Need some info on 250cc bikes [Archive]

Blossom

21st February 2008, 14:14

Before I get roasted for not just test riding these myself... I am in a moon boot for the next month (broken left foot). :doctor:
So I figured the best idea was to pick all your brains about the bikes I have been looking at to help me narrow down my search.
Yamaha Virago 250cc owners.. How fast does this bike cruise at? What is the hp? It seems to have quite a small tank do you find yourself having to fill up a lot? and how much would you pay for one less than 10yrs old in excellent cond?

Honda Magna owners... Cruising speed of this bike? How heavy is it? Is it top heavy? and how much is a reasonable price for one less than 10 years old in excellent cond?

finally.. what the heck is a Hyosung and are they any good? Same question regarding Daelim?
Thanks for helping out the newbie...:niceone:

McDuck

21st February 2008, 14:55

get a gixxer 250. much more fun. and more likely to chuck you off to. Adds to the fun.

Jorja

21st February 2008, 14:58

Horse

21st February 2008, 14:59

The Hyosung is a nice looking bike IMO (see my profile pic), and mine goes well so far.

McDuck

21st February 2008, 15:00

Just go riding anyway, get DMNTD to hook up a shifter for you.

Blossom

21st February 2008, 15:06

Just go riding anyway, get DMNTD to hook up a shifter for you.

Being that I am a newbie here could you not speak geek plz.
and no I will not ride anyway.. I value being able to ride for the next 40yrs so I will keep the boot on till surgeon gives me the green light to take it off.

Blossom

21st February 2008, 15:09

I would say try looking and sitting on a few (if possible) and then when your foot is out of the boot, try riding them.
Have to say though that my new bike (scorpio 225) felt like crap the first time I rode it. A few minor adjustments involving a hack saw and I love it.:banana:

Frosty said.-- I've ridden a fair few 250's for Jorja -The magna feels heavier than the yamaha and for some reason the bike diddn't seem to handle as well. IMO the hyusung is very much like the yamaha.
A couple you may want to concider is the Kawasaki 250 cruiser -based on the ZZR250

Thanks for that. What model is the Kawa cruiser you speak of? The EL250? If so I have found like 1 in total in the north island for sale and it was a 1987 so I decided I wanted something newer.
I heard the handling on the zzr250 was a bit loose.

Harry33

21st February 2008, 15:23

Mmmm I had a Honda manga and it was a nice bike. It's top speed for me was just alittle over 100kph (I weighed around 80kilos at the time) Gas wise it was o.k but the only bad thing I can think of apart from the top speed was the turning circle sucked. Overall a nice bike if you don't want to get anywhere in a hurry.

McDuck

21st February 2008, 15:37

Being that I am a newbie here could you not speak geek plz.
and no I will not ride anyway.. I value being able to ride for the next 40yrs so I will keep the boot on till surgeon gives me the green light to take it off.

A while ago a user by the name of DMNTD had a bin and screwed his left foot so he hooked up a gear shifter that he could opperate from the handlebar of his bike... i will find pics...

JimO

21st February 2008, 15:38

whats a daelim......sounds indian or chinee...dont go there girlfriend

McDuck

21st February 2008, 15:42

A while ago a user by the name of DMNTD had a bin and screwed his left foot so he hooked up a gear shifter that he could opperate from the handlebar of his bike... i will find pics...

With the set up in this thread he was able to keep riding while he had a leg in plaster. Ok so maby not learner friendly... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=942970#post942970

Horse

21st February 2008, 15:42

I've been told that my GV250 goes about 130km/h indicated flat out with a 105kg rider on it.

McDuck

21st February 2008, 15:44

I've been told that my GV250 goes about 130km/h indicated flat out with a 105kg rider on it.

But you wouldnt brake the speed limit would you....

NOMIS

21st February 2008, 15:47

Hornet 250cc - 42hp nice looking naked bike
get 280km a tank ( 16 L )
Sit on 125kmph - 130kmph easy
Lots of trick bits, Big rear tyre look like a 600.
150kg dry weight handel real well

Blossom

21st February 2008, 15:49

With the set up in this thread he was able to keep riding while he had a leg in plaster. Ok so maby not learner friendly... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=942970#post942970

no not really learner friendly. I can ride but I can see mr plod and who knows how many cages giving me greif if I had a moon boot on and an L plate doing 70k on the open road. Nah thanks.
I am liking the Virago a lot but struggling to find info on speeds etc. I did have a wee look at a marauder and it was too slow so am feeling a bit hesitant about buying a 250 without knowing more info about the model.
cheers for the explaination though

McDuck

21st February 2008, 15:56

send a PM to this user here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=2997 he has got a 250 viargo and a 500 one to. Also ignore the 70kph speed limit the cops will not ticket you if you are riding properly.

Nagash

21st February 2008, 16:03

Horse

21st February 2008, 16:17

But you wouldnt brake the speed limit would you....

Definitely not.

Oh, and the GV250 gets 230-270km from a full tank.

Blossom

21st February 2008, 16:24

If speed plays such a great factor why are you looking at a 250 cruiser?

Am looking at a cruiser because I am very top heavy and most sport bikes I have sat on have way too much of a lean forward to be comfortable for me. The odd one has even squashed the puppies. And its not that speed is such an issue but I want to be able to do the speed limit and follow my husband without blowing up the engine.

McDuck

21st February 2008, 16:25

Blossom

21st February 2008, 16:34

Dude unless you wear a H cup you have no idea... I suppose I should have said front heavy instead of top heavy. Each to their own, I find sports bikes uncomfortable.

McDuck

21st February 2008, 16:36

Dude unless you wear a G cup you have no idea... lol

i have a stomack to make up for it. (i did not know they got that big?)

Blossom

21st February 2008, 16:39

(i did not know they got that big?)
err yeah they do, and they are blardy heavy.
Right now back on topic...

