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CookMySock
17th February 2008, 18:58
Ok I should have a radar detector because, well, you know why..

Can I have some "this works for me" type ideas please ?

Is it worthwhile considering a front and rear facing detector or just front ?

Should I put a set of super-bright red LEDs on my dash ? Put a beeper inside my helmet ? Both ?


TIA,
DB

emaN
17th February 2008, 19:03
don't be in a hurry to hand over wads of cash just yet bro...
might pay to sit tight n see what develops re the whole 'making radar detectors illegal' thing.
for now, git on down & boogie! ;)

Hitcher
17th February 2008, 19:25
Try wrapping yourself in aluminium foil. That absorbs radar spectrum emissions.

The Pastor
17th February 2008, 19:26
hard system Expensive but it works

HornetBoy
17th February 2008, 19:28
Yea wit for a couple months until the radar detector law thingie passes or not ,otherwise you could take advantage of the outlets discounting the prices on thie detectors and buy now ...:2thumbsup

front and rear detectors cost a frickin shyt load ,what price range you looking at ?

Swoop
17th February 2008, 19:31
Have a play with the "Search" button and you will find plenty of info here.

CookMySock
17th February 2008, 19:32
illegal, pfft. I'll conceal the bugger.

Price, well if only forward-looking is practical, then they shouldn't be pricey at all.

Ally foil ay, do I twist the ends shut tightly ?

DB

madandy
17th February 2008, 19:32
Flashinglights? Extraloudspeakers?
Not necessary with a Bel. Volume goes plenty loud enough & mounted above the dilas its right in yer face anway.
If the law makers do become complete sweatyballlickingassholes & ban RD's, or the possiblity of that happening makes you hessitate, and you simply MUST have one for your might sowellhung gt650 look to a hardwired, hidden set-up.

puddytat
17th February 2008, 19:34
Yep it sounds like they're going to ban the things....I got a Beltronics RX65 hardwired into me bike with a set of modified T.V headphones in my helmut..these have the advantage of a built in vol. control which amplifies the alert which I couldnt of heard with the bud type/non vol. control ones you get with your walkman type gadgets. The only problem is forgetting to unhook 'em when getting off the bike.... theres lots of info here, try a "search".

sAsLEX
17th February 2008, 19:35
Try wrapping yourself in aluminium foil. That absorbs radar spectrum emissions.

No silly, aluminium reflects.

He needs to dress in rubber to absorb.

<img src=http://images.google.co.nz/url?q=http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/images/gimp.jpg&usg=AFQjCNGivzM98Guv6xgIF8AqQqGZQY0LQA>

HornetBoy
17th February 2008, 19:39
illegal, pfft. I'll conceal the bugger.

Price, well if only forward-looking is practical, then they shouldn't be pricey at all.

Ally foil ay, do I twist the ends shut tightly ?

DB
doesn't matter if they detect you with it , no matter how much you have concealed it they will more than like still fine you for it(it wouldnt be very effective if your concealing it anyway) ,but the leway period if this law comes into play will be 6months plus so thats enough time to flog it out on trademe.

upwards of $500 ,you wouldnt really want to go anwhere below that ,otherwise youll only be detecting tractors and auto open doors :blank:

CookMySock
17th February 2008, 19:44
doesn't matter if they detect you with itsuck!! so they are going to use detector detectors ?

DB

HornetBoy
17th February 2008, 19:56
suck!! so they are going to use detector detectors ?

DB

yea well that would be my guess aye ,i mean why else would they bring in a law like this if they cldnt patrol it .. they do it in america in the states where these are illegal ,mind you its new zealand so they might only just pull you up by chance or by instincts .. or if they see the suction cups on your cage windows...not sure how they will catch it on a motorbike if they dont have a detector detector ..

CookMySock
17th February 2008, 20:02
geez then I'll have to find a NEW location for the detector detector detector.. :blink:

DB

HornetBoy
17th February 2008, 20:02
geez then I'll have to find a NEW location for the detector detector detector.. :blink:

DB

yes.. id say its going to get like that eventually ,wouldn't be suprised

they muck ya around anyways ,if you have got the money to spare go for it

twotyred
17th February 2008, 20:03
mind you its new zealand so they might only just pull you up by chance or by instincts .. or if they see the suction cups on your cage windows...

all the more reason for EVERY law abiding citizen to put an empty black box suction cupped to their window ... lets waste some more of their time seeing as they are so bent on wasting it on the highways rather than on catching criminals..

