list of options for them.

[FzerozeroT]

You think the SV1000 handles OK? you must have ridden a good one!

I'm on track to give the forks and shock a working over which I'm hoping will improve it a bit but basically the geometry is a sport-tourer and you need to accept the good and bad that come with it.

If you're worried about keeping up with other people on rides then get an IL4 1000

[Fatjim]

1. the gsxr's are not at runout pricing. The 750 is a grand cheaper than the thou, there's no way thats runout pricing. Suzies are always cheaper than the rest, especially Yamaha's. The exchange rate is driving the prices down, and I bet the distributor is still making a packet on 78cents.
2. My 07 svthou stock suspension is shit. Sully rides his sv650 much harder than I can ride my thou. I have to use the power of the thou just to keep him in sight.
3. If you like twisties, and you want a bargain, look at the 900 hornet. Yes I know it looks like a bit of a nana's bike, but with motocross bars they are a hoot, and will go the distance as a tourer as well. And you won't have that Suzuki reliability to worry about. 11k list, with I bet more room for the dealer to discount than a suzuki. (they'll be running them out soon as the cb1000R is due).

[jrandom]

Jeez, if you're worried about keeping up with people on rides, get a B-King!

But if you can't afford a B-King, just buy the...

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GIXXAAAAAA!

[forkoil]

Cant see any pattern emerging... should have guessed it all comes down to personal opinion. Surprised to hear that the SVthou suspension sux, know the 650 does, but as I said I fixed that. The svthou front at least has damping control as well as the preload, and there is damping adj on the shock too (I think). But the GSXR susp is just great from the showroom floor. I guess its towards that I am leaning..... Its the one thing that makes the most diff to ride confidence and pleasure, much more outright power does. And if u have to f*ck around with getting it right and building a relationship with Robert Taylor from New Plymouth to get there, its alot of hassle.

[dipshit]

but basically the geometry is a sport-tourer and you need to accept the good and bad that come with it.


Then change the geometry.

I have quickened/lightened the steering on my SV. Yes, stock they feel a bit ponderous and unwilling to change direction quickly... but that is an easy fix. And with all the other adjustability on the suspension you can get things very close providing you are in the weight range of the standard spring rate.

Granted I haven't ridden a late model GSX-R, but boy does my SV handled way better than all the 80's GSX-R, FZ, GPZ, RZ's I have owned.!

[jrandom]

Granted I haven't ridden a late model GSX-R...

:laugh:

STFU, then.


... boy does my SV handled way better than all the 80's GSX-R, FZ, GPZ, RZ's I have owned.!

Wow, that there's some good handlin', pardner!

[jrandom]

Cant see any pattern emerging...

I can.

Nobody who's already bought an SV wants to admit that they aren't hardcore sprotbikes.

Everyone else says get the gixxer.

2 + 2 = ?

:niceone:

[dipshit]

:laugh:

STFU, then.



But my point is that the handling of a SV doesn't "suck". It's all relative.

And you should ask a friend of mine on a 998 with Öhlins and everything why he has a very hard time keeping up in the tight twisty stuff? A "lowly" SV can't be that shit then?

[jrandom]

But my point is that the handling of a SV doesn't "suck". It's all relative.

Surely nobody's trying to say it 'sucks'. I don't think anyone who's seen Glen Williams on a racetrack could keep a straight face while claiming that SVs suck (although he will of course be running upgraded suspension).


And you should ask a friend of mine on a 998 with Öhlins and everything why he has a very hard time keeping up in the tight twisty stuff?

998 ownership does not imply ability to ride a motorcycle. Nice umlauts, by the way.

:buggerd:

A mate of mine on an '07 R1 couldn't get past me on Betty the GSX1400 along Old Taupo Road last weekend. Doesn't mean I'd recommend a GSX1400 to anyone wanting a performance-focused bike.

When it comes to SVs, I've always thought the naked SV1000 was a very nice bike. Entirely depends on one's budget and what kind of riding one wants to do, as well as the very important consideration of how comfortable one is on the bike (the reason I'm on a GSX1400 instead of a GSX-R).

I think the general point here is, if forkoil's comfy on the gixxer 6 and can afford one, he'll find it a more capable bike for sprots-style riding than the SV.

[dipshit]

The svthou front at least has damping control as well as the preload, and there is damping adj on the shock too (I think).


Yes they have preload, rebound and compression damping adjustability at both ends.



