What do you drive and why ??

[Quasievil]

Im keen to know what us speed freacks drive by way of car, if any of course. Motorbikes arent always practical so cars do have a place (did I say that) its a bit hard for me to put all 4 family members on the ZXR, though I seen it done before on a Gp125
Anyway for me I drive
Pajero 4x4 long wheel base , great for loading up on long trips and camping trips etc, good tow car
VW VR6 2.8 lt 184 kw grunter , why cause I love the power and the growelling :crazy: engine in full song, not very practical but awesome

So what ya got for a driver people ???
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[dveus]

1990 Hyundai Excel - why? because it was cheap

[aff-man]

Don't ... why: driven a car a couple time and it totally freaked me out :eek: :crybaby: :crybaby: . Don't like it but will have to learn sometime

[Devil]

'97 Mitsi VR4 Sedan (fuck this common wagon legnum shit). 4wd, 205kw 2.5L V6 Twin Turbo.
Dunno why they bothered putting traction control on it, with the Active Yaw Control, you'd have to be a complete munter to get the thing sideways, theres no way you could do it accidentally.

Edit: Oh, the why part. Because I like quick cars, plus, the only time I can listen to my music loud without pissing off the neighbours is in the car.
Had a 300zx previously, very much enjoyed that car. great open road cruiser, very predictable when you're giving it a hiding.

[Riff Raff]

Suzuki Escudo 4wd. Good for loading up with dive gear, and kayak on top to get to those out of the way dive sites. Good off road vehicle. And being a 1600cc it's not as costly on the fuel as other 4wds.

Oh yeah, and I drive a Mercedes for work.

[Paul in NZ]

Vicki drives a 93' Mitsi Magna s/w. It uses a bit of gas but reliable as all get out (we have done 160,000km in it total now well over 200,000) and it gets the crap pounded out of it in supermarkets all day. When we are on holiday it's great for the kayaks too 'cos it is so long and we can throw a ton of munt in the back! Brill car but has all the conering performance of a breeze block. It's called Moby Dick 'cos it's a big white whale...

I drive a 1989 Starlet XL. GREAT car. Cost nothing to buy, cost next to nothing to run and you can park anywhere and who cares? When it expires i'll just set fire to it on the side of the road and steal another one... I commute 100km a day in it and it costs less than the train for goodness sake!

[manuboy]

98 Prelude.

Tough as nuts (faaaaark, i just complemented a honda!). Economical. Pulls trailers. LOTS of trailers. Trailers full of Gib, old baths, limestone chip, roof batons etc. Nobody tries to race me from the lights in it either.

You can't renovate (rebuild / restore) houses using ya cickle. I challenge ya. Myabe if you had a really strong neck you could probably do the Indian style "balance it on the head" trick - but i reckon the :Police: would proabably be interested in someone cruising the main with 10 sheets of 3.6m gib on their noggin...

Will soon need a CHEAP UTE, or a trailer that folds away (no gargre) to take my bucket out to 'puna. I want my bucket! :cry:

[justsomeguy]

Have a trusty old 89 Corolla only 1300cc and a 5spd. But she took me to Cape Reinga and back in 22 hours - with toilet and meal breaks and 2 hours break at the cape. Lovely cheap reliable car.

For the weekends I got my dear 94 MR2 also a 5spd - The best thing this side of a Ferrari I guess. Mid-engine rear wheel drive and it hardly weighs anything - bring on the twisties :devil2: It's the closest thing for the price to a real go-kart.:spudbooge

[Blakamin]

dont have no cage :spudbooge
but I have my sisters 94 celica for a week :eek5: (parked the moment i got back from dropping her at the airport)
would get a cage if I didnt have a bike and had to actually walk somewhere


For the weekends I got my dear 94 MR2 also a 5spd - The best thing this side of a Ferrari I guess. Mid-engine rear wheel drive and it hardly weighs anything - bring on the twisties It's the closest thing for the price to a real go-kart.

dont ya find it a bit light in the front around corners??? (my cousins was...tended to major understeer)

[Quasievil]

98 Prelude.

Tough as nuts (faaaaark, i just complemented a honda!). Economical. Pulls trailers. LOTS of trailers. Trailers full of Gib, old baths, limestone chip, roof batons etc. Nobody tries to race me from the lights in it either.

You can't renovate (rebuild / restore) houses using ya cickle. I challenge ya. Myabe if you had a really strong neck you could probably do the Indian style "balance it on the head" trick - but i reckon the :Police: would proabably be interested in someone cruising the main with 10 sheets of 3.6m gib on their noggin...

Will soon need a CHEAP UTE, or a trailer that folds away (no gargre) to take my bucket out to 'puna. I want my bucket! :cry:
Well you can youre not trying hard enough look at this guy !!

[scumdog]

A big white car with lots of blue & orange bits on it and some lights on the roof, they go anywhere at any speed and take a pounding but unfortunately it's a Holden.. :whistle:

Why? 'cos that's all you cheap-skate tax-payers will pay for! :killingme :blah:

[justsomeguy]

dont have no cage :spudbooge
dont ya find it a bit light in the front around corners??? (my cousins was...tended to major understeer)I have the 94 version. Toyota changed most of the technical bits about then, engine, suspension, etc - so it is a little bit more user friendly.

But yes you have to be very careful as infront all you have is the battery and a spare tyre. In the back you have yourself, the gear box and the engine and worse still the power (rear-wheel drive) comes from the back too. So there is a lot more weight in the back that is fighting to get in front.

The car is easy to spin if you don't know what you are doing. NEVER slow down in a turn or you'll be going straight to the panel beaters or even the hospital if you were too fast.

But get it right and that light front end means you can enter corners much faster than the average car. I can take a traffic roundabout easily at 50kmph without the car losing its calm - feels the same at 20kmph in my corolla.

I love it. Hey if you get a chance try and drive a pre 89 MR2 - look at the pic. They are :2thumbsup - Really, if you don't come back smiling - you must be getting old :sweatdrop . Sure the 94 looks better. And is a better car in most other respects but it looses out to the pre 89 cars in terms of its "fun factor".

Now don't get me started on cars - or you will have to ban me from this forum - cos I won't be able to shut-up:Pokey:

:laugh:

[StoneChucker]

A 1990 Mazda MX5, blue, 1600, completely standard. It's not fast, but I love the top down cruising on a hot day. Got zero boot space, partly since I've got a cd changer in there. Only 2 seats, so not a family car by any means...

[justsomeguy]

A big white car with lots of blue & orange bits on it and some lights on the roof, they go anywhere at any speed and take a pounding but unfortunately it's a Holden.. :whistle:

Why? 'cos that's all you cheap-skate tax-payers will pay for! :killingme :blah: :Oi: - can I borrow it for a bit of a blast one day :laugh: ???? Cos after all I PAID FOR IT

No......:eek5: Awww......

Anyway - my real question. What do cop cars have done to them? Don't tell me they are a stock standard car off the Holden showroom.

No I'm not after the laser guided missile systems :2guns:and x-ray cameras you have - just the bits that make them go faster. And whats the top speed? If you say something over 250 - I would find it hard to swallow.

[claire]

I have a 1989 MX5 that I use for driving to work, for now. It's just been repainted and apparently its for sale so I can buy some boring 4 door sedan cause Chris doesn't like travelling in our Navara. Bummer cause it looks so pretty. They're gutless but run on the smell of an oily rag and handle extremely well. When I'm not out on the bike I cruise in my 60 T Bird, it rocks. 352 V8, uses shit loads of gas, handles like a big american whale but looks cool and sounds great when I've got the caps off the lake pipes.

Claire

[Gixxer]

A big white car with lots of blue & orange bits on it and some lights on the roof, they go anywhere at any speed and take a pounding but unfortunately it's a Holden.. :whistle:

Why? 'cos that's all you cheap-skate tax-payers will pay for! :killingme :blah:

Now, you need to come to Oz and join the force here. So far I have seen XR8 patrol cars, brand new SS under cover cars, and this cool looking PT cruiser, all shiny, crome mags and all the trimmings.

Only have my TLR, the wife has a new XR6 which is her company car, so I drive that around when I am with the wife. other then that I am on my bike.
Used to have a Subaru legacy, which was used to haul my kayaks and toys around in, untill the engine blew an hour outside of NApier, that was a week before i moved to OZ.

[MikeL]

Dinky little Starlet, engine smaller than my XJR's, utterly reliable and incredibly economical. I use it about once a week at most. The rest of the time it gets borrowed and thrashed by my 2 sons.

Also have a BMW which my wife drives and we take away on long trips if I can't find an excuse to take the bike.

I find it hard to get excited about cars these days. I do miss the couple of Triumph 2000s which I had, and the Peugeot 504, not to mention the 107E Prefect. But not the Honda Legend. What a heap of sh*t...

I too am in the market for a good cheap ute (like half the population of Auckland, apparently.) but it seems the phrase has become an oxymoron...

[Hitcher]

1992 Subaru Impreza 1.8 HXs. An outstandingly reliable drive (touch wood).

[vifferman]

:whocares: Is this a pissing contest?
While in theory I own three cars, none of them are mine in the sense that the bike is. Come to think of it - since that's ours, I can't say anything is mine. :confused2
But I do sometimes drive a 2001 Peugeot 306, a 1990 Peugeot 205 GTi, and a 1989 Subaru Vortex, though usually not at the same time. :wacko:

I drive the Peugeots because they're excellent to drive, and because sometimes I need to, and the Subaru if I need to tow a trailer or the other cars are unavailable.

If I need to move summat big, I hire a truck, and if I'm skiing I hire a Prado, Exploder, or some other big ManhoodCompensatorThrustingPenisPushTheOtherVehicl esOffTheRoad vehicle.

[Motoracer]

I drive a 1990 Ford Econovan. 2.0 liter petrol. Sucks a lot of petrol, slow as shit, and the roof is gunna colapce any day cause of the rust.

At least it still gets me race bike to the track and back. P.S. A double bed easily fits in there!

[scumdog]

:Oi: - can I borrow it for a bit of a blast one day :laugh: ???? Cos after all I PAID FOR IT

No......:eek5: Awww......

Anyway - my real question. What do cop cars have done to them? Don't tell me they are a stock standard car off the Holden showroom.

No I'm not after the laser guided missile systems :2guns:and x-ray cameras you have - just the bits that make them go faster. And whats the top speed? If you say something over 250 - I would find it hard to swallow.
No, you can't borrow it, all YOU have paid for so far is the wiper blades and the inside light bulb - keep paying buster!!

Dunno what all is done to them, chipped, modded suspension I s'pose and a really big acceleremator! Never met anybody who has got one to 250km - the light-bar causes a bit too much drag but 220+ has been done (apparently) :whistle:

[Blakamin]

No, you can't borrow it, all YOU have paid for so far is the wiper blades and the inside light bulb - keep paying buster!!

Dunno what all is done to them, chipped, modded suspension I s'pose and a really big acceleremator! Never met anybody who has got one to 250km - the light-bar causes a bit too much drag but 220+ has been done (apparently) :whistle:
Shit.... my bosses crummydore wagon does 220kph (2002 model)...them cop cars must be shite!

[Blackbird]

Great to see all the MX5's and an Impreza!

I have a 2 litre Impreza (non turbo) cos 4WD is good for towing and the handling is great. My wife has a '91 BRG MX5 and is a member of the MX5 car club. Surprisingly practical as we toured the south island for a month in it.

Geoff

[Dr Bob]

Expensive 2004 Maxima for the missus (CD and Aircon etc.)

Cheap 1983/4 b2000 ute for me (Am/fm radio and windows)


Is this normal?

[Devil]

While im here... Anyone want to by my VR4? hehe.

[Motu]

For me the 'why' explains what I drive - I pick up dead cars that my customers walk away from as being too expensive to repair....I'm stupid enough to think I can repair them cheaper...in reality I spend more on them than the customer did.