HornetBoy
17th February 2008, 20:06
wasting it on the highways rather than on catching criminals..

well seeing as alot of crimes are committed on the road -drunk drivers ...etc dont mind if they catch them people,wouldn't want them plowing me off the road

but i see what ya mean.

the other thing is if you buy an expensive enough detector then it will not be able to be detected by the police,something like that would cost you $1000+ id say (looking at the latest ones that say undetectable eg they do not leak a signal that can be detectd)

Swoop
17th February 2008, 20:17
suck!! so they are going to use detector detectors ?
Who cares? Get an STi and peace of mind.

the other thing is if you buy an expensive enough detector then it will not be able to be detected by the police,something like that would cost you $1000+ id say
Not quite true. The Bel STi is the best unit on the market at the moment and is undetectable. It is also quite nicely priced...

sAsLEX
17th February 2008, 20:19
Not quite true. The Bel STi is the best unit on the market at the moment and is undetectable. It is also quite nicely priced...

You wanna bet?

I bet I could detect it with some of the kit at work. It more than likely is little different to other detectors.


Ever wonder how the vans could detect tvs without licenses?

HornetBoy
17th February 2008, 20:20
Who cares? Get an STi and peace of mind.

Not quite true. The Bel STi is the best unit on the market at the moment and is undetectable. It is also quite nicely priced...

... well its priced at $850 but id have to disagree that the sti is the "best" i would put my money with a V1.8 for the vote at best at this point in time.

i would look at ebay if you going to pay that much for a radar detector,in my opinion, NZ tuned means nothing but someone who has changed the pop2 and all the rest of the settings to nz specs (which u can do very easily) so why pay $850NZ when you can pay something like 400-500 nz from ebay

twotyred
17th February 2008, 20:21
well seeing as alot of crimes are committed on the road -drunk drivers ...etc dont mind if they catch them people,wouldn't want them plowing me off the road


well that makes the ceaseless revenue collection ok then...:yawn:

HornetBoy
17th February 2008, 20:25
well seeing as alot of crimes are committed on the road -drunk drivers ...etc dont mind if they catch them people,wouldn't want them plowing me off the road


well that makes the ceaseless revenue collection ok then...:yawn:

of course not ,but if everyone was left to their own devices and sped around without speed limits being policed then you would be asking for a change of prioritys towards this.

Defiant
17th February 2008, 20:27
Pfft.....if the law passes or not doesnt matter......just conceal it with an external sensor mounted inside your park light housing. then you need an indepentdant on/off switch somewhere easy to reach but out of site. Then you use the "huh???? what detector you must have picked up the car behind me or something officer?....check again......", Its gonna be another stupid law...what bout the new cars that have auto safety protection for GPS they slow the vehicle when you go too far over the limit when turned on? and they intend to ban those too......Geeze that means they might have to recall half the governments fleet of limos and polly's cars.

Get a front mount mount heaps cheaper and you gonna be using it more on the open road anyway cause we know you dont intend to speed in 50 zones Aye!???....lol..

Swoop
17th February 2008, 20:28
You wanna bet?
I bet I could detect it with some of the kit at work.
We are talking about the public servant's being "possibly" issued a cheapo detector device, that is already being used overseas. This has been proven not to detect the STi. I posted a link to these tests in one of the detector threads. All the top detectors (including the Valentine) were put up against the usual radars and detector-detectors.
Only one was worth investing in. Longer detection range (handy for instant-on on other vehicles some way up the road) and immune to RDD.

... well its priced at $850 but id have to disagree that the sti is the "best" i would put my money with a V1.8 for the vote at best at this point in time
See above. Your choice.

HornetBoy
17th February 2008, 20:30
Pfft.....if the law passes or not doesnt matter......just conceal it with an external sensor mounted inside your park light housing. then you need an indepentdant on/off switch somewhere easy to reach but out of site. Then you use the "huh???? what detector you must have picked up the car behind me or something officer?....check again......", Its gonna be another stupid law...what bout the new cars that have auto safety protection for GPS they slow the vehicle when you go too far over the limit when turned on? and they intend to ban those too......Geeze that means they might have to recall half the governments fleet of limos and polly's cars.