But the GSXR susp is just great from the showroom floor. I guess its towards that I am leaning..... Its the one thing that makes the most diff to ride confidence and pleasure, much more outright power does.

Never mind what a bunch of geeks and nerds on a internet forum think... choose whatever bike turns you on the most and you will think you will have the most fun and satisfaction riding!




And if u have to f*ck around with getting it right and building a relationship with Robert Taylor from New Plymouth to get there, its alot of hassle.

There should be no need to spend a single cent getting a SV set up nice if you know what you are doing. (providing you're not some anorexic or fat overweight slob and you *need* to change the spring rate)

[White trash]

Yes they have preload, rebound and compression damping adjustability at both ends.



Never mind what a bunch of geeks and nerds on a internet forum think... choose whatever bike turns you on the most and you will think you will have the most fun and satisfaction riding!





There should be no need to spend a single cent getting a SV set up nice if you know what you are doing. (providing you're not some anorexic or fat overweight slob and you *need* to change the spring rate)
And don't forget to factor in which bike will wheelie best away from the lights in Queen St. :Pokey:

[dipshit]

998 ownership does not imply ability to ride a motorcycle.

The guy can ride. I know why he can't keep up in the tight twisty stuff though. He still has his Ducati set up with the adjustable steering head set with longer rake for more stability at the cost of having a heavier slower steering bike. In tight twisty corners when the bikes are hardly ever upright as you are going from one corner to the next, I am able to drop into corners and change direction with much greater ease and drive out hard with glorious big V-twin power that grips and launches you out of a corner no matter where the rpm is at, while still on the exact line I want to take through the next few corners thanks to its nice handling. You can have lots of fun in the twisties on a SV1000 believe it or not. It may not be the fastest or the best, but it is fun and rewarding.



Nice umlauts, by the way.

Alt 0214 = Ö




I think the general point here is, if forkoil's comfy on the gixxer 6 and can afford one, he'll find it a more capable bike for sprots-style riding than the SV.

He knows the GSX-R is a better handling bike. No argument there. The question is what will *he* have *more fun riding*?

[onearmedbandit]

Never mind what a bunch of geeks and nerds on a internet forum think... choose whatever bike turns you on the most and you will think you will have the most fun and satisfaction riding!




I don't believe your story about the 998, because I find it hard to believe you have friends. Get over yourself.

[jrandom]

The question is what will *he* have *more fun riding*?

How are we supposed to know the answer to that?

The only comment that can be sensibly made in response to the OP is that the gixxer will inevitably go better than the SV.

Everything else is subjective.

:zzzz:

[Drew]

Cool, another pissing contest thread, offering no help what so ever to the cat starting the thread.

Saying a bike handles great cos you can beat a 998 is fuckin dumb, my Hornet handles pretty bad, yet I have passed gsxr 1000s, should Honda start promoting it as the GIXXER eater?

Telling the guy it needs to be set up right to get the best out of it is sound advice, but it will still have short falls because of the quality of what's being adjusted.

Ride 'em both, decide what suits you best. My input is to ride the SV more than once, I know people that have baught them and regretted it later.

[jrandom]

Cool, another pissing contest thread...

Yeah.

Apparently dipshit can't hit the ceiling with his stream, but it doesn't matter, because that has nothing to do with 'real' pissing, and is only attempted by men with small penises who are trying to prove something.

:lol:

[forkoil]

Hmmm, thanks for the input everyone. Just got in from the Sun morn ride to Helensville coffee and back and read the thread. Its not an easy decision I guess and as you say dipshit it comes down to personal prefernce.

I havent ridden the SV1000 for a while so will do that and see how it is, of course as you say the susp needs setting up, and from showroom floor will not nec be very good. It was noticeable tho that the Gixxer felt amazing straight out, which prob says its going to be ultimately better no matter what refinements are made on the SV. But the SV I think is nicer and more comfortable on a long trip cos of the power characteristics, and also if I take a pillion reckon the Gixxer is a no no.

Hmmm, difficult. Never get a new gixxer at a better price maybe, and maybe everyone should sample a true sports bike before you hang your balls up for good? But but.... hmmmm

[Pussy]

Hmmm, difficult. Never get a new gixxer at a better price maybe,

Suzuki are always coming up with some special summer deal, best not to buy the latest of their models, they always sell them for a premium at first, then drop the arse out of the price. There WILL be good deals on them in the future. Agree with you regarding pillions, the gixxer won't be the most practical bet there.....

