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SilverGrin
7th February 2008, 19:55
Was reading an article in the paper today of 5 bikes in Invers going missing, including one outside a vehicle testing station.
Any heads from Invercargill know how long this bike was parked before it was swiped?
This sounds pretty organised and worrying.
Also a couple taken in Dunedin last year.

Is there much we can do to combat this?
Mines got a factory alarm, but I usually only arm it parked up at home and along with a taffynackle setup and a locked garage I'm comfortable at night, but if it's gonna go missing while in town...

It'd be the hell shame if I can't ride my bike around without a chain, especially if I upgrade to a big block, which is probably more desirable to them thieving bastards.

The Lone Rider
7th February 2008, 20:05
Hmmm,

put me down for one....

Headbanger
7th February 2008, 20:08
The article I read said the bike was parked for an hour.

No way in hell I would leave my bike unattended on the side of the road for 5 minutes, 1 hour is just giving it away.

Anyway, A monitored alarm on your garage is a good idea, And see if they can set it up so it sends a txt to your mobile as well.

I set mine off the other day and timed the suckers responce time, Must say I was pretty funkin happy with the result.

Subike
7th February 2008, 20:26
not to put a damper on this, but four harleys in 12 months?
How many other brands were also taken in the same time
I dont want to lesson what has happened, but
If it was four suzukis hondas yamahas would that get the same media attention?
I very much doubt it
I agree that one is too many
But I dissagree that it is an organised gang
Would like to see the statistics in the same area for other bike brands as an honest comparison.
Just because its a "harley" it get attention
And I like Harleys dont get me wrong
Is t just perseved that they are mechanical gods or something
Almost and idol?

Sully60
7th February 2008, 20:32
not to put a damper on this, but four harleys in 12 months?
How many other brands were also taken in the same time
I dont want to lesson what has happened, but
If it was four suzukis hondas yamahas would that get the same media attention?
I very much doubt it
I agree that one is too many
But I dissagree that it is an organised gang
Would like to see the statistics in the same area for other bike brands as an honest comparison.
Just because its a "harley" it get attention
And I like Harleys dont get me wrong
Is t just perseved that they are mechanical gods or something
Almost and idol?


You have a point there, but have you ever tried to insure a Harley?

1200custom
7th February 2008, 20:40
getting a harley insured is just as easy as getting any bike bigger than a 250 insured, star insurance is the only company that will look at 95% of bikers

SilverGrin
7th February 2008, 20:43
not to put a damper on this, but four harleys in 12 months?
How many other brands were also taken in the same time
I dont want to lesson what has happened, but
If it was four suzukis hondas yamahas would that get the same media attention?
I very much doubt it
I agree that one is too many
But I dissagree that it is an organised gang
Would like to see the statistics in the same area for other bike brands as an honest comparison.
Just because its a "harley" it get attention
And I like Harleys dont get me wrong
Is t just perseved that they are mechanical gods or something
Almost and idol?

Mate, I own a Harley for better or worse, so I thought I'd get some feedback bike security on this forum - there's probably plenty of Harley vs Racer threads where you can savage Harleys if that's your thing, but that's not what I started the thread for.

Substitute 'bike' for 'Harley' in my post if it helps :rolleyes:

Subike
7th February 2008, 20:44
yeap
did so in 86 with my sporty
via AMI insurance
just tacked it onto my auto insurance no worries
Friggin exspensive but!
Good having a 20 year no claim bonus peroiud :2thumbsup

1200custom
7th February 2008, 20:47
for me its most proberbly coz of my age, 19 with a harley, doesnt happen very often

Subike
7th February 2008, 20:48
Mate, I own a Harley for better or worse, so I thought I'd get some feedback bike security on this forum - there's probably plenty of Harley vs Racer threads where you can savage Harleys if that's your thing, but that's not what I started the thread for.

Substitute 'bike' for 'Harley' in my post if it helps :rolleyes:

Nothing wrong with a Harley of any model
Never said there was
Mine use to live in the lounge and was chained to the floor.
Safer that any garage as far as I was concerned
An my dog slept on a sheapskin next to it
I just think that the Media hears Harley and Its instant headlines
Gives them a false value which causes the idiots who steal them think they are onto good easy money
Cause and effect

SilverGrin
7th February 2008, 21:03
An my dog slept on a sheapskin next to it

Ahh yes, I have the livewire dog too, I just wish it would make my premiums cheaper.

I'm not so sure about media attention though, today I read a single article about 5 bikes that had gone missing, presumed stolen to order, and last years thefts I read about in a recent HOG newsletter.

My point is though, I need to take steps to make sure this doesn't happen to me, and KB seems like a good place to get advice.

1200custom
7th February 2008, 21:18
Ahh yes, I have the livewire dog too, I just wish it would make my premiums cheaper.

I'm not so sure about media attention though, today I read a single article about 5 bikes that had gone missing, presumed stolen to order, and last years thefts I read about in a recent HOG newsletter.

