Downloading music?

[homer]

Who downloads music on the net either legaly or p2p

i m just curious
and yes i download all i want for free

Are you perpaired to pay for it or not

Im certainly not

This is not a bashing thread ,very simple answers

[Colapop]

Thats bad. you could sucked off by littlesoft for that

[Finn]

Thats bad. you could sucked off by littlesoft for that

$20 bet you've been drinking.

[homer]

$20 bet you've been drinking.

and i have what s the point

[homer]

is the price to buy to expensive ,i say it is
is it the fact your really not getting what youd expect for the purchase ,it is for me . thats why i posted the thread

[Finn]

and i have what s the point

Seems so. I quoted Colapop.

[Bren]

Yeah I download music (and I do pay for it)...but generally if it is stuff I cannot get easily locally...I am a big country fan and the Country music you can get in the stores just aint up to scratch...But I do buy CDs too on occasion

[NighthawkNZ]

W
Are you perpaired to pay for it or not

Im certainly not

heck on average $1 a song... you cheap stake...

[HTFU]

I am a big country fan and the Country music you can get in the stores just aint up to scratch...

Thought country was more the banjos rather than the scratch...ing :apint:

[Finn]

I am a big country fan and the Country music you can get in the stores just aint up to scratch...But I do buy CDs too on occasion

Country doesn't really do it for me but I went to a Garth Brooks concert in Nashville and it was the best concert I've ever been to... by a country mile (excuse the pun)

[Livvy]

I bought Limewire, and it's since paid me back a hundredfold.

I can download all I want and it's legal... As long as the other person bought it!

[karla]

Thats bad. you could sucked off by littlesoft for that

Yeah? :Oops::devil2:

[Colapop]

$20 bet you've been drinking.
Ibet I can kcik youir ass

[Finn]

I bought Limewire, and it's since paid me back a hundredfold.

I can download all I want and it's legal... As long as the other person bought it!

I downloaded the free, light version of limewire then used it to download the pirated full version. Suckers!

[Livvy]

I downloaded the free, light version of limewire then used it to download the pirated full version. Suckers!

Well okay.

I got my Dad to buy me Limewire, then got a pirated Limewire Pro.

So we're pretty much still on the same level.

Dads = the best.

[Gremlin]

I can download all I want and it's legal... As long as the other person bought it!
errr? no its not... by NZ law, you cannot even burn a copy of a CD you have bought yourself.

[homer]

after limewire stuffed the pc i now use bit torrent its way easy
and its way easier to get the programs you want or anything else

you can also see how many people actually have it before you download

[BIHB@0610]

I download songs (via Limewire) of artists I've not listened to before - to see if I like them. If I do, I buy the CD.

For instance, I'd never heard Alison Krauss before, or Eva Cassidy. I downloaded a couple of their songs and now have their CDs on my bookshelf. I don't feel bad about doing this, I think it's sort of like listening to a CD in the music store before you buy it :whistle:

I've been told Limewire's legal (I'm hoping it is!). If it's not I'll re-evaluate 'cause I'm a bit of a stickler for doing the right thing .....:innocent:

[homer]

The p2p programs are all legal it just depends what being sent p2p

[Livvy]

errr? no its not... by NZ law, you cannot even burn a copy of a CD you have bought yourself.

Ah crap. Oh well. I'll keep doing it anyway!


I've been told Limewire's legal (I'm hoping it is!). If it's not I'll re-evaluate 'cause I'm a bit of a stickler for doing the right thing .....:innocent:

So then you'll actually go to the CD Store to listen all day long? :bleh:


The p2p programs are all legal it just depends what being sent p2p

And it's such a huge thing to try and supervise these days, a lot of illegal stuff does get in... Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think many authorities really care anymore. It's not harmful to the population (though maybe to the industry).

[Romeo]

All you have to do is whack this into Google and it's all yours. Takes a bit of hunting around to find the right websites though.


song name (-inurl:htm -inurl:html intitle:"index of" "Last modified") (mp3 | wma | ogg)


OR you could use G2P (http://g2p.org/) - it's a lot safer since it isn't monitored like P2P/BT :]

[CookMySock]

cough, downloading copyrighted material with Limewire is not legal..

I download heaps using torrents. Most of it isn't remotely available in NZ as I listen to alternative radio stations online, and mostly this can't be found in shops.

http://www.1.fm/Stations/X/TuneIn.aspx # alternative rock
http://somafm.com/play/groovesalad # chillout / ambient

Stuff that can be found in shops - I will buy the album if I am REALLY impressed it, because the quality is much better than MP3, and also the artist gets his dues.

DB

[homer]

cough, downloading copyrighted material with Limewire is not legal..

I download heaps using torrents. Most of it isn't remotely available in NZ as I listen to alternative radio stations online, and mostly this can't be found in shops.

http://www.1.fm/Stations/X/TuneIn.aspx # alternative rock
http://somafm.com/play/groovesalad # chillout / ambient

Stuff that can be found in shops - I will buy the album if I am REALLY impressed it, because the quality is much better than MP3, and also the artist gets his dues.