[forkoil]

Agree with you regarding pillions, the gixxer won't be the most practical bet there.....
I dont take a pillion now, just thinking possibilities.

[Hinny]

...having to ride the wheels of it to stay with the group
Isn't that the fun of riding? .... and wasn't the hardest part trying to catch up to the group that was actually behind you?

Love the photo at the Lighthouse.

[dipshit]

The SV1000s suspension is fine, although there is about 2 clicks between weird tip in and great handling on it,

Hell yes. Thats why the manual tells you to adjust things 1/8 of a turn at a time. Even 1/8 of a turn makes a noticeable difference.

[Hinny]

How about a Yamaha R1 or an Honda CBRR or a Blackbird.If you want a Suzy how about the best... get a Busa. You would be able to keep with the bunch on one of those. I decided on a ST1100 because you can ride them all day and the 500km range has got to be good.The narrow tyres go well on the metal too.

[dipshit]

How are we supposed to know the answer to that?

We can't of course. That's why I said.... "Never mind what a bunch of geeks and nerds on a internet forum think... choose whatever bike turns you on the most and you will think you will have the most fun and satisfaction riding"

Who would want to buy a bike on a majority vote from other people anyhow?

[dipshit]

Telling the guy it needs to be set up right to get the best out of it is sound advice, but it will still have short falls because of the quality of what's being adjusted.


Oh my! How could a bike without upside down forks possibly be any good!

[Sollyboy]

Get the gsxr1000 k7 , then you can just switch modes depending on your mood/weather/skill level/road surface , its like 3 bikes in one.

[FzerozeroT]

I could blow away my mate on his R1 round any windy road, yet i do 1:07's and he does 1:03's at Puke, all relative to how much you are worried about throwing it down the road.

Get the best of both worlds and get a Street Triple, $12k, torque and handling

[Usarka]

Never mind what a bunch of geeks and nerds on a internet forum think


Alt 0214 = Ö




Bahahahahahahaaaaaaa, pot!

[forkoil]

Isn't that the fun of riding? .... and wasn't the hardest part trying to catch up to the group that was actually behind you?
Keith,
Some truth in that.... but the Gixxer really does handle primo. And yeah, was v difficult catching the riders behind us!! :doh:

[Drew]

Oh my! How could a bike without upside down forks possibly be any good!

Did I say anything about what end the forks had top and bottom?


You sir are a tool.


If you would like to be made to feel dumb about suspension, talk to anyone qualified in the field about how much worse the internals on an SV are compared to a GIXXER, and argue that the SV can be set up to be as good.

[discotex]

I started my test riding with the same question in mind... $12.5k for SV thou (with Yoshis) or $14k for gixxer 6. Am surprised either of them are still available at the summerfest prices.

After riding a heap of bikes I ended up with an '08 CBR600RR for just a tad more.

I'd highly recommend you ride an 07-08 CBR just to have something to compare with. IMO it puts the 06-07 gixxer to shame power, handling and looks wise. I still think the SV is the best value for money though.

Can't wait to test ride an 08 gixxer 6 to see if Suzi manage to up the ante.

[Fatjim]

Did I say anything about what end the forks had top and bottom?


You sir are a tool.


If you would like to be made to feel dumb about suspension, talk to anyone qualified in the field about how much worse the internals on an SV are compared to a GIXXER, and argue that the SV can be set up to be as good.
Mate, I think he was joking.

[jrandom]

I could blow away my mate on his R1 round any windy road, yet i do 1:07's and he does 1:03's at Puke, all relative to how much you are worried about throwing it down the road.

I'd say four seconds faster at Puke would have a lot more to do with 150hp versus 120.


Get the best of both worlds and get a Street Triple, $12k, torque and handling

Where you planning on finding a Street Triple for $12K? Last time I checked, the best deal you could get on one was $15K.

[SVboy]

I have had all three-the sv650sk5-sv1000k6 and currently the gixxa 6 k7. Comparing chalk and cheese. I LOVE the gixxa. I found the 1000 a bit 'ponderous' and harder to ride than the 600[my experience]. Gixxer is much 'friendlier', with better handling and more comfort!! than the svs. gixxer lacks the torque and is harder to keep in its power band. Bike choice is subjective, but I cant fault 14k for a bike such as the 600. I would have thought any after market exaust will add noise? Test ride-good luck!

[dipshit]

If you would like to be made to feel dumb about suspension, talk to anyone qualified in the field about how much worse the internals on an SV are compared to a GIXXER, and argue that the SV can be set up to be as good.