FROSTY

21st February 2008, 16:40

Am looking at a cruiser because I am very top heavy and most sport bikes I have sat on have way too much of a lean forward to be comfortable for me. The odd one has even squashed the puppies. And its not that speed is such an issue but I want to be able to do the speed limit and follow my husband without blowing up the engine.
Blossum--My lovely lady (jorja) has er um large puppies
She also has er gosh darn how not to get in the shit--Childbearing hips
shes all of 5 foot tall.
She will relate totally to where you are at.
For you as a first time rider I'd strongly suggest the Honda VTR250 or its earlier brother Spada 250The Scorpio 225,the yamaha SRV (or even the latest model SR) or the GB250 honda
All of these are unfaired bikes with neutral riding positions --so no crushed puppies . All will easily do the speed limit relatively easily.

Scorpygirl

21st February 2008, 16:51

It's a wonder Crashe hasn't been on this thread already saying how great the Yamaha 250 Virago is and all its virtues!!!! :woohoo: :sunny:

The Virago will cruise no problem at between 100 - 120 km an hour. You will get about 200 km from a tank of gas at road legal speeds. It is a very comfortable bike to ride if you like the cruiser style. The best thing is its built for the more vertically challenged of us. I am 4ft 11 and I can reach the ground no problem at all!! :shutup:

As others have said once you are out of the moon boot go out and try a few. All the best with the healing.

breakaway

21st February 2008, 16:57

See if you can use your "top heavy" excuse to get an exemption for a bike like a SV650.

Blossom

21st February 2008, 17:07

Scorpy girl.. Thanks for the info that was just what I was looking for. I am off to see dr on tuesday, thanks for your kind wishes.

Breakaway... brilliant idea but I fear they would just laugh at me.

crashe

21st February 2008, 19:32

no not really learner friendly. I can ride but I can see mr plod and who knows how many cages giving me greif if I had a moon boot on and an L plate doing 70k on the open road. Nah thanks.
I am liking the Virago a lot but struggling to find info on speeds etc. I did have a wee look at a marauder and it was too slow so am feeling a bit hesitant about buying a 250 without knowing more info about the model.
cheers for the explaination though

Been out all day on my virago 250........ and only just found this thread.

Ok I have gotten mine up to 130/140 but usually stick to 100/110kph.
As I like to cruise and enjoy the ride and the freedom.

Tank is 9.5 litres...... should get around 200kms before it needs to go onto reserve. Runs on 91 petrol. Lube the chain regular (every 500kms) and change the oil (every 5000kms) and change the oil filter every second oil change and do other regular maintainence and the bike will run and run...

As said before they are great bikes...... and good for those that are short.
Me, being all of 4foot 12 inches tall I can reach the ground with both feet when stationary comfortably.

They are great for around town riding, easy to move around..also great for out of town riding.
I have ridden my all the way up to Russell via Old Russell Rd and all the way down to the Wellington area. Handled it really well.

But do check out other bikes to see what is the most comfy for you as it is YOU that will be riding the bike.

Prices: New $6999 and second-hand $3500 up to $4500 approx

Sorry to hear that you have injured your foot.... and good on you for sticking to your guns and waiting until the Dr gives you the go ahead to ride.

BiK3RChiK

21st February 2008, 20:00

finally.. what the heck is a Hyosung and are they any good? Same question regarding Daelim?
Thanks for helping out the newbie...:niceone:

Hi Blossom. I have a Hyosung GT250R. Korean bike. Take a look here http://pages.quicksilver.net.nz/paua/DSCF3163.JPG
I absolutely love it. It does have a few little niggles though, which I am going to get sorted out next week hopefully. Nothing major, just niggles...

HTH,
M

BiK3RChiK

21st February 2008, 20:16

Oh, yeah.... but it ain't a cruiser... see Horse's profile for the cruiser!

Scorpygirl

21st February 2008, 20:54

Been out all day on my virago 250........ and only just found this thread.

Ok I have gotten mine up to 130/140 but usually stick to 100/110kph.
As I like to cruise and enjoy the ride and the freedom.

Tank is 9.5 litres...... should get around 200kms before it needs to go onto reserve. Runs on 91 petrol. Lube the chain regular (every 500kms) and change the oil (every 5000kms) and change the oil filter every second oil change and do other regular maintainence and the bike will run and run...

As said before they are great bikes...... and good for those that are short.
Me, being all of 4foot 12 inches tall I can reach the ground with both feet when stationary comfortably.

They are great for around town riding, easy to move around..also great for out of town riding.
I have ridden my all the way up to Russell via Old Russell Rd and all the way down to the Wellington area. Handled it really well.

But do check out other bikes to see what is the most comfy for you as it is YOU that will be riding the bike.

Prices: New $7999 and second-hand $3500 up to $4500 approx

Sorry to hear that you have injured your foot.... and good on you for sticking to your guns and waiting until the Dr gives you the go ahead to ride.

Hehehehehehe... I knew Crashe would came in at some stage. :yes: :clap:

n0regret5

21st February 2008, 20:58

off topic a mite - lady friend of mine is an E cup and manages to ride a sportsbike. but then i guess theres a bit of difference between here and there..
honda's cruiser is a good wee thing, don't bother with a micro vtwin as they just putt out just as you're having fun (got a mate with a suzuki boulevard and gets real angry with its distinct lack of any kind of performance whatsoever..), of course you could just go for the classic old GN and chop it!

Blossom

21st February 2008, 21:42

Been out all day on my virago 250........ and only just found this thread.

Ok I have gotten mine up to 130/140 but usually stick to 100/110kph.
As I like to cruise and enjoy the ride and the freedom.

Tank is 9.5 litres...... should get around 200kms before it needs to go onto reserve. Runs on 91 petrol. Lube the chain regular (every 500kms) and change the oil (every 5000kms) and change the oil filter every second oil change and do other regular maintainence and the bike will run and run...

As said before they are great bikes...... and good for those that are short.
Me, being all of 4foot 12 inches tall I can reach the ground with both feet when stationary comfortably.

They are great for around town riding, easy to move around..also great for out of town riding.
I have ridden my all the way up to Russell via Old Russell Rd and all the way down to the Wellington area. Handled it really well.

But do check out other bikes to see what is the most comfy for you as it is YOU that will be riding the bike.