DB

Do you find the torrents are good
ive only just downloaded a few and there good as far as i can tell

[BIHB@0610]

So then you'll actually go to the CD Store to listen all day long? :bleh:




Nope, I'd buy it from Itunes or one of the other digital music stores. It would probably mean I'd just buy all my stuff from something like that, rather than doing what I do now - downloading one song through Limewire then buying the CD. Actually that would be kinder to the planet too - less petrochemicals wasted in making CDs and cases!:Punk::innocent::Punk:

[scracha]

In all seriousness, whether you're using Azureus (my choice), Limewire or whatever......make sure you encrypt your downloads. This is important for 2 reasons.
1) It makes it much harder for the nasty record companies to figure out what you're downloading.
2) Your ISP can't throttle the download.

Of course I may be talking bollocks.

[Mikkel]

Roll on www.piratebay.org - they rock. Apparently Sweden is a whole lot more awesome than most other countries!


I downloaded the free, light version of limewire then used it to download the pirated full version. Suckers!

"...that's the way you do - you get your music for nothing and your kicks for free..." Popular song by dire straits - anno 1984 ;)

[NighthawkNZ]

I bought Limewire, and it's since paid me back a hundredfold.

I can download all I want and it's legal... As long as the other person bought it!

that does make legal to download pirated stuff...

[Finn]

When they start making music again, I'll start paying for it.

[Finn]

In all seriousness, whether you're using Azureus (my choice), Limewire or whatever......make sure you encrypt your downloads. This is important for 2 reasons.
1) It makes it much harder for the nasty record companies to figure out what you're downloading.
2) Your ISP can't throttle the download.

Of course I may be talking bollocks.

How do you encrypt downloads. Also, is it possible to throttle my ISP?

[Dargor]

The issue is that music is art not content.
A person listens to this art and want to appreciate it, they want to listen to more art, and appreciate more of it. Nobody wants to listen to a small collection of art it gets boring. People want to share music and appreciate it with other people.

To recording company's music is content, content to be sold and sold and sold until there is more content to sell.

Even at $1 pr song, if each song is 5Mb it would cost $8000 to full a 40Gb mp3 player. Thats far too much.
And everyone knows record company's take a large cut from each sale.

What we need is a system where everyone has free access to all music with easy access to make small $1 donations to the artists. People would donations because there so small and in the end musicians should end up with decent money. (if everyone in the us gave $1 a year it would be more money)

ps. If anyone gets a chance to listen to Richard Stallman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman) talk, do, he's the man. ^ his idea.

[Teflon]

How do you encrypt downloads. Also, is it possible to throttle my ISP?

Download 'U torrent'. The best Bit Torrent client, and it gives you lots of options, including encryption.

Torrents here: http://www.mininova.org/ (no porn)

[CookMySock]

Do you find the torrents are good
ive only just downloaded a few and there good as far as i can tellwell, my daughter showed me limewire which is a lot faster, but yes there is plenty of content in torrents.

If you really like an album, and you have quality audio gear, then do buy it.. the audio is much clearer.


DB

[Teflon]

If you really like an album, and you have quality audio gear, then do buy it.. the audio is much clearer.


DB
yeah i agree. I have a few SACD's and DVDA discs.. bliss on the right system. CD's and mp3 just don't compare

[Hitcher]

Who downloads music on the net either legaly or p2p

i m just curious
and yes i download all i want for free

Are you perpaired to pay for it or not

Im certainly not

This is not a bashing thread ,very simple answers

Instead of downloading music, try downloading some punctuation and a spell checker.

[homer]

Instead of downloading music, try downloading some punctuation and a spell checker.

thats off topic

[Trow]

The problem is that the authorities are not monitoring the download but rather the upload you do from any bit torrent client or limewire... this in the end will be the undoing of any copyright protected material downloads and they are watching. NZ is becoming a bigger target everyday.
What you want is the ability to download without uploading. this does 2 things, stops the authorites from pinging you on illegal content and 2. save's a bit of your bandwidth (at least a 1/3 of whatever you download) The solution for me has been rapidshare. sign up for an account ($10 a month) and download all the content you want without losing bandwidth! simple.

[homer]

The problem is that the authorities are not monitoring the download but rather the upload you do from any bit torrent client or limewire... this in the end will be the undoing of any copyright protected material downloads and they are watching. NZ is becoming a bigger target everyday.
What you want is the ability to download without uploading. this does 2 things, stops the authorites from pinging you on illegal content and 2. save's a bit of your bandwidth (at least a 1/3 of whatever you download) The solution for me has been rapidshare. sign up for an account ($10 a month) and download all the content you want without losing bandwidth! simple.

That sounds the most sence i've heard for ages , ......oops i need punctuation aparently.