Well here's the opinion of one person qualified in the field....

"The cartridge internals appear to be of pretty reasonable quality, almost exclusively aluminium and so very light. These SV forks are in reality pretty good items."

"The SV1000’s front end suspension isn’t that bad as I already mentioned."

"The front fork springs of the 2005 SV1000 model are not the same as the ones from the 2003/2004 model!!! Probably Suzuki has done some internal changes to the 2005 model but did not mention it. So the mechanics of Hyperpro were very surprised when it turned out that the springs they had didn’t work!"

"The GSX-R 1000 2005 model front fork is crap. The springs are pretty good but the damping is really bad. One of the mechanics of Hyperpro races in the Dutch Superbike class with this bike and he had to do a complete reshimming of the fork before the damping was correct. So let this be a warning for the people who are thinking of a fork swap. Just because forks are from a GSXR does not automatically mean that the suspension will be better!"


...You sir make the typical assumption that USDF = quality internals while non USDF = crap.

[dipshit]

Mate, I think he was joking.

Well it is funny watching some of these people flip out and have a little hissy-fit for even daring to suggest that a bike with old-style non upside-down forks can be half decent.

Such blasphemy! :eek5:

[onearmedbandit]

Hahahahaha, someone is living up to their screen name again.

[jrandom]

Well it is funny watching some of these people flip out and have a little hissy-fit for even daring to suggest that a bike with old-style non upside-down forks can be half decent.

:angry2:

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[jrandom]

Hahahahaha, someone is living up to their screen name again.

What, I'm being random, and you have one arm?

[dipshit]

Really? I don't see that in his post... that the GSXRs are all USD now just happens to be coincidental.

"but it will still have short falls because of the quality of what's being adjusted."

"talk to anyone qualified in the field about how much worse the internals on an SV are compared to a GIXXER,"

Why do you think he assumes this? Has he pulled apart an 07 SV1000 front end for himself or actually talked to someone that has, or has he just looked down his nose at the RWU forks?

[dipshit]

I found the 1000 a bit 'ponderous'

Me too initially. Although as I said, that was an easy fix that didn't cost a cent and now it is a totally different bike. It is more sports than tourer now.

[jrandom]

It is more sports than tourer now.

It's OK, dipshit. It's OK to admit that it was the SV's dipping sauce holder accessory that swayed you in your purchasing decision.

Those chicken strips get pretty dry and flavourless without condiments, don't they?

:laugh:

[dipshit]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the internals of the 07 SV1000 front forks are indeed pretty sad. In fact, since 05, all of the SV1000 forks have had non removable damper rod thingies, which prevents you from fitting cartridge emulator kits like the AK20s.

There are two main reasons to re-kit your suspension. One is to change the spring rate to suit your weight. The other major reason is to re-valve the internals if the standard ones fail to give you the range of adjustability you require. If neither of these two factors are a problem then there is much less reason to rebuild your suspension.




Yes, I have to admit, I was shocked at how badly I could make the SV1000 handle by clicking the clickers incorrectly, and how well it handled once I had them in the right place. Sure, that took an entire afternoon of fiddle/ride/fiddle, but it sure was worth it :2thumbsup

I am not even talking about suspension tuning, (that took me a couple of months of riding and thinking and homework making one small thing better at a time)... I was talking about majorly changing the geometry altogether.

[onearmedbandit]

What, I'm being random, and you have one arm?

And imdying actually is, and dipshit is an actual dipshit.

[dipshit]

It's OK, dipshit. It's OK to admit that it was the SV's dipping sauce holder accessory that swayed you in your purchasing decision.

You have no idea how gutted I am that it doesn't have a cup holder! :crazy:

[forkoil]

Well ........ thanks for all your useful input and the healthy rivalry (some called it pissing contest?) I made the big decision today .... and .... bought the GIXXA.