Prices: New $7999 and second-hand $3500 up to $4500 approx

Sorry to hear that you have injured your foot.... and good on you for sticking to your guns and waiting until the Dr gives you the go ahead to ride.

Thanks for all that. I have found them new at our local dealers for $6999 + orc so wondering if it might be worth getting one new as most of the 2nd hand ones I have found on trademe are around 5 to 5 1/2k. Besides, I like the cherry colour.

Blossom

21st February 2008, 21:54

there is a gloss black and dark red wine colour..mmmmm

Blossom

21st February 2008, 21:57

like this (got off trademe):clap:

Blossom

21st February 2008, 22:04

I do like the 2tone ones, there are a couple of red and white ones for sale but the 2nd hand price seems a bit steep considering how much a new one is.
btw...am off to sit on a nice red zzr (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=141743683) tomorrow night if I can arrange it with the husband to take it for a test drive for me.

Blossom

21st February 2008, 22:16

Can you put up any links to the virago's that you have been looking at on 'Trade Me' or other places.....?
Cheers.

Have fun tomorrow checking out the zzr...

sure
this one (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=136482275)is one of my favs.
This one (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=141454004)is a bit further away from me.
This one (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=141782142)is a two tone red and white
and finally this one (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Cruiser/auction-128187874.htm) is a new one from Hamilton.

Blossom

21st February 2008, 22:25

if you go to www.motorcycletrader.co.nz and do a search on xv250 you will find the rest of the ones I have been looking at. A couple of two tones on that site. Have fun.

Jiminy

21st February 2008, 23:10

Thanks for all that. I have found them new at our local dealers for $6999 + orc so wondering if it might be worth getting one new as most of the 2nd hand ones I have found on trademe are around 5 to 5 1/2k. Besides, I like the cherry colour.

Ahem, excuse me for being pessimistic, but if you're just starting, keep in mind that there is a good chance you will drop your bike in the first year. I was happy to have bought a second hand one when I finally dropped one. Also orc can be quite expensive, not sure how much it is for a 250, though.

I used to ride a Kawa EL250 and I found the tank limit a tad annoyingly small, so it's worth considering with the Virago.

Could you test ride the bikes as a pillion? It's not the best way to test a bike, but it's better than not testing it at all. After all, you really want to feel comfortable with your first bike.

Blossom

21st February 2008, 23:16

Ahem, excuse me for being pessimistic, but if you're just starting, keep in mind that there is a good chance you will drop your bike in the first year. I was happy to have bought a second hand one when I finally dropped one. Also orc can be quite expensive, not sure how much it is for a 250, though.

I used to ride a Kawa EL250 and I found the tank limit a tad annoyingly small, so it's worth considering with the Virago.

Could you test ride the bikes as a pillion? It's not the best way to test a bike, but it's better than not testing it at all. After all, you really want to feel comfortable with your first bike.

Good advise Jiminy..
However..I am new to getting my license, not new to riding I have been riding off and on for the last 20yrs. Had my last bike (a gn250) 5 yrs ago. So not too worried about the dropping issue.
As for the orc. my local bike shop is willing to waver the orc if I pay cash so no big deal. :cool:
My husband is going to take me out as a pillion on the bike first then I will go solo once my foot is allowed out and my learners is underway..(just waiting on a date to sit my bhs)

Radar

22nd February 2008, 09:54

finally.. what the heck is a Hyosung and are they any good? Same question regarding Daelim?
Thanks for helping out the newbie...:niceone:

Daelim, I bought a Hyosung Comet and drove it back from Napier yesterday. It went really well, no problem at 100 - 120 kph :niceone: or going uphill or passing. Top speed is 160 - 170 kpg - go to YouTube and enter "Hyosung Comet 250cc" and maybe "Malaysia" or "speed" and you will find a guy on a motorway in Malaysia topping out at 171 kph!!! :eek: Wicked! The camera must have been chest mounted as you can see the road and speedo.

BTW, I am an old biker from waaay back. Used to own 650 and 600cc bikes, and toured Europe and the USA on them. Unfortunately my overseas mc license is long gone so I have had to start all over again, thus me getting a 250cc bike. But nowadays there are some great 250's that are not dogs (there are bikes with around 18 - 20 hp, avoid these as they barely get up to 100 kph).

Anyway, I was going for a Bandit or Hornet or maybe a GSX, and I test drove a Honda VTR. But then I test drove a Hyosung GTR (exact same as my Comet but with a fairing) and I was impressed! In the end, it came down to me wanting a bike that I could sell easily in 9 months when I get my full license. My Comet is much newer than the Bandits etc available, had less than 5,000 km on the odo, was in showroom condition, and the price was right so I can probably sell it for what I paid for it when I upgrade to a bigger bike.

:first: Hey - this is my 1st post - helloooooo everyone! This forum has helped me considerably - I have read heaps in the last two weeks. Thanks guys!

Blossom

22nd February 2008, 10:12

Thanks for the info and welcome.
I am basically in the same position as you radar.
Always a hard one when you have not owned a bike for a few years, everything changes. Honda's seem to be less popular than they used to be and there are all these new brands on the market that I have never heard of.
Spoilt for choice really.

Radar

22nd February 2008, 10:33

Hi Blossom. I have not read all of this thread but one important point is determining the seat posture. The Hyosung GTR was my favoured bike but it was more of a racing posture and it cramped my legs but worse was the pain in my (injury buggered) wrist from leaing forward. A cruiser would have been the most comfortable but resell would be difficult since most 250 buyers are young guys wanting a sporty look.

It helped me heaps to test drive a few bikes and even to sit on a few that were in the showroom. I think a lot of 250cc buyers do so on impulse, getting what is available NOW. For me, it the important factors were Resale, Price, and ability to easily pass a car at highway speeds.

Radar

22nd February 2008, 10:41

sure
this one (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=136482275)is one of my favs.
This one (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=141454004)is a bit further away from me.
This one (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=141782142)is a two tone red and white
and finally this one (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Cruiser/auction-128187874.htm) is a new one from Hamilton.

How long do you plan on keeping it? I think cruisers would be harder to sell. And those Virago's are underpowered so before you buy take it out on the open road and see if it can keep up with traffic - in a headwind - and pass safely.

