Bikes on TV1 this sunday

[ElCoyote]

2:00pm NZ Motorcycle Road Racing Championship – Round 1 – PowerBuilt Tools Raceway.
The arrival of some two wheeled action on the show opens things up today and the first round of the NZ Motorcycling Road Race Championship Series. The Motorcycling Scene in New Zealand is very strong and often forgotten but today we have the very best battling it out on the demanding Ruapuna track.
:yes:

[deanohit]

Bugger, right when I will be at Paeroa watching the real deal.

[k14]

Where'd you get that info from? They are supposed to show all classes but I'm not holding my breath. Does it say how long the coverage is for?

[Japtwin]

Bloody typical, show bike races on the same day as Paeroa. mmmph... bring on Moto GP 08

[ElCoyote]

Where'd you get that info from? They are supposed to show all classes but I'm not holding my breath. Does it say how long the coverage is for?

Coverage from 2:00 until 3:05. Drop David a line and give him you comments in a positive way. We let ourselves down by not giving feedback to the media who then ignore motorsport.

David Turner
Motorsport Producer - ONE Sport
D. 64 9 916 7733
F. 64 9 916 7730
M. 64 21 244 1504
david.turner@tvnz.co.nz

[Big Chim]

Anyone recording this, would be keen to get a copy

[Joni]

Well that kinda sucked.... nice that they showed the big boys, but what about the rest of the classes...:(

[GSVR]

Well that kinda sucked.... nice that they showed the big boys, but what about the rest of the classes...:(

Probably be the same as last year and they will highlight some of the other classes in one of the other rounds.

I'm greatful to see what I saw. Nasty highside for Sam but that wasn't the incident that broke his wrist/arm.

Poor Jason Hulme on the last corner and cartwheeling it.

[Kickaha]

Where'd you get that info from? They are supposed to show all classes but I'm not holding my breath. Does it say how long the coverage is for?

As usual they televise 2 classes and 4 races for 600 and 1000


Probably be the same as last year and they will highlight some of the other classes in one of the other rounds.

We were told coverage of all classes would be shown, so it's piss poor of them not to


Coverage from 2:00 until 3:05. Drop David a line and give him you comments in a positive way. We let ourselves down by not giving feedback to the media who then ignore motorsport.

Done, also asked him about coverage of the other classes

[MIXONE]

Watching Stroudy et al makes me proud to be an Old Fuck:niceone:

[(P)]

boo hoo

wake up guys, do you think 90% of people that go to watch the racing go there to watch plonkers riding around on kids bikes?

NO, they go watch superbikes and 600's.

this may be hard to take , but it is fact.

and another thing..."sidecars" suck.

If they show any class other than the 600's and superbikes on TV that's my cue to go and have a dump.

[Tim 39]

I disagree
why is watching an average 600 race more interesting than the likes of a 125 or F3 race?
in the races shown this afternoon, it became clear very early on that dennis would win. The NZGP for the 125's was more interesting and the F3 one probably was too.
I like watching motorbikes go round corners fast, and very close racing. 125's go round corners faster and race closer than 600s or superbikes.

I'm disappointed that the other classes weren't shown, as it would have been great for our class (125GP) and for the sport, to see young New Zealand kids doing well.

that's my point of view, if you think I'm wrong thats your opinion, this is mine.



boo hoo

wake up guys, do you think 90% of people that go to watch the racing go there to watch plonkers riding around on kids bikes?

NO, they go watch superbikes and 600's.

this may be hard to take , but it is fact.

and another thing..."sidecars" suck.

If they show any class other than the 600's and superbikes on TV that's my cue to go and have a dump.

[(P)]

well Timmy, judging by the crowd reaction at the racing your opinion is a minority. The bank and spectator viewpoints fill for the superbike and 600 races and when they're over the people go and do other stuff (food, have a piss,talk smack about dragging pegs at the roundabout,checkout the bikes in the pits(lots of people look at my gsx) etc).

Sorry, but true.

[sAsLEX]

well Timmy, judging by the crowd reaction at the racing your opinion is a minority. The bank and spectator viewpoints fill for the superbike and 600 races and when they're over the people go and do other stuff (food, have a piss,talk smack about dragging pegs at the roundabout,checkout the bikes in the pits(lots of people look at my gsx) etc).

Sorry, but true.

Well you know what the crowd nearly resolutely said that the biggest loss to Wanganui was the loss of the classic sidecars as the Triumph boys were by far the crowd favourite!

The chaps on the Guzzi outfit were probably the most popular with the crowd that day.

[MIXONE]

Well you know what the crowd nearly resolutely said that the biggest loss to Wanganui was the loss of the classic sidecars as the Triumph boys were by far the crowd favourite!