Get a front mount mount heaps cheaper and you gonna be using it more on the open road anyway cause we know you dont intend to speed in 50 zones Aye!???....lol..

but the concealing part is the part where it will most fail ..as you would be obstructing the radars view i would think .. woulnt that decrease the effectiveness of it ?

i think if your going to get one put it behind your screen and make use of it fully ,as i dont think they would be able to spot a detector on a bike unless they had one of these detector detectors..

sAsLEX
17th February 2008, 20:43
but the concealing part is the part where it will most fail ..as you would be obstructing the radars view i would think .. woulnt that decrease the effectiveness of it ?


Point to the main radar below.

<img src=http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/horizon/images/Type45_7.jpg>


well you cant as its covered, and if it works for the RN!?

homer
17th February 2008, 20:52
since theres always a fix to everything

example :radar = radar detector
:radar decector = radar decectors

Do we then need a radar dector and another device to detect the radar detectors the police may have with them to detect the radar detector that you have .

puddytat
17th February 2008, 20:56
Dont forget that they tend to keep the finger off the "trigger" till they spot a likely target...dont tend to get much if any warning at all unless they've flashed someone else, & often its the mufti's...:buggerd:

CookMySock
18th February 2008, 07:17
but the concealing part is the part where it will most fail ..as you would be obstructing the radars view i would think .. woulnt that decrease the effectiveness of it ?no. Behind your screen or behind your fairings - makes no difference. Plastic is transparent to microwaves. The main thing is not to inadvertantly refocus the beam (dont put it in a headlight) or put it too low so it can't "see". It will only report what it can "see", and microwave energy is more like light than other radio frequencies - especially 30GHz.


i think if your going to get one put it behind your screen and make use of it fully ,as i dont think they would be able to spot a detector on a bike unless they had one of these detector detectors..yeah this is looking like the go, under the cowl somewhere and remote the warning lights. The other thing to do is once you have a solid warning is to turn the unit off.

DB

HornetBoy
18th February 2008, 07:25
so what types of detectors did you have in mind so far eg bel ,valentine etc

babyblade250rr
18th February 2008, 07:29
Hey i've got an escort passport x50 with a rain protector that mounts on he yoke, also using a h.a.r.d system which is fookin brilliant picks up front and rear everytime!

babyblade250rr
18th February 2008, 07:30
by the way don't most good radar dectors i.e escort,bel,valentine has some sort of VG2 undetectable thingy?

HornetBoy
18th February 2008, 07:35
by the way don't most good radar dectors i.e escort,bel,valentine has some sort of VG2 undetectable thingy?

true,but if the govt give the go ahead to this law then id say they will have some kind of instrument to combat that.

CookMySock
18th February 2008, 07:40
so what types of detectors did you have in mind so far eg bel ,valentine etcwell I previously had no idea, it is good to hear some top brands mentioned. I'm tempted to trial some cheapies and report my success or otherwise here though.

DB

HornetBoy
18th February 2008, 07:42
well I previously had no idea, it is good to hear some top brands mentioned. I'm tempted to trial some cheapies and report my success or otherwise here though.

DB

yea,id give the passport x50 or the x65 a go mate ,they are fairily priced and are meant to be bloody good range wise

Slicksta
18th February 2008, 08:00
true,but if the govt give the go ahead to this law then id say they will have some kind of instrument to combat that.

This has been happening in the states for years. VG2 as i understand it works for now (http://www.radarbusters.com/2005vg2testingarticle.cfm)

kiwifruit
18th February 2008, 08:17
I've got a bel rx65 with a hard wire kit and a screamer for sale, offers.

TerminalAddict
18th February 2008, 11:27
I've got a bel rx65 with a hard wire kit and a screamer for sale, offers.

mmm I'm interested in the screamer ...

CookMySock
18th February 2008, 13:53
I've got a bel rx65 with a hard wire kit and a screamer for sale, offers.pics, more detail etc ?

DB

kiwifruit
18th February 2008, 14:03
pics, more detail etc ?

DB

bel 65;
http://www.radar-detector-shop.co.uk/products/bel-rx65.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?searchType=all&searchString=bel+rx65&x=0&y=0&searchRegion=100&type=Search

http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=0xF&q=bel+rx65&btnG=Search&meta=

screamer;
http://www.motorcycleradar.com/products_pg2_4.htm#Radar%20Screamer

http://www.radardirect.co.nz/new/motorbike_radar/SCREAMER/index.html


its all used but no longer required
good working condition etc

bucket boy
18th February 2008, 14:08
Are you selling the 110kph limiter

kiwifruit
18th February 2008, 14:10
Are you selling the 110kph limiter

62mph limiter, no use having a 110kmh limiter.... thats over the open road speed limit

no, sorry, its not for sale

TerminalAddict
18th February 2008, 14:35
will you sell the screamer separately ?

CookMySock
18th February 2008, 14:39
hrm, outa my price range m'fraid

DB

TerminalAddict
18th February 2008, 18:46
am I on kiwifruits ignore list perhaps?

kiwifruit
18th February 2008, 19:04
hrm, outa my price range m'fraid

DB

i wouldn't be selling my second hand unit at rrp


am I on kiwifruits ignore list perhaps?

awwwww! you'd be doing well mate :lol:
i'd like to sell the lot together, but make an offer if you like :)

kiwifruit
19th February 2008, 06:47
radar sold, screamer available

pritch
19th February 2008, 07:05
Ever wonder how the vans could detect tvs without licenses?

TV Aerials on the roof of the house? :whistle:

I think you'll find the vans were for detecting illegal transmitters not receivers.
Like the guy I used to know who had a CB set capable of reaching from West Australia to NZ in good conditions. His set was in a vehicle and he operated "mobile". Probably from the top of a hill where he could see for miles...

I thought all detectors "looked" behind as well as to the front, mine does.

Detectors should hopefully work out of the top of a tank bag but I guess we'll see. Might have to shell out for a HARD...

madandy
19th February 2008, 08:11
Can anyone show evidence that the pollies ARE going to ban RD's ?

Swoop
19th February 2008, 08:15
Can anyone show evidence that the pollies ARE going to ban RD's ?

It was a proposal, released at the end of 2007.
2008 will be "discussion" year, and with an erection being held later in the year, our politician's will be concentrating on that.

madandy
19th February 2008, 08:17
yeah. no need to panick then people...all this talk of detctor detectors gives me the yips.

pritch
19th February 2008, 12:56
Well, we can all sit around posting to KB about the detector ban but that won't actually achieve v f much. Or we could send an email to Harry Duynhoven whose little rush of shit to the brain this was.

Harry was quoted in the paper as saying he was prepared to take the backlash. What we need to show him is that the backlash may be bigger than he thinks.

No, I haven't emailed him yet, I was also going to point out his other perceived shortcomings as Minister. The difficulty is I don't know where to stop...

BiK3RChiK
19th February 2008, 14:52
Well, we can all sit around posting to KB about the detector ban but that won't actually achieve v f much. Or we could send an email to Harry Duynhoven whose little rush of shit to the brain this was.

Harry was quoted in the paper as saying he was prepared to take the backlash. What we need to show him is that the backlash may be bigger than he thinks.

No, I haven't emailed him yet, I was also going to point out his other perceived shortcomings as Minister. The difficulty is I don't know where to stop...

Heh! He's your local boy...!!!!:laugh:

sAsLEX
19th February 2008, 16:20
TV Aerials on the roof of the house? :whistle:

I think you'll find the vans were for detecting illegal transmitters not receivers.


Nope.


Super-heterodyne receivers require a Local Oscillator at the frequency of interest to separate the wanted signal from the carrier. This LO would also emit from the antenna used to pick up the incoming signal, and it is this that the vans would detect.

<img src=http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/navy/docs/es310/SUPERHET.JPG>

Ixion
19th February 2008, 16:54
I thought all detectors "looked" behind as well as to the front, mine does.

Detectors should hopefully work out of the top of a tank bag but I guess we'll see. Might have to shell out for a HARD...

Most have a rearward "window" but it's less effective than forward. Only the Valentine shows the signals separately , I think.

Mine works fine in the map pocket of the tank bag, haven't tried it in the "inside", but the GPS receiver works OK there so I think radar would. No metal in the way is the rule.

Ixion
19th February 2008, 16:56
Nope.