Blossom

22nd February 2008, 10:59

How long do you plan on keeping it? I think cruisers would be harder to sell. And those Virago's are underpowered so before you buy take it out on the open road and see if it can keep up with traffic - in a headwind - and pass safely.

Very good point you have there,
As far as the resale goes we have 4 children and 2 of them are only a couple of years off learning to ride themselves so dont plan on selling it for years.
How do you mean those Viragos are underpowered? Are they not about the same hp as the Hyosung 250?

Radar

22nd February 2008, 11:05

Very good point you have there,
As far as the resale goes we have 4 children and 2 of them are only a couple of years off learning to ride themselves so dont plan on selling it for years.
How do you mean those Viragos are underpowered? Are they not about the same hp as the Hyosung 250?

No, the Viragos are around 22 hp and the Hyo's are close to 30 and that is enough to make a difference at 100+ kph. I met a guy a couple of weeks ago in a parking lot - I asked him about his bike and I do think it was a Virago - he said it was not a highway bike and when I asked him what he meant by that he said it would not sonsistently keep up at highway speeds. His was a new bike.

If you are not comfortable test driving a bike, find a full license biker who will do a test drive for you, or get the owner to follow you in your car on the open road and see if it can pass your car when you are doing 95 - 100 kph. The Viragos do look nice and it was my first choice until I did research.

Check the specs for my Hyosung Comet:
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Hyosung/hyosung_gt_250%2004.htm

Badjelly

22nd February 2008, 11:21

Had my last bike (a gn250) 5 yrs ago.

So what did you think of the GN? You're not talking about getting another one, so I presume it wasn't everything your heart desires! I think someone said the Virago has 22 hp? That's not much above GN250/Scorpio territory so it's not going to be a ball of fire on the open road, especially with the cruiser riding position. But if that amount of power is enough for you, why not a Scorpio?

Jorja

22nd February 2008, 13:12

Littlewheels rides a virago. Send her a pm for info. She will be able to tell you about speeds etc.

Dodger

22nd February 2008, 15:39

I have a Hyosung GT250 (note the missing R) costs around $6500 new.

I fill up at around the 300km mark (today's was 12L fill up) but others have reported 400km per tank (on the 250r)
Does 100kph happily with my 106kg lump on it, and also the same with 2x105 kg lumps on it's back.
Top speed so far has been 165kph (or so I have been told :whistle:)

I had a few issues in the first 5000ks but these were all fixed under warranty and am about to hit 20000ks in the next week or so.
"gw555" has done about 60000ks on his Hyosung GT250.

Radar

22nd February 2008, 16:29

I have a Hyosung GT250 (note the missing R) costs around $6500 new.

I fill up at around the 300km mark (today's was 12L fill up) but others have reported 400km per tank (on the 250r)

With my Hyosung GT250, the fuel consumption from Napier to Masterton was:
3.55 litres per 100 km
= 80 mpg IMP = 66 mpg USA :niceone:

Fuel Tank Capacity = 17 litres >> so with a full tank on the open road you can get 480 km maximum, or safely 400 km

For fuel consumption conversions see:

http://www.calculateme.com/cGasMileage/LitersPer100kmtoMPG-imperial.htm

http://www.teaching-english-in-japan.net/conversion/liters_per_100k

http://www.france-property-and-information.com/quick_metric_converter.htm

Blossom

22nd February 2008, 17:33

So what did you think of the GN? You're not talking about getting another one, so I presume it wasn't everything your heart desires! I think someone said the Virago has 22 hp? That's not much above GN250/Scorpio territory so it's not going to be a ball of fire on the open road, especially with the cruiser riding position. But if that amount of power is enough for you, why not a Scorpio?

I found the gn250 very slow, heavy handling and its a bit small really. I really have had conflicting info as to the virago's handling on the open road. I think its just going to come down to the test drives.
Having a look at a zzr tomorrow morning. (feeling a bit unwell atm)

Blossom

22nd February 2008, 18:18

Just had a look on TM and thought I would give you all an update. Due to the fact that my husband is buying a bike atm too I have a budget of around 5k that I would not like to go over if I can avoid it.
We plan on pillioning our children on the back of my bike so it needs to be able to handle that and be comfortable for them.
I am on the short side so I need a low seated bike (heace the lean toward the crusiers)
I need it to be able to do 100k without the engine peaking out, and be able to follow my husband on his bike on the open road (no speeding, just cruising)
That all being said I think the hyosung GT might be too big for me but I will try one out first before I rule it out.
Keep you all posted after the weekend...we are off bike hunting....:wari:

Dodger

22nd February 2008, 18:36

That all being said I think the hyosung GT might be too big for me but I will try one out first before I rule it out.

At a guess it's going to be to high for you.
There's the hyosung cruiser (GV250) that you can pick-up for less than $5k second hand.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Cruiser/auction-142197372.htm

Blossom

22nd February 2008, 18:48

At a guess it's going to be to high for you.
There's the hyosung cruiser (GV250) that you can pick-up for less than $5k second hand.

But would that not just be around the same specs as the xv250 virago? Seems to be much of a muchness in the 250 cruisers?

crashe

22nd February 2008, 20:36

I really have had conflicting info as to the virago's handling on the open road.

Can you expand on this a bit more....... thanks.

Rhino

22nd February 2008, 21:56

And those Virago's are underpowered so before you buy take it out on the open road and see if it can keep up with traffic - in a headwind - and pass safely.
I have to ask if you have ever ridden a Virago. I ran ScorpyGirl's new one in up and down the Southern motorway in 2001 every day to work and it hauled my 100 kg bulk along at 100-120 kph quite easily. No problem passing cars or trucks.

As with most cruisers, a screen will deflect the worst of the wind, so headwinds are not a problem.

Radar

22nd February 2008, 21:57

There's the hyosung cruiser (GV250) that you can pick-up for less than $5k second hand.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Cruiser/auction-142197372.htm

The Hyosung GV 250 looks really good and has enough power for highway cruising. See specs here:
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Hyosung/hyosung_gv_250_cruiser.htm

Radar

22nd February 2008, 22:03

I have to ask if you have ever ridden a Virago. I ran ScorpyGirl's new one in up and down the Southern motorway in 2001 every day to work and it hauled my 100 kg bulk along at 100-120 kph quite easily. No problem passing cars or trucks.