The chaps on the Guzzi outfit were probably the most popular with the crowd that day.

Unfortunately the swinger on the Guzzi was killed on his Griso riding back to where he was staying around 9pm Boxing Day.Somewhere near Halcombe I think.
Bugger as I really enjoyed their style.

[Joni]

Unfortunately the swinger on the Guzzi was killed on his Griso riding back to where he was staying around 9pm Boxing Day.Somewhere near Halcombe I think.
Bugger as I really enjoyed their style.He was a good friend of mine.... miss you Brett! :hug:

[gav]

well Timmy, judging by the crowd reaction at the racing your opinion is a minority. The bank and spectator viewpoints fill for the superbike and 600 races and when they're over the people go and do other stuff (food, have a piss,talk smack about dragging pegs at the roundabout,checkout the bikes in the pits(lots of people look at my gsx) etc).

Sorry, but true.
Certainly didn't notice that at Ruapuna, were you actually there?

[johnsv650]

didnt mnz state , no prize money this year but tell your sponsors it will have tv coverage of all classes on tv........?????

[(P)]

Certainly didn't notice that at Ruapuna, were you actually there?

No, but i was told this from a very reliable sauce.

[Joni]

sauce.Tomatoe?

I was there and Ruapuna raised its support for all the classes. It was a great weekends racing for all!

[gav]

There is always plenty of crowd interest in all the TT titles for all classes, clearly you were misinformed ........ :(

[k14]

didnt mnz state , no prize money this year but tell your sponsors it will have tv coverage of all classes on tv........?????
Yes exactly that. I for one will be questioning Mr Stewart as to who decided to only put the 600's and superbikes on. Maybe we need a version of the MNZ dictionary? Quite possible "all classes" means only 600's and supers?

[Kickaha]

No, but i was told this from a very reliable sauce.

Obviously you need a new source then as yours is giving you incorrect information

[gav]

So far there has been one screening on TV1? Lets just wait, usually Sky and Prime more indepth coverage and may well show more of the complete package.
Personally I'd like to see the return of prize money especially to some of the smaller classes.

[sAsLEX]

So far there has been one screening on TV1? Lets just wait, usually Sky and Prime more indepth coverage and may well show more of the complete package.
Personally I'd like to see the return of prize money especially to some of the smaller classes.

Yeah and how long ago was the Ruapuna round?


Sponsors want to see there stuff out there in a timely fashion.

[puddytat]

Stop ya farking whinging you lot & be thankful for what ya got...

[sAsLEX]

Stop ya farking whinging you lot & be thankful for what ya got...

Lets celebrate mediocrity! It does seem to be the new black.

[(P)]

Stop ya farking whinging you lot & be thankful for what ya got...

what this guy said

[Ivan]

Well What is real Shitty is I was told prize money has been taken away from all classes to cover the media costs..

AND

They were saying that theres only a few young guys any good,

Well Stuff me Look in the 125 Field at The likes of young Cam Jones he dominating and he showing some skill,

A 125 requires skill to ride fast and to that guy making the comments before I hope you were joking saying that the other classes are slow cause I prefer to differ...........

[gav]

Yeah and how long ago was the Ruapuna round?


Sponsors want to see there stuff out there in a timely fashion.
Quite right, I say increase the entry costs and get live TV coverage! ;)

[Sketchy_Racer]

If people were promised by MNZ that all classes would be televised this year, it shows just how fucking usless MNZ are.

But, if it has all been hear say, then shut up about it.

I know that if i was out sponsorship hunting and i had been informed by MNZ that all classes would be showed (im in 125GP) I would definatly add that to my proposal, and it would probably be quite a important deciding factor for a proposal (to the business)

I wonder if anyone has done so, and has now been let down, making them seem like they made fake promises to sponsors.

oh, and 125's are a shit load faster through corners than those whales (600s - 1000s) which should make them more exciting to watch. Really, the extra straight line speed the big bikes have loses its 'wow' factor real quick. How much fun can you have watching a bike in a straight line.

[BIHB@0610]

boo hoo

wake up guys, do you think 90% of people that go to watch the racing go there to watch plonkers riding around on kids bikes?

NO, they go watch superbikes and 600's.

this may be hard to take , but it is fact.

and another thing..."sidecars" suck.

If they show any class other than the 600's and superbikes on TV that's my cue to go and have a dump.

