Heres a nice track bike

[Quasievil]

Nice TZ250 trackbike, would love this for a play thing, what ya all reckon $4k reserve, I would think its a good deal??
looks mint condition for a 91
just posted it incase a budding future Rossi arse kicker needs a bike to start on the track with.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports-tourer/auction-18236626.htm

[That Guy]

I went through this thought process 12 months ago.

I bought a race bike RGV250 instead though for a few reasons. Roughly we're talking the same money for a 10 year old GP 250 or a RGV/NSR race bike. I chose the RGV because generally being a road bike in the beginning it has a longer tolerance between rebuilds - TZs and RSs need new cranks every 1000kms, pistons every 250 kms etc (or something like that) and as long as its in a mild state of tune the RGV/NSR can go a lot longer between rebuilds. Also parts are a lot more common + cheaper for a RGV/NSR, the they a more tolerant of less than exact jetting. Get the jetting even a little bit out on a GP250 bike and it'll sieze, or at least be a lot more fiddly to get running well.

The main reason for me though was that I wanted to go racing and if I got the TZ I would've been in F2 and up against very fast/experienced racers, and I didn't want to be a danger to me or them. In F3 there are still some very fast riders but is a less steep learning curve than going straight into F2. F2 is something I think you graduate to should you want to after a couple of years experience in F3.

The only other thing is that the RGV is still a converted road bike - half a loom going nowhere etc etc - and the TZ is a puporse built racer - nothing is there unless it needs to be for going fast - so the TZ would bit easier to work on.

If I knew I was never going to race, and was prepared to spend as much time in the garage as on the track, the TZ would be tempting though.

Hope that might help a bit....

[Two Smoker]

I want it :crybaby: i want to get into 250GP.... my mate has a 250GP bike that i mite get out to the track and have a go on :shifty:

[That Guy]

I want it :crybaby: i want to get into 250GP.... my mate has a 250GP bike that i mite get out to the track and have a go on :shifty:

You could handle one no worries. You might even give Motoracer something to think about with one...if it held togehter long enough :2thumbsup

[JohnBoy]

i reckon it would be heaps of fun... just be careful you an't buying a hand grenade. :ar15:

[ktulu]

haha, I wouldn't be so confident about that two smoker, although once that bike is running mint its going to be a pretty decent weapon.

Possibly looking to sell that one myself, its a Ray Clee built RGV 250 was told it set the guy back about 7or 8k to build. needs a bit of tinkering to get it running well again and apparently it dyno'd 65hp at the wheel in its prime. hmmm once my road bike is running well....

[gav]

$4500 for a 14 year old TZ? He's taking the piss isnt he??

[Motoracer]

You could handle one no worries. You might even give Motoracer something to think about with one...if it held togehter long enough :2thumbsupDon't know about that one but in the last AMCC club race, a late model TZ250 was a quicker bike than my GSXR600 in a straight line all the way from 2nd gear till reaching topspeed. Ofcourse cornering it would have to be a hell of a lot easier too.

With the right rider, you can win races in F2 and even F1 on some tracks in club level with a 250cc GP bike.

[That Guy]

Don't know about that one but in the last AMCC club race, a late model TZ250 was a quicker bike than my GSXR600 in a straight line all the way from 2nd gear till reaching topspeed. Ofcourse cornering it would have to be a hell of a lot easier too.

With the right rider, you can win races in F2 and even F1 on some tracks in club level with a 250cc GP bike.

Just winding you up! :innocent:

[k14]

$4500 for a 14 year old TZ? He's taking the piss isnt he??

Nope, thats actually quite a good bargain. Its a proper GP bike, farking fast. Probably not the best bike to learn on though, very powerful, over 70hp and around 100kg dry. Probably not the best value for money in the NZ racing scene, can get a more reliable and cheaper to run F3 bike or for a little more a 600.

Very nice bike though, I know a guy in chch that has a 96 (or so) model and that is a rocket, can't keep up with the top 600 guys but can definately go mid field.

[Two Smoker]

Ive seen a 1998 RS250 for around 14 grand..... I dont think i am capable of a 250GP yet.... as K14 said, they are about as quick as a 600...... the latest top model 250GP bikes are capable of easy 60-62 second laps around Puke (just as quick as a 600)

mmmmmmmm GP bikes.... the ticket into the world racing maybe.......

[gav]

He should take that $3300, its not worth much more than that. 200kms since full engine rebuild, OK so hes due to do at least a set of rings? When were the forks serviced, rear shock etc, how flogged is that chassis, how straight etc. Sure its a GP bike, but this thing would still be very high maintenance, you know a GP bike is stripped and rebuilt after every race? You wanna do that? What class would you be running in? Really for $4500 be better off getting a good ZXR400.....or a late model 125 GP bike, at least it would be competitive.
ZXR400 race bike $4500 ono (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Other/auction-18362790.htm)

[Kickaha]

He should take that $3300, its not worth much more than that. 200kms since full engine rebuild, OK so hes due to do at least a set of rings? When were the forks serviced, rear shock etc, how flogged is that chassis, how straight etc. Sure its a GP bike, but this thing would still be very high maintenance, you know a GP bike is stripped and rebuilt after every race?

AT $4500 I'd say it's on the expensive side but that'd depend on condition and spares

Very few people would bother stripping them after every meeting,250km you do the rings,500km pistons but you can run them longer and if you're lazy you'd leave the rings till then as well,cranks will go over 2000km and are rebuildable in the TZ but not the RS

They are higher maintainence than 4 stroke bikes but because they are a purpose built race bike there's no uneccesary shit getting in your way when it comes time to work on it and the come apart very easily