My shop hack and general runabout is a 88 C22 Nissan Vanette diesel,this is one of the few vehicles I have gone out and bought because I wanted one - I had been carting my trials bike in my 1987 Escort van,so when I got rid of that looked for a small van to set up as a bike hauler....I kinda like the turd machine,gunna be damned hard to kill....but I'll be crippled and deaf before then.

My personal wheels is a 1989 Pajero,long wheelbase turbo diesel - I had 2 of these things dumped here last year with blown motors,so picked them up for $500 each,the motor has had a full recondition,no stone unturned (cept injectors....I like the smoke) With all the stuff I've done to it at customer rates it'd be up to $10,000 to do,but much less for me of course,I get trade on parts,cheaper labour,no GST and had a doner vehicle.I like it,a dirt car for a dirt biker.

My wife drives a 1990 Diamante,another dead one from my shop.It's the very top of the line 3 litre with every doo dad and leather interior,can you believe these things were $90,000 new! I had a bit of trouble finding an engine...but one of my suppliers said...we've got one here,but can't get it going,every thing has been check,but it just won't run,you can take a risk on it for $450.So I took it - it had new belts,tensioners,water pump,looking down the ports I see 10 new inlet valves,didn't look at the exhausts,but expect the same - this thing has done a belt and bent valves,but is a non runner.Trying to do a leakdown test I had trouble figuring out the firing order (123456),even with the valve covers off - then I found out why...the cams were switched around! Cams in the right places and shes a runner.Spent some extra dumping the air suspn for coils,but this thing is a gem on a trip,and I don't believe how well it handles on a gravel road,it'd clean me up on a bike no worries!

Just done a 1993 Nissan Laurel for my younger daughter,did an engine transplant,the import engine had a new genuine belt and tensioner and water pump.Gunna be a nice car for a teenager.I sold it to her for $2000,she doesn't realise it's cost half as much again to put on the road,bloody kids,you just can't stop giving...

I did a Charade GT Ti turbo for the elder daughter as a courier car,but it was taken out by a bus and she has a March now.Pity,I put a lot into that one,even painting it red for the company colours.One hell of a performer,a 4 wheeled motorcycle.

Her boy friend drives another one of mine,a 1993 Telstar waggon,picked up as cancellation of a $500 debt.At 330,000km I thought the motor was a dead duck,but was absolutly prestine inside,so popped in rings and bearings,slapped on a brand new $700 cyl head,at 380,000km it's back here for a head gasket after he cooked it when the heater core blew.

I also have a 1984 Telstar Giha,this is due for a flick,but the daughter is still using it as I have the Laurel in for some panel work - lucky because it was hit last night in the city.Perfect mechanicly,plush Giha interior,looks like shit.

Ok,so I got a few cars....it's what I do for a living.

[scroter]

dont ya find it a bit light in the front around corners??? (my cousins was...tended to major understeer)

had one (AW11) early model. plenty of grunt :apumpin: . light as anything. big fat tyres for something so small, awesome brakes.yep it did get a little light in the front but only on the gravel roads, easy fix spin the back tyres get the thing sideways and it would turn, still not too easy to control on steel belted road tyres though. bloody brilliant on the seal specially in the twistys, best fun car i ever had :2thumbsup .

got a grandads car now cause i hate driving them now. i bought my maxima cause its got a 3 litre, automatic, and most importantly cruise control :sleep: (yes it is possible to drive with your feet up on the dash) it hardly ever gets washed, cause i hate that too, but its bloody comfortable and suprisingly cheap on gas and nothing has broken on it in three whole years.

[DebK]

Mitsu Legnum 2.5 V6 AWD - sounds good but a bit heavy. Great wagons.
Toyota Hiace 2.4 Van - done over 300,000kms and still going strong.
Series 1 Mazda RX7
Mitsu Lancer Evo 6 (for sale!)
The Scoot

[Fryin Finn]

I have a 92 Prelude VTEC. Goes rather well and has been lowered with 17" rubber band wheels. Unfortunately ground clearance is rather low and when towing my trailer with dirtbike the off road sections become rather challenging.

[Jamezo]

Ok,so I got a few cars....it's what I do for a living.

you da man! :niceone: always good to see people getting bargains cause they have a little knowledge

[cruzer]

Subaru Legacy GTB Twin Turbo

[Marmoot]

a supra......I wish I have a ducati...

[duckman]

**Fills chest with pride**

I don't own a car ... I've got a bike instead. :bleh:

[Cajun]

**Fills chest with pride**

I don't own a car ... I've got a bike instead. :bleh:
i second that remark

wife has a 92 nz new honda civic and then a 2002 vtr1000f

but me i just have my lovely gixxer

[scumdog]

Shit.... my bosses crummydore wagon does 220kph (2002 model)...them cop cars must be shite!

With a certified speedo of course??
Note I said 220+ but not how much "+" :sly:
Put a light-bar on top of your bosses wagon plus a shitload of crash stuff, gun-box etc and THEN see how well it does!! :disapint:














'course their shite - they're paid for by shite tax-payers :blah: :msn-wink:

[rodgerd]

Heh. An old 85 Totota Corolla XL. Patches of rust, but with nearly 300,000 km on it the engine's sweet as with no major work. It's shifted more houses than I care to think about trailer load by trailer load, up and down Wellington hills, and when I moved here I stuck everything I owned in it and drove from Taranaki. It's been around the whole South Island several times, and a fair chunk of the North. It's been to every major city in New Zealand, and countless little places out the back of beyond. It survived me learning to drive, and my teenage years of driving like an idiot with gear box intact. It's been broken in to, rear ended, and side swiped. There were a few more personal firsts, as well.

I don't have the heart to get rid of it. I love that little car.

Oh, and a '94 Toyota Trueno GT Apex. Goes like snot when you rev it up, but it's been nothing but trouble - probably average $1k plus a year in work. Either that or my garage is raping me. Or both. Looking to replace it with something like a Puegot 405 or 406, or maybe a Nissan 2 litre 6.

[Blakamin]

With a certified speedo of course??
Note I said 220+ but not how much "+" :sly:
Put a light-bar on top of your bosses wagon plus a shitload of crash stuff, gun-box etc and THEN see how well it does!! :disapint:

I'd actually like to see the POS crashed....farqin holden drivers!
Its got laser jammers front and rear, 2 radar detectors and some other noisy bullshit
the POS has a limiter, which is why it stops at 220.... and yeah, his speedo is calibrated/ certified...the prick is an ex-MoT and also a lawyer! and he loves taking every ticket he gets to court... wasting more tax-payers money!




(did I mention I have a dog in Oz called Ford?)

[scumdog]

I'd actually like to see the POS crashed....farqin holden drivers!
Its got laser jammers front and rear, 2 radar detectors and some other noisy bullshit
the POS has a limiter, which is why it stops at 220.... and yeah, his speedo is calibrated/ certified...the prick is an ex-MoT and also a lawyer! and he loves taking every ticket he gets to court... wasting more tax-payers money!




(did I mention I have a dog in Oz called Ford?)

Hope he uses the classic "you can't have had your radar on 'cos my detector never went off" I encourage anyone who says that to write in and see if they get off :bleh:

Also his calibration "certificate" thing ain't worth the paper it is written on in Court but don't burst his bubble eh?

Seems odd that a man hell bent on speeding, fits all the electronic crap you mentioned then STILL has a limiter :stupid: :doh: :spudwhat:

[Motoracer]

Put a light-bar on top of your bosses wagon plus a shitload of crash stuff, gun-box etc and THEN see how well it does!! :disapint:

You really gotta watch out for the un-marked HP cars then.

[justsomeguy]

No, you can't borrow it, all YOU have paid for so far is the wiper blades and the inside light bulb - keep paying buster!!

Dunno what all is done to them, chipped, modded suspension I s'pose and a really big acceleremator! Never met anybody who has got one to 250km - the light-bar causes a bit too much drag but 220+ has been done (apparently) :whistle:
Well considering all the years I've paid tax - I'm sure I own at least half a car.

By the way - why do you (all coppers) drive those stupid holdens - when something like a WRX/EVO/VR4 will easily catch anything - be cheaper to fix - be more reliable and with your advanced driving skills be a real deterent to speeders. Also with our NZ roads 4WD should be a bonus ???

But I guess your bosses just like to do whatever the aussies do huh?

[Blakamin]

Also his calibration "certificate" thing ain't worth the paper it is written on in Court but don't burst his bubble eh?

He actually pulled a cop over in auckland for speeding about 2 months ago


Seems odd that a man hell bent on speeding, fits all the electronic crap you mentioned then STILL has a limiter :stupid: :doh: :spudwhat:
well he IS a lawyer... never been known to make much sense!!!! :laugh:
get the idea I think he's a tossa yet???? :done:

[scumdog]

Well considering all the years I've paid tax - I'm sure I own at least half a car.

By the way - why do you (all coppers) drive those stupid holdens - when something like a WRX/EVO/VR4 will easily catch anything - be cheaper to fix - be more reliable and with your advanced driving skills be a real deterent to speeders. Also with our NZ roads 4WD should be a bonus ???

But I guess your bosses just like to do whatever the aussies do huh?


Don't talk to me about 'reliable' and VR4 in the same breath, the auto is shite in the one I've used and has cost a fortune so far in repairs!! :angry2:

Al all those front wheel drive/four wheel drives need a bowling green sized area to turn around - not so good in the Kawarau Gorge etc.s

Plus the can't be offered at the same discount as Holdens,- N.Z. Police and equipment? try cheap=good! :(

[justsomeguy]

'course their shite - they're paid for by shite tax-payers :blah: :msn-wink:
Including you I suppose - or don't you pay tax???

[scumdog]

He actually pulled a cop over in auckland for speeding about 2 months ago?? :done:

And how did his prosecution go for THAT???? or did he just strop-off saying "my car's certified and you were speeding"? :crazy:

[Devil]

Don't talk to me about 'reliable' and VR4 in the same breath, the auto is shite in the one I've used and has cost a fortune so far in repairs!! :angry2:

Al all those front wheel drive/four wheel drives need a bowling green sized area to turn around - not so good in the Kawarau Gorge etc.s
:(
Thats what the handbrakes for!
Auto = shite?
Are you talking about 5 speed tiptronic? thats one of the best auto boxes ive seen...
Haven't had to fix anything major on mine and the only thing coming up is new front rotors. Had it for nearly two years now.

[scumdog]

Including you I suppose - or don't you pay tax???

Hey!! no trolling, this is a serious biker only web-site :bleh:

[justsomeguy]

Plus the can't be offered at the same discount as Holdens,- N.Z. Police and equipment? try cheap=good! :(
Fair enough - fair enough...... :)

But after all the Police is a govt. organisation so they can't spend too much. And NZ isn't exactly a "rich" country on an international scale. So...... hey seen a lot of coppers here driving around in brand new black (un marked) SS sedans - lucky bastards.

By the way whose stupid idea was it to insist that they drive unmarked cars yet wear full uniform? So anyone who knows what to look for can spot them? And the cars are super easy to spot too.

I mean they still have ID don't they? Or is the uniform for the ladies..............:pinch:

[justsomeguy]

Hey!! no trolling, this is a serious biker only web-site :bleh:
I know - but look what it says on top of my page:

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[MikeL]

Cheap 1983/4 b2000 ute for me (Am/fm radio and windows)


How much do ya want for the ute (take out the radio if it brings the price down...)??

[scumdog]

Thats what the handbrakes for!
Auto = shite?
Are you talking about 5 speed tiptronic? thats one of the best auto boxes ive seen...
Haven't had to fix anything major on mine and the only thing coming up is new front rotors. Had it for nearly two years now.

Yeah, I can just see it now: "Police driver on dangerous driving charge after executing hand-brake turn to chase speeder" :no:
IF your tiptronic shits itself you better be pretty wealthy is all I can say!!! - many $000's just to fix!! :eek:

[Devil]

Yeah, I can just see it now: "Police driver on dangerous driving charge after executing hand-brake turn to chase speeder" :no:
IF your tiptronic shits itself you better be pretty wealthy is all I can say!!! - many $000's just to fix!! :eek:
Heh well its only got 65,000km on it, and should be selling soon, so it can be someone elses problem :D. Fathers one has the same k's and no problems either. Alas, he wants a remuera tractor again *sigh*. Im trying to talk him into a Subaru Outback or something, some kind of compromise. A bit of ground clearance, but without being a 4WheelDick.

