Re-Vinning + Drum Brakes

[rok-the-boat]

OK - got my 1892 DR500 bike through the re-vinning process except one thing - I have to have the specifications of the drum brakes checked. Only problem is, my local Suzuki dealer told me they don't have the specs and can't do it. I'll have a phone around and see if anyone can do it, but - does anyone know where to find the specs, and/or someone who will do the check to certify them?

Temporarily schtuck ....

[rok-the-boat]

OK ... just as soon as I typed that I got a call from Coleman's Suzuki (not my local dealer) with the specs. Quite efficient I thought. Now I need someone to certify them. Coleman's said they might be able to do it - not sure what's required exactly. Will find out soon enough I guess.

[Mully]

1892 DR500

Is it steam powered or pulled by a horse??

[pete376403]

Are you saying the original equipment brakes now have to be certified? If the bike hasn't been modified in this area, why should they need certification? Are they asking for some sort of performance specs? because I doubt the data supplied by Colemans will show anything other than manufacturers data for diameter, wear limits, out-of-round, etc
The WOF check should show if they work efficiently.

[Conquiztador]

As the bike is from 1892 there will be no problems. Only bikes after 1990 need to have their brakes checked by someone with qualifications to be able to get VIN.

[Ixion]

That was also my understanding.

Ah yes. The full story (and you should NOT need such a certificate) and much other helpful information , is in this thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=59016)

[Motu]

The WOF check should show if they work efficiently.

A WoF test is visual,feel for creep,and one panic stop.For LVV the test criteria is much more severe - I think amongst other things they stop from speed several times in succession to test for brake fade....pretty damn hard for a drum brake.I remember when this stuff first came in - one of the most popular engine swaps was the Holden into a Series IIA Landrover.They were all sent away with a failure on brakes - but a standard Landrover would fail the test anyway! With a Holden in they were actually slower as the Holden didn't rev as high as the original motor.There was no way to improve the standard brakes without further LVV modifications....

Had a nice MKIV 6 cyl Cortina in on monday,he had to get it VINned last year - they didn't realise the upgraded brakes were factory and had no end of problems explaining what they were looking at.Surely LVV specialists would know a thing or two about low volume vehicles?

[breakaway]

As the bike is from 1892 there will be no problems. Only bikes after 1990 need to have their brakes checked by someone with qualifications to be able to get VIN.

The guy had to check my 1989 (NC23) CBR brakes before I got through the VIN.

[Conquiztador]

The guy had to check my 1989 (NC23) CBR brakes before I got through the VIN.

A quote from our friendly Ixon from Sept 07:

"1991 is the magic year for reregistering. If first registered in NZ prior to 1991, and you can prove it , and supply the old rego details, and it was last registered after 1986, the process is MUCh easier.

Prior to 1991 you do not need brake certificate, there is no invasive inspection and lights and such like to do have to comply with design standards (those numbers and letters on the lenses)

There is much confusion amongst WOF checkers about the lights . Because the critical dates are different for cars and bikes. Cars must have the numbers if registered after 1991. Bikes do not need them until 2006."

I still recon a 48 Panhead is the way to go. No need for this sheit, idicators OR brake light!!

[rok-the-boat]

Well, the numbers Colemans gave me weren't quite right. I found the correct ones stamped inside my drums. The good thing is, they are way inside spec - easy to check even with a tape measure. Now, I just need to waste some money one getting some official kind of guy to do it. Would any mechanic do, I wonder?

[rok-the-boat]

Brakes have been checked - all OK. Just need a number plate now - they won't let me keep my old black one. Why's that I wonder? What's wrong with being able to keep yer ole plate? I guess they want yer $$$ fer the new one.

[Conquiztador]

Black ones are hard to see in speed camera pics.

[pete376403]

I;ve seen a few vehicles with the old silver on black plates but they have been kept in continuous registration. But new reg = new plate = more money. (Its ALWAYS about more money, in one form or another)

[rok-the-boat]

This is the reply I got from LTNZ. I didn't need a brake inspection, though I did get one in the end.
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Good afternoon Rupert

Thank you for your email dated 21 February 2008.

After consultation with the appropriate department they advise the following:

Within the Entry Certification - Vehicle Inspection Requirements Manual (VIRM) the specific reference is under 8-2-1, important note exceptions (a) Vehicles presented for re-registration that were manufactured before 1991 and previously registered in NZ before 1 January 1991.

As we are unaware of the date your vehicle was first registered in New Zealand this specific clause may describe your circumstances. For your vehicle to fall into this clause it is required to be first registered in New Zealand before 1991.

If it does apply to you, you are not required to obtain a brake inspection for your motorcycle as per 8-4-2 alternative method for motorcycle brake inspections.

If you require further clarification please contact your local Land Transport New Zealand Transport Service Delivery (TSD) agent/certifier.

Land Transport New Zealand TSD agents are:

Vehicle Testing New Zealand (VTNZ)
Vehicle Inspection New Zealand (VINZ)
On Road New Zealand
Automobile Association Technical (AA)
Kind Regards

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