Is that ok
if not it takes to long
That's not aimed at you .

That sounds cool ill look it up

[HondaLad]

I use http://digirama.co.nz Locally owned & operated, easy to use and I know I'm getting a good quality track. I've got the means to pay for it, why add to the problems the music industry is suffering by ripping it for free :(

[karla]

thats off topic

But seriously funny :laugh:

[Dargor]

The problem is that the authorities are not monitoring the download but rather the upload you do from any bit torrent client or limewire... this in the end will be the undoing of any copyright protected material downloads and they are watching. NZ is becoming a bigger target everyday.
Have better bandwidth (i know this is hard in nz).
Apart from the bandwidth you "waste" it really doesn't hurt you at all, and if every one uploads a little bit, it can save heaps on server costs.

[homer]

But seriously funny :laugh:

I guess to ,i thought it was funny

[Animal]

...I'd never heard Alison Krauss before...

Surprisingly, very few people have heard of Alison Krauss and Union Station - or Bluegrass, then they saw that hilarious George Clooney movie, "Brother Where Art Thou".

I found a fantastic website called "Michael Jonathan's Woodsongs Old Time-tadio Hour" a few years ago. Yeah, it's a bit of a mouthful, but here's the story: It' an online radio station that features only Bluegrass. They have an archive with well over 450 past broadcasts, all of which feature one or two Bluegrass artists.

You scroll through the archive list and find an artist or band that appeals to you, and play it at your best modem speed. Like you're doing with Limewire, it gives you a chance to see if you like it before buying the CD. That's what I've done.

The link is: http://www.woodsongs.com/showlist.asp

Check out Chris Thile (broadcast 416) if you want to hear the most amazing mandolin playing imaginable. He leads an amazing band called Nickel Creek.

You're not going to find anything by Alison Krauss and Union Station though. I enquired about this and was told it's something to do with Rounder Records, Alison's label.

Okay, back on topic!

[homer]

ok cool sounds like a something that all the labels should do

I spoke with a fella last night from L.A.
He actually was saying in SOME cases the exploitation of music actually does some good .
For example ,he said about a few of his local bands ,they would do small gigs and not get noticed.
Once they got a recording and then people hear it ,all of a sudden they start to copy it and distribute it ,all of a sudden the record label is missing out .

Guess i dont need to explain when the rest goes
all of a sudden there a known band

He also was saying thats its near impossible to get air time on the radio ,over there apparently you dont just get air time ,you have to be known before you will get any at all .You then more a less go on a waiting list

[scracha]

The problem is that the authorities are not monitoring the download but rather the

Thus my thing about ticking the little box marked "encrypt". Also a good idea to limit the number of upload slots available.


NZ is becoming a bigger target everyday.

Mwaha. Not with our slow broadband speeds and pityful data allowances.



What you want is the ability to download without uploading. this does 2 things, stops the authorites from pinging you on illegal content and 2. save's a bit of your bandwidth (at least a 1/3 of whatever you download) The

Then it's not really peer to peer file sharing is it? 10 bucks a month...pah. If the music industry had a brain they'd be partnering up with ISP's to offer the sort of service you're talking about. Xtra movie plan...download 50GB of movies a month. etc etc.

[SPman]

I've downloaded 1000's of tracks over the years - hell - I've even bought CD's (if I could find them), of artists, whose work impressed., Napster (the original), Audiogalaxy (long ago shafted), and Soulseek, have been my main weapons of musical insemination.
Am I repentant, downloading all this "free" music and doing the recording labels out of a bit of money? Fuckoff!
There's not a lot of obscure '30s Bulgarian folk music being released through the major labels, these days.
And the "client" with 135,000 blues tracks and videos on his computer, hasn't minded in the least, with the 1000 or so tracks I've downloaded.
Or the chap with several hundred pre 1910 recordings on his.
So - the RIA can attempt to sue me if it wants, but , frankly, I don't give a shit!

[Trow]

Hmmm, I think you would be surprised how much the Authorities are watching Nz, regardless of our slow bandwidth, I know a few people who have had the cease and dissist letters from distribution company's... albeit at the moment they are only scare tactics, but it does give you an idea of what's in the pipe line.

yeh, each to there own though.. I download a bit but I still buy CD's and DVD's from time to time.

[NighthawkNZ]

Instead of downloading music, try downloading some punctuation and a spell checker.

nowaymancouldntdothat

[Hitcher]

yeh, each to there own though..

Their own. Down Trow.

[Gremlin]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think many authorities really care anymore. It's not harmful to the population (though maybe to the industry).
I'll feel free to correct ya... they very much do care. Last bust was a big one, they had a large pile of the all the stuff, etc etc. The ones they really target are the ones doing it for a business. Far better gains and impact that way.

That said, I don't think a judge would agree, if you said, nah, I only broke the law a little bit, its hardly worth me getting into trouble :laugh: