Mac help... again.

[Finn]

Got Mac. Leopard, Intel based machine. Just bought a Mac compatible external USB Hard drive. Click on the install button and...
FUCKEN NOTHING!!!

Okay, forget about some virgin, pimple faced, graduates code... I'll just reformat it as a HD so it looks like a massive storage device (which is what I want).

How the fuck do I do it? Mac's HD Utility doesn't appear to have a simple "Fuck the drive, reformat the bitch" button.

Help please...

[TerminalAddict]

if disk utility can see the drive then :

change the partition type to one, click apply ?

edit: click the partition button

[NighthawkNZ]

I thought MACs were suppose to be easy... and... oh never mind through it out the iWindow and get iOther

[Big Dave]

install what????

Plug it in and it will appear on the desk top.
If not - restart the machine with it plugged in.

then we talk format.

[Big Dave]

I thought MACs were suppose to be easy... and... oh never mind through it out the iWindow and get iOther

They are - unless you think like you are operating a PC.

[Finn]

if disk utility can see the drive then :

change the partition type to one, click apply ?

edit: click the partion button

Hmmm, saw that. Will give it a go.


install what?

Plug it in and it will appear on the desk top.
If not restart the machine with it plugged in.

It appears but as read only.

[Big Dave]

disc utility - format.

[homer]

sounds to me like you should have got a windows system
easy piezy ...i know its windows but hey i dont have time to fuck round with the pc if it cant work it out its out the door

[Finn]

I thought MACs were suppose to be easy... and... oh never mind through it out the iWindow and get iOther

Partitioning the drive as per TA's advice... as I type this. Try doing that with a fucken PC.

[enigma51]

sounds to me like you should have got a windows system
easy piezy ...i know its windows but hey i dont have time to fuck round with the pc if it cant work it out its out the door

You must be very thik then (said with humor)
cause mac is piece of pis compared to drama you have to go through with vista

[homer]

You must be very thik then (said with humor)
cause mac is piece of pis compared to drama you have to go through with vista

No i dont have vista yet not for a while till the programs and softwear catch up

youd be better with xp for a year or 18 months longer yet
Actually at the mo theres like no difference between the 2 types of op softwear

[Finn]

Okay, it's done - thanks. So does "just under a minute" for a 103MB file sound about right? USB2.

[Big Dave]

Okay, it's done - thanks. So does "just under a minute" for a 103MB file sound about right? USB2.

a bit slow maybe.
There are disk tools in the OS - help is your friend.

[Finn]

Correction... just rebooted and copied 2GB of photo's in under a minute. I'm happy with that.

Thanks gentlemen. Muchly appreciated.

[Dave-]

lol mac compatible hard drive....I hope you didnt pay extra for that....

[NighthawkNZ]

Partitioning the drive as per TA's advice... as I type this. Try doing that with a fucken PC.


Why would I want too... :scratch:

[scracha]

Partitioning the drive as per TA's advice... as I type this. Try doing that with a fucken PC.

Eh? Plug in unformatted USB drive into Windoze box. "this drive isn't farking formatted jimmy. Do ye want tae format it?". How easy is that? Use the Disk Management Plugin if you must.

Obviously I'm running Vista Ultimate Scotsman Edition.

Next time get an Ethernet enclosure for yer drive ya tight git.

[Finn]

Eh? Plug in unformatted USB drive into Windoze box. "this drive isn't farking formatted jimmy. Do ye want tae format it?". How easy is that? Use the Disk Management Plugin if you must.

You missed the dozen or so blue screens and 3 rebuilds in-between.

[HTFU]

lol mac compatible hard drive....I hope you didnt pay extra for that....

How did you know ? :(

[riffer]

Was the reason you couldn't write to the drive was it was formatted NTFS?

Macs won't write to an NTFS drive although they can read one.

I've heard it's a licensing issue (ie Apple won't pay $$$ to MS for right to use) but haven't seen official confirmation of that so who knows.


Everything seems to just work for me regardless - mac, windoze, linux. I must be doing something wrong. :pinch:

[Sam I Am]

click on the HD icon then uses "apple and i" keys to get "info" and you can change permisions form read only to "read write"

or just use "disk utility" to Erase disk and format however you like

[Finn]

Was the reason you couldn't write to the drive was it was formatted NTFS?