My point is though, I need to take steps to make sure this doesn't happen to me, and KB seems like a good place to get advice.

when i leave my bike in town for any amount of time i lock the wheel to the frame aswell as locking the steering

check out this auction, this is the lock i use and they are impossible to cut through

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Other/auction-139419620.htm

scumdog
7th February 2008, 21:20
Cb and I take the keys out most of the time the bikes are parked out on the street but that's it.

Helmets, jackets etc hang off them - but you tend to judge the neighbourhood you do that in before doing it.

And it's not just down here in my Sleepy Hollow Town either, Hokitika, Rangiora, Ch-ch, Ashburton, Dunners etc too.

Swampdonkey
7th February 2008, 21:26
just yesterday some low lifes had a go at getting a late model softtail.Even when they were confronted they still wanted it,(hows that) they soon pissed off once owners came on the seen.Bit of action in the town, lock up

SilverGrin
7th February 2008, 21:30
when i leave my bike in town for any amount of time i lock the wheel to the frame aswell as locking the steering

I have an Oxford chain and deadlock, but I'm not that keen on carrying it around.


Helmets, jackets etc hang off them - but you tend to judge the neighbourhood you do that in before doing it

Yeah, good call that.
On the way to and from the Vincent, I had no problem leaving the gear on the bikes, but usually I'll try to be within line of sight or thereabouts.
Having said that, there's areas in them places you named that I wouldn't dare leave the bike, locked and alarmed or not.

1200custom
7th February 2008, 21:33
I have an Oxford chain and deadlock, but I'm not that keen on carrying it around


i have saddlebags mounted so its not trouble, i would much rather be safe than sorry, i'd be fucken pissed if my bike got pinched

Headbanger
7th February 2008, 21:35
when i leave my bike in town for any amount of time i lock the wheel to the frame aswell as locking the steering

check out this auction, this is the lock i use and they are impossible to cut through

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Other/auction-139419620.htm


You should never consider anything impossible to cut through.

A powered tool could cut that in a few seconds.

Sure, It would make a few seconds of noise but no one apart from the owner would care or notice.

And you should try and lock your bike to a solid object, People just tip locked bikes onto trailers, or drag em into vans.

Its not even hard work.

SilverGrin
7th February 2008, 21:39
You're right, it's not worth the risk.
It's relative to the time I'd intend to leave it parked I guess.
For short shopping trips I reckon the steering lock would suffice (I have a mate who always - always locks his), but things like dental appointments etc where it's gonna be sitting there for an hour or more, I'm just gonna have to get used to carrying the chain I spose.

1200custom
7th February 2008, 21:40
You should never consider anything impossible to cut through.

A powered tool could cut that in a few seconds.

Sure, It would make a few seconds of noise but no one apart from the owner would care or notice.

And you should try and lock your bike to a solid object, People just tip locked bikes onto trailers, or drag em into vans.

Its not even hard work.

already been tested and it takes 1 min 44 sec to cut through with a angle grinder, but i doubt anyone will consider or even be able to plug in a angle grinder just to cut through a lock in the middle of town, im pretty sure people would know whats going on and alert the police....dont you

Headbanger
7th February 2008, 21:45
already been tested and it takes 1 min 44 sec to cut through with a angle grinder, but i doubt anyone will consider or even be able to plug in a angle grinder just to cut through a lock in the middle of town, im pretty sure people would know whats going on and alert the police....dont you

Right, read my lips.

I could cut through that in seconds with a powered tool, and no one would say anything.

If you wish to donate it I can bring over the cut-off saw and show you.

We can even do it in the main street if you so wish.

Sure it will do some damage, But hey, FREE BIKE ,WOOT WOOT

SilverGrin
7th February 2008, 21:46
A powered tool could cut that in a few seconds.


Dead right. A small petrol powered cut-off saw would probably cut a link or lock in seconds, and chances are any passing public would ignore it.
These dudes are organised, and locking to a solid object is another good tip.

1200custom
7th February 2008, 21:50
Right, read my lips.

I could cut through that in seconds with a powertool, and no one would say anything.

If you wish to donate it I can bring over the cut-off saw and show you.

We can even do it in the main street if you so wish.

its pretty much common sense, if anyone saw somone cutting through a lock in the middle of town (where heaps of shops and people are) with a power tool (incase you didnt know these things make abit of noise) people are going to ring the cops, its not about how fast you think you can cut through it, its about what people would do if they saw it

1200custom
7th February 2008, 21:52
Dead right. A small petrol powered cut-off saw would probably cut a link or lock in seconds, and chances are any passing public would ignore it.
These dudes are organised, and locking to a solid object is another good tip.


what do you mean by locking to a solid abject, couldnt they just cut through the lock

SilverGrin
7th February 2008, 21:53
If I saw someone cutting through a chain, I'd be asking them what the fuck they were doing, but a non-biking plebe is going to walk right past holding his ears and looking the other way.

If the alarm's nutting off on the other hand...

SilverGrin
7th February 2008, 21:55
A solid object like a fence, or a parking meter.
It's not gonna stop a determined bastard with cutting gear, but it'll stop 'em wheeling it off or tipping it onto a trailer.

