Merit in NOT buying petrol on Feb 22?

[Conquiztador]

Got this sent to me in an email:

"Feb 22 Don't Buy Petrol Day...please do this, it's very important! Time we got together as a nation...let this be the start. We're so slack at standing up...let's be heard JUST DO IT :-)

IT HAS BEEN CALCULATED THAT IF EVERYONE IN NEW ZEALAND DID NOT PURCHASE A DROP OF PETROL FOR ONE DAY AND ALL AT THE SAME TIME, THE OIL COMPANIES WOULD CHOKE ON THEIR STOCKPILES.

AT THE SAME TIME IT WOULD HIT THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY WITH A NET LOSS OVER 4.6 BILLION DOLLARS WHICH AFFECTS THE BOTTOM LINES OF THE OIL COMPANIES.

THEREFORE FRIDAY FEBRUARY 22nd HAS BEEN FORMALLY DECLARED STICK IT UP THEIR *@!' DAY AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION SHOULD NOT
BUY A SINGLE DROP OF PETROL THAT DAY. THE ONLY WAY THIS CAN BE DONE IS IF YOU FORWARD THIS E-MAIL TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN AND AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN TO GET THE WORD OUT.

WAITING FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO STEP IN AND CONTROL THE PRICES ? IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REDUCTION AND CONTROL IN PRICES THE ARAB NATIONS PROMISED LONG AGO? THE PRICES JUST KEEP GOING UP AND WE NEED TO STOP IT

PETROL PRICES ARE CAUSING OTHER EFFECTS; AIRLINES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES, AS ARE TRUCKING COMPANIES . THIS INCREASES PRICES ON EVERYTHING THAT IS SHIPPED. THINGS LIKE FOOD, CLOTHING,
BUILDING SUPPLIES MEDICAL SUPPLIES ETC. WHO PAYS IN THE END? WE DO! WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IF THEY DON'T GET THE MESSAGE AFTER ONE DAY,WE WILL DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN. SO DO YOUR PART AND SPREAD THE WORD. FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW. MARK YOUR CALENDARS AND MAKE FEBRUARY 22nd THE DAY CITIZENS OF NEW ZEALAND SAY 'ENOUGH IS ENOUGH' "


Personally I am not too worried, my opinion has always been: "As the price of petrol rises, only the devoted will be on the road"

But perhaps they have a point? Perhaps I should join in, be part of something bigger then a Saturday night pissup?

[RantyDave]

Complete bollocks.

Dave

[The Pastor]

so no one buys gas on the 22'd every one will get it on 21st.

[McJim]

The bottom line is that the petrol you buy today was paid for 3 or 4 weeks ago and you're only hurting the franchisees for a day....not the oil companies. Then you have to buy more petrol the following day or you have to buy the petrol the day before either way balancing out the petrol station's yield..this would only have an effect is if the non-purchase was maintained for a few consecutive days.

This has been done in other countries and didn't work....wasn't unanimous anyway.

[Mully]

so no one buys gas on the 22'd every one will get it on 21st.

Or the 23rd. I concur.

My personal protest is not to buy anything in the shop which is not vehicle related. I know that will have sod all result either, but it makes me feel better. What's the world coming to when you can buy tinned corn or baked beans at your local gas station, and not an indicator bulb?

Fuck them. Fuck their families. And fuck their cute little kittens with a big black dog.

[paturoa]

And if you have to fill up on Saturday - be in early cos the queues will be really big to make up for Friday.

Or better still fill up early on Thursday so you dont have to on Saturday.

[The Pastor]

Or the 23rd. I concur.

My personal protest is not to buy anything in the shop which is not vehicle related. I know that will have sod all result either, but it makes me feel better. What's the world coming to when you can buy tinned corn or baked beans at your local gas station, and not an indicator bulb?

Fuck them. Fuck their families. And fuck their cute little kittens with a big black dog.
Food is ok at a gas station, makes eating less of a hassle and more time riding!