Macs won't write to an NTFS drive although they can read one.

Yeah, it was formatted as NTFS so a quick re-format did the trick.

[bugjuice]

or just use "disk utility" to Erase disk and format however you like
easiest way, since most drives are sold for PC use. I bought a Seagate FreeAgentPro drive, and that had some good backup software on it, for PC.. just formatted it, and it's all mine..

Finn, you're not a great ambassador for the Mac community, are ya?!

[Finn]

easiest way, since most drives are sold for PC use. I bought a Seagate FreeAgentPro drive, and that had some good backup software on it, for PC.. just formatted it, and it's all mine..

Finn, you're not a great ambassador for the Mac community, are ya?!

That's exactly the same drive I bought.

Sorry for letting the team down. I'm not really worthy of a Mac however, I blame JVC for an HD camera that doesn't work with Leopard & QT 7.4. If it did, none of this would have happened.

[bugjuice]

cool lights on it, huh..?
k, well it is a bit of a unique issue, so we'll forgive you this time..

i want leopard :(
i want the new MBP :(

[Finn]

i want leopard :(
i want the new MBP :(

I got Leopard :innocent:
What's MBP?

Edit: Ah, Macbook Pro

[bugjuice]

I got Leopard :innocent:
What's MBP?

Edit: Ah, Macbook Pro
your copy won't run on my iBook G4 :(
yup, MacBookPro. They're due for updates, so waiting for that. That, and I don't have $4500 to spare at the mo.. but I'm sure my bank does..

[Mikkel]

One thing the PC users can do that Mac users can't... (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant)

[riffer]

Meh. Maddox is a retard.

[bugjuice]

lol..
jealous :bleh:

[scracha]

You missed the dozen or so blue screens and 3 rebuilds in-between.

I've got a PC in the workshop that's been quite happily running XP since 2001 with no hassle whatsoever. BSOD's are usually caused by viruses or cheapo RAM and seem to far more prevalent when teenagers are around.

[Mikkel]

Meh. Maddox is a retard.

Why not send him an email and let him know? ;)

[Big Dave]

One thing the PC users can do that Mac users can't... (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant)


I'll tell you another thing Mac users don't do. Care about that shit.

[bugjuice]

actually, just poking around that site a bit more, he's a cock.

[Mikkel]

I'll tell you another thing Mac users don't do. Care about that shit.

Let me disprove your theorem:

1. You work with images on a professional level.
2. Ergo - you use a Mac.
3. You post in response to my post.
4. Ergo - you care about "that shit".
5. QED ;)

(6. I just acknowledged that Macs are superior for handling images - gather from that what you can.)

[riffer]

TBH there's not a lot of difference in file handling now.

Actually, there's a number of apps available in linux and windows space that handle multipage tiff format - I've yet to see an app (except running in X11 environment) that will do that on the Mac.

Likewise for a G4 compressed bitmap tiff.

It's all about the interface mate. Little things matter. Number one - the title bar always at the top of the screen. I've lost count of the amount of times that I've clicked on the wrong title bar in Windows. Also on the Mac in a dialog box it will say "Do you want to do this?" and the reply options are Yes, No, or Other. On a PC it may not say Yes or No, and it's always inconsistent.

Much more consistent on the Mac.

And so much nicer looking that Aero.

[Big Dave]

Let me disprove your theorem:

1. You work with images on a professional level.
2. Ergo - you use a Mac.
3. You post in response to my post.
4. Ergo - you care about "that shit".
5. QED ;)

(6. I just acknowledged that Macs are superior for handling images - gather from that what you can.)

Care about whining about what platform I meant. What. Ever.
It doesn't make any difference any more. Just personal preference.

[Mikkel]

TBH there's not a lot of difference in file handling now.



It doesn't make any difference any more. Just personal preference.

Indeed, there are good things about the Macs - and you can often get better hardware and better design for less money by going Mac.