[justsomeguy]

Saw the Top Gear video about the Outback - they gave it a very good review.
And it is a very good car. Matter of fact - I think it would be the best car for kiwi conditions. All factors considered.

Unless your dad needs a Soccer Mum Status Symbol to navigate dangerous off-road terrain:blank: .
And why not some people ARE into that sort of driving :Playnice:

Then go and get that Land Cruiser or Pajero or Lexus or Merc, etc, etc whatever you rich people drive. :yeah:

[FROSTY]

I drive --Um well anything I want to --sporty to a van
My trusty (I hope ) van gets the racebike to the track and keeps me dry in the pits.
MY favorite car on the yard right now is a 1996 ford fairmont 4.0l straight 6--
its just so danged nice to drive

[justsomeguy]

Hey Frosty whats the diff between a straight 6 and a flat 6 (porsche) and an inline 6??

Please use small words and simple language - preferably english. :niceone:

[Devil]

Hey Frosty whats the diff between a straight 6 and a flat 6 (porsche) and an inline 6??

Please use small words and simple language - preferably english. :niceone:
How do you want it explained? You mean the engine layout?

[Dodgyiti]

Car?
Well,OK I 'spose a ute counts eh?
1964 EH ute

[Devil]

Saw the Top Gear video about the Outback - they gave it a very good review. And it is a very good car. Matter of fact - I think it would be the best car for kiwi conditions. All factors considered. Unless your dad needs a Soccer Mum Status Symbol to navigate dangerous off-road terrain:blank: . And why not some people ARE into that sort of driving :Playnice: Then go and get that Land Cruiser or Pajero or Lexus or Merc, etc, etc whatever you rich people drive. :yeah:
We used to have a '96 Toyota Surf, 3L Turbo Diesel. That was a good beast, and although it spent a lot of time on the road, it did take us up Mt Tarawera a couple of times, but it was mainly used to cart a lot of gear around, parents are trampers so they liked being able to abuse it and just biff stuff in the back.
Dont need one again though. Its hard trying to talk them around, specially when mum wears the pants. hah.

[justsomeguy]

How do you want it explained? You mean the engine layout?
yeah - I thought it's the way (direction) the cylinders(pistons) move................

[Devil]

yeah - I thought it's the way (direction) the cylinders(pistons) move................
Ah right. Yes. Its completely to do with the cylinder layout.
Start with porsche, this is what is also refered to as a boxer type engine. Take a V6, and squash it flat, so you have 3 cylinders pointing to the left, and 3 to the right, directly opposing each other.

Inline and "straight" is usually refering to the same thing. Just like your typical 4cyl motorcycle engine, thats an inline four (although there are a couple of V4's out there).

As for the W engine configuration, "apparently" its like two lots of cylinders on top of each other (in V's), but I havent actually seen any kind of scheme myself so I dont have a clear picture in my head.

[scumdog]

Fair enough - fair enough...... :)

But after all the Police is a govt. organisation so they can't spend too much. And NZ isn't exactly a "rich" country on an international scale. So...... hey seen a lot of coppers here driving around in brand new black (un marked) SS sedans - lucky bastards.

By the way whose stupid idea was it to insist that they drive unmarked cars yet wear full uniform? So anyone who knows what to look for can spot them? And the cars are super easy to spot too.

I mean they still have ID don't they? Or is the uniform for the ladies..............:pinch:

The bosses can be pretty wierd at times (almost like a certain boss/lawyer mentioned in this thread) and have said "we will give you plain cars so you can be sneaky but you have to wear the uniform and your glo-jacket and you are not to be cunning and hide the car behind bushes etc etc " WTF,
It's like do your job but with one hand tied behind your back???
To make it worse they say "you guys with the marked cars are expected to get as many tickets as the guys in the plain ones."

Nothing like a level playing field eh? <_< :confused2 :rolleyes:

[FROSTY]

Hey Frosty whats the diff between a straight 6 and a flat 6 (porsche) and an inline 6??

Please use small words and simple language - preferably english. :niceone:
yeop well its as devil said basicly
Think motorbikes ok
The BMW r series are flat twins -one cylinder out each side --a flat 6 is same concept just 3 out each side.-flat
The V type engines be they V4/6/ or 8 are sorta like flat engines but the heads come up at an angle--V
Straight 4/6/8 is as devil said like a standard jap multi -l the cylinders in a row ,head sticking up (usually)
A straight 4 is usually in the east -west configeration and a 6 or 8 is usually north south.
Gwan now you car expirts -tell him about the estima with a flat 4 out the side and the masda cronos ........

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[Devil]

A straight 4 is usually in the east -west configeration and a 6 or 8 is usually north south.
For the benefit of those that are unfamiliar with using east/west in terms of engine position...

East - West or North - South is basically refering to the direction the crankshaft of the engine is pointing. By knowing if a (front engined) car is rear wheel drive or front wheel drive will give you a big clue as to which way the engine is facing.
A fwd car 95% of the time has an East - West layout, so all the gearbox/driveshafty bits are in the right place to drive the front wheels. In the rear wheel drive car, 95% of the time its North - South, again to line up with the gearbox and driveshaft.

When you get to referring to mid or rear engined cars it can really go either way.

[Yamahamaman]

Used to own a Nissan Skyline - Japanese manufacture, six cylinder rear wheel drive. Great car.

Reason I sold it - well Gummint likes to charge ACC in everything including motor registration and as I can't make use of 2 vehicles at the same time, it mean't that I was paying one lot of ACC for nothing.

[Blakamin]

For the benefit of those that are unfamiliar with using east/west in terms of engine position...

East - West or North - South is basically refering to the direction the crankshaft of the engine is pointing. By knowing if a (front engined) car is rear wheel drive or front wheel drive will give you a big clue as to which way the engine is facing.
A fwd car 95% of the time has an East - West layout, so all the gearbox/driveshafty bits are in the right place to drive the front wheels. In the rear wheel drive car, 95% of the time its North - South, again to line up with the gearbox and driveshaft.

When you get to referring to mid or rear engined cars it can really go either way.
Then ya got ya old slant 6.... :shifty:

[vifferman]

Then ya got ya old slant 6.... :shifty:... and the new W12...<_<

[Paul in NZ]

Have a look here for engine config.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/engine5.htm

In fact if you ever want a simple explanation on how anything works (apart from women) go to http://www.howstuffworks.com/

brilliant site.

[justsomeguy]

Have a look here for engine config.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/engine5.htm

In fact if you ever want a simple explanation on how anything works (apart from women) go to http://www.howstuffworks.com/

brilliant site.
Just checked it out - you are right brilliant site

[justsomeguy]

Did someone somewhere just confirm that somebody has a quota to fill :sweatdrop

[Oscar]

:whocares: Is this a pissing contest?
While in theory I own three cars, none of them are mine in the sense that the bike is. Come to think of it - since that's ours, I can't say anything is mine. :confused2
But I do sometimes drive a 2001 Peugeot 306, a 1990 Peugeot 205 GTi, and a 1989 Subaru Vortex, though usually not at the same time. :wacko:

I drive the Peugeots because they're excellent to drive, and because sometimes I need to, and the Subaru if I need to tow a trailer or the other cars are unavailable.

If I need to move summat big, I hire a truck, and if I'm skiing I hire a Prado, Exploder, or some other big ManhoodCompensatorThrustingPenisPushTheOtherVehicl esOffTheRoad vehicle.

Great collection. I've owned three Pugs - two 405's and a 605, and I reckon the Vortex is gonna become very collectable...

[justsomeguy]

If you interested I know someone (my boss) who wants to sell one (Vortex). He's an elderly gentlemen highly regarded in his industry-. He bought the car new - so NZ new 1 owner from new. Don't know much more. PM if you want anything

[RiderInBlack]

Not going to bother reading all the shit about "cages" here, BUT is one-else getting heaving sounds when they opened this thread:puke: You wouldn't happen to know something about this SM or Wari:innocent: It's that or one of you smart arse IT's are f*cking around:whocares:

[Jackrat]

I drive a Nissan Patrol,I tow things,do a bit of of off road driving geting into hunting an fishing country, an have a small dick. :bleh:
The Mrs drives a Toyota Rav4,she also does a bit of off road driving,mainly at horse shows an the like.
I'm selling the Patrol soon,(got over it aye)an will probably buy a Toyota Corolla or something else real exciting like that.

[jase]

Got a Toyota Curren and a Mitzi FTO.....Don't use them much, got my bike now!

[Slim]

My shopping cart is a 1993 Toyota Corolla 1600 4-door.

Why? Because it's extremely unlikely to be stolen & it's got a really decent sized boot & Toyota's tend to be bullet proof.

[avgas]

A big white car with lots of blue & orange bits on it and some lights on the roof, they go anywhere at any speed and take a pounding but unfortunately it's a Holden.. :whistle:
Why? 'cos that's all you cheap-skate tax-payers will pay for! :killingme :blah:
Thats not fair!...............................oh your a cop!.........thats not fair! :laugh:
mind due - could you imagine the cops driving mirages or daihatsu's

[avgas]

i got a 91 corona (my g/fs) auto - but i wouldnt have it any other way in the city.
I give it shit and dont do nothing to it - its got 180,000ks on the clock, hasnt had an oil change for about 30,000. But still starts everytime, and runs well. These motors are bullet proof - an the car has got enough torque to take of when i need to.
Used to have a mint 83' Sapporo - but i missed bike so much i swapped it for 1.
I miss having a grunty RWD manual with a LSD though - it was a good detox car to use when i wasnt suppose to ride a bike for 6moths while my leg healed.
too bloody rare for me though - was scared to drive it anywhere, only 9 came to NZ in 85', and of those only 3 on the road now. Worth alot of coin nowdays

[What?]

Expensive 2004 Maxima for the missus (CD and Aircon etc.)

Cheap 1983/4 b2000 ute for me (Am/fm radio and windows)


Is this normal?
Yup, fraid so. Mrs What? drives a V6 Camry Amon, I drive a B2600 ute. Coz it's practical - I can't tow a boat, let alone a tonne-and-a-half of gravel with a bike. Unless I get a Tomahawk, maybe...

[shandawg]

I've got a Peugeot 405 MI16

As if owning a bike wasn't enough of a money pit

:crazy:

[rodgerd]

I've got a Peugeot 405 MI16


Sweet.

I keep telling myself the one on Trademe isn't a good deal, since it may be cheap, but it's got 200,000km on the clock.

[Slipstream]

Im keen to know what us speed freacks drive by way of car


Yeah, I'm suuuch a speed freak in my 1.3L 1995 Toyota Corolla Hatchback :blink:

Why do I have a Rolla? Economic and it was a cheap buy and now I have to wait 2 years before I get rid of the damn thing. :brick:

I'd rather talk about what I'd want to get... A Ferrari Spider :love: Not so economical and for me, impossible to buy (at mo). Not to mention, terrible to run the kids round to school and go supermarket shopping .... but what a way to travel :whistle:

[Blakamin]

Why do I have a Rolla? Economic and it was a cheap buy and now I have to wait 2 years before I get rid of the damn thing. :brick:

Why 2 years????

[Two Smoker]

I own a 1991 Mitsubishi Galant Supersalon, that has done 211000kms... its been through a few clutches, a gear box, and multiple tyres..... it desperately needs a valve grind and new rings, but i spend all my $$$ on bikes not cars:rockon:

As for the cop cars, there are no SS commies, only the S model.... there are a few S-Supercharged ones around though.... there are also some BA Falcons hanging around for pursuit duty......

The new cars arent modded, they are stock standard S model lease cars (hence why they have 16 and 17inch mag wheels etc).... Performance is ok, but to get over 220 you need a REALLY long piece of road, and a slight tail wind :whistle:

The old AU falcons were chipped and had the XR-6 sports suspension, but they had a problem of dropping the diff at high speed (210kmh+)

The VT commies have some suspension tweaking....