[Laava]

Last time it was boycott BP which makes more sense and is probably going to force some change. But in the end it is all chinese whispers innit?

[James Deuce]

If you're in Masterton, buy Gas from the Caltex and Food from the Starmart.

It is owned by one of my nicer relatives.

[sAsLEX]

Hmm auckland to Manfield on one tank.........

[James Deuce]

You should be able to do that. It IS all downhill after all.

[Mikkel]

LOOKS LIKE SOMEONES FUCKING CAPSLOCK KEY IS BROKEN!!!

Anyway, they have the petrol. You need the petrol. You try and stick it to them and not buy their petrol to force the prices down. They have to pay money to keep a stockpile - they loose money. They need to get their money back. Prices go up - YOU LOOSE!

Trust me - capitalism works out to the best of everyone. Yes, there are some people that make more money than is ethical - but all over it's better for you!

[No FX]

As has been stated this wont have any effect on the oil companies. if everyone didn't buy petrol AND also didnt drive their cars/bikes for a day then it might.

Not buying petrol for a day will only hurt the poor guy who owns the Caltex/Shell/Mobil franchised station who really only makes money from selling the other products in the store( hence high prices for food/drinks etc).
Ive heard that people who own the actual stations only make about 5c out of every $20 petrol they sell for the oil company.

[Conquiztador]

LOOKS LIKE SOMEONES FUCKING CAPSLOCK KEY IS BROKEN!!!



Well see, that was how I recieved the message. And if you think I care enough about your dislike for caps to make me sit here and retype it you are delusional.

[swbarnett]

This won't hurt them one iota. What's the difference if you buy petrol on Thursday or Friday? Over the week they'll still sell the same amount of petrol.

What might work is trying to break the cartel. If we all boycotted one of the petrol companies until they reduced their prices, then another and so on...

[Gubb]

Absolute bullshit.
Has been doing the rounds for years now, and i'm pretty sure (Yep, just checked) that it's decreased Oil Company's profit by 3/5ths of fuck-all.

[Steam]

What might work is trying to break the cartel. If we all boycotted one of the petrol companies until they reduced their prices, then another and so on...
That would only hurt the retailer, who generally owns his own place and pays money to BP or whoever the franchise is. The local retailer would get hurt, the big company wouldn't care. ANd the retailer only gets a few cents on each litre anyway.
My local place has a sign saying something like "We only get this much money on each litre, so we'd love it if you got your WOF and repairs here, and while you're at it, would you like some milk and a paper?".
They make so little money on petrol that they are basically a dairy and workshop, who also sell petrol.

[Coyote]

If it's in caps, or in varying fonts/size/colours, ignore it.

[swbarnett]

That would only hurt the retailer, who generally owns his own place and pays money to BP or whoever the franchise is. The local retailer would get hurt, the big company wouldn't care. ANd the retailer only gets a few cents on each litre anyway.
My local place has a sign saying something like "We only get this much money on each litre, so we'd love it if you got your WOF and repairs here, and while you're at it, would you like some milk and a paper?".
They make so little money on petrol that they are basically a dairy and workshop, who also sell petrol.
Yes, unfortunately it would hurt the retailer but surely the flow on effect would be that the oil company wouldn't able to sell petrol to the retailers? Some retailers might even jump ship.

[Number One]

Yes, unfortunately it would hurt the retailer but surely the flow on effect would be that the oil company wouldn't able to sell petrol to the retailers? Some retailers might even jump ship.

:lol::lol::lol:

the best laugh since I got on here tonight - thanks :2thumbsup

[swbarnett]

:lol::lol::lol:

the best laugh since I got on here tonight - thanks :2thumbsup
I'm afraid I'm a bit slow tonight (and don't know a lot about the oil business). You'll have to explain the joke so I can learn. I for one am not afraid to show my ignorance if it helps reduce it.

[Number One]

I'm afraid I'm a bit slow tonight (and don't know a lot about the oil business). You'll have to explain the joke so I can learn. I for one am not afraid to show my ignorance if it helps reduce it.