Super-heterodyne receivers require a Local Oscillator at the frequency of interest to separate the wanted signal from the carrier. This LO would also emit from the antenna used to pick up the incoming signal, and it is this that the vans would detect.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/navy/docs/es310/SUPERHET.JPG

Yeah , it's the scatter from the LO emittance that radar detector detectors pick up on. However, the mind of man is ingenious :whistle:

sAsLEX
19th February 2008, 16:57
Yeah , it's the scatter from the LO emittance that radar detector detectors pick up on. However, the mind of man is ingenious :whistle:

Yeah there are ways around it......... maybe the military would know of a way?

Ixion
19th February 2008, 16:59
Bah, if I had access to military resources, I just fit a missile system.

sAsLEX
19th February 2008, 17:05
Bah, if I had access to military resources, I just fit a missile system.

Why do you need military resources?

A ram jet is easy to make, as is a simple powder powered jet.

Microprocessors and servos are cheap, and Inertial Navigation and GPS systems mean any motivated civilian could build something accurate to a couple of meters with any range they wanted.......... but who would do that?

Ixion
19th February 2008, 17:11
Yes, yes, all well and good . but the warhead, what about that? That's the important bit. And it's not like you can get nukes at Bunnings y'know. I asked them , and they don't stock them.

breakaway
19th February 2008, 17:14
Re Radar detector detectors

I thought radar detectors were a passive devices and thus undetectable?

sAsLEX
19th February 2008, 17:23
Yes, yes, all well and good . but the warhead, what about that? That's the important bit. And it's not like you can get nukes at Bunnings y'know. I asked them , and they don't stock them.

Ek = 1/2*m*v^2


Re Radar detector detectors

I thought radar detectors were a passive devices and thus undetectable?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1434777&postcount=54

Ixion
19th February 2008, 17:26
Harrumph. Have you tried to buy weapons grade plutonium, or even just ordinary old household enriched uranium lately ?

EDIT: If anyone does have a source for the above, please let me know.

Gremlin
19th February 2008, 17:31
I bet I could detect it with some of the kit at work. It more than likely is little different to other detectors.
While it scares me that you have pictures of rubber suits on hand... I just happen to have a unit you could test against, if you have ready access to your gear. Promise to keep a safe distance from me, and I'll bring my toys to play :yes:

If RD becomes illegal, no doubt they would follow some australian states, where they use RDD devices such as stalker III, and as someone pointed out, the bel sti driver is not detected by them. sti driver is the US name, its rebranded something that slips my mind, out here.

CookMySock
19th February 2008, 17:43
This LO would also emit from the antenna used to pick up the incoming signal, and it is this that the vans would detect.aha you work for the moc :buggerd:

Technically, all superhet receivers emit some of their local oscillator. So these radio devices must meet some technical standard ala c-tick. If they DO meet this standard then they are legal. If they DO NOT meet this standard then they are NOT legal.

If the unit is a bona-fide receiving device with bon-fide approval then the unit is "A c-tick approved receiver", and thus is NOT a transmitting device. It is not against the law to operate a receiving device of any type in NZ.

If the units' LO emission levels place it in the category of a transmitting device (whether it transmits anything meaningful or not) then it should be classed, approved, and licensed as such.

All IMO, YMMV. Rock on.

DB

pritch
20th February 2008, 14:30
Nope.
Super-heterodyne receivers require a Local Oscillator at the frequency of interest to separate the wanted signal from the carrier. This LO would also emit from the antenna used to pick up the incoming signal, and it is this that the vans would detect.


I used to know a couple of guys that worked in that office and they were strictly 8.00AM to 4.35PM, five days a week. In those days there wouldn't have been that many people using TV at that time.

As far as I know they didn't even drive that station wagon with the df aerial on the roof.

Ocean1
20th February 2008, 14:32
any motivated civilian could build something accurate to a couple of meters with any range they wanted.......... but who would do that?

http://www.interestingprojects.com/cruisemissile/

:shifty:

Ixion
20th February 2008, 14:53
Bastards.

But he never solved the warhead problem either. No point in a missile that doesn't go BANG.

I suppose one could jack up some crude chemical thing, of low yield, but that's so amateur. Nukes are the professional way to go, just sourcing is such a PITA.

