Wanted 250 (Sport)

[Corbmyster]

Gday

About the mid-winter mark, I was hoping to have around $3500 or more for a sport bike. I am preparing to pay $4000 if I can find the money.
On Learner licence

Criteria:

- Japanese
- 250cc 4 stroke, mechanically sound and regularly serviced.
- Preferably under 30K km's
- Rough around the edges is OK (I like projects and fixing stuff)
- Good tyres
- 1990ish and above (late late 80's maybe)
CBRR, FZR, ZZR, GSXRR etc... (Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki)

If anyone is planning to sell this coming winter, hold off the cosmetics and touchups and consider selling a little bit cheaper. If you have a decent bike and you think it fits my preference, let me know.

Im keen to hear what people have out there.

I will be a weekender more than a commuter.

Cheers,

Corban
021 168 6435
corbanborrie@hotmail.com

[Taz]

That 3.5k is a bloody good deposit on a new GPX250 or a ZX2R. No problems with repairs then. GPX is 5995, ZX2R is 6995 new, would hold it's value fairly well also. Why would anyone buy an old CBR/ZXR/GSXR/FZR and all the problems associated with an old 250?
Just my 0.02c
Andy.

[Corbmyster]

Thanks Andy,

Realistically, I dont have that much money to dish out on a new bike which is why I am seeking the next best thing, second hand ;)

hey maybe if everyone threw in 0.02 cents every day, I might be able to get one of them new ones by next summer :P

Cheers

[Taz]

2c pieces are no good to you now though.......

[Mikkel]

That 3.5k is a bloody good deposit on a new GPX250 or a ZX2R. No problems with repairs then. GPX is 5995, ZX2R is 6995 new, would hold it's value fairly well also. Why would anyone buy an old CBR/ZXR/GSXR/FZR and all the problems associated with an old 250?
Just my 0.02c
Andy.

Because the old inline 4s are faster and more sporty than the new 250s - which are more of a sportstourer than anything.

And new bikes loose value fast!


Thanks Andy,

Realistically, I dont have that much money to dish out on a new bike which is why I am seeking the next best thing, second hand ;)

hey maybe if everyone threw in 0.02 cents every day, I might be able to get one of them new ones by next summer :P

Cheers

$3,500 isn't likely to land you a mechanically sound 250 sportsbike. I got lucky at $5,000 myself and have since then thrown a significant amount of dollars at it to lift it up to the standard I require.

Bear in mind - some of the 250s are restricted and anything newer than '92 will be less powerful due to japanese emission requirements. You can be very lucky and find a post-92 which has been "de-restricted" and is running the full 45 hps - but I very much doubt they'll be cheap!

If you want a proper 250 ccm 4 stroke sportsbike there are only four options:

Kawasaki ZXR250 (A, B and C)
Honda CBR250RR
Suzuki GSX-R 250 (not very common)
Yamaha FZR (I think it's FZR but am not certain - and there aren't many of them either)

[Wally Simmonds]

I've got a GSXRR that I'd probably let go around that price. It's an 89 with 20k on the clock. I'll be holding on to it for at least another month, though. Body wise its okay, think I've got a pic in my profile. It has been cleaned up a little since that pic though.

Goes pretty good for a 250.

[Ragingrob]

Well I got mine for $2,700 had it for four months now not one problem really, runs like a dream! :P now that's a steal! So there are bikes out there you've just gotta get in quick and find a good one!

[MidnightMike]

Here you go:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-141471048.htm?key=1134359

Not mine but sounds like you, and the GSX's are highly underated.

Very reliable etc.

[Corbmyster]

Mikel, Wally, Ragingrob, midnight mike:

Thanks for the comments

I know that there are bikes out there for my budget which is why I have put that as my figure. I just got to find the right bike and bypass the dreamers who still want what they paid for it, from Red Baron for example.

I think bike stores has set the price for second hand bikes much higher than they need to be but because there is a market for it - it 'seems' that 'some' people are willing to pay.

But, if we could only trust a bike being purchased from a bike store then nobody would buy second hand.

Store propoganda?
Stores running the market?
Sounds like a conspiracy to me! lol

Talking to a bike mechanic from a store, he told me that some of NZ's biggest bike stores are willing to import 250s at top dollar, which raises the market's price.. you would think that our dollar would bring prices down for new, however second hand must be completely different.

I have seen over the past few weeks many nice bikes with low km's being sold nicely. I got an offer for a CBR which was 30,000 on the click for $3400; so if its still there in a few months then who knows..