Doesn't change the fact that it's one of the great schisms in the modern world ;)

I grew up with DOS and damn I still miss it some times. However, computers - for better and for worse - are much more accessible for the masses these days. I'm still a sucker for old computer games and until recently that was one thing you couldn't hope to do on a Mac. And now I'm pretty much used to XP - no reason to change to Vista or Mac for me.

One thing I don't like about Apple though is the massive marketing trip they're running (iPods, iPhones, iTunes, etc.) I don't like the image, I don't like the message and I don't like smooth metrosexual bullshit that seems to permeate it all. -But hey, that's just me ;)

[Big Dave]

I don't like smooth metrosexual bullshit that seems to permeate it all. -But hey, that's just me ;)

Uh huh.

<img src="http://homepage.mac.com/david_cohen_design/.Pictures/misc2/bob.jpg">

[Mikkel]

Uh huh.

Damn, I wish I could grow stubble like that! :yes:

[Finn]

Damn, I wish I could grow stubble like that! :yes:

I just wish I could grow like that.

[NighthawkNZ]

I've got a PC in the workshop that's been quite happily running XP since 2001 with no hassle whatsoever. BSOD's are usually caused by viruses or cheapo RAM and seem to far more prevalent when teenagers are around.


I haven't seen a BSOD since Win98SE

[RantyDave]

Also on the Mac in a dialog box it will say "Do you want to do this?" and the reply options are Yes, No, or Other.
Well it shouldn't. Dialog boxes on OSX should contain verbs, not "yes, no, cancel" but "save, delete, blow-out-of-arse". This is one of the key things that makes the OSX UI better. Dammit, I'm going to have to use an example again:

"The file is write protected, do you want to cancel saving?"
"Yes; No"

In this case "Yes" means the opposite of what you actually want it to do. Bzzzt!

"The file is write protected, do you want to cancel saving?"
"Don't Save; Save anyway"

Is the right way to do it. Broadly.

Dave

[Mikkel]

I just wish I could grow like that.

Wanna hug glands and think up a workshop on the subject?

;)

[bugjuice]

Well it shouldn't. Dialog boxes on OSX should contain verbs, not "yes, no, cancel" but "save, delete, blow-out-of-arse". This is one of the key things that makes the OSX UI better. Dammit, I'm going to have to use an example again:

"The file is write protected, do you want to cancel saving?"
"Yes; No"

In this case "Yes" means the opposite of what you actually want it to do. Bzzzt!

"The file is write protected, do you want to cancel saving?"
"Don't Save; Save anyway"

Is the right way to do it. Broadly.

Dave
there's a few things that don't follow simple rules, I've noticed.. But I've found more illogical things with Vista than anything else I've ever used. I think it's bordering too many cooks, and not enough 'someone should check everything for consistency..' I think Leopard is better, from what I've seen. But I don't have it yet.

anyway, for you Dave..

[phaedrus]

"The file is write protected, do you want to cancel saving?"
"Don't Save; Save anyway"

Is the right way to do it. Broadly.

Dave
no arguments about this, but what happens if you click save anyway? Since it can't overwrite the file, should it or does it (i don't use a mac, i don't think the right way and they are awkward for me) open the save as dialog?

[RantyDave]

but what happens if you click save anyway?
With any luck it pops up a dialog box with a better example. I was kinda short on inspiration.

Dave

[Big Dave]

That's very good buggy. loololled

[scracha]

One thing I don't like about Apple though is the massive marketing trip they're running (iPods, iPhones, iTunes, etc.) I don't like the image, I don't like the message and I don't like smooth metrosexual bullshit that seems to permeate it all. -But hey, that's just me ;)
Blingo!

Sounds like I'm the only person who actually likes Vista...but there ya go.

[Mikkel]

Sounds like I'm the only person who actually likes Vista...but there ya go.

Can't say I dislike Vista - haven't tried it.

Point is that I can't see why I would want to - XP is reliable, stable and I know it somewhat well by now.

Just like when they introduced Windows 95. I didn't bother installing it until all the new interesting games required DirectX. DOS was faster, more efficient and much more stable.

[Finn]

XP is reliable & stable

Until you turn on your PC.

[Mikkel]

Until you turn on your PC.

Yeah, Kiwiland is notorious for crappy infrastructure and it includes the power grid.


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