As with most cruisers, a screen will deflect the worst of the wind, so headwinds are not a problem.

No, have not ridden a Virago but talked to a guy with one who said it sucked on the highway - but maybe it was some other bike that looked like a Virago.?? It has 21 hp - see a few specs and a short review here: http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/buyersguide/Yamaha-XV250-Virago-VX250S.htm
By comparison, the Hyosung GV 250 has 30 hp, so if I had a choice between the Virago or GV 250 I'd go with the GV 250.

Anyway, its good to know that the Virago can cruise along on the motorway no problems.

Screens are good for long trips or daily commuting. I had a small GIVI screen fitted and it does keep my chest from being buffeted - after an hour or so it can be tiring with no screen or fairing.

CookMySock

22nd February 2008, 22:03

But would that (the GV250 cruiser) not just be around the same specs as the xv250 virago? Seems to be much of a muchness in the 250 cruisers?no no, the Hyosung GV250 and the GT250R are the same engine.. quite a bit more peppy than the virago I understand.

The GT250R is quite hard on your hands while going slow, even for the skinny girls and boys. On the open road they are awesome, but you must have your sportbike steering sorted, or some quality supervision while you get it sorted.

Even my GT650R is not a putt-around bike - my wrists are taking lots of time to adjust. I have never used my wrists this much.. not my left one anyway..

DB

Radar

23rd February 2008, 07:34

no no, the Hyosung GV250 and the GT250R are the same engine.. quite a bit more peppy than the virago I understand.

The GT250R is quite hard on your hands while going slow, even for the skinny girls and boys. On the open road they are awesome, but you must have your sportbike steering sorted, or some quality supervision while you get it sorted.

Even my GT650R is not a putt-around bike - my wrists are taking lots of time to adjust. I have never used my wrists this much.. not my left one anyway..

DB

DB, I think you mean that the GT250 and GT250R have the same engine (and frame), not "GV". Right?

I test drove a GT250R and after 10 minutes by right wrist ached - I smashed it up bad years ago. I hear that riders can toughen up and get used to the forward leaning wrist thing but in my case that would not happen. Anyway, I was so impressed with the Hyosung that I test drove, I bought one without a fairing and without wrist ache handlebars.

Blossom

23rd February 2008, 08:01

Can you expand on this a bit more....... thanks.

Just that all the owners of viragos that I have emailed on trademe have said that they cruise at 100 to 120 easy, yet there seems to be some disagreement on here about that.

CookMySock

23rd February 2008, 09:01

DB, I think you mean that the GT250 and GT250R have the same engine (and frame), not "GV". Right?well I am known to be wrong on occasion, but I understood all the Hyosung 250's used the same engine.

I test drove a GT250R and after 10 minutes by right wrist ached - I smashed it up bad years ago. I hear that riders can toughen up and get used to the forward leaning wrist thing but in my case that would not happen. Anyway, I was so impressed with the Hyosung that I test drove, I bought one without a fairing and without wrist ache handlebars.Yes I would go along with all of that. The GT250R is GOING to hurt for a while until your wrists strengthen. But gee aint it worth it :yes: What a nice bike. Yeah for those with a wrist injury the GT250R is unlikely to work out, or any forward-rider-position sportbike for that matter. Once you are at 100-110km/hr the strain is lot less, but it still isn't flash. Around town it's downright nasty.

We love ours to bits ;
http://pages.quicksilver.net.nz/paua/DSCF3138.JPG

DB

crashe

23rd February 2008, 09:59

Just that all the owners of viragos that I have emailed on trademe have said that they cruise at 100 to 120 easy, yet there seems to be some disagreement on here about that.

Not from those of us who actually own and ride a virago 250...

But at the end of the day it is your choice what bike you get.
As it will be YOU riding it.

Good luck in finding the right bike for you.

Jiminy

23rd February 2008, 11:41

But would that not just be around the same specs as the xv250 virago? Seems to be much of a muchness in the 250 cruisers?

According to this site, the hp of the Hyosung is a bit higher than the Virago's, probably enough to make a difference on the highway:
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/buyersguide/Yamaha-XV250-Virago-VX250S.htm
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2007models/2007models-Hyosung-GV250Aquila.htm

I've been beaten to it, but I had also heard (take it with a grain of salt) that Hyosung use modified versions of the same engine in the GV and GT, a bit like the Kawa Ninja and Eliminator.

If you haven't read it already, you might want to look at this comparison of 250 cruisers:
http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/250cc_cruiser_comparison/index.html

Finding the right bike is half the fun, hey? :)

Radar

23rd February 2008, 13:20

Not from those of us who actually own and ride a virago 250...

Radar commented about how gutless they are, and yet he has said that he has never ridden one. How can he judge it?

Yes and if you read my posts I acknowledge that I have not ridden on it but said I spoke to a guy at a parking lot with a Virago, a new one - are there other bikes that look like a Virago because then I may be mistaken but I am fairly sure it was a Virago and he - the owner - said it was not really a highway bike because it could not keep up with the traffic all the time.

And if you go to the review link that I posted, this one:
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/buyersguide/Yamaha-XV250-Virago-VX250S.htm
... it says the top speed is 75 mph and this = 120 kph.

From the link recently posted by (??):
...the Virago... "and smaller riders felt the Yamaha had plenty of oomph off the line and sufficient power up to around 60 mph. After that the power fell off quickly, resulting in a top speed of approximately 75 mph. Those smaller in stature said they came closer to the 85 mph posted on the speedometer and were comfortable cruising on the highway. The V-twin exhaust note was a unanimous hit."

Didn't Blossom say she wanted to ride with a pillion passenger on a Virago? In this case it does seem 21 hp would not be enough.

Whoever thinks of buying a Virago (or any bike!) really has to take it out for a test drive. If they are too inexperienced to handle 100+ kph on the highway, then they should have a friend or even the owner on the bike while they follow in their car to see what speed it can do.

The Virago has 21 hp while other 250's have 28, 30, 40 and more. My point is this: if I wanted a 250 cruiser and had a choice between a Virago with 21 hp and top speed of 120 kph, and a Hyosung cruiser with 30 hp, the choice would be easy. But I do take your point, that owners you know say the Virago cruises no problem... but I wonder how close to red line that would be?

Radar

23rd February 2008, 13:31

If you haven't read it already, you might want to look at this comparison of 250 cruisers:
http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/250cc_cruiser_comparison/index.html

From that review it says this about the Virago:
"and smaller riders felt the Yamaha had plenty of oomph off the line and sufficient power up to around 60 mph. After that the power fell off quickly, resulting in a top speed of approximately 75 mph. Those smaller in stature said they came closer to the 85 mph posted on the speedometer and were comfortable cruising on the highway. The V-twin exhaust note was a unanimous hit."

So it seems if the rider is a lightweight, with no head wind, cruising at 100 - 100 kph, and passing, would be OK.

Radar

23rd February 2008, 13:34

A
We love ours to bits ;
http://pages.quicksilver.net.nz/paua/DSCF3138.JPG

DB

:niceone: Very nice!! :cool: A 650 and a 250? You own both?

If it wasn't for my injured wrist, I would have gone for a GTR.

crashe

23rd February 2008, 13:36

Yes and if you read my posts I acknowledge that I have not ridden on it but said I spoke to a guy at a parking lot with a Virago, a new one - are there other bikes that look like a Virago because then I may be mistaken but I am fairly sure it was a Virago and he - the owner - said it was not really a highway bike because it could not keep up with the traffic all the time.

And if you go to the review link that I posted, this one:
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/buyersguide/Yamaha-XV250-Virago-VX250S.htm
... it says the top speed is 75 mpg and this = 120 kph.

The Virago has 21 hp while other 250's have 28, 30, 40 and more. My point is this: if I wanted a 250 cruiser and had a choice between a Virago with 21 hp and top speed of 120 kph, and a Hyosung cruiser with 30 hp, the choice would be easy. But I do take your point, that owners you know say the Virago cruises no problem... but I wonder how close to red line that would be?

It may have been another cruiser... there is a 'keeway' (sp) cruiser out there.
There are also a few other chinese/korean copy cruisers out there on the market as well.

All brand new bikes must be run in....... so one doesn't do the faster speed until it is run in.... maybe that was this particular riders problem... I cant answer for why that rider as I do not know him or how he was riding that virago.

I just know what my bike can do........ I have also ridden with Slashwyde, scorpygirl and a few others that happen to ride or owned a 250 virago. They all manged the speed limit without any problems.

The 250 virago doesn't have a REV counter so we just ride them to speed and the sound of the engine for gear changing.

Highway/motorway: well I travel heaps on the motorway and keep up just fine.... in fact I manage to pass a awful lot of vehicles along the way lol.

Open Roads: Never had a problem doing the legal speed limit at all.

Top Speed: There are a couple of KB members who did a test reading on my bike. What they did was follow me along the motorway and have verified that my bike does go well over 120kph.

I remember heading up the northern motorway once heading north and enjoying the ride and looking down at my speedo and seeing it read 130+ yep I lowered my speed straight away....

CookMySock

23rd February 2008, 13:54

:niceone: Very nice!! :cool: A 650 and a 250? You own both?

If it wasn't for my injured wrist, I would have gone for a GTR.Both, yes indeed. His n' Hers. :ride: :ride:

We like them very much. :first:
http://pages.quicksilver.net.nz/paua/DSCF3138.JPG
DB

Radar

23rd February 2008, 13:59

Both, yes indeed. His n' Hers. :ride: :ride:

We like them very much. :first:
http://pages.quicksilver.net.nz/paua/DSCF3138.JPG
DB

Does the 250 keep up fairly well with the 650? I am not talking about a flat out race of course, but normal driving in the city and on the highway.

Horse

23rd February 2008, 14:30

BiK3RChiK

23rd February 2008, 15:02

:niceone: Very nice!! :cool: A 650 and a 250? You own both?

If it wasn't for my injured wrist, I would have gone for a GTR.

No.. He owns the 650, and I own the 250!!!!

M

Blossom

23rd February 2008, 16:43

Didn't Blossom say she wanted to ride with a pillion passenger on a Virago? In this case it does seem 21 hp would not be enough.

The only pillions I will be taking will be my 4/8/10/12yr olds so the weight is not as much of an issue. Sorry I should have clarified that.

I am really liking the virago, I went up to a few bike shops in Akl thismorning and had a sit on a few bikes. I liked the height and balance etc, The husband is gonna take one out for a test drive for me on tuesday along with a Honda Magna.
Magna's seem to be a very nice bike. A bit wide in the seat so my feet wernt quite fully on the ground but I hear its pretty simple to lower the seat a little. It just seemed a little more my size overall, A heavier machine for sure, but a bit more stable too. Spec wise I am told they hold up well for a 250 and have a bit more grunt than the virago but I will decide that for myself on tuesdays test rides.
I also had a look/sit on a gt250r (could not find a gt250)and no...wayyyy to high for me and my dodgy foot. lol.
So I think I am down to either a virago or a magna... (btw the husband says now I sat on a Honda I am now ghey, It feels remarkably like being straight. lol)

Jiminy

23rd February 2008, 17:05

So I think I am down to either a virago or a magna... (btw the husband says now I sat on a Honda I am now ghey, It feels remarkably like being straight. lol)

Good luck, both are good choices (ahem, ok, I haven't tested the Magna, but it looks great) :)

Blossom

23rd February 2008, 17:15

thanks.. I am getting soo freakin excited about it....
AARRRRRRRRGGHH.. :lol:
I am off to find a vodka.:apint:

BiK3RChiK

23rd February 2008, 17:41

thanks.. I am getting soo freakin excited about it....
AARRRRRRRRGGHH.. :lol:
I am off to find a vodka.:apint:

Steady on the excitement there girl and the vodka... You might hurt your foot and it'll be even longer before you get on the bike:laugh:

Seriously, though, all the best with getting the new bike and hope you are riding again soon, cause it's so freakin awesome!!!