Ocean1
20th February 2008, 15:29
Bastards.

But he never solved the warhead problem either. No point in a missile that doesn't go BANG.

I suppose one could jack up some crude chemical thing, of low yield, but that's so amateur. Nukes are the professional way to go, just sourcing is such a PITA.

Eh, nooks is sooo last century. Put Brucie's 10kg in orbit with minimal reserve fuel and you can chuck it anywhere within a few thousand klicks of it's orbit shadow. Seen what a few Kg of carbon steel shaft at terminal velocity can do to an armoured column?

Won't do it with a pulse jet though, and sourcing LOX or anything useful for orbital insertion will attract the same attention. Rocketry as a hobby in the western world is somewhat limited nowadays because Uncle Sam has locked all his toys up.

Ixion
20th February 2008, 15:42
A bit over the top though, an orbital insertion just to avoid a speeding ticket, don't you think. Got to be practical, don't cha no.

Ocean1
20th February 2008, 15:48
A bit over the top though, an orbital insertion just to avoid a speeding ticket, don't you think. Got to be practical, don't cha no.

You started it! :oi-grr:


Besides, OTT is WAY more fun than practical. Practical is what Mother wanted for us, to be avoided for that reason if nothing else.

Ixion
20th February 2008, 15:58
Well, true. OK then, so everyone's agreed. Orbital missile is the way to go (only if they do ban radar detectors, though).

We know we can manage the vehicle. All we need to source are suitable negines, fuel and a nuke warhead.

And, it occurs to me that Mr SaSlex probably has access to all that sort of stuff. Or at least to places where it's kept.

And knocking off the quartermaster's stores is a fine old navy tradition All we need to do is twist his arm.

sAsLEX
20th February 2008, 15:58
Seen what a few Kg of carbon steel shaft at terminal velocity can do to an armoured column?

<img src=http://www.popsci.com/files/imagecache/article_image_large/files/articles/tech0604rods_485x500.jpg>


Rods from God. PGS of the future!

Swoop
20th February 2008, 16:07
I suppose one could jack up some crude chemical thing, of low yield, but that's so amateur. Nukes are the professional way to go, just sourcing is such a PITA.
Pah! Why bother with nukes? Go for something that can really do some damage.
Put SARGE in the missile!
Errr, 'ang on. He'll probably want to ride on top whilst having a pint of rocket-fuel and a ciggie.:Punk:

Ocean1
20th February 2008, 16:15
Rods from God. PGS of the future!

Wonder what's the minimum mass, prob depends on drag, CSA. Couple of grams is prob enough for the task at hand...


All we need to source are suitable negines, fuel and a nuke warhead.

They don't have a warhead, at those speeds a fair amount of the mass is converted directly to thermal energy. Literally just a solid steel shaft with guidance fins.

Ixion
20th February 2008, 16:30
Meh. Might as well just stick with the old trick of tossing a bolt behind y'. Only difference is the guidance fins.

crash99
20th February 2008, 16:38
Ok I should have a radar detector because, well, you know why..

Can I have some "this works for me" type ideas please ?

Is it worthwhile considering a front and rear facing detector or just front ?

Should I put a set of super-bright red LEDs on my dash ? Put a beeper inside my helmet ? Both ?


TIA,
DB

Then there's the school of thought that all detectors (as opposed to jammers) are an absolute waste of money cos by the time you know there's one there then the chances are that "they" :Police: will already have you locked on . . . false sense of security and all that. If ya wanna speed, just speed. And keep (both) your eyes wide open !!!!! :Playnice:

CookMySock
20th February 2008, 17:02
Then there's the school of thought that all detectors (as opposed to jammers) are an absolute waste of money cos by the time you know there's one there then the chances are that "they" :Police: will already have you locked on . . .What school of thought is this ? Is this opinion backed up with fact ? Can you give some hard numbers on these "chances" ? It sounds like you haven't actually used a detector, because *mostly* you get ample warning way way up the road, with little K band beeps and blips well before you run into a massive wall of microwave energy - a dead giveaway that theres something ahead. It's rare to run *hard into* a microwave trap, *unless* its a 45 degree low-power speed camera - these give you only a second or two warning if they are positioned correctly.