All of them have uprated brake pads......

[rodgerd]

The new cars arent modded, they are stock standard S model lease cars (hence why they have 16 and 17inch mag wheels etc).... Performance is ok, but to get over 220 you need a REALLY long piece of road, and a slight tail wind
Could be worse. It could be those poxy little Rovers the British cops had in the 90s.

[scumdog]

Did someone somewhere just confirm that somebody has a quota to fill :sweatdrop

Do 61kmh past me and find out matey-flip!!! :killingme

[Dr Bob]

How much do ya want for the ute (take out the radio if it brings the price down...)??
Sorry MikeL, not for sale. Unless I manage to get another cheap old ute that has a double cab (I never really wanted one of these because the deck space decreases - some utes might as well just have a boot), because the missus suggested it might be a good travelling, picnic, holiday, beach option.

[scumdog]

My daily hack? - a '62 Anglia with performance mods (blue-dot tail-lights, Valiant light switch, racing steering wheel and Cordia drivers seat!) :niceone:

Why? 'cos it's old style, cheaper rego and only needs a bed-spanner and a phillips screw driver to fix - and uses $10 a fortnight for petrol. :laugh:

[Slipstream]

Why 2 years????

Unfinished HP and unable to do anything about it due to circumstances....

But she's a good car. I named her Betty. A mum's car that looks sassy ;) :)

I can wait to upgrade....enforced savings :laugh:

[riffer]

Strictly speaking, I don't have a car. Well, my name's on the rego papers but its really Gini's.

It's a 1997 Nissan Sentra Hatchback. 1500cc. Fits Her, Me, and three kids. Don't know what we are doing in March when Nicholas is born...

We used to have a 1995 Legacy GT-B but I wore out the gearbox and instead of fixing it ($4000 - ouch!) we swapped it for the Nissan. The Legacy had 140,000 on the clock and the Nissan had 49,000 independently certified km's.

As Gini's fond of telling me, the car uses less gas than my bike does...

but the bike does it better. :yes:

[dangerous]

By the way - why do you (all coppers) drive those stupid holdens - when something like a WRX/EVO/VR4 will easily catch anything - be cheaper to fix - be more reliable and with your advanced driving skills be a real deterent to speeders. Also with our NZ roads 4WD should be a bonus ???

well actually they do drive the likes of the Sub's A few years back a group of us on bikes was pulled over by a copper at Cromwell, we had just pulled into the servo and he in a Subru parked up across the for court stopping us from getting out..... Mr copper got out, we shat our selves cos we wernt going slow through the gourge from Queenstown.... but all the guy wanted was a chat and to check out the bikes as I was on the 11i Guzzi and ther were other od balls like a BB1 Bimota. The cop had been following us and knew what we were doing but just said take it easy as theres a couple of my mates up the rd.
Well how frigen nice was that huh? they like that down that way :2thumbsup

[dangerous]

:whocares: Is this a pissing contest?

I care and I piss the furtherest..... check out the 911 that I've been driving around.... you lads with the MR2's :shake:
Now I have to say that the 911 isent mine I own a Navara.


I do miss the couple of Triumph 2000s which I had
sweet... I asume that you are talking about the Mk1? I have had heaps of Trimphs Heralds (not good at 100mph) Vitesse, Stag & the 2000Mk2 the last one was a MK2 2.5 with TR6 running gear, flow's and twin pipes... best soud an engine can make other that a V2 (pic b4 the rear was lowered and the triple webers kicked 5.0L Holdens big time) shit I could kill for a TR5 though.

[Magua]

1988 Mazda 626 GLX 2L. The price was right. 283,000k's and still going strong. When you pass 4,500 rpm if you remove your foot from the accelerator and clutch in the throttle sticks and revs for another second before declining. Was kind of interesting when pushing the car. Clutch in, throttle sticks and climbs 2,000rpm over the red line, Woops, what happened there? Pic of it behind the GN.

[Uncle B]

92 Honda LXi 3 door..... Cheep as chips to run....no rust.....doesn't drop oil.
The only reason why I have a car is for those really shitty days when it's just not worth risking the bike.

[Juan]

As in a previous reply, I have an old Rover that cost me £65, goes better now I put an engine from my even older Rover in it :killingme

My wife has a 2004 Ford Fusion (bit bigger than a Fiesta) to teach peeps to drive in..... Soon to be gone for a new diesel Mini, and when that's worn out we should be on our way to your fine land :cool2:

[Firefight]

I drive a 1990 Ford Econovan. 2.0 liter petrol. Sucks a lot of petrol, slow as shit, and the roof is gunna colapce any day cause of the rust.

At least it still gets me race bike to the track and back. P.S. A double bed easily fits in there!


You were warned not to buy that piece of rusty shit :Punk:

F/F :confused:

[Badcat]

i drive the closest thing i can to a bike on 4 wheels.

1989 mazda mx5 1600
rebuilt balanced engine - head tickled a little
usual manifold, 2" free exhaust
Pod etc
strengthened chassis (entire new rails - tube)
height adjustable Konis
eibach springs
EBC brake pads
toyo FM9R DOT race tires (sticky sticky sticky)
rays volks 14" rims (lightest you can get for the standard fitment)

some old pics here:
http://www.kenkong.com/album/album.php?albumId=613&libraryId=140&personId=3

so there.
k

[Eurodave]

I fang around in a 1936 Morris 8 Sports, It has a 72 Viva HB 1300 motor & suspension/front discs. WHY? you may well ask? Well because [a] its cheap rego about $80 per year, [b] no seatbelts/fixed roof ie open air vehicle quite easy to WOF [c] I dont have to get dressed up in protective bike gear on a stinkin hot summers day [d] its not subject to continuous rego- vintage car more than 40 years old [e] it carries more than a bike can[just] Its like this one in the attachment [my scanners not working ]

[bugjuice]

a bad ass Subaru Impreza SRX wagon. Anyone want to buy it?
utterly rocks for a car, but I gotta let it go..

[mikey]

A 1990 Mazda MX5, blue, ...


get rid of that, unless you work in a beauty salon or some shit

[mikey]

A 1990 Mazda MX5, blue, ...


get rid of that, unless you work in a beauty salon or some shit

[phantom]

I drive a brand new Honda Civic, why, because it's a company car, its free and so is the petrol. Also a Pajero 4x4, why, because my partner and I have a "part time" garden business and we need something to tow a BIG trailer - ever tried pulling a tree out with a bike ( or a featherweight front wheel drive company car ) :whistle:

[Badcat]

get rid of that, unless you work in a beauty salon or some shit
riiiight.......
attitude about mx5s from a 250 owner?
do you see the irony?

[White trash]

- ever tried pulling a tree out with a bike ( or a featherweight front wheel drive company car ) :whistle:

Yep.

About 7 years ago, Johann Bruns (The Peoples hero) thought he'd kindly lend his Mum and Dad a hand in the garden by towing a tree stump outta the ground. On his Bandit.

One instantly fried 1200 clutch and a still rooted tree stump. :killingme

[bugjuice]

my brother had a Pajero. This is 2 hours after he picked it up. :Punk:

[Ixion]

my brother had a Pajero. This is 2 hours after he picked it up. :Punk:

Silly boy. Why did he drive into the soft stuff instead of keeping to the ridges

[phantom]

she who must be obeyed won't let "her" 4x4 go anywhere interesting ( as in dirty ) so I have to resort to doing macho things like pulling trees out of the ground . Hell of a lot more fun than digging the stubborn bas..rds out

[bugjuice]

Silly boy. Why did he drive into the soft stuff instead of keeping to the ridges
beats me. I told him to steer left up the bank well before the sludge, but he panicked and steered down (if anything), then tried to steer up, but too late :doh: Was funny tho, the whole village came out to watch him too. They must have some sort of online forum just waiting for things like this, or text service or something like that.. They just all turned up to watch, point and generally laugh. Me included.

[avgas]

contrary to all thoughts, mx5's arent hairdressers cars - i test drove one with a completely balanced/forged motor, and a massive dose of injectors........was told its was good for atleast 150kw at the wheels......didnt beleive it untill i out raced a modded 300zx on route pkj.....without changing down. lovely handling too. The car was setup like a sleeper (in black :devil2: ), and was taken off a street racer in japan by the cops - and sold to cover his expenses. Let the old man take it for a drive, and he thought it was just as quick as the 1200 daytona he rode 10 mins earlier.
:niceone: my corona is nearly at 300,000 and still ticking over

[Wolf]

Having made it to 34 without needing a car licence, I figure I did well (bike licence at 18, couldn't have afforded it earlier.)

Granddad used to load the whole family onto bike and sidecar - wife and around 3-4 kids but i don't have a bike that'll take a sidecar.

At the moment the car is an '85 Nissan Sunny which runs OK and was cheap to buy. Few cars enthuse me enough to care what we have - so long as it isn't a total PoS. It has two too many wheels but it carries the kids until they're old enough to ride pillion and strayjuliet gets her bike licence...

It has a nice, basic looking engine and no power steering etc -and in that, it is far superior to the Proton "Saga" we used to have (and a right royal fucking saga it proved to be - the final chapter has not yet been written).

A 7- or 8-seater would be better for when Jarrod (Juliet's other son) comes to stay or for long journeys when we need to carry a lot of luggage.

[TonyB]

Main car: Legacy GT twin turbo wagon. Tried the GTB, but it would've rattled my kids teeth out. Having bounced on the front and noticed that it barely moved, I can see why. Incidentally, I tried the same trick with another one and it was softer like my GT- I reckon it was a plain GT with a Bilitztien badge stuck on. When I see families driving around in GTB's, I wonder wether they are the real McCoy or not. They are bloody firm!
Work bomb: Nissan Bluebird wagon.

[dangerous]

I fang around in a 1936 Morris 8 Sports
And what else Dave.... go on show us a pic, please ya cant forget the Moto Guzzi car.... all 850cc of it.

[festus]

AUII XR8..........

[FEINT]

Subaru Legacy B4 RSK, when I bought it (2 years ago) I wanted something 4 door, fair bit of power and 4WD.

I sold my Nissan Silvia for my 636..

[onearmedbandit]

[ducks for cover]Range Rover HSE 4.6, and oh I love it it. When the g/f isn't using it.

[Indiana_Jones]

Cages arn't fun :no:
I like bikes, trains, planes, ships and tanks
but not really cars, it's weird, maybe in time they might grow on me.

-Indy

[Eurodave]

And what else Dave.... go on show us a pic, please ya cant forget the Moto Guzzi car.... all 850cc of it.
Well.... allright then...heres one we prepaired earlier.....and its now out to 1000cc!!

[John]

Well.... allright then...heres one we prepaired earlier.....
Thats so awsome its just not funny!

[dangerous]

Thats so awsome its just not funny!
Aint that the damn truth.................. sweet Dave

[WINJA]

DIESEL VAN HERE, CAUSE ITS CHEAP TO RUN AND GOOD FOR PICKING UP CRASHED BIKES, I DONT SPEED IN A CAR ANYWAY SO AN L3OO IS FINE

[TonyB]

[ducks for cover]Range Rover HSE 4.6, and oh I love it it. When the g/f isn't using it.
Got a horse float too?

[dangerous]

Got a horse float too?
LMAO.... bet ya he has a bloody good mecanic aye :D

[geoffm]

I have a Nissan Avenir 2l Diesel, whose main claim to fame is that is was cheap (ie free - it was given to me when I left my old job) and gets 50mpg of diesel.
'Er indoors drives a AE92 Corolla, with (courtesy of the previous owner) a Lynn Rogers motor, some serious headwork, balanced crank, rods and pistons, featherweight flywheel and a set of 4-2-1 extractors to Lynn's secret recipe. And Koni GP shocks. looks standard, and went damn well before old age and 2 car seats slowed it down a bit.
Geoff

[Ixion]

Well.... allright then...heres one we prepaired earlier.....and its now out to 1000cc!!

Wahooo. Does Mr Morgan know about this ? :niceone:

[onearmedbandit]

Got a horse float too?


LMAO.... bet ya he has a bloody good mecanic aye

Gave up riding Horses years ago old chap, terrible on my back. Doctor said I'd have to give up tennis if I didn't. And I have a very good mechanic thank you very much dangerous, in fact he recently closed up his business and moved in with myself and the lady of the house. Not cheap either I must say, but one must keep ones vehicle in top order, say what.

Actually, despite much mocking the rangie has been faultless. Sure its in getting the suspension sorted at the moment, but I knew that was required when I bought it. Must say travelling to work on these cold mornings with the climate air set high, the heated leather seats warming my body and listening to Jay Z vs Linkin Park through the Harmon Kardon audio is a lot more attractive than dragging the bike out of the shed.

[scumdog]

contrary to all thoughts, mx5's arent hairdressers cars - i test drove one with a completely balanced/forged motor, and a massive dose of injectors........was told its was good for atleast 150kw at the wheels......didnt beleive it untill i out raced a modded 300zx on route pkj.....without changing down. lovely handling too. The car was setup like a sleeper (in black :devil2: ), and was taken off a street racer in japan by the cops - and sold to cover his expenses. Let the old man take it for a drive, and he thought it was just as quick as the 1200 daytona he rode 10 mins earlier.
:niceone: my corona is nearly at 300,000 and still ticking over

Saw a MX-5 in Ch-ch, fitted with late model injected 302 Ford V8 but no outwards changes, nice glossy black and a real 'sleeper'

[badlieutenant]

800$ honda ascot (accord with electric windows) that i got with 200,000kms on it. now has 350,000 kms and doesnt miss a beat or use any oil. well may be 500mls every 7000 - 10000kms. a-b comfortably.

[Ramius]

I might be a little late for this, but oh well..

What do I drive? This laptop
Why? Because nobody will give me their wheels after I wrote mine off!


:whistle:

[XTC]

Ford Falcon AU wagon..... Toyota Estima baby buggy.... Why? Gotta drag the kids around in sumfin.... Plus the ford has a heater for those cold days on the way to work. :)

[TonyB]

Gave up riding Horses years ago old chap, terrible on my back. Doctor said I'd have to give up tennis if I didn't. And I have a very good mechanic thank you very much dangerous, in fact he recently closed up his business and moved in with myself and the lady of the house. Not cheap either I must say, but one must keep ones vehicle in top order, say what.

Actually, despite much mocking the rangie has been faultless. Sure its in getting the suspension sorted at the moment, but I knew that was required when I bought it. Must say travelling to work on these cold mornings with the climate air set high, the heated leather seats warming my body and listening to Jay Z vs Linkin Park through the Harmon Kardon audio is a lot more attractive than dragging the bike out of the shed.
Tennis or Polo- must've been a hard choice old chap.
Good to see your keeping it in top order, hope you didn't buy it from the same dodgy outfit where I got my GT. Rangies are supposed to be bloody good off road- tried it yet?

[mikey]

riiiight.......
attitude about mx5s from a 250 owner?
do you see the irony?


my shitter 250 pisses (literally it does, fork seals never been the same since i started wheeling) over any production car if i know the road etc, an a 1600 mx5 hair dressers car dont come fucken close.

[festus]

my shitter 250 pisses (literally it does, fork seals never been the same since i started wheeling) over any production car if i know the road etc, an a 1600 mx5 hair dressers car dont come fucken close.

I'd love to take you up on that offer pal! :tugger:

The right person behind the wheel in a Subaru/Mitsi Evo (or any decent 4x4 turbo) would give most litre bikes a run for their money mate (on windies)!.....

[HDTboy]

When it's going, I drive a turbo r31 skyline, cause it's fun and it's different

[Lou Girardin]

I'd love to take you up on that offer pal! :tugger:

The right person behind the wheel in a Subaru/Mitsi Evo (or any decent 4x4 turbo) would give most litre bikes a run for their money mate (on windies)!.....

I'd have to disagree.
On a track, the bike will eat the car. Any road car.
On the road, he might keep up (doubtful) until the first lot of traffic.

[Waylander]

Only time I drive a car is when the bike aint working. So at the moment it's a Toyota Corona.

[festus]

I'd have to disagree.
On a track, the bike will eat the car. Any road car.
On the road, he might keep up (doubtful) until the first lot of traffic.

I'll define my argument a little more here.

mikey on his 250 will struggle against a lot of cars, v8's, turbo's etc, on the track, or on the road, anywhere, my argument is, his 250RR would not have the power or top end speed to compete against these types of cars.

Traffic aside, a late model turbo and some of the late model v8's will give most bikes a run for there money, esp in the windies, open road may be a different story. I've pushed bikes going up the parapara several times, ok I know the road and maybe they didn't, but the corning of a car in the right hands can be quicker than a bike I reckon.

[John]

I'll define my argument a little more here.
Traffic aside, a late model turbo and some of the late model v8's will give most bikes a run for there money, esp in the windies, open road may be a different story. I've pushed bikes going up the parapara several times, ok I know the road and maybe they didn't, but the corning of a car in the right hands can be quicker than a bike I reckon.

I took out an infamous TVR (cersumthinorrather), that hangs around whangarei I was racing him on SH14 towards dargaville (nice in fun that road!), they guy drives a speed 6 in the NZ GT1(?) champs - and won the last round.

Anyway I completely made a fool of him :whocares:

And I know Roo and his group did the same (and they had a ZZR250).

So I dont think your point is very valid, but then in saying that I was on the 195 limiter most of the time on the straight bits, But now I'm derestricted I can go find him again and have more fun :yes:

[Badcat]

my shitter 250 pisses (literally it does, fork seals never been the same since i started wheeling) over any production car if i know the road etc, an a 1600 mx5 hair dressers car dont come fucken close.

sorry - i misunderstood the thread..
i thought it was what do you drive, not how big is your dick.
always nice to get dissed by a teenager with a 250 - keeps us old fucks "down with the kids"

you teenagers are great - just for the comedic value.
pull your pants up, and stand up straight, for christ's sake.

oh, and isn't it time you left home? while you still know everything and all....

[cruzer]

Subaru Legacy GTB Twin Turbo :devil2:

[festus]

I took out an infamous TVR (cersumthinorrather), that hangs around whangarei I was racing him on SH14 towards dargaville (nice in fun that road!), they guy drives a speed 6 in the NZ GT1(?) champs - and won the last round.

Anyway I completely made a fool of him :whocares:

And I know Roo and his group did the same (and they had a ZZR250).

So I dont think your point is very valid, but then in saying that I was on the 195 limiter most of the time on the straight bits, But now I'm derestricted I can go find him again and have more fun :yes:

Did you beat him with power and speed, or did traffic assist you?

[John]

Did you beat him with power and speed, or did traffic assist you?
We dont have traffic these ways ;)

Nah, Initially we were the same in acceleration - but I carried way more around the corners, I heard him drifting out alot to hahaha :).

So it was more cornering speed, but by the straight I had about 20sec on him, and that was that.

[marty]

We dont have traffic these ways ;)

Nah, Initially we were the same in acceleration - but I carried way more around the corners, I heard him drifting out alot to hahaha :).

So it was more cornering speed, but by the straight I had about 20sec on him, and that was that.

and then i gave myself a pearl necklace :)

[Timber020]

MX5's are fantastic, well balanced, great to drive, slap on a turbo and rollcage and uprate the brakes and its a fine targa car. I want one!

My 4 wheels are on a Isuzu 4wd 6tonner tip truck. It goes anywhere, and I can knock out stumps with the rear end by backing into them a few times. It also helps pull trees over and drags logs up gullies. But its slow, (its the 4 stroke 250 of 4 wheeled vehicles), empty or full it doesnt seem to matter. Actually my GF took it to do shopping at petone and got all the way there before relising it had a few tonnes on pine on the back.

I do have shares in a lotus 7 replica, its taking a while to come together.

[justsomeguy]

Yup a car will be faster than a bike........ but it will have to be one "mother" of a car......

Notice the kinds of cars that get used in car vs bike comparos??

4wd Porsche 911's

Lamborghini Gallardo's

Mosler MT900's

That's about 1.5 million dollars NZ - give or take...

You string together three bikes worth 1.5 million dollars and I'm sure we'll need a set of McLaren F1's, Enzo's and Koenigzegg's to take them out :laugh:

[John]

Just to re-itterate, it deffinatly sounded like he was trying, maybe it wasnt the guy I thought it was, but I definatly beat him, because he took off when I went to over take him like a kunt, so I was thinking fuck some rich toss thinking his "instantpenisenlarger" was going to beat me, It took about 1min then I was on his tale, and took him in the incredibly tight twisty bit on 14, some might know them, its that 3km, that has the slow sweapers (20kmph/30kmph), I also took out a MR2 on the same road, even ask antallica if you dont beleave me, because he flow past ant and so I gave chase.

The TVR I CANT be sure of thee type, Dont care for british preformanace cars anyway, think it was a purple? or maroony type, couldnt really tell (I'm slightly color blind) It was small like griffen small so I dunno, sure it was a hardtop, it was a male older man driving - so maybe he just didnt have the confidence.

The MR2 was the turbo one (turbocharged 2.0 litre 4 cylinder with 200 hp) and that gave me abit of a run for my money, but I still got past him, even though I wasnt that confident at that time, it was 2 young guys, and when I passed them they gave me the thumbs up.

So dont fucken give me shit :@ I'm not the best rider, but accusing me of lying now thats another thing.

[inlinefour]

Bit more practicle than the sports cars I used to own and yes its well versed in off road use...

[scumdog]

We dont have traffic these ways ;)

Nah, Initially we were the same in acceleration - but I carried way more around the corners, I heard him drifting out alot to hahaha :).

So it was more cornering speed, but by the straight I had about 20sec on him, and that was that.

I think Martys comments summed this little lot up quite well.....

[John]

I think Martys comments summed this little lot up quite well.....

Hey why is it so hard to beleave, this shits abit personal - and cheap, maybe you shouldnt be so quick to jump on the love boat. :mad:

[Sniper]

1979 Toyota Starlet with 1998 S14 Sylia engine transplant
and a
1980 Mazda 323 Hatch with a piston engine built to teach rotaries a lesson.

But then again I spend most my time on the bike

[festus]

Just to re-itterate, it deffinatly sounded like he was trying, maybe it wasnt the guy I thought it was, but I definatly beat him, because he took off when I went to over take him like a kunt, so I was thinking fuck some rich toss thinking his "instantpenisenlarger" was going to beat me, It took about 1min then I was on his tale, and took him in the incredibly tight twisty bit on 14, some might know them, its that 3km, that has the slow sweapers (20kmph/30kmph), I also took out a MR2 on the same road, even ask antallica if you dont beleave me, because he flow past ant and so I gave chase.

The TVR I CANT be sure of thee type, Dont care for british preformanace cars anyway, think it was a purple? or maroony type, couldnt really tell (I'm slightly color blind) It was small like griffen small so I dunno, sure it was a hardtop, it was a male older man driving - so maybe he just didnt have the confidence.

The MR2 was the turbo one (turbocharged 2.0 litre 4 cylinder with 200 hp) and that gave me abit of a run for my money, but I still got past him, even though I wasnt that confident at that time, it was 2 young guys, and when I passed them they gave me the thumbs up.

So dont fucken give me shit :@ I'm not the best rider, but accusing me of lying now thats another thing.

I'll admit to you a little story, heading into Wellington on that new bit of 2-3 lane highway just past Raumati???, anyway a guy in a Merc 500sl or similar with his top down, roared up behind me, so I gave it heaps through that new peice of road doing in access of 250kph (yeah yeah stupid shit I know), anyway, this dude in the 500sl was on my ass all the way, didn't pass me but shite, he was there!, so to hear the stories from you bikers on 250's is like the big fish I caught last summer (it was thiiiiiiisssssss bbbiiiiigggg) :killingme

PS don't get me wrong, the 250's you guy's have a nice bikes....... :Punk:

[mikey]

I'll define my argument a little more here.

mikey on his 250 will struggle against a lot of cars, v8's, turbo's etc, on the track, or on the road, anywhere, my argument is, his 250RR would not have the power or top end speed to compete against these types of cars.

Traffic aside, a late model turbo and some of the late model v8's will give most bikes a run for there money, esp in the windies, open road may be a different story. I've pushed bikes going up the parapara several times, ok I know the road and maybe they didn't, but the corning of a car in the right hands can be quicker than a bike I reckon.


I'd love to take you up on that offer pal! :tugger:

The right person behind the wheel in a Subaru/Mitsi Evo (or any decent 4x4 turbo) would give most litre bikes a run for their money mate (on windies)!.....


ok buddy bring your evo / wrx / v8! any where near wainui or piecock or rimutakas an we will both put $500 in a nuetral persons pocket ie my brother, an give him 10 minutes to get to top of the hill an then ill have a ciggy at the top an maybe a coffee an when you arrive illl take a piss on your car. an if you somehow get passed me, very unlikely ill pull over call my brother an tell him to split an ill get my race suit either way.

so got a wrx evo v8 an 500 ??

[festus]

ok buddy bring your evo / wrx / v8! any where near wainui or piecock or rimutakas an we will both put $500 in a nuetral persons pocket ie my brother, an give him 10 minutes to get to top of the hill an then ill have a ciggy at the top an maybe a coffee an when you arrive illl take a piss on your car. an if you somehow get passed me, very unlikely ill pull over call my brother an tell him to split an ill get my race suit either way.

so got a wrx evo v8 an 500 ??

I was like you once pal, when I was 15 and had my first bike, thought it was the shit and the fastest thing on the block. You'll look back at this someday kid and have a laugh, just like I'm doing now. :killingme

[Badcat]

I was like you once pal, when I was 15 and had my first bike, thought it was the shit and the fastest thing on the block. You'll look back at this someday kid and have a laugh, just like I'm doing now. :killingme

yep.
what he said.

[scumdog]

ok buddy bring your evo / wrx / v8! any where near wainui or piecock or rimutakas an we will both put $500 in a nuetral persons pocket ie my brother, an give him 10 minutes to get to top of the hill an then ill have a ciggy at the top an maybe a coffee an when you arrive illl take a piss on your car. an if you somehow get passed me, very unlikely ill pull over call my brother an tell him to split an ill get my race suit either way.

so got a wrx evo v8 an 500 ??

And he'll do it with the stereo going, heater on, sending a txt and his biggest worry would be spilling his coffee :laugh: :laugh: :killingme

[mikey]

fuck up grandpa you ride a GS1200, obviously got money to get a bigger bike but you buy that........... i might be a kid compared to you gramps..... but anyone thats meet me knows i aint a fukin kid, im a nut.

[scumdog]

fuck up grandpa you ride a GS1200, obviously got money to get a bigger bike but you buy that........... i might be a kid compared to you gramps..... but anyone thats meet me knows i aint a fukin kid, im a nut.

And the cemetery is full of 'nuts' that thought they were fast.... :no:

[mikey]

I'd love to take you up on that offer pal! :tugger:

The right person behind the wheel in a Subaru/Mitsi Evo (or any decent 4x4 turbo) would give most litre bikes a run for their money mate (on windies)!.....


some one start a fucken poll. am i on my own here?

festus needs to be smakcekd into place.

evo / wrx/ v8 against a litre bike? some body please...................

litre bikes beat the best of high performance ferraris/ lamborginies etc.

[mikey]

And the cemetery is full of 'nuts' that thought they were fast.... :no:

no its not. the porirua nut house is full of nutters

[Paul in NZ]

some one start a fucken poll. am i on my own here?

festus needs to be smakcekd into place.

evo / wrx/ v8 against a litre bike? some body please...................

litre bikes beat the best of high performance ferraris/ lamborginies etc.

The only way thats going to happen is in traffic where the bike can get past and the car cannot. (assuming we are talking full spec hi po cars here not some body kitted wanna be)

The conering and braking ability of the car is superior... Sorry, just the way it is... Check out the last results in the Race For The Sky down at the snow farm...

Sure, most bikers are better at using the illegal end of the bikes performance envelope but given a good driver and an empty road. A really fast car should win it.. There have been a zillion car vs bike races on tracks, car usually does it on the twisty ones. The bikes superior acceleration helps but where corner speed is king. back the car...

Not that I care or even know what it would be like to have that much power, just my opinion, experience and research leads me to think this way. In traffic, I'd back the bike..

Cheers

[TonyB]

Before I start, this is not a piss take: Mikey, maybe you should go racing. Seriously, if you can take down a TVR that is trying hard on a freak'n 250 then you must have some talent. I recall many many moons ago a guy in a then new 93ish SS Comode had a go at racing me from about Govenors bay to Lyttleton. I was on my FZ400R, and the bike had a little extra go than the SS in a straight line, but not much. I stayed behind him rather than risk getting run over. The 400 was probably quicker than your 250, and a TVR would be heaps quicker than the Commode. So you clearly have more ability than me. Not that that's saying much...(sigh) Go racing.

[White trash]

Performance bikes did a recent comparo between a heavily wanked WRX, a Gixxer 1K and a GS500.

Interestingly, BOTH bikes fucked the car everywhere except braking.

Seen the results myself.

If anyone thinks they're the gun in their V8 or Hairdressers car, I'll gladly meet them at Taupo for a DRY track battle. No race cars, I'll be on a road bike.

[scumdog]

no its not. the porirua nut house is full of nutters

So THAT'S where you live? :whistle: (for the time being!!)

[scumdog]

Performance bikes did a recent comparo between a heavily wanked WRX, a Gixxer 1K and a GS500.

Interestingly, BOTH bikes fucked the car everywhere except braking.

Seen the results myself.

If anyone thinks they're the gun in their V8 or Hairdressers car, I'll gladly meet them at Taupo for a DRY track battle. No race cars, I'll be on a road bike.

But on a 250.....? :no:

[TonyB]

Performance bikes did a recent comparo between a heavily wanked WRX, a Gixxer 1K and a GS500.

Interestingly, BOTH bikes fucked the car everywhere except braking.

Seen the results myself.

If anyone thinks they're the gun in their V8 or Hairdressers car, I'll gladly meet them at Taupo for a DRY track battle. No race cars, I'll be on a road bike.
Motorcyclist have done at least two comparo's betwixt 1000's and the hottest Corvette money could buy at the time. The first was waaay back in '89 when they lined up the FZR1000EXUP against the 'Vette. The bike wore standard rubber and the car had 'the stickest DOT rated rubber they could find'. The bike won around either Laguna Seca or Willow by a few seconds, but the car was quicker in the bends. Years later they did one with the then new GSXR1000 and the new Vet. Same deal with the tyres, and they got Kevin Swantz to pilot both (he races cars now). The Gixxer kicked ass (this was in the US Hitcher), interestingly the bike had turned the tables on mid corner speed- it cornered significantly faster everywhere except one corner, and that was due to the different lines the bike took to take advantage of acceleration.

This (http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/media/fastfeud/index.php) is a link to an article where they put a standard GSXR1000 and a Crescent Rizla GSXR1000 up againts a bunch of cars. If you read it, remember the RADICAL SR3 TRACKSPORT is a purpose made track day car. It is so low to the ground it would have trouble clearing a matchbox stood on its end. I say try the test again on a real road.

[scumdog]

Remember kiddies, we're talking here about a guy wanting to pit his 250cc bike against all comers!!

[Maximus]

some one start a fucken poll. am i on my own here?

festus needs to be smakcekd into place.

evo / wrx/ v8 against a litre bike? some body please...................

litre bikes beat the best of high performance ferraris/ lamborginies etc.

:bs: :bs: :killingme :bs: :bs:

:Oi: :spudgrr:
Come on mate, is this really necessary? One suggestion for you - "build a fucken Bridge"! :ride:

[White trash]

I can get around Manfield in 1.26 in my SC400 fitted with 245 section, sticky as shit, 18 inch tyres.

The only corner I could carry more speed through in the car than on my bike was the hairpin.

I can do 1.22 on an FZR250.

Nuff said.

[scumdog]

I can get around Manfield in 1.26 in my SC400 fitted with 245 section, sticky as shit, 18 inch tyres.

The only corner I could carry more speed through in the car than on my bike was the hairpin.

I can do 1.22 on an FZR250.

Nuff said.

Ya need a gruntier SC400 - or you need to try harder in it!! :D :laugh: :killingme

[White trash]

Ya need a gruntier SC400 - or you need to try harder in it!! :D :laugh: :killingme

Fuckin 4 liters of premium Japanese technology and engineering mate! :D

Try harder? I spun the thing at 170 going into the sweeper, just after I'd dived up the inside of this wanker in an Integra. Going backwards at the ton, wheels still churnin' forwards on the limiter in second and this spotty yoof with eyes like dinner plates staring at me from the wheel of his Honda.

Funniest race track moment I've ever had, bar none.

[mikey]

Before I start, this is not a piss take: Mikey, maybe you should go racing. Seriously, if you can take down a TVR that is trying hard on a freak'n 250 then you must have some talent. I recall many many moons ago a guy in a then new 93ish SS Comode had a go at racing me from about Govenors bay to Lyttleton. I was on my FZ400R, and the bike had a little extra go than the SS in a straight line, but not much. I stayed behind him rather than risk getting run over. The 400 was probably quicker than your 250, and a TVR would be heaps quicker than the Commode. So you clearly have more ability than me. Not that that's saying much...(sigh) Go racing.


someone else is claiming to take on a tvr not me, when racing no car has ever passed me, i defintetly dont let them passed when they might have more pull but thats part of the game aint it?

they fucking try alright, they just cant keep up anything from wrx to s55 AMGs to an M3 to a xr6 turbo to ss commodoers on the different hills around wellington, wainui, piecock, an rimutakas

an yes i am getting into racing / slowoly/ some wanks wont give me a warrant for my nie an tidy bike.

SITE BONG

[mikey]

So THAT'S where you live? :whistle: (for the time being!!)

no i got out of there. how would i be on a computer you filth

[Badcat]

fuck up grandpa you ride a GS1200, obviously got money to get a bigger bike but you buy that........... i might be a kid compared to you gramps..... but anyone thats meet me knows i aint a fukin kid, im a nut.

keep it up mikey mouse.
i'm laughing my ass off here.
you really should have your own show.

oh look - seems you do.

[scumdog]

no i got out of there. how would i be on a computer you filth

Maybe they have 'puters at Porirua, you turd?

[mikey]

Maybe they have 'puters at Porirua, you turd?

an let nutters on them??? dont be silly

[John]

I was like you once pal, when I was 15 and had my first bike, thought it was the shit and the fastest thing on the block. You'll look back at this someday kid and have a laugh, just like I'm doing now. :killingme
This is one thing I will agree on, I know my bike isnt the fastest but when I know the road better than the car, and want to boogie with a car, most of the time they go abit faster on the straights.... corners are where I get em (supose thats a good thing about the 250's)

But mikey, seriously - I get raped by some cars, and its abit upsetting but they always give me a thumbs up, just cool it man you have nothing to prove we are all bikers.

But seriously I did take out the TVR and MR2 on the same road, I'm not kidding - when I get the tank cam I will try hunt down a similar car and prove it, but anyways.. I have nothing to prove (other than I'm not a lier) - I ride for the enjoyment and practicality.

Most bikes give cars a run for there money, but the real expensive ones should be left to the bigger bikes.

[justsomeguy]

Hmmm...... the oly way to find out for real Jonno is if you get yourself a stop watch and a decent car and decent bike (your ZXR is cool enough).

Then take the car and the bike over the same piece of road and time your self.....

This my bike is faster rant may only mean that you are a fast rider and the others are shitty wannabe drivers...... it does not mean that your bike is faster than their cars......

Case in point: Some big bikes were trying hard to do low 50's around Taupo........ while MR did 51's and 52's on my ZZR, so.........:whistle:

[John]

Hmmm...... the oly way to find out for real Jonno is if you get yourself a stop watch and a decent car and decent bike (your ZXR is cool enough).

Then take the car and the bike over the same piece of road and time your self.....

This my bike is faster rant may only mean that you are a fast rider and the others are shitty wannabe drivers...... it does not mean that your bike is faster than their cars......

Case in point: Some big bikes were trying hard to do low 50's around Taupo........ while MR did 51's and 52's on my ZZR, so.........:whistle:
Good point, I'd be up for it if anyone was keen (I'll ride other can drive) :)... would be interesting?

I wish I could buy your cage, I damn need one to :( (thats sad for more than one reason)

[Hitcher]

Having spent over $1,000 on it in the past two weeks, with another cheque for $470 dollars waiting to be written to insure it, I'm not sure quite why I still own a car. Maybe it's time for the Hitcher household to rationalise the fleet...

Maybe I should buy a Gilera Nexus 500 as a commuter...

[Ixion]

Having spent over $1,000 on it in the past two weeks, with another cheque for $470 dollars waiting to be written to insure it, I'm not sure quite why I still own a car. Maybe it's time for the Hitcher household to rationalise the fleet...

Maybe I should buy a Gilera Nexus 500 as a commuter...

Grr. Don't mention cars and repairs . Bloody things. :mad: I just spent literally *all* afternoon running from one Honda (cage) dealership to another trying to get a ruddy fuel relay. :brick: :brick: Which, if it dies, totally immobilises the car. With no workaround. good design there Sochiro. :mad: Why such a simple thing should need at least 4 different variants I'm blowed if I know. And in the end I had to take one that is not quite right and I and my trusty soldering iron will mod it. grrr and double Grrr

[onearmedbandit]

I think this arguement, which is well off topic, can be sumed up like this:

Some bikes are faster than some cars.
Some cars are faster than some bikes.
Some cars that are faster than some bikes are slower on some surfaces.
Some bikes that are faster than some cars are slower on some other surfaces.
Some bikes that are slower than some cars are somewhat cheaper than some cars are.
Some bikes are slower than some purpose-built race cars.
Some purpose-built race cars are slower than some bikes.
Some people are full of shit.

[justsomeguy]

I think this arguement, which is well off topic, can be sumed up like this:

Some bikes are faster than some cars.
Some cars are faster than some bikes.
Some cars that are faster than some bikes are slower on some surfaces.
Some bikes that are faster than some cars are slower on some other surfaces.
Some bikes that are slower than some cars are somewhat cheaper than some cars are.
Some bikes are slower than some purpose-built race cars.
Some purpose-built race cars are slower than some bikes.
Some people are full of shit.

:killingme :killingme :killingme good one :lol:

[Badcat]

I think this arguement, which is well off topic, can be sumed up like this:

Some bikes are faster than some cars.
Some cars are faster than some bikes.
Some cars that are faster than some bikes are slower on some surfaces.
Some bikes that are faster than some cars are slower on some other surfaces.
Some bikes that are slower than some cars are somewhat cheaper than some cars are.
Some bikes are slower than some purpose-built race cars.
Some purpose-built race cars are slower than some bikes.
Some people are full of shit.

yep - good work.
can we leave it there?

[TonyB]

I think this arguement, which is well off topic, can be sumed up like this:

Some bikes are faster than some cars.
Some cars are faster than some bikes.
Some cars that are faster than some bikes are slower on some surfaces.
Some bikes that are faster than some cars are slower on some other surfaces.
Some bikes that are slower than some cars are somewhat cheaper than some cars are.
Some bikes are slower than some purpose-built race cars.
Some purpose-built race cars are slower than some bikes.
Some people are full of shit.
:killingme Very well put. When all is said and done, bikes and cars are totally different machines, with different strengths and weaknesses. In the real world the biggest deciding factor is probably going to be in the driver/ riders heads. The consequences of a mistake are far more serious for a rider, therefore if he/she has any sense they will not push the limits as hard as the driver would on the road. Plus it takes more skill (and bravery) to ride a bike than to drive a car. Most riders (myself included) are probably not that skilled. Aaron Slight can beat a Radical around the track, but I have a feeling none of us could.

[justsomeguy]

:killingme Very well put. When all is said and done, bikes and cars are totally different machines, with different strengths and weaknesses. In the real world the biggest deciding factor is probably going to be in the driver/ riders heads. The consequences of a mistake are far more serious for a rider, therefore if he/she has any sense they will not push the limits as hard as the driver would on the road. Plus it takes more skill (and bravery) to ride a bike than to drive a car. Most riders (myself included) are probably not that skilled. Aaron Slight can beat a Radical around the track, but I have a feeling none of us could.

Yes, I feel on the same stretch of road if the car driver is equally skilled as the bike rider and both of the machines have equal amounts of performance, then the car will win. Pretty much every time.

[Pixie]

A 1990 Mazda MX5, blue, 1600, completely standard. It's not fast, but I love the top down cruising on a hot day. Got zero boot space, partly since I've got a cd changer in there. Only 2 seats, so not a family car by any means...
Snap! 1993 Blue MX5 aluminium roll cage ,Ohlins suspension ,O.Z.wheels- service vehicle ,just enough boot space for my tools.
Only car that won't bore me to death.I had 15 years of driving aussie tank company cars :puke:
Motor is in the proper place for a roadster. :yes:

[Pixie]

Ah right. Yes. Its completely to do with the cylinder layout.
Start with porsche, this is what is also refered to as a boxer type engine. Take a V6, and squash it flat, so you have 3 cylinders pointing to the left, and 3 to the right, directly opposing each other.

Inline and "straight" is usually refering to the same thing. Just like your typical 4cyl motorcycle engine, thats an inline four (although there are a couple of V4's out there).

As for the W engine configuration, "apparently" its like two lots of cylinders on top of each other (in V's), but I havent actually seen any kind of scheme myself so I dont have a clear picture in my head.
The Volks Wagen engines (modern) are monoblock V's .The cylinders are arranged like so:
. OOO
.. OO
(in the case of a V5)
The cylinders are bored into one casting.
The W configuration engines use two such blocks arranged in a V (confused yet?)
They all use one cankshaft and are half a bore shorter than the equivalent
"normal" V engine of the same number of cylinders.
Are you bored yet? :killingme

[Pixie]

Performance bikes did a recent comparo between a heavily wanked WRX, a Gixxer 1K and a GS500.

Interestingly, BOTH bikes fucked the car everywhere except braking.

Seen the results myself.

If anyone thinks they're the gun in their V8 or Hairdressers car, I'll gladly meet them at Taupo for a DRY track battle. No race cars, I'll be on a road bike.
And a kart will piss over anything on a kart track....

[Motu]

The Volks Wagen engines (modern) are monoblock V's .The cylinders are arranged like so:
. OOO
.. OO
(in the case of a V5)
The cylinders are bored into one casting.
The W configuration engines use two such blocks arranged in a V (confused yet?)
They all use one cankshaft and are half a bore shorter than the equivalent
"normal" V engine of the same number of cylinders.
Are you bored yet? :killingme
Isn't it a bugger when all the great new ideas have been done before the designers mother,or grandmother was born?

Lancia made very narrow angle Vs with a single cyl head for decades,with an angle as low as 13deg and never more than 24deg,starting from 1922. They used the method in everything from the 903cc Ardea up to the big 4 litre V8 Dilambda.

Great ideas never die,they just get reinvented by someone else.

[Kickaha]

And a kart will piss over anything on a kart track....

the right kind of Kart will piss over everything on a big track to,you'd need to be in the 37s bracket at Taupo to beat the superkarts

[gav]

Damn, beat me to it, arent the NZ V8 Supercars running about the same times as the NZ Superbikes, and I think a superkart can lap Ruapuna way quicker again? Hell, I've caught bikes on hills driving either of my Civics (89 LX 1.5 and 97 Ferio) and also been caught by the odd car thats pushing faster than I was prepared to go, pull over let them past and then try and tag along, not always that easy, oh well, good on them. :niceone:

[Kickaha]

Damn, beat me to it, arent the NZ V8 Supercars running about the same times as the NZ Superbikes, and I think a superkart can lap Ruapuna way quicker again?

Superkart at Ruapuna 1.27 Nigel Sheppard in his TZ250 powered PVP
Andrew Stroud on the GSXR1000 1.32 what a slow piece of crap:msn-wink:
both using the same track configuration.

[White trash]

And a kart will piss over anything on a kart track....

Karts aren't cars.

[onearmedbandit]

But they are spelt almost the same, save for a 'k' and a 't'.

[justsomeguy]

But they are spelt almost the same, save for a 'k' and a 't'.

The first time I saw a race kart and was told it would do over 250kmph I was bloody :thud:

[StoneChucker]

The first time I saw a race kart and was told it would do over 250kmph I was bloody :thud:
Dammit, got a great "GixxerKart" video, but it's 13.3MB... Some nutter stuck a 1100cc Gixxer engine into a kart! Total Kart weight = 135kgs

Unbelievable speed and cornering, wouldn't ever try to beat it in a car or on a bike.

[justsomeguy]

Dammit, got a great "GixxerKart" video, but it's 13.3MB... Some nutter stuck a 1100cc Gixxer engine into a kart! Total Kart weight = 135kgs

Unbelievable speed and cornering, wouldn't ever try to beat it in a car or on a bike.

Post it here please:niceone:

[justsomeguy]

Oye people......


Would a Kart with say a 600 engine and appropriate running gear be as reliable as say a motorbike???

I mean could you take it along on say a KB ride??

Legal issues aside.........

[onearmedbandit]

Very cool video. Drifting a short wheelbase kart at what must be over 100km/h. Awesome, but scary. (No protection!!)

[Badcat]

Dammit, got a great "GixxerKart" video, but it's 13.3MB... Some nutter stuck a 1100cc Gixxer engine into a kart! Total Kart weight = 135kgs

Unbelievable speed and cornering, wouldn't ever try to beat it in a car or on a bike.

if it was a gsxr powered Kart - could the owner join Trash's Gixxer club?

[StoneChucker]

CAN you upload 13.3MB files onto here? Might try uploading onto my "website" instead. But I'm on dial-up :killingme . Ok, will do when I'm finished surfing...

[StoneChucker]

CAN you upload 13.3MB files onto here? Might try uploading onto my "website" instead. But I'm on dial-up :killingme . Ok, will do when I'm finished surfing...
After checking, I only have 10MB's of webspace...
I compressed it... down to 12.9MB's :killingme

[justsomeguy]

never mind stoney....... thanks for trying

[Jase W]

I have a car... but its off the road at the moment because i have a bike to get me from a to b (ill only need the car when i go racing (eventually) to tow the bike). Anyways its a 1974 corolla - bright yellow with bling bling wheels. Will make a project out of it one day. one day.

[Gazzar]

I drive a 1997 commodore its the 3.8 v6 and its good for towing and big inside for trips around NZ but it knows how to drink the gas. its a Good car.

[zadok]

2004 Hyundai Elantra HVT. Don't know if you have them in N.Z. Why: well priced, great features and good fuel consumption.
Came with cd/mp3 player as standard as well. mp3 saves a lot of disc changing.

[Marmoot]

literally it does, fork seals never been the same since i started wheeling

somebody better teach this kid how to land...

[surfchick]

car is the slowest 1984 2L petrol 4x4 Hiluc d'cab ute in NZ. why? so i can drive to rimmer's road and have it all to myself. worth the battle with no power steering, nil suspension and no fuel empty light in the end. and at least it's red. :devil2:

[Lou Girardin]

But they are spelt almost the same, save for a 'k' and a 't'.

Same as fart then.

[Lou Girardin]

This car v bike discussion reminded me of the last F1. Schumy had by far the quicker car, 2 secs a lap quicker, yet he couldn't get past Alonso because Alonso had better drive out of the corners. Bikes are the same, no car can accelerate at the same rate in the dry. and you can't pass under brakes or in mid-corner on the road in a car unless you're a total maniac.
I often used to give bikes a hurry up with my MX5, but I do wonder how hard they were trying/how capable they were.