:Oi:

"Sidecars" are among the most entertaining, crowdpleasing, and awe-inspiring vehicles I have ever had the pleasure of watching. IMHO they look better up on two wheels around a corner than any two-wheeler looks doing a wheely, they drift better than a Nissan Skyline, and only they can entertain so thoroughly with freak-show passengers waving and making ridiculous hand-gestures .....no-one specific in mind .....:whistle:

It's of no consequence to me that the passengers leather-clad arses are so finely displayed either ....

Sidecars ROCK :Punk:

[scott411]

Sam SMiths crash looked real nasty

[scrivy]

I as a rider was told that 'all classes' would get a slice of TV coverage if we all forgo our prizemoney. Well????

It doesnt piss me off too much, cause I get to see it first hand - but what does yank my chain, is when people tell their sponsors that (if they are fast enough) they will feature on TV. The sponsors take their word for it, and also hand over cash as a result. What do the poor bastards that told their sponsors do when they don't even have their class on TV?? Do their sponsors assume they are liars?? Does this break down everyones trust??

[sidecar bob]

Stop ya farking whinging you lot & be thankful for what ya got...

What, Nothing??
An arrangement was made with competitors, where we recieve no prize money in exchange for TV coverage, if the deal cant be kept then we need to start seeing prize money again.

[sidecar bob]

Oh. . ., i see there is an echo in the room, & that without comparing notes, No wonder we make a great sidecar team.
And incidentaly, Planna is biased.

[puddytat]

Well What is real Shitty is I was told prize money has been taken away from all classes to cover the media costs..

AND

They were saying that theres only a few young guys any good,

Well Stuff me Look in the 125 Field at The likes of young Cam Jones he dominating and he showing some skill,

A 125 requires skill to ride fast and to that guy making the comments before I hope you were joking saying that the other classes are slow cause I prefer to differ...........

thats stink if true, & I agree that the other racing on the day was equally as good,& in the case of the 150's & 125's sometimes better,crikey there was some awesome riding there:woohoo:

[scrivy]

Oh. . ., i see there is an echo in the room, & that without comparing notes, No wonder we make a great sidecar team.
And incidentaly, Planna is biased.

echo.... :shifty: echo....

I think your leathers make your ass look fat........ :lol:

[BIHB@0610]

echo.... :shifty: echo....

I think your leathers make your ass look fat........ :lol:

Only his arse Scrivy???? There's more in his leathers that's fat.

But seriously, I hope there's going to be some sort of official explanation provided by the TV powers that be as to why a deal was not carried through. Decidedly suckful.

[sAsLEX]

oh, and 125's are a shit load faster through corners than those whales (600s - 1000s) which should make them more exciting to watch. Really, the extra straight line speed the big bikes have loses its 'wow' factor real quick. How much fun can you have watching a bike in a straight line.

And Kirk keeps putting his body on the line so we get some decent crash action in the 125 class as well!

The dude who highsided out of dipper was also a scary exciting sight, but he was out the next day!

[scrivy]

Only his arse Scrivy???? There's more in his leathers that's fat.

But seriously, I hope there's going to be some sort of official explanation provided by the TV powers that be as to why a deal was not carried through. Decidedly suckful.

Planna, there are certain people on this site that are somewhat depraved. Please be careful not to include 'Inside leathers', 'Fat' and 'Suck' in the same sentence....... :innocent::shutup:

[Kickaha]

And Kirk keeps putting his body on the line so we get some decent crash action in the 125 class as well!


He's good like that, I was hoping that would be shown

[BIHB@0610]

Hey Kick - your arse is mighty HOT too :bleh::bleh: ..... just loving that avatar!!!:2thumbsup:

[Joni]

Hey Kick - your arse is mighty HOT tooIndeed :love:

[scrivy]

Indeed :love:

Get a room!!!!!!!!!:sick:

There's no room on KB for smut!!:innocent:

[Billy]

[QUOTE=(P);1430776]boo hoo

wake up guys, do you think 90% of people that go to watch the racing go there to watch plonkers riding around on kids bikes?

Pretty brave statement coming from someone that rides a motorcycle made out of the useless parts bin at Suzuki Taiwan.One would have to wonder whom you canvassed to gain this valuable information,Down at the local Impulse club no doubt where phrases such as backing it in,burnout and wheel stand are seldom(read NEVER)heard!!Motorcycle roadracing is just that and it takes just as much skill if not more in some cases to ride a 125,streetstock,F3 bike or sidecar on the limit as it does a superbike or 600 and in most cases to the purest the smaller classes and sidecars are more exciting to watch.Still you wouldnt know that cause youre in the dunny having a pump while the good stuff is happening.GSX400X own the racetrack BAHAHAHA

[sidecar bob]

[QUOTE=(P);1430776]boo hoo

wake up guys, do you think 90% of people that go to watch the racing go there to watch plonkers riding around on kids bikes?

Pretty brave statement coming from someone that rides a motorcycle made out of the useless parts bin at Suzuki Taiwan.One would have to wonder whom you canvassed to gain this valuable information,Down at the local Impulse club no doubt where phrases such as backing it in,burnout and wheel stand are seldom(read NEVER)heard!!Motorcycle roadracing is just that and it takes just as much skill if not more in some cases to ride a 125,streetstock,F3 bike or sidecar on the limit as it does a superbike or 600 and in most cases to the purest the smaller classes and sidecars are more exciting to watch.Still you wouldnt know that cause youre in the dunny having a pump while the good stuff is happening.GSX400X own the racetrack BAHAHAHA

Yup, Hes a winner allright. Quite a legend in his own lunchtime.
Its the first time ive seen someone with a higher red bling count than post count.

[(P)]

Its the first time ive seen someone with a higher red bling count than post count.

you aint seen nuthin yet sideshow bob

[(P)]

One would have to wonder whom you canvassed to gain this valuable information,Down at the local Impulse club no doubt

do you have a contact?

[(P)]

I'd say by alot of the posts in this thread that very few of you have actually ridden a superbike.

[Ivan]

Have you raced?????

And have you raced a 125????
These things are BLOODY hard top ride fast..

And the thing is it aint about whoes ridden what bike.

Its to do with the fact that it was said that OUR the racers prize money would be taken away this year for equal TV coverage of all classes.
To me Showing 600 and SBK aint equal coverage and is a crock of shit, The racing was good dont getme wrong you guys did good and I think you will be able to understand were i am coming from.

[k14]

If people were promised by MNZ that all classes would be televised this year, it shows just how fucking usless MNZ are.

But, if it has all been hear say, then shut up about it.

I know that if i was out sponsorship hunting and i had been informed by MNZ that all classes would be showed (im in 125GP) I would definatly add that to my proposal, and it would probably be quite a important deciding factor for a proposal (to the business)

I wonder if anyone has done so, and has now been let down, making them seem like they made fake promises to sponsors.

oh, and 125's are a shit load faster through corners than those whales (600s - 1000s) which should make them more exciting to watch. Really, the extra straight line speed the big bikes have loses its 'wow' factor real quick. How much fun can you have watching a bike in a straight line.

Yep thats the exact problem, I told other people that all classes (including myself) would be on tv after reading the letter mnz wrote on the www.nzsbk.co.nz website a few months ago. I can't seem to find it now but I am 99% sure it said there would be tv coverage for all classes.

Its a bit sad but life goes on. They can't get away making false promises like this. Where do they get off making me give up potential prize money for zip in return. Doesn't sound too fair to me.

[Billy]

do you have a contact?

Yip.You could PM me or acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz

[scrivy]

I'd say by alot of the posts in this thread that very few of you have actually ridden a superbike.

(P)diddy, I think you'll find alot in this thread actually own superbikes, and I know of a few that do 200+ wheelies on their superbikes. Does that make them harder, or more eligible to write about wanting to watch other classes on TV??
Personally, give me over 230hp at the back wheel of a sidecar over a superbike or 600 race anyday.

[(P)]

Yip.You could PM me or acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz

not your contact sherlock. an impulse club contact

[dhunt]

Yep thats the exact problem, I told other people that all classes (including myself) would be on tv after reading the letter mnz wrote on the www.nzsbk.co.nz website a few months ago. I can't seem to find it now but I am 99% sure it said there would be tv coverage for all classes.


This is what I can see http://www.nzsbk.com/news.html


Road racing has made great steps over the last couple of years, and again this year the clubs have again decided to support the road race commission team with its marketing and promotion campaign and we will use this pool fund of money, previously prize money to market and advertise the road race championships through the medium of TV and radio.

Not sure if there was anything more detailed anywhere.

[k14]

Thanks, here we go:

Another first for 2008 will be that with the sponsorship funding we have been able to secure we will be able to arrange for all class’s of the championships to be televised. We anticipate being able to have around 16 to 20 commercial hours of homegrown New Zealand motorcycle racing on TV.

So maybe it is going to air on sky at a later date will all the classes? Hard to know, either way some questions need to be asked.

[svs]

Did anyone record the coverage that was there? I got about 50% of it before the dvd crapped out.

video/dvd/someother random computer format all good.

hopefully the other classes will be on later

[Kickaha]

Where do they get off making me give up potential prize money for zip in return. Doesn't sound too fair to me.

I know of one person who has already contacted MNZ for his prize money as his race class wasn't shown :lol:

[Billy]

I'd say by alot of the posts in this thread that very few of you have actually ridden a superbike.