M

Scorpygirl

23rd February 2008, 17:49

The only pillions I will be taking will be my 4/8/10/12yr olds so the weight is not as much of an issue. Sorry I should have clarified that.

Hi Blossom. How far are you likely to be pillioning your kids? If you do get a Virago then you might want to consider a sissy bar so they feel more comfortable and stable, especially as the smaller ones won't be able to reach the pegs. The pillion seat is really not made for long distance travel as you would have seen today. I have pillioned on mine with my hubby, Rhino, and although I would weigh more than your kids my back got sore really quickly due to there being no support.

Just something to maybe think about for the future.

All the best for the results of the test rides on Tuesday. :woohoo:

Blossom

23rd February 2008, 19:14

Thats a good point actually. Personally I never hold on at all being such a weirdo and all. Just used to wedge myself between the man and the pack rack. So was thinking of getting a pack rack for whichever bike I get anyway. I am super paranoid if I got panniers they would get nicked (they would have to be leather..) and I am not a fan of the 'top box' or 'lunch box' as I call it.
As a side note I found out today that the laws concerning carrying kids is they are supposed to be either 5yrs old or be able to reach the foot pegs, not sure if thats the law or just a strong suggestion. Apparently some clever bloke here on kb got creative and attached a 'dinkie' bike seat to the back of his bike for his little one.. Anyone wanna own up if it was them? I would be curious to know what the fuzz thought of this if anything?

Blossom

23rd February 2008, 19:16

Steady on the excitement there girl and the vodka... You might hurt your foot and it'll be even longer before you get on the bike:laugh:

Seriously, though, all the best with getting the new bike and hope you are riding again soon, cause it's so freakin awesome!!!

M

Excellent advice there... I shall make sure I only drink the vodka whilst I am sitting down. The husband can carry me to bed after I have finished drowel..drewl...drooling over the motorcycle trader.:love:

Radar

23rd February 2008, 22:04

From a bit of reading I'm led to believe the GT250's engine is tuned a little differently from the GV250, possibly giving it a touch more power at higher RPM or something.

I do know from accompanying a GT250R (really nice-looking red one) on one of our local group rides and comparing notes with the rider that they seem to be geared differently as well - our bikes were making different RPM at the same road speed in supposedly the same gear. IIRC it was my GV250 that was sitting at the higher RPM at 100km/h, but it was quite a few weeks ago so knowing my memory I've probably got it completely back-asswards.

FWIW, here are the specifications for the GV250 aka Aquila:
http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/hyosung_gv250_aquila_-_gv250_cruiser_2007.php

...and for the Honda Magna 250 cc:
http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda_magna_250_2002.php

Both look to be very nice bikes, with more power than the Virago.

Hyosung says this about the GV250:
"Because this engine is the newest design among its rivals, it has many performance features that they do not have. These include roller bearing camshafts and dual squelsh combustion chambers. These are features that were previously confined to racing engines, and in the past have been uneconomical to incorporate into smaller-capacity engines for street use."

Littlewheels

23rd February 2008, 22:27

I am a newbie but I love her. Must admit that 110kph is as fast as I have gone, not because she (Lucy my virago)won't go faster just that I kind of try to go fast enough to get there but enjoy the ride. They weight about 150kgs so even I can pick her up, handling is good and she looks great when clean. I paid $2,900 for her at 35,000kms, she is in good nick and there are some nice ones out there, lots out of auckland unfortunately. you are welcome to pm me if I can help more.

EFFBEE

24th February 2008, 01:09

Hi
Have you looked at the Suzuki VL 250 - similar to the Virago but slightly more modern, with a recent price drop to $5995. Black or grey. Thinking about getting one myself.

Radar

24th February 2008, 07:25

Hi
Have you looked at the Suzuki VL 250 - similar to the Virago but slightly more modern, with a recent price drop to $5995. Black or grey. Thinking about getting one myself.

The VL 250 is another good looking cruiser. See specs here:

http://www.motorbikes.be/en/Suzuki_VL_250_Intruder_LC_2001.aspx

Engine type: Air-cooled SOHC 248 cc V-twin, 6 valves. 24 hp (18 kW)(8,000 rpm, 23 Nm (2.3 kg-m)/ 6,000 rpm.

Zuki Bandit

24th February 2008, 09:52

Just go riding anyway, get DMNTD to hook up a shifter for you.
Yep, fekin ingenious!!!

Blossom

24th February 2008, 20:41

lol. I am leaning toward the magna.. Just a bit more hp and better specs. I dont want to get bored and have to upgrade and I think with the Magna being just a little bit bigger makes it feel a little more like a 400.
Man I can barely wait till tuesday.

Blossom

25th February 2008, 11:24

just as a side note...is it an easy process to lower the seat on a magna by say 2cm?

Badjelly

25th February 2008, 12:54

Several people on this thread have reported that Viragos, allegedly with 21 bhp, can maintain 100 km/h, and a bit more, comfortably, and have a top speed around 130 km/h. (Disclaimer: I've never ridden one.) That's exactly how I would describe the performance of a Yamaha Scorpio, allegedly with 19 bhp. (Non-disclaimer: I do have one of those.) However to me the Scorpio feels a bit busy at these speeds and doesn't have a huge reserve, so if I were planning to do more than, say, 20% of my riding on the open road, I would definitely be looking for something with a bit more power.

Just my NZ$0.02.

Blossom

25th February 2008, 13:34

However to me the Scorpio feels a bit busy at these speeds and doesn't have a huge reserve, so if I were planning to do more than, say, 20% of my riding on the open road, I would definitely be looking for something with a bit more power.

Just my NZ$0.02.

I am...
Honda Magna 250 is around 27hp I believe.

Badjelly

25th February 2008, 14:07

Have a good time on your test ride!