Sorry I am feeling a bit prickly - don't mean to come across as a total biarch but we are talking about oil companies here....they (and anyone in the world for that matter) doesn't really give a shit if some kiwis don't buy petrol for a day.

[James Deuce]

They don't even care if I don't wear trousers to work or not! The humanity!

[Number One]

They don't even care if I don't wear trousers to work or not! The humanity!

awwww - I care Jim :chase:

[Number One]

They don't even care if I don't wear trousers to work or not! The humanity!

awwww - I care Jim...please do wear pants :chase:

[swbarnett]

Sorry I am feeling a bit prickly - don't mean to come across as a total biarch but we are talking about oil companies here....they (and anyone in the world for that matter) doesn't really give a shit if some kiwis don't buy petrol for a day.
No worries.

Now I understand!

My comment was in response to Steam's response to post #15 i.e.:


What might work is trying to break the cartel. If we all boycotted one of the petrol companies until they reduced their prices, then another and so on...

So the boycott would be indefinite, not just for one day but for only one oil company.

If you thought my comment was in reference to the original post (#1) then I can indeed see the humour.

[Dargor]

I work at a gas station and applaud you on your quest. Please dont come to my shop, it would make my day very easy.

But i agree it will have no long term effect.

[Mikkel]

Well see, that was how I recieved the message. And if you think I care enough about your dislike for caps to make me sit here and retype it you are delusional.

Mate, I didn't imply that your capslock key was broken.

But as was said - do ignore anything that's all in caps! (parts of my original post included if it makes your blood boil)

Fuck, if you told me you had received it in caps and the retyped it into proper writing I'd red rep you for being an asshole! Why?

1. Because it's a stupid idea - the not buying gas thing.
2. Because it would be a waste of your time.
3. You should be more lazy than that!
4. You should have ignored what was written in caps to begin with.

Peace.

[skidMark]

Meh, no matter what the petrol price is you have got to pay it.

the only side effect to petrol prices cranking up is scooter sales go through the roof.

back in 06 when petrol prices went right up i was sending 20 scooters a week out the door as opposed to the usual 3.

[Conquiztador]

Mate, I didn't imply that your capslock key was broken.
True

But as was said - do ignore anything that's all in caps! (parts of my original post included if it makes your blood boil)
No blood is boiling here. Could be fatal!

Fuck, if you told me you had received it in caps and the retyped it into proper writing I'd red rep you for being an asshole! Why?

1. Because it's a stupid idea - the not buying gas thing.
That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Personally I can see two sides to it:
- It would not achieve the effect that is wanted
- I say good on the ones who want to make a point

2. Because it would be a waste of your time.
But now I am wasting my time writing this reply to you, and if I had re-typed it in the first place I would not have to write this...

3. You should be more lazy than that!
Rather doing something more fun, like getting laid

4. You should have ignored what was written in caps to begin with.
Caps do not offend me. What is written with them at times do.

Peace.
Groovy


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[Mikkel]

Originally Posted by Mikkel
Mate, I didn't imply that your capslock key was broken.
True

But as was said - do ignore anything that's all in caps! (parts of my original post included if it makes your blood boil)
No blood is boiling here. Could be fatal!

Fuck, if you told me you had received it in caps and the retyped it into proper writing I'd red rep you for being an asshole! Why?

1. Because it's a stupid idea - the not buying gas thing.
That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Personally I can see two sides to it:
- It would not achieve the effect that is wanted
- I say good on the ones who want to make a point
Yeah, I guess the same goes for suicide bombers ;)

2. Because it would be a waste of your time.
But now I am wasting my time writing this reply to you, and if I had re-typed it in the first place I would not have to write this...
Trust me - this was faster. If I get a break from working on my post count tomorrow I might just do a proper investigation of exactly how much time you've saved...

3. You should be more lazy than that!
Rather doing something more fun, like getting laid
Yeah, but nothing wrong with a lazy fuck though. Think I'll go to bed and sleep personally.

