How to embed images aesthetically and not enrage the mods

[xwhatsit]

You may have seen the controversy lately about embedding images. The site rules are, 640x480 resolution, no more than 100kb. The alternative is to upload your images as attachments, but this means you only get 6 images per post, and they all end up clumped together at the bottom of the post. Not ideal if you want to tell a story with words and pictures.

What to do? Thumbnails! Embed little pictures, that you can click on to get the full-sized ones. Just like this:
<img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/photopost/data/500/thumbs/sp3P1030896.JPG"></img> (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/photopost/data/500/sp3P1030896.JPG)
Used to be you had to have, for example, an account with Imageshack or others to host the images for you, and you'd have to use image editing software to produce the thumbnails. This is no longer necessary -- use the KB personal gallery and it's all taken care for you.

Let me show you how.
First of all, let's get your photo into your KB photo gallery. Where's that? Go to Quick Links up the top of the page, then underneath Site Stuff is Gallery. Once in the gallery, click on My Photos, then Upload Photos. You can do up to four at once -- the process is fairly self-explanatory.
So we have our photo in the gallery. Go back to My Photos and click on the photo you want. Now we have a choice. We can either