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That Guy
19th November 2004, 11:17
I was thinking the other day about an incident that happened to me a while ago and thought I'd see what you guys thought about it.

Summer is coming, and as we all know this means tar gets hot and soft. Meanwhile your little side stand will happily stab its way into the soft tar and your bike falls over. I use a plate to stop this happening that I carry under my seat, most people have some sort of solution for this.

However, I was at the Paeroa street races (must be 3 years ago I think) and heaps of bikes were there - and a brand new Fireblade did just that over the period of the day. The bike had fallen over onto another which knocked down a third. Three expensive bikes crashed by the sun.

My immediate reaction was to run over and pick them up....but then I thought nope; if I do that I'll get caught red handed and blamed for knocking them over so I left them there. I never saw the owners but they would've been pissed to come back from a days racing to find that. Did I do the wrong thing not helping those guys out? I guess thae damage was already done.

Anyway I guess this is also a reminder that summer is coming and be careful on what surface you park your pride and joy. Hard tar at 10am is not necessarily hard tar at 3pm...

StoneChucker
19th November 2004, 11:29
Thank you That Guy, I hadn't even thought about that, but I'll keep it in mind! :niceone:

I probably would have done the same thing. I am no good at explaing myself, and as luck would have it, would have been "caught". Also, if you put it back up, it could have fallen over again, causing more damage. Only thing is, I don't think batteries like to be on their sides. I find the best way to prevent those sorts of falls, is to stay on your bike, don't stop riding! :Punk:

Blakamin
19th November 2004, 11:42
I just cut a plate at work yesterday for that and grass (show this weekend)

Dunno if i'd touch someone's bike I didnt know... unless I left them a note with my number on it so I could explain...not that I carry a pen....

StoneChucker
19th November 2004, 11:45
You carry paper then?
Or, you could scratch your number on the tank :doh:

bungbung
19th November 2004, 11:50
For emergency use, a squashed flat coke/beer can works great for parking up on soft surfaces.

Blakamin
19th November 2004, 11:50
You carry paper then?
Always got paper...bills, receipts, rollie papers!


Or, you could scratch your number on the tank :doh:
I.....dont....think....so..... :bash:
(and buy some pants)

StoneChucker
19th November 2004, 11:56
Always got paper...bills, receipts
Yeah, all those repair bills from your Ducati dealer. Hey, you could always use your bike's title as paper, it's worth less than those rollies :D:D:D:lol: ;)

vifferman
19th November 2004, 12:27
For emergency use, a squashed flat coke/beer can works great for parking up on soft surfaces.... and great for provoking a lowside when you hit it at the exact moment of tipping in to a corner. :crazy:

That_Guy: the bikes were already down, the damage done. Sure, there might have been some additional fuel or acid (if the batteries weren't sealed) leakage, but the BadThing had already happened.
If you'd picked them up, it would've been perplexing for the owners to return and find three upright bikes with inexplicable falling down damage...

Sniper
19th November 2004, 12:31
... and great for provoking a lowside when you hit it at the exact moment of tipping in to a corner. :crazy:

That_Guy: the bikes were already down, the damage done. Sure, there might have been some additional fuel or acid (if the batteries weren't sealed) leakage, but the BadThing had already happened.
If you'd picked them up, it would've been perplexing for the owners to return and find three upright bikes with inexplicable falling down damage...

Very true, then they would be asking questions for anyone who might have seen something and you could end up with some rather pissed off bikers at your door.

Unless you knew them, then you would get a beating and then have a beer afterwards :bash: :doh:

Blakamin
19th November 2004, 12:42
Yeah, all those repair bills from your Ducati dealer. Hey, you could always use your bike's title as paper, it's worth less than those rollies :D:D:D:lol: ;)
:angry2: :angry2:
funny.... my bike hasnt been in being fixed yet... in fact any of the 3 in the last 6 months are still ShinySideUp.....where be yours??? :spudbooge
think i might just :ride:

StoneChucker
19th November 2004, 13:11
:crazy: Ok, you win :D

They say Tuesday, hopefully, then, I can go ride :ride: :pinch:

Blakamin
19th November 2004, 13:19
:crazy: Ok, you win :D

They say Tuesday, hopefully, then, I can go ride :ride: :pinch:
fingers crossed for ya SC..... gunna come to the show tomorrow?

Motu
19th November 2004, 13:24
My wife used to have a Harley/Aremachi 350 Sprint,it had a sidestand with a spear point on the end - it used to go right through the seal on a hot day.

StoneChucker
19th November 2004, 13:26
I won't be at the show. Enjoy, and maybe take some pics for us if you can?

That Guy
19th November 2004, 13:26
... and great for provoking a lowside when you hit it at the exact moment of tipping in to a corner. :crazy:

That_Guy: the bikes were already down, the damage done. Sure, there might have been some additional fuel or acid (if the batteries weren't sealed) leakage, but the BadThing had already happened.
If you'd picked them up, it would've been perplexing for the owners to return and find three upright bikes with inexplicable falling down damage...

aye, good to see you guys agree......ignoring bikes lying on their side is kind of like sitting at the bar on a hot day an not drinking a free beer sitting in front of you. Requires SelfControl. In fact now that I think of it the beer wouldn't last.