[Rainbow Wizard]

Just in from Pomgolia, it may fly after it has new brakes all round and the VIN gets done. Hey! le Voxan is off the road for a few months so why the hell not?!!!

[Magua]

I've got myself a new car just the other week. 1990 Honda Integra Zxi.
1.6L, Sohc, fuel injected. A lot more fun than my old Capella. Turns out a lot of my friends don't like Hondas. Situation at a party the other week, "People, lets change the topic....Duncan bought a HONDA!".

[Waylander]

Gonna build myself one of these sooner or later, probably later as I need to fix my bike and I want to get a 636.

[unhingedlizard]

Just curious to see how many of ya'll drive as well as ride, and what do you drive?

I, personally, am one of those fair weather bikers. Dont mind riding in the rain but prefer to take the ute if it is lashing down.

[XTC]

I have a Ford Falcon and Mrs xtc has an estima to taxi the kids around in.

[Waylander]

Have a Toyota Corona that I only drive when moving big objects that usually need a trailer. All other times I'm on the bike.

[vifferman]

Just curious to see how many of ya'll drive as well as ride, and what do you drive?
Yeah, I drive, when the weather's really foul, or I have to cart stuff, or I'm going somewhere with my family, or even if I just feel like it. If it's a short trip, like to the local shopping centre, then it's pointless taking the bike, as it takes longer to get geared up than to make the trip.

I used to be the "really staunch, ride in any conditions, biker dude", but then I realised this was just silly, because (a) I didn't enjoy riding in the rain (wet-weather gear was uncomfortable, and the slippery roads make me tense), and (b) it is MUCH more dangerous, and (c) I had a choice of cars to take (Peugeot 306, Peugeot 205GTi, Fiat Punto). Plus I can park in the parking gargre at work for free, so I don't even have to get damp.

While my wet-weather gear is good, and keeps me dry, we hatesss it we doessss. Nasssty little wet weather clothesesssss.
My 'waterproof' gloves are bulky, and if my hands are damp, the lining sticks to them, and the waterproof pants make me slide all over the seat.
Add to that the following negatives: visibility isn't good in wet weather, for both me and other traffic (stupid car drivers with ventilation on "Recirc" and badly fogged-up windows); tyre grip is greatly reduced; I have to dry all my gear out afterwards.
Nevertheless, when commuting, I don't take the car unless it's fairly shitty weather, and as wet days are when the greatest time savings can be made travelling by bike because traffic is usually much heavier, there are plusses to it.

[Lou Girardin]

I enjoy driving the cage when it's not stuck in traffic. But I lurve the bike, even on mornings like this. The elements feel far more personal, like you're in a warm, dry coccoon It makes you feel alive.

[zadok]

2004 Hyundai Elantra HVT
Always use the bike for work no matter what the weather.
The car is more for convenience ep. going shopping, taking the missus out etc.

[Hitcher]

This confession will probably raise the ire of the biker xenophobes amongst us, but here goes:

My name is Hitcher, and I also drive a car. It is an underpowered Subaru 1.8 litre Impreza. However it is disturbingly reliable and great fun to drive. It makes the relocation of such items as groceries and golf clubs considerably easier than the two-wheeled alternative...

[Oakie]

Got a Toyota Corsa (shopping basket powered by sewing machine engine). I always bike to work and at other times it is the first option but we'll use the car when there's a good reason to.

[GROOMER]

i drive :o
'92 girls car. I mean civic :)

[Keystone19]

I have a Jeep and a 4x4 Carib, it's a bit hard to fit skis on the bike plus two kids. Having said that, I'm glad other people don't mind riding in this weather. I was wondering if i was certifiable after actually enjoying this morning's ride...! :yes:

[bgd]

Subaru Outback. Doesn't get used much, main transport is the bike and leisure is a bicycle.

[Juan]

I have a Rover 25... no bloody waranty since Rover went tits up :oi-grr:
we also have a 2.5 turbo diesel Iveco camper/race truck ... for sale....
My wife is a driving instructor with a diesel Mini one

I tend to use the car when late for work.... most days :whistle:

[Beemer]

When I only had the bike for transport I rode everywhere and used to cram as much into my tank bag as I could get, but now I tend to use the car more often than not and the bike is kept for fun. I work from home, so no travelling involved there, and when I do have to work at a fixed location or visit someone to take photos, I have to look professional and therefore take the car. If I am interviewing a motorcyclist or doing anything like that, then I'll take the bike as people are a bit more approachable then!

We live out of town so if I have to get groceries I tend to get a boot full at a time rather than pick up the odd thing on the way home as you do on the bike.

We have a few cars, I drive the Mitsi Lancer GLXi more often than not, while my husband uses his old Ford Laser to commute to work as there is nowhere to park a bike where he works and he isn't keen on leaving his bike where he can't see it.

Oh, and is it raining in Auckland today? Gorgeous day here in Levin, even got washing on the line!

[Mooch]

In Hitchers style ,

My name is mooch and I confess to using London Transport.
In NZ I'm a lattie biker and would normal use one of two Beemers for the daily stuff.
I've used my bike less than a dozen times to commute in the last 3 years but have managed 21,000 kms of pure fun on it during the same period. While we're at it ... I also confess to using a Ducati 748R in near race trim for touring NZ .And it has a pack rack... there I've said ...

(Hopefully spankme doesn't read this and kick me off)

[notme]

Well the Mitsi Legnum (all bling'ed up with KB stickers mind you!) gets taken out when a) the weather is just horridible b) I have to cart band gear around or c) I just feel like it.

It's a totally different experience, driving a big 4WD V6 wagon (sounds good too!) compared to the bike, not better, not worse, but different. Admittedly, when it's a great day and I'm going somewhere in the cage for work or whatever, I often get the urge to open the driver's foor and get me knee down....:ride:

[Motu]

I only ride a bike when I feel like it,only when I'm not working,so that means sundays - it's about 2 months since I last rode my street bike.Otherwise I put a 1000km a week into my diesel Pajero....and my other car is a diesel Nissan Vanette.If you think that doesn't make me a biker - that's fine by me,I've never given a fuck what you think anyway....

[Waylander]

I've never given a fuck what you think anyway....
That right there is what I think actually makes a biker a biker, no matter what they ride/drive.

[eliot-ness]

I'm in a very unusual position. Very rarely drive a car, but I own one.
Ride the bike regularly, but don't own one.
Thanks to a balls up at the registration department the papers for the wife's car came back with my name as owner. Six months later the papers for the latest bike came back with her name on. Her riding days are long gone so she ain't likely to use it. On the other hand I have a shiny, fully optioned, low milage Merc S320 sitting in the driveway. Come trade in time I should be able to get a good deal on a new bike. (or maybe two) Who says there aint a god.

[ManDownUnder]

I usually (98% of the time) ride the RF, but my good lady wife and I (and out 2 kids) share a Subaru Forrester Turbo)

Goes like the clappers too I'll tell ya - for a 2 litre... WOO HOO!

Anyhoo.. *ahem*

It's a family wagon, and being a wagon still has room for kids stuff/luggage in the boot.
MDU

[FROSTY]

I drive whgatever I can steal --hrumph--I mean take from the yard
I actually own a nissan Laurel diesel which is a solid old beastie. and of course my trusty hiace van--hmmm where is that ??

[Ixion]

Drive a Honda Prelude. Just an ordinary one, can't be bothered with fancy cars. If I have to cart something, or drop off a passenger. Or if I have to visit a customer, cos no matter what I do I haven't come up with bike gear that comes across as professional. And an ancient Pajero (the old 2.6L petrol one) that I use to cart heavy / big stuff or pick up broken bikes, or take Mrs Ixion places where roads are not. Or tow things .

And sometimes borrow Mrs Ixion's 1986 Nissan 1300cc Sunny (50000 genuine k's and totally immaculate - which is why I don't borrow it often , I'm scared I might scratch the upholstery). My cars are rough as - well maintained mechanically, and no rust, but they're old and high mileage annd it shows. I don't care , vehicles is transport not art. That's the difference between Mrs Ixion and I.

[TonyB]

totally off subject- turn thy sound up and open page one of this thread..
How?
Why?
Thankyou- normal service will now resume.

[Waylander]

totally off subject- turn thy sound up and open page one of this thread..
How?
Why?
Thankyou- normal service will now resume.
Probably something Spankme did to express his disgust of cager talk lol.

[Biff]

Up until recently I rode my bike to work and when out and about in the evenings. Unfortunately now I have to drop the Bifflings off in the morning, and as they won't fit in my top box, I drive a car to work. It's a 1990 Nissan Primera 2 litre auto. Old, yep - but it's been reliable so far, it's economical, it cost me $1800 at a car auction, and I love pi$$ing off the directors and CEO here by parking in between their German and Italian exotica in my battered up ole machine. Grrrrrrreat fun.

[Big Dave]

My Mrs has an extremely nice car. Late model Mercedes Benz e series - AMG stuff, killer stereo.
I borrowed it once to visit a client in rain like today. Got as far as the traffic in Greenlane - 2km maybe - Emitted a loud 'fuck this' - turned around, went straight back home and grabbed my Thunderbird and haven't really driven or been in it since. (supermarket maybe - but i usually do that on the bike too)

All Cars suck. Motorcycles are life.

[speights_bud]

Mitsi L300 Van, bloody great for carrying the bucket racer around in! Also good for storing all my other crap

[Aitch]

Cos it's big and comfy and I can get all the kids stuff in it!

[WildBoarMouse]

1994 MR2 GT targa top... shit, no point in having more than two seats eh? Closet thing to a go-kart with a boot... and affordable. ;)

[chickenfunkstar]

'91 Diamante.
Its big and comfortable, carry lots of stuff etc.
Sort of the opposite of a bike.
I usually only take it when its wet, too cold, or i'm just going a short distance.
Its also scared of corners.

Costs nearly $100 to fill there days. :no:

[WINJA]

NEW HILUX 2.7 PETROL , CAUSE IT WAS FREE , WHAT A GREAT COMPANY CAR AND IT COMES WITH A FUEL CARD AND THE BOSS SAID I CAN TAKE IT ANY WHERE , I WONDER IF HE MEANS LIKE DOWN THE BEACH AND INTO THE TIDE

[Patch]

A smoky ole Isuzu Bighorn diesel cause I have to tow a large trailer for my rubbish business. Also a Vectra. Why? its much nicer to drive than the bighorn, it accelerates faster than a snail. :yes: and I prefer to chaffuer the family around in it rather than the crappy work wagon.

Driving cages SUCK!!!! especially slow ones.

[SPman]

2004 Kia Rio - coz its what I was given. Decreed by Jeremy Clarkson to be one of the most useless piles of shit on the road - and I'd agree! The vehicle dynamics of a Morris Marina, reliability of a Lada, but its got air con and a CD player, so do I give a toss?. Allowed to take it home but not meant to use it for personal use - Fuck off - they dont pay me enough not to!

[Madmax]

never had a car so im no good for an answer :whistle:

[Pixie]

Oh, and is it raining in Auckland today? Gorgeous day here in Levin, even got washing on the line!
Stupid question
Does the pope shit in the woods?

[Pixie]

Even fun cars like my one will suck the life out of you,and leave you an empty husk,like the things daddy long legs' drop on the floor under their webs.To be blown away by the first breath of wind.
Use them sparingly. :nono:

[LB]

.
.
Much as I love my bikes, cars have their uses.

We've got a 95 Nissan Sentra hatch for commuting and round town stuff. Bought it five years ago at 45,000kms from a dealer and it's now done almost 80,000kms. Runs on the smell of an oily rag and very reliable.

Got a 99 Holden Calais (a VT I think?) for long trips. Leather seats, 10-stack CD, air con and all the bells and whistles. Done about 105,000kms with no probs (had it since new).

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[rfc85]

Trusty old 2.4 hilux (company) and no car-the ex got that- a mazda mpv- it was a top wagon too