Headbanger
7th February 2008, 21:59
its pretty much common sense, if anyone saw somone cutting through a lock in the middle of town (where heaps of shops and people are) with a power tool (incase you didnt know these things make abit of noise) people are going to ring the cops, its not about how fast you think you can cut through it, its about what people would do if they saw it

That is just being naive.

People will steal your shit in broad daylight, They will make noise if they feel its required, The (majority of) public will not give a damn and will not get involved.

And yes, I do know they make a noise, Use em all the time.

1200custom
7th February 2008, 22:10
That is just being naive.

People will steal your shit in broad daylight, They will make noise if they feel its required, The (majority of) public will not give a damn and will not get involved.

And yes, I do know they make a noise, Use em all the time.

palmys alot different to the gang riddin wanganui

Headbanger
7th February 2008, 22:18
palmys alot different to the gang riddin wanganui

Whatever asshole, I was giving you some advice,Namely lock to a solid object and don't consider your lock impossible to cut.

Thats all, I have no idea why you would can't handle that, Nor do I care.

1200custom
7th February 2008, 22:21
Whatever asshole, I was giving you some advice,Namely lock to a solid object and don't consider your lock impossible to cut.

Thats all, I have no idea why you would can't handle that, Nor do I care.


that was not to offend you by the way, we moved away from wanganui because of those problems, my uncle still workd their as a cop, and according to them, its pretty much gang riddin

SilverGrin
7th February 2008, 22:40
I didn't mean for a shitfight to break out :eek5:

I know that home alarms can be set up to perform various programmable functions like call phones/cellphones etc, but I wonder if there's anything similar on the market that can be mounted on a bike.

Headbanger
7th February 2008, 22:41
I didn't mean for a shitfight to break out :eek5:



This is Sparta after all.

1200custom
7th February 2008, 22:54
in opinions, anyways if you have the alarm, no many people would expect for a motorbike to have a alarm and im pretty sure that would statle them alittle bit

woodboats
8th February 2008, 06:53
When my wife and I take our bikes overnighting we do lock them but we also cover them.
Not only does it keep moisture off but a cheap cover will "hide" the bike from a passer-by and possibly not allow as much interest in the bike. (it takes more effort to see the brand of your machine)
Even if it helps to keep some of the assessiories hidden from view from the casual walker it is worth the effort.

jim.cox
8th February 2008, 08:10
Was reading an article in the paper today of 5 bikes in Invers going missing, including one outside a vehicle testing station.
Any heads from Invercargill know how long this bike was parked before it was swiped?
This sounds pretty organised and worrying..

Agree, thats a lot of missing bikes - the local market just aint that big


Also a couple taken in Dunedin last year...

There have always been that sort of story associated with Harley's. But this is the first time I've seen anyone try to establish truth to those rumours


Is there much we can do to combat this? ...

I doubt it is possible to stop completely - but the incidence can be reduced


Mines got a factory alarm, but I usually only arm it parked up at home ...

Well that alarm is dick all use to you then. You need to be arming it everytime you leave the bike


and along with a taffynackle setup and a locked garage I'm comfortable at night, but if it's gonna go missing while in town......

I've been wondering about a cellphone based GPS tracker. The technology looks like it is feasible


It'd be the hell shame if I can't ride my bike around without a chain, ...

Agree there too, bro.


especially if I upgrade to a big block, which is probably more desirable to them thieving bastards.

Not that a Hardley is desirable, you understand :)

jim.cox
8th February 2008, 08:28
I didn't mean for a shitfight to break out :eek5:

I know that home alarms can be set up to perform various programmable functions like call phones/cellphones etc, but I wonder if there's anything similar on the market that can be mounted on a bike.

Not an alarm - but this looks useful to me - hardwired into the electrics and tucked out of sight

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/GPS/Boating/auction-139186972.htm

SilverGrin
8th February 2008, 18:40
Ok, found this on the general thread, this looks like the go.

http://www.snitch.co.nz/

$1300 is a lotta cash, but in the scheme of things it's probably worth it, especially as it can be paid off in installments.

AllanB
8th February 2008, 18:59
Those disk brake locks are a good idea. Lots of variations but they lock onto the disk - obviously you cannot ride off.

If you get one get the cable that you attach to the lock and bar so you do not forget :crazy: Also makes them more visible.

They will not stop a bunch of wankers picking it up onto a truck however. :bash:

Where does the stolen HD stuff go in NZ - I read a year or more ago a quote from a cop saying it is most likely broken down and in a container going offshore within a few days. :gob:

AllanB
8th February 2008, 19:02
Forgot to add the pictures :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Bruiser
10th February 2008, 10:30
Ok, found this on the general thread, this looks like the go.

http://www.snitch.co.nz/

$1300 is a lotta cash, but in the scheme of things it's probably worth it, especially as it can be paid off in installments.

I posted a report (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=45898&highlight=snitch) on the Snitch awhile back after fitting one to my Harley. The peace of mind factor alone is worth the $$

SilverGrin
10th February 2008, 19:43
Great report, thanks.