I've got a GSXRR that I'd probably let go around that price. It's an 89 with 20k on the clock. I'll be holding on to it for at least another month, though. Body wise its okay, think I've got a pic in my profile. It has been cleaned up a little since that pic though.

Goes pretty good for a 250.

Wally if you are still selling in a few months then perhaps we could talk more :D - oh and sadly the profile pic didnt work. I loaded up something you attached on perhaps another thread - is it the black/silver GSXRR on the walkway next to the retaining wall? Nice ride!

email me when you are thinking about selling (corbanborrie@hotmail.com)

(just quietly, I think these bikes tickle my fancy quite alot)

Cheers

[Mikkel]

Well, a free market works in the way that a commodity is worth what the purchase will pay for it.

You can argue that you may not be getting as much bike for your money with the 250s - however, if it sells then it's not overpriced.

[HungusMaximist]

Hey bro $3500 is a good amount of money for a bike and I reckon if you're strict with your budget and stick with it, you'll find something eventually.

Of course, it will help if you got a mate who also rides or is more experienced, so he can give you a hand with things.

I like your attitude that you don't get to distracted by too much fancy dealer/seller bull shit.

One thing to note though is keep an open mind, you don't necessary have to get a sports Jap, Hornets and Spadas for example are really sweet rides.

Check out my ride in my profile, I paid 4.5k for it! :lol:

A deal awaits you!

that last bit was a joke k?

[RSrider]

I got my 1993 ZXR250 for $3700 and its mint. Only done 14,000kms. The only thing wrong with it was the fork seals which were $170 to replace. Don't like blowing me own trumpet, but I havent seen (with my own eyes) a nicer zxr, even for twice the price.

[Wally Simmonds]

That's a pretty good deal!

[Seraph]

was thinking about selling my kawa zr250 ..(naked zxr with tubular frame) 28'000 (or so) k's, but theres another bike I want at the moment so unlikely i'll still have it when you want 1...wanting around $3200 though.

[Corbmyster]

I got my 1993 ZXR250 for $3700 and its mint. Only done 14,000kms. The only thing wrong with it was the fork seals which were $170 to replace. Don't like blowing me own trumpet, but I havent seen (with my own eyes) a nicer zxr, even for twice the price.

I guess thats what I am after - A nice bike which needs minor touchups here and there, in your case fork seals.

nice ride man - also nice colour.

[90s]

[Darth Vader's voice] "I have you now, Mikkel" ) actually probably Scumdog's as I imagine its very similar and you got him on physics when he got you on grammar or summit ...

Now, back to the point ...


Well, a free market works in the way that a commodity is worth what the purchase will pay for it.

You can argue that you may not be getting as much bike for your money with the 250s - however, if it sells then it's not overpriced.

Sure, but this market is one which is not a free market, but one subject to market failure due to regulation - ie. learners have to get a 250 or under. The laws of supply and demand operate in this context, but this is not your classical free market. Conditions are created that favour sellers and cartelisation due to the retriction on substitutes and the limited supply.

And a bike is not a commodity ...

[Mikkel]

I got my 1993 ZXR250 for $3700 and its mint. Only done 14,000kms. The only thing wrong with it was the fork seals which were $170 to replace. Don't like blowing me own trumpet, but I havent seen (with my own eyes) a nicer zxr, even for twice the price.

That's a very nice zxr!!! Mint indeed. :niceone:
If it isn't already de-restricted make sure you get it done quickly - will increase power at the rearwheel from ~27 hps -> ~37 hps!

There should be quite a bit of info on how to do it around the net...


[Darth Vader's voice] "I have you now, Mikkel" )

Bullshit! ;)


Sure, but this market is one which is not a free market, but one subject to market failure due to regulation - ie. learners have to get a 250 or under. The laws of supply and demand operate in this context, but this is not your classical free market. Conditions are created that favour sellers and cartelisation due to the retriction on substitutes and the limited supply.

Of course it's a free market - in so far as you can talk about a free market in a society that has socialistic traits. The fact is that there is a local effect that causes a higher demand in a certain segment of the market doesn't affect the way the market works - just how the prices are set.

If all of the sudden everyone with blue eyes had to eat 2 kgs of carrots every week there would be an increase in demand and the price would increase as a result unless the supply is infinite. This is no different - the 250 ccms are in high demand because a certain group of people "NEED" them - as a result the market price increases since there is not an inifinite supply of 250 ccm bikes (holds most true for sportsbikes - which again are the commodity which is in the lowest supply).


And a bike is not a commodity ...