I had decided in principle to get a sports bike but then after reading a few other threads decided to look at the competition as well. Test rode a zx6r at Barons (incidently is a near new done 2400 km for 12.5K). The 07 zx6r is same price as GSXR (14K). I didnt like the seating position compared to the suzy, It was too much strain on shoulders and wrists, seat height wrt handlebars I suspect. Apart from that it reved more freely from throttle stop than the suzy which feels boggy below 4 thou. But the Barons test ride circuit, down Gt Nth, Newton, NW mway to zoo, then Gt Nth back sux so bad its a shame really. But I knew I couldnt live with that seat position.
Honda...was close to 18K, 4K more, forget it.
R6.... still about 2.5K more

So took the GSXR for longer ride, mway, Silverdale, Kaukop, Gt Nth thru forest, Riverhead, Albany home and after I got more used to it ... well ... fell in love really, head over heels. :Punk: Slipper clutch, brakes, power, cornering feel and tightness. The suspension was a little hard for me but found it wants to corner in a smooth power on radius, rather than the sharp counter steer turn and throttle nail technique of the SV. It LOVES corners, but u have to keep power on to get that sure footed feeling.
Bought the Micron muffler (at good price) and K&N filter on advice. Apparently quite a weight saving in the Micron, and well I was in the mood. Now I have to get a new helmet so I can see properly with the tucked down ride position :doh:

Anyway thanks for the advice, well I always was a Suzuki lover at heart

[Pussy]

Congratulations on the new bike. You'll love it. I've enjoyed the few punts I've had on the six hundy

[Pex Adams]

Just like Mark Richardson - I know all there is to need to know about giving opinion's on SVthou Vs Gixxer600's. As I've been fortunate enough to have owned both.

So people listen closely to what I have to say - It's all about your priorities. If the Misses didn't like travelling on the back of the bike so much, I'd have the Gixxer in a HEARTBEAT! Its a toy, that makes you glad that god gave us the Takaka Hill:drool::drool::drool:
The SV is a all about making a ride as easy is possible, with good power. The suspension does SUCK! It sucks more than a vacuum cleaner been tuned up by Tim 'The Toolman'!
Nonetheless - As for my daily commuting of 100km a day (85% of my riding). The misses enjoying the ride - the SV won the battle between the 2.

As for the Pissing contest - Drew couldn't have said it better 'Get a Tuono!'

[SVboy]

My work here is done!! You wont regret your choice!!

[Hinny]

Congrats. on the new purchase. Where to for playtime?

[rocketman1]

Mate,
Its all about what your into and I think in your case you made the correct choice, a GSXR600 is a damn fine bike and possibly more race bred than a SV1000.
For racing and hard riding, if thats what your into, go for it. but I feel that you won't really be happy till you have a GSXR1000...

BUT for a grunty, V twin with heaps of character, sound and great all round enjoyment, for $12-13K you get fuel injected, six speed, fully adjustable suspension,reasonably light weight at 185kg, with heaps of torque, great engine braking, it is hard to go past a SV1000 for money for value, spend any spare cash on suspension improvements & you will have a first class bike.

V-twin riders always seems to have smile on their faces after a ride.
Why is that ??

[Usarka]

V-twin riders always seems to have smile on their faces after a ride.
Why is that ??

they are retarded?

[flame]

V-twin riders always seems to have smile on their faces after a ride.
Why is that ??


not telling!:shutup:

[dipshit]

V-twin riders always seems to have smile on their faces after a ride.
Why is that ??
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:whistle:

Congrats on that wicked new 600!

[forkoil]

V-twin riders always seems to have smile on their faces after a ride.
Why is that ??
Cos they are getting their jollies from the vibration coming thru the seat? :nono:
Sorry, your comments are good, just couldnt resist... haha

[forkoil]

Congrats. on the new purchase. Where to for playtime?
Dont pick it up til Friday .... 3 sleeps. Dunno about next weekend, prob just local, scrub in tyres and get used to it a bit, following weekend down to the Paeroa Street races .... u going?

[onearmedbandit]

Congrats on the new bike. Only you know if you made the right decision, and from what you've written it sounds like you did.

And yeah I guess you could say the GSXR600 is possibly more race breed than the SV1000.

[discotex]

Honda...was close to 18K, 4K more, forget it.


Holy shit. If that's for real I got a mean bargain for mine :woohoo: Might just use that to self-justify the price of a new can hehe.

That gixxer is a hell of a bike mate. Given it's a gixxer I take it a pipe and TRE is on order. They're fuckin loud to begin with tho :devil2:

Looking forward to some pics!

EDIT: HAHA re-read your post and saw you already got the micron coming.

[forkoil]

That gixxer is a hell of a bike mate. Given it's a gixxer I take it a pipe and TRE is on order. They're fuckin loud to begin with tho :devil2:
Tell me about the TRE, what does it do and how much benefit. Its something to do with ignition adv/ret isnt it?

[dipshit]

Tell me about the TRE, what does it do and how much benefit. Its something to do with ignition adv/ret isnt it?

This thread explains things fairly well.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=65252

[Brett]

I fricken love my GSXR600. You will not regret owning one.