If ya wanna speed, just speed. And keep (both) your eyes wide open !!!!! :Playnice:I don't speed, but I pass, and its perfectly trivial to hit 125k before I'm back in, and consequently its perfectly trivial to run right into a radar unit. I don't want to, and won't, kill someones teenage kids on account of my stupidity.

DB

cuppa
21st February 2008, 20:07
I have just fitted an Escort x50 with heads up unit, to my zx10.Total cost and this included mounting bracked (second hand),plastic cover,wiring loom,H.A.R.D,and radar unit was $1000.Have recovered some of the cost already by detecting the plod on the way to Paeroa last week end.Dont worry about flashing LEDs or speakers mounted in your helmet go for the H>A>R>D system:done: Cuppa

grogan
21st February 2008, 20:15
geez then I'll have to find a NEW location for the detector detector detector.. :blink:

DB
You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads! :headbang:

TerminalAddict
26th February 2008, 21:34
got the screamer today .. thanks kiwifruit !!!!

I'd like to know how other screamer owners don't get embarrassed by sooooo much noise

ipod1098
27th February 2008, 09:40
got the screamer today .. thanks kiwifruit !!!!

I'd like to know how other screamer owners don't get embarrassed by sooooo much noise

Just flick the switch!! Or make the radar auto mute.

TerminalAddict
27th February 2008, 11:11
or is it some kind of status symbol?

"look at how big my penis is, and how loud my radar is" :blip:

SVboy
27th February 2008, 11:45
Dont know what Terminal Addict is on about. I use an earpiece with my Bel65, and it has paid for itself easily inside a few months. Yes, they are little protection from a cop doing "instant on", but have picked up speed cameras and cops cruising with radar on all the time. I feel naked without it!

TerminalAddict
27th February 2008, 15:57
dude .. have you heard a screamer plugged in to a radar detector?

Can be heard from MILES away !!

I never had any luck with helmet speakers, or ear pieces .. hopefully the screamer should be heard at super sonic speeds :D

kiwifruit
27th February 2008, 16:15
I have another screamer for sale, PM offers

It was on my zx10 when i binned it at the track, the beeper part is cracked but works ok
the rest of it is undamaged (wiring, relay thingie etc)

can get pics if wanted

All
29th February 2008, 15:35
Fairly soon, radar detectors are becoming illegal anyway, right?

Biggles2000
1st March 2008, 09:41
I have a bell XR9500 mounted behind the screen out of the weather. I can hear it OK up to 130kph, which is about as fast as I ever go. So far it has been 100% reilyable with no false warnings.

yomikey
2nd March 2008, 19:51
I have an sti with a helmet earpiece. Does anyone know how to make the H.A.R.D system and/or a screamer. I have had to resolder the speaker a few times :brick:now.

TerminalAddict
2nd March 2008, 20:11
cover all solder joints with liberal amounts hot glue

yomikey
2nd March 2008, 20:29
Yeah I've done that now.:doh:

CookMySock
5th March 2008, 07:59
But he never solved the warhead problem either. No point in a missile that doesn't go BANG. I suppose one could jack up some crude chemical thing, of low yield, but that's so amateur. Nukes are the professional way to go, just sourcing is such a PITA.Just cook up a 2:1 batch of KNo3 and Icing Sugar and seal it in a paper or PVC tube to force a CATO. Works real good. Warning: Yes, this DOES work real good ok, so don't blow ur flamin arm off.

Use the same fuel to make the rocket as well. Thusly ;
http://www.jamesyawn.com/skillet/large/index.html

Flies like this ;
http://www.jamesyawn.com/NEFAR4-8-06/LWS-4-8-06.wmv

You need some of this stuff, plus ordinary icing sugar and corn syrup.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Business-farming-industry/Other/auction-143240663.htm

You will need a cheap disposable autonomous autopilot hardware and software solution hee hee, like this one ;
http://paparazzi.enac.fr/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

hrm, what are we missing ?

Forget radar detector detectors, they are gunna need heat-seeker detectors. Queue cop in car, "bleep! bleep-bleep! BLEEEBLEEEBLEEEBLEEEBLEEEP!!!.. oh theres there microwave unit, oh no its not its the detector detector.. OH NO ITS NOT ITS THE FUCKING MISSILE LOCK DETECTOR!!!"

edit: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pipe+bomb
DB