Blossom

26th February 2008, 18:50

YEAH!!! I Got a Bike!!! After test riding enough bikes to work for the crash test dummy unit I finally made an abrupt about turn and brought a brand spanking new 2008 Suzuki 250LC intruder in black of course...
I am over the freken moon. Its all shiny and sweet and I got it at an excellent price with no orc and a full tank of gas. Got a new skid lid and gloves whilst I was at it as I got 15% off accessories. So yeah there ya go.
We were all committed to getting me a magna but after test riding 3 of them, the husband tried the intruder out and when he got back he got off the bike and was smiling .. I appreciate to the uninitiated that is no big deal but trust me for my husband to be smiling after riding a cruiser means that its a nice tight ride. Ergo 6k later I am the proud owner of this yet to be named machine...
Kudos to all... I am off to enjoy my new toy,.

Blossom

26th February 2008, 18:55

Hi
Have you looked at the Suzuki VL 250 - similar to the Virago but slightly more modern, with a recent price drop to $5995. Black or grey. Thinking about getting one myself.

kudos to you EFFBEE I ended up trying and buying;:wari: bling sent.

Scorpygirl

28th February 2008, 18:12

YEAH!!! I Got a Bike!!! After test riding enough bikes to work for the crash test dummy unit I finally made an abrupt about turn and brought a brand spanking new 2008 Suzuki 250LC intruder in black of course...
Kudos to all... I am off to enjoy my new toy,.

Well done Blossom on your new purchase. A lady that did the Ride Right, Ride Safe Course with me in January had one and they look a very nice bike. Now just to get that moon boot off!!! :yes:

Blossom

29th February 2008, 09:40

Well done Blossom on your new purchase. A lady that did the Ride Right, Ride Safe Course with me in January had one and they look a very nice bike. Now just to get that moon boot off!!! :yes:
In all the excitement I forgot to mention I am out of the moon boot :niceone: but not fully recovered, but recovered enough to be given clearance to RIDE!!! YES!! Off for an MRI on tuesday to check progress and as a side note...The husband also brought his new bike it was a RF900 from Red Baron... He is pretty happy too....

Scorpygirl

29th February 2008, 18:33

In all the excitement I forgot to mention I am out of the moon boot :niceone: but not fully recovered, but recovered enough to be given clearance to RIDE!!! YES!! Off for an MRI on tuesday to check progress and as a side note...The husband also brought his new bike it was a RF900 from Red Baron... He is pretty happy too....

Cool!!!!! :yes:

Radar

29th February 2008, 21:49

YEAH!!! I Got a Bike!!! After test riding enough bikes to work for the crash test dummy unit I finally made an abrupt about turn and brought a brand spanking new 2008 Suzuki 250LC intruder in black of course...

This the one? http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20%20A/Suzuki%20VL%20250LC%20Intruder%2001%20%201.jpg

:banana: Great news - thats a really nice bike. So how is it? Where have you been with it? Going for a weekend cruise with your husband?

Blossom

2nd March 2008, 15:41

This the one? http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20%20A/Suzuki%20VL%20250LC%20Intruder%2001%20%201.jpg

:banana: Great news - thats a really nice bike. So how is it? Where have you been with it? Going for a weekend cruise with your husband?

Yes thats the one. It is awesome!!!:sunny: No big cruises for this weekend. The husband went down to Quazimoto's on Friday to pick up his new jacket (thankyou Bret) and I sat my bhs test this arvo. Which I passed :done: now just the scratchies between me and being legal. So am off to do them tomorrow after I spend tonight swatting:innocent:

Radar

2nd March 2008, 16:34

So am off to do them tomorrow after I spend tonight swatting:innocent:

All sounds good, Blossom!

Be sure to memorize the practice exams (MC and general road code) because the actual exam has identical questions.

This afternoon I went for a long ride with the big boys - 700cc up to 1800cc, and my bike had no problem keeping up. But holy crappola was it WINDY!!!! :eek5: Gusting 80 90 100 kph so it took concentrated steering... but good practice and an otherwise beautiful :sunny: day. Lunch in Martinborough, back roads through Longbush Gladstone and home to Masterton. Man, I love biking! :D

Keep us posted :yes: on the rides you do on your new bike, and get 100% on that scratchie!

fire eyes

2nd March 2008, 16:43

Yes thats the one. It is awesome!!!:sunny: No big cruises for this weekend. The husband went down to Quazimoto's on Friday to pick up his new jacket (thankyou Bret) and I sat my bhs test this arvo. Which I passed :done: now just the scratchies between me and being legal. So am off to do them tomorrow after I spend tonight swatting:innocent:
wooohoooo blossom! CONGRADULATIONS GURL :banana: Im proud of you! not that we suspected you wouldn't get it anyway of course! lol Iv just been reading your thread from start to finish and veryyyyyyyyy impressed with the information posted. I am on the hunt for my first bike but because I really am new I need something that won't mind a close encounter or two with a few brick walls lol .. I am looking at the Scorpio 250 at the moment. My eldest has expressed an interest in learning as well so I would like to keep it for when shes legal to in a couple of years. I am glad you are out of your moonboot!!!! bet that got pretty frustrating but hey look at where you are now from where you were! awsome stuff gurl. Keep us updated with your progress it's really inspiring stuff. Trace xxx

Blossom

2nd March 2008, 17:07

I am on the hunt for my first bike but because I really am new I need something that won't mind a close encounter or two with a few brick walls lol .. I am looking at the Scorpio 250 at the moment. My eldest has expressed an interest in learning as well so I would like to keep it for when shes legal to in a couple of years.

Sounds very familiar. Good luck with the hunt. I started a few years back on the good ole gn250. Great to learn on and cheap to buy. Have fun researching and trying them out. And thanks for the lovely sentiments on my bhs... NOW just to get back to studying the roadcode.:crybaby:

Blossom

3rd March 2008, 09:02

Damn I am getting nervous:sweatdrop:
Woke up thismorning with a headcold, feel like concrete head. I was planning on going down to the AA once the small fry is at kindy so am on the night and day tabs, so those should kick in shortly in theory and then I wont feel so much like I got a hangover. I hate tests, any and all tests, only ones I have ever failed so far have been hearing and preganancy tests. :lol: Hope not to break that record today. Wish me luck all.