[Hinny]

Can't make it to Paeroa. Flat out trying to get free for South Island Sojourn. So little time, so many women...I mean jobs.

[rocketman1]

Quote:
Originally Posted by rocketman1
V-twin riders always seems to have smile on their faces after a ride.
Why is that ??

they are retarded


Na cant be retarded........ they have the best electronic transistorised ignition there is?

[Leong]

Congrats on the new bike. I had a SV650K5, had the fork internals and ohlins shock done with Robert Taylor and it improved a lot. But the standard GSXR is a so much better - a lot to do with weight and weight distribution I think. However, after doing the fork internals on the GSXR it was unbelievably better again. Re the lack of low down grunt - after doing the air filter and slip on exhaust, putting in a power commander and custom map made a significant improvement.

And re Discotex's comment about the 07/08 CBR600RR - there's no doubt it's a better handling and more powerful bike, but in standard form it lacks the excitement of the GSXR in the sound and power delivery. Maybe I am also a SUZUKI fan at heart!!

[forkoil]

Picked up the bike today, after barely containing excitement for the day. Had a good chat to the head mechanic at Holeshot about TRE's, PC's exhausts etc. His opinion was that the PC and TRE wouldnt make any noticeable difference. He reckons that the bike in current form (micron exhaust and K&N filter) would be damn near optimum and to just ride ride ride and play with suspension little by little.
Ride: went out the usual Dairay Flat, Kaukop, Peak/Old Nth Rds, Deacon, Riverhead, Albany home. Instructions not to exceed 8k rpm and vary engine revs, loads etc as much as possible, in other words no constant motorway drone. The bike was fantastic. Even 8k rpm gives a good power delivery when quickly changing up thru the gears. Was ginger with the tyres. Noticed once home that the rear (180) was pretty much no chicken strips, but front was still a long way to go. They are the standard BridgeStone BT14's. Think front may be higher profile. The micron pipe is FUCKEN LOUD!! Actually a bit annoyingly so. I stopped part way thru ride to put my silicone ear plugs in, and later stopped to try and jam them in some more!!. I kept thinking this is gonna piss the locals off!! :bash:
The power does come on cleaner and earlier than the demo bike with standard pipe/air filter so glad about that...So now have to rack up the miles so I can use the motor fully. Going on a ride up 16, Mangawhai, Waipu, back over Brynderwyns.... is there a road coming off the Mangaturoto Rd which goes down towards Helensville, Wellsford or Warkworth? Anyone wanna come leaving Sat afternoon, PM me if so.
Ken

[discotex]

And re Discotex's comment about the 07/08 CBR600RR - there's no doubt it's a better handling and more powerful bike, but in standard form it lacks the excitement of the GSXR in the sound and power delivery. Maybe I am also a SUZUKI fan at heart!!

Yeah you got the sound bit right. The gixxer stock exhaust pumps out something like 100db at whatever the test RPM is. I think the CBR and ZX-6R is something like 90db.

That's a shitload of quietness coming out of the CBR and ZX-6R. Gets louder when the exhaust valve opens but still not as loud as the gix and R6 with their side pipes.

A slipon (can't really afford full system) is probably going on the CBR later this year to rectify that. Heard a full Akra system on Youtube that sounds like canned sex so watch this space.

Power delivery is a bit more linear and you do get less of a surprise as the power is building earlier. I'm considering dropping a tooth at the front which would liven things up significantly :yes:

[discotex]

Picked up the bike today, after barely containing excitement for the day.
Ken

How awesome is it riding off on your spanking new sex machine! :love:

What colour did you end up with?

PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS

[forkoil]

At last some pics. Put as many kms as was able over weekend, taking into account shite weather Sun most of day. Couple trips up 16 and one to Mangawhai, Waipu Cove etc. Now have 580 kms, 420 to put on before Thu when I have 1000 km service.
Verdict....Fucken brilliant, but I am glad I have had so many ill handling bikes before the Gsxr, cos this bike is sooo sure footed and solid in corners, bumps ripples hardly noticed, breaking, throwing side to side no problems. But if I do something stupid, the bike will forgive most, but not all, and if I came from a 250, I would be stuffed at that point cos when it does twitch or play up, you are going so close to the margin there is f** all time to correct, and learners would be in the proverbial. In other words, the bar is so high on these bikes that you really have to know what u are doing to master them, and whats the point otherwise. Yeah years on crappier bikes and off road etc its time to reap the rewards...
The engine even at a run in max of 8k revs, is awesome. I can see why some would want the 1000, but I'm happy with what I got. Power punching out of corners is fierce, must be even more so on the thou. No chicken strips on back tyre at such a low km is testament to the bikes capabilities..... I'm in love again. Anyways...pics, isnt she lovely...sex on wheels

[Pumba]

Pics??? What Pics????:confused:

[forkoil]

I had to shrink the jpgs a bit to be under the server limit :-(

[forkoil]

Pics??? What Pics????:confused:
Hep Carl, your pretty ferkin quick off the mark son. You going to Paeroa?