4. You should have ignored what was written in caps to begin with.
Caps do not offend me. What is written with them at times do.
Nothing offensive about caps indeed - it's how they're used IMO.

Peace.
Groovy
Baby!


:rockon::sunny:

[Number One]

If you thought my comment was in reference to the original post (#1) then I can indeed see the humour.

That's what I thought yes....and now yours makes more sense to, though I do believe there'd be little affect either way for the oil companies.

[MSTRS]

If it's in caps, or in varying fonts/size/colours, ignore it.

So, all those missives from Nigeria are ok then?

[sunhuntin]

a boycott wouldnt work anyways, specially one thats only circulated by email. there are many buyers of petrol who dont have a computer or any clue how to use one, and they will get gas no matter what.

but, like said above, dont come to mine. then i might actually get a chance to have some lunch instead of dealing with growly customers and growly tummy.

if you targetted the ones that are actually owned by the company, instead of privately, then something might happen, but i highly doubt it. [ie, bp 2go is generally private, whereas the bp connects are company owned]

[Coyote]

So, all those missives from Nigeria are ok then?
Sure, totally, give them all your money.

It was one rule of many, not the only one.

[Big Dave]

and then there are the 'me' types who just don't care and will fill up if I need it anyway.

[ManDownUnder]

LOL if you want to hurt them stop using the stuff, for a day or whatever. Not buying it on a certain day does nothing... what you use on the day is what counts.

Use less yes! That's the only way you will actually need to buy less and "hurt" them.

[Finn]

Petrol is still cheap in NZ. Stop wasting energy on mundane things like this and start focusing on the real issues facing NZ.

[swbarnett]

Petrol is still cheap in NZ. Stop wasting energy on mundane things like this and start focusing on the real issues facing NZ.
Do you have a source of comparison figures relative to average income?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting you. Just be good to see some figures.

[Gubb]

Brits are paying close to $4 a Litre.

[Clockwork]

As prices tend to fluctuate across brands more or less together, the only way I can see consumers influencing fuel prices may be to avoid buying petrol from whichever brand is the first to put prices up. Also, where practical, favour the brand which is first to announce any price reduction.

[Finn]

Do you have a source of comparison figures relative to average income?

Hang on, I'll have a look...

Edit: Nope.

[avgas]

Brits are paying close to $4 a Litre.
And making 60K+ pounds a year

[avgas]

LOOKS LIKE SOMEONES FUCKING CAPSLOCK KEY IS BROKEN!!!
BRING BACK WINJA!!

[MotoGirl]

Personally I am not too worried, my opinion has always been: "As the price of petrol rises, only the devoted will be on the road"

This doesn't sound like such a bad idea. Maybe they should make the price so astronomical that it keeps 90 percent of the population off the road and then it'll be there for us bikers* to enjoy.


* Only includes the bikers who're rich enough to buy fuel at the astronomical price :rofl:

[puddytat]

I support Hugo Chaves...:woohoo:

[m99dws]

Brits are paying close to $4 a Litre.

Of which around 68/70% is made up of tax.

[Virago]

These never-ending campaigns, being perpetuated by email chain-letters, get rather tiresome. Bearing in mind that these protest days come up all the time, how much affect do you think they have...?

This is around the fourth time I've seen this on KB.

Before doing a cut'n'paste into a new thread, try doing a search first.

[Gubb]

And making 60K+ pounds a year
The average British wage is considerably lower than that.

Of which around 68/70% is made up of tax.
So is half of ours.

[scrivy]

Shouldn't we just stay home that day, or walk or bicycle to work if poss.??
No fuel used means no fuel brought the day before or after. That would hurt them, as sales would drop. If thats want you want to do.
I personally just think of the increase as another tax, pay it, shut the fuck up and have my fun.

[twotyred]

The way to do this is to select one oil company franchise and boycott that chain for a day,week or whatever thereby creating a price war.

[swbarnett]

The way to do this is to select one oil company franchise and boycott that chain for a day,week or whatever thereby creating a price war.
And, as I've already suggested, keep it going until the price is acceptable.