Slingshot
19th November 2004, 13:29
I have thought about this too.

About six months ago I saw a bike that had toppled over in a bike park, I rode straight past it and afterwards I felt terribly guilty that I hadn't stopped and stood it back up.

So after that day, I decided that if I saw it again I would stop and do the right thing. My plan is, when I pull up and park my bike I would make it look like I'd just pulled up, maybe even park on the footpath, my idea is that it will make it look like I've stopped to do the right thing rather than picking it up cause I knocked it down.

PS. If anyone ever finds my bike on it's side I would prefer for you pick it up.

Thanks

Sniper
19th November 2004, 13:32
aye, good to see you guys agree......ignoring bikes lying on their side is kind of like sitting at the bar on a hot day an not drinking a free beer sitting in front of you. Requires SelfControl. In fact now that I think of it the beer wouldn't last.

Hmmm, beer. Yea, but drinking a free beer wont result in bad injuries from drinking it?? :niceone: :doctor: :laugh:

Sniper
19th November 2004, 13:35
PS. If anyone ever finds my bike on it's side I would prefer for you pick it up.

Thanks

I second that. Besides, I have enough common sence to see when someone is doing right, rather than messing with my baby :ride: :Punk: :Playnice:

StoneChucker
19th November 2004, 13:41
Whats stopping someone from knocking it over, and then saying, "nah mate, wasn't me, I just found it like this...".

But then again, isn't it pretty hard to make someone pay for knocking over your bike? When I go out riding, I hardly ever leave my bike out of sight, so it should be ok for me, I hope...

Blakamin
19th November 2004, 13:48
I'd hope someone would pick mine up... wouldnt want oil running into bits where it shouldnt be because its been laying down all day...

so yeah...I'd pick it up and leave a note *note to self, put pen under seat*
(this thread helped me decide i would)

Motu
19th November 2004, 16:00
Came back to a deserted High St late one night to find my bike had been knocked over...but picked up and the battery on the ground beside the bike.The Triton (Norton frame,Triumph motor) had no lock and no ign key,just turn on the gas,kick and go.Ah,the good old days,when crime was what happened to other people.

Jackrat
19th November 2004, 21:02
I wouldn't even think about it,a bike goes down you pick it up.
I've had bikes fall off stands a few times,I'd hope somebody would pick it up for me.
A crushed beer can in the shoulder bag works for me.

bear
20th November 2004, 08:22
But if you're going to pick it up I suppose you should make sure that it's not going to fall over again aye!?! No good picking it up and then it falling over again 15 minutes later and creating more damage. Might need to pack two empty beer cans, one for me, and one for the bike that's fallen.

crashe
20th November 2004, 10:37
for westpac helicopter last year.... a few ppl went over to pick them all up. :ride:

The ground was soft and organisers wanted everyone to park on the grass.... so many objected and parked up on the tarmac... :scooter:

I sometimes carry a piece or wood 5x5 inches square x 3/4 inch thick and that goes under the bike stand.... but cos I dont have the ability to put it under my seat I quite often forget to take it... it usually sits on the lounge chair with all my other bike gear in the lounge...lol I need something a bit better to use and not so awkward to carry... :yeah:

So has anyone got any suggestions.... on what I could use.
Thanks in advance.....

crashe
20th November 2004, 10:39
that I dont always carry a backpack..... so where on a bike could I put something that no one will nick it... and also not be obvious like the pillion seat. :spudwave:

scumdog
20th November 2004, 11:48
Seen quite a few that have a small square of aluminiun to put under the stand, they also have a piece of cord attached to it and hooked over their handle-bar so they don't forget about the plate -plus it makes it easier to pick up the plate when you sitting in the saddle! :niceone:

'Course with an H-D you don't need that sort of shenanigans as they have a fairly wide "foot" on the end of their stand :done:

NC
21st November 2004, 11:03
I just cut a plate at work yesterday for that and grass (show this weekend)

Dunno if i'd touch someone's bike I didnt know... unless I left them a note with my number on it so I could explain...not that I carry a pen....


I just squash a can flat and chuck it under..works in the mud too :)

scumdog
21st November 2004, 11:47
I just squash a can flat and chuck it under..works in the mud too :)

It's funny at a rally site seeing a row of early arrivals sitting on their bikes while one of the group rides around looking for empty cans to pick up and bring back!! :spudwhat:

Skyryder
21st November 2004, 15:54
In these situations leave well alone unless you have some helping hands. On your own you may do more damage and come to grief.

Skyryder

Skyryder
21st November 2004, 15:56
PS

If you can remove any armour from you clothes use that if nothing else avaliable.

Skyryder

SPORK
21st November 2004, 20:07
Without reading this thread, me and Alarumba were admiring his new shiny CBR, and noticed that it had made a nice hole in the asphfalt (sp??) Then we saw the underseat holdy place and thought that a crushed can would go nicely in there. Ahh, don't you just love it how coincedences happen?

Slim
24th November 2004, 11:32
I'm of the "get in there & pick them up" persuasion, but more than one bike toppled onto each other, I'd probably get some assistance. I keep a pen in my tankbag, so leave a note for the owners.


A glove, with the palm upwards, under the sidestand will do the trick too, and quite admirably. And no one's likely to pinch one glove when you've got the other one with you.