Bullshit - QED. ;)

[littlegixxer]

I bagged a '88 GSXR-250 for $2300 and its mechanically sound, 40,000 on the clock, little scruffy cosmetically but otherwise sweet, so i reckon $3500 is easily enough if you dont mind getting ito it with some bog and armour all.

[2Slow50]

Hey mate,

I might have what your looking for.

I'm looking to sell my 1989 FZR 250, 28000 k's on the clock. Mechanically its in very good order, I have had no problems with it what so ever and commute to work on it everyday. It has been knocked over on its left side by a shopping trolley and has fairing damage but this has been fixed up and doesn't look too shabby at all.

Reason for sale: Looking to buy a RVF 400 - anyone got a mint one for sale?

If your interested mate, PM me or give us a call: 021 06 06 201

I know your looking to spend $3k, I wouldn't sell it for this as I know I can get a fair amount more for it, but we can discuss a price if you want..

Cheers

[Quartermile]

Here you go:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-141471048.htm?key=1134359

Not mine but sounds like you, and the GSX's are highly underated.

Very reliable etc.
No, Bad Mike, naughty, don't tell this guy to get some slow bike like yours, geeze some people.


Corbmyster, PM Bungy Mungy or it might be just Bungy now not sure if he's changed it ut anyway PM him hes got a CBR250 for sale.

[Corbmyster]

haha thanks - I have heard the GSX is a bit slower than the other 4's out there. however I have heard the GSXR's are good value with great performance.. I have not seem too many around, is it because everyone wants them or they are just rare?

[MidnightMike]

No, Bad Mike, naughty, don't tell this guy to get some slow bike like yours, geeze some people.

Its only as slow as you ride it. :woohoo:



Corbmyster, PM Bungy Mungy or it might be just Bungy now not sure if he's changed it ut anyway PM him hes got a CBR250 for sale.

Ahh true. Forgot about that.

[RSrider]

This ZXR would be a good deal if you could pick it up for around $3800. It looks in bloody good condition. Only needs the fairings to be resprayed/fitted and re-wofd and away you go.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-142849382.htm?p=8

[Corbmyster]

RSider - thats a beauty and if I had the funds right now - It would be sold :P

Hey word to anyone who has wisdom:
- If I purchased outside auckland, would 'cheaper' be a fair statement made to bikes outside the reach of the bombays?

It seems to have this trend that bikes are 'better' priced outside auckland. 'Better' because it seems many people are wanting to resell at what they purchased it from a bike store.

3800 would be a very reasonable price for that bike - something I would definately be serious on if I was ready to purchase!!

Thanks for pointing it out!

[randyp]

Hey there,

I own a ZXR 1989 model, I love this bike but have been toying with the idea of selling as i have changed cities and don't really have a place to work on it.
I ride this everyday, commuting, and for entertainments sake.

Rundown.

1989 ZXR250a black/metallic grey
44,000km's currently
Brand new wof (vtnz)/reg
Carbs pulled apart, cleaned, balanced and tuned but just motorcycles Christchurch
Two brand new bridgstone tyres
Fairings in good condition, A few chips here an there
Auto chain luber

I think this may interest you although the km's are slightly higher than what you wanted. I'd be willing to let this go around the 3k mark. There are a couple of things which will need attention in the future, which is probably a new chain and sprocket and brake pads. Everything else is Dandy from what i know.

If you're interested, drop me a pm and i'll send some pictures. Keen to sell, but in no hurry if you know what i mean? I'm sure there is another project for me out there.

[Corbmyster]

thanks randy, ill keep that in mind.

[randyp]

no worries

[randyp]

My bike is now actually up on trademe.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=144272981

[MSTRS]

hXc's Spada will be available about the end of May. Someone mentioned these as a model you could consider. Brilliant handling, nice torquey v-twin, very handy speedwise. If anyone tells you that they are just an old VTR...they are not.

[n0regret5]

easy - first, fzr250rr, second, cbr250rr. third, gsxr250r. fourth, fxr150.

don't buy a zxr250rr, they're not worth the ground they sit on, unless its genuinely low kms and owned by one old lady in all that time. got a mate wanting to buy a 250rr, guy says, 'take my zxr, 30,000kms for $5000. just - its in pieces and i'm replacing the clutch cable.'

clutch cable?! at 30000kms..


and i know fxr150 is a single. you'd be suprised how good a ride they are!

[Corbmyster]

Ok I got my bike now :)

FZR250 Yamaha.

Yay :D

14,000 k's too :)

Thanks for your input and help!

[BiK3RChiK]

Congrats! Nice looking bike... now, for riding it:banana: Rubber side down, shiny side up!!