What would bring you to this conclusion???and while we are on the subject,there arent many bikes that wouldnt be classed as superbikes when compared to your Impulse.Oh and contact for the Impulse club is nonexistent as most of the people in the club are still on the party line and have no number available.However if you ride to the end of your street and turn left then ride as fast as your little superbike will go for 10 minutes youll be there (2nd house on the right).Have a nice day and say hello to your aunty Helen for me.I assume you are related to Helen Clark owing to the fact you both seem to know what the rest of NZ wants

[oyster]

I went to the MNZ site, then www.nzsbk.co.nz to see if there were any answers. Then I e-mailed Jim Tuckerman at media@nzsbk.co.nz Jim I believe is the Road Race media liaison person for MNZ and arranged the TV coverage.

"Hi Jim
Could you please advise coverage of the Nat RR on TV
On Sunday we only saw the 600 and S/Bike classes.
When will Streetstock, 125GP, F3 / Pro-Twin and Sidecars be shown?
Thanks
Regards
Peter Jones

PS There is a quite a good forum discussion at www.kiwibiker.co.nz.
It would be best to post a reply there so people are aware."

His reply, very promptly

"Thanks for your email, as soon as I have broadcast dates for the other programme I will advise"

I replied
"Most importantly, pls confirm that the classes listed will see coverage"

No reply since

Just a note, re Streetstock. (not a championship class) Paul Stewart announced to a large meeting of the class a few months ago that their race(s) will be screened on TV. We had a major class sponsor and carried their stickers prominently. Kiwi Rider a big thanks!

[Bren_chch]

least you got a reply, i've emailed him twice about media and had no reply at all!

[Cleve]

Can we have a torrent of this Sunday's coverage please.
I was at Paeroa and wife forgot to (didn't) record.

[skidMark]

nothing on sky as yet they are still airing greymouth street races on sky sport 2 currently (just highlights)

[Kickaha]

Coverage from 2:00 until 3:05. Drop David a line and give him you comments in a positive way. We let ourselves down by not giving feedback to the media who then ignore motorsport.

David Turner
Motorsport Producer - ONE Sport
D. 64 9 916 7733
F. 64 9 916 7730
M. 64 21 244 1504
david.turner@tvnz.co.nz

I got a reply from him today


I think the production company that has made it for us is doing a longer version for Sky but have to say I am not 100% on that but if so I would imagine that's where the other classes will go. We don't have any say in the classes covered they deal with that and then deliver a package to us.

[gav]

or see post #24! :innocent:

[xr-rider]

So far there has been one screening on TV1? Lets just wait, usually Sky and Prime more indepth coverage and may well show more of the complete package.
Personally I'd like to see the return of prize money especially to some of the smaller classes.


They will have to put prize money in because it takes a bit of money to go racing and to do a season of superbikes it costs about $30500. if there is no money guys can't afford to race and they will get more people with prize money.

[Kickaha]

They will have to put prize money in because it takes a bit of money to go racing and to do a season of superbikes it costs about $30500. if there is no money guys can't afford to race and they will get more people with prize money.


The prize money that used to be piss all so it doesn't really make any difference to being able to afford to race

[BIHB@0610]

The prize money that used to be piss all so it doesn't really make any difference to being able to afford to race

Unless one's entire budget for the Nationals is looooow. Now let me think .... who would fit into that category .......?:whistle:

[scrivy]

Just reading the nzsbk website, I see sidecars aren't even listed as a national class!!! Do we get our share of the TV coverage/prizemoney back again???
Ha ha.......... :shifty:
http://www.youtube.com/nzsbk

[gav]

This is what I can see http://www.nzsbk.com/news.html

Not sure if there was anything more detailed anywhere.

This is listed further down on the site!

There have been many comments about only the big boys getting on TV, well get those bikes tidied up put some work into sponsors and comb those locks as you will now be able to have your hour of glory.

Another first for 2008 will be that with the sponsorship funding we have been able to secure we will be able to arrange for all class’s of the championships to be televised. We anticipate being able to have around 16 to 20 commercial hours of homegrown New Zealand motorcycle racing on TV.

During the winter Brian Bernard has been working away on a add on promotion to the days race programme it will be a competition to win a pillion ride on race day aboard a special purpose built Bernard Racing Super bike at lunchtime.

Paul Stewart

Road Race Comissioner

His contact is listed as this.
Paul Stewart.
Road Race Commissioner and The Boss
paul.s@bwhonda.co.nz

Maybe some emails to him might get a response, especially from the racers waiting for the coverage!