[nodrog]

If you're worried about keeping up with other people on rides then get an IL4 1000

like this one :yes:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=66611

[Pumba]

Looking good mate, I really do like the blue and black. Now if it were my bike I would be tidying up that arse end asap, goodbye rear fender and if you aint worrying about pillions goodbye rear peg hangers.:2thumbsup


Hep Carl, your pretty ferkin quick off the mark son. You going to Paeroa?

No I wont be going to Paeroa, need to get some work done on the bucket for the following weekend.

(but if the weather is good and the mood takes me I ay change my mind)

[SVboy]

Nice pikkies-same colour as mine! obviously you are a rider of taste. How are you liking the bridgestones bt 014s? I like em-but I am as slow as your granny!!

[eddy lee]

hey guys iv been rideing an sv1000 naked for 2years now..and i havnt done much to it but good tyres &services every 2months and i love my sv,its fun! and wen im on rides with different riders i always seem to keep up if i know the roads,on the staights i may fall back 200meters but wen it comes to corners im always up their rear! yeah.iv heard alot of down talk on the sv,but i truely belive in this phrase(it all comes down to the rider!! master your bike and you would be amazed, what you can do on it. bikes are bikes to me! too many hot shots are jumping ahead of themselfs to fast and getting powerful bikes and crashing.(im talking about the rookies here)so choose wisely what you want and what you can handle,stay upright!

[forkoil]

I havent pushed the tyres too much, but still reasonably, and no sign of anything giving away as yet. very stable. I tend to push the front a bit, thats my riding style, and it hasnt pushed out yet. I think the trick with these big 180 rears is to be on the gas more in the corners, possibly slower entry than I am used to, having had an SV650 I am used to carrying as much speed as poss into corners. But I have the feeling that the GSXR likes to be powered thru corners on that big rear rather than pushed thru from the front? Any opinions on this?

[forkoil]

<snipped>but i truely belive in this phrase(it all comes down to the rider!! master your bike and you would be what you can do on it. bikes are bikes to me! too many hot shots are jumping ahead of themselfs to fast and getting powerful bikes and crashing.(im talking about the rookies here)so choose wisely what you want and what you can handle,stay upright!
Too true, I referred to just that in my post about the bar height the GSXR imposes, and I know SV's, and have ridden with SV thous....

[eddy lee]

well dude iv gone threw 8xpairs of tyres sense iv head my sv,and my rear tyres are always worn befor the front.iv been pushing my sv hard around the corners just to see how much it can handle,im pleased with what it gives me on every ride..and finding the g'spot on the sv dam its fun to hold it on the corners iv had alot of comments that i ride my sv well ,im proud to say the sv is the rocket for me for another year or so?

[eddy lee]

oh by the way,that l.plate rider by my name is false hehehe iv been rideing for 18years,and have had 7 bikes during that time.

[forkoil]

well dude iv gone threw 8xpairs of tyres sense iv head my sv,and my rear tyres are always worn befor the front.iv been pushing my sv hard around the corners just to see how much it can handle,im pleased with what it gives me on every ride..and finding the g'spot on the sv dam its fun to hold it on the corners iv had alot of comments that i ride my sv well ,im proud to say the sv is the rocket for me for another year or so?
Eddy, test ride a GSX-R600 on a decent longish ride and post back here... I dare you :whistle:

[eddy lee]

hahaha already done it wen it first came out 2 my buddies got them and i still leave behind at times,but hey like i said it all depends on the rider! yes gixxer are dam giuck but im happy with the sv,just hope find the right bike for you!

[forkoil]

hahaha already done it wen it first came out 2 my buddies got them and i still leave behind at times,but hey like i said it all depends on the rider! yes gixxer are dam giuck but im happy with the sv,just hope find the right bike for you!
I have mate I have...its the GSX-R ;)

[discotex]

I had to shrink the jpgs a bit to be under the server limit :-(

Good shit man. You got the best colour I reckon. Doesn't look as good in photos but IRL looks better than the white/blue.

Time for the Evotech tail tidy now.

[Movistar]

But I have the feeling that the GSXR likes to be powered thru corners on that big rear rather than pushed thru from the front? Any opinions on this?

When I got my semfiddy I found the same thing, initially I thought it was suspension set up but I realised my entry speed was a little too high when this was happening, the bike never felt out of shape as such, just could feel the front pushing. Backed off on the entry speed a tad, on the throttle smoothly and earlier than I used to, and it's all good!!

Great machines, good choice!

[forkoil]

When I got my semfiddy I found the same thing, initially I thought it was suspension set up but I realised my entry speed was a little too high when this was happening, the bike never felt out of shape as such, just could feel the front pushing. Backed off on the entry speed a tad, on the throttle smoothly and earlier than I used to, and it's all good!!

Great machines, good choice!
Thanks for that confirmation, thats exactly what I think too, I got into the habit riding the SV which suited that type of cornering but the GIXXA doesnt!! It feels so very much smoother on the power in corners unlike the SV unless you turned sharply stood it up a bit and nailed the throttle. But the GIXXA seems to love throttle while still right over and if anything steadies, I reckon its the weight distro and that big 180 on the back

[Littleman]

hahaha already done it wen it first came out 2 my buddies got them and i still leave behind at times,but hey like i said it all depends on the rider! yes gixxer are dam giuck but im happy with the sv,just hope find the right bike for you!

I thought you were keeping the gixer?
Gonna work for your money now and not rely on that apathetic torque?

Enjoyed the ride back by the way.

[munterk6]

I wouldnt waste my time on an SV1000, I ride with a SV and I can tell you honestly, they are not in the same league as the gixxer. Dont get me wrong, they are a good bike, but the GSXR is a great bike!
Damn the torpedoes...go straight to the top:drool:

[boomer]

buy a motard... gixxers are shit. They're good for shits and giggles but they're crap quality
.

[mynameis]

buy a motard... gixxers are shit. They're good for shits and giggles but they're crap quality
.

:D :lol:

Now we're talking, such a pleasure hearing that from the horses mouth.

[FkNAmerican]

hey forkoil......I've got the noise problem of the GSXR-600 solved for you:

Get yourself a Kawasaki ZX6-R.....its not as loud stock as the Gixer and it handles just as good if not better. At the very least take one for a test ride before buying the Gixer so you have a reference point.

[forkoil]

hey forkoil......I've got the noise problem of the GSXR-600 solved for you:

Get yourself a Kawasaki ZX6-R.....its not as loud stock as the Gixer and it handles just as good if not better. At the very least take one for a test ride before buying the Gixer so you have a reference point.
FknA, I did test ride a zx6r, admittedly not a good test ride, but I found the riding position akin to sitting on a steeply inclined ironing board, didnt like it at all cf the GSXR riding position.

[homer]

1. the gsxr's are not at runout pricing. The 750 is a grand cheaper than the thou, there's no way thats runout pricing. Suzies are always cheaper than the rest, especially Yamaha's. The exchange rate is driving the prices down, and I bet the distributor is still making a packet on 78cents.
2. My 07 svthou stock suspension is shit. Sully rides his sv650 much harder than I can ride my thou. I have to use the power of the thou just to keep him in sight.
3. If you like twisties, and you want a bargain, look at the 900 hornet. Yes I know it looks like a bit of a nana's bike, but with motocross bars they are a hoot, and will go the distance as a tourer as well. And you won't have that Suzuki reliability to worry about. 11k list, with I bet more room for the dealer to discount than a suzuki. (they'll be running them out soon as the cb1000R is due).

if thats the case maybe shoulld be getting a bandit 1250
be better than the hornet
just my 2 cents

[sambo]

2007 sv1000.rear shock is fully adjustable, it works well..front forks have 2 much friction.wont work well over small bumps,but they are adjustable. through the twisties alot depends on how big your ballssss are!! will that aprilia or ducati go faster or depreciate faster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!awsome wheeles and a new 1000cc 4 12500!!

[The Stranger]

I don't believe your story about the 998, because I find it hard to believe you have friends. Get over yourself.

Hey, that's a little unfair.


He has Katman.

[dipshit]

. . :clap:

[Meekey_Mouse]

Not sure if you're still deciding... But I have the solution for you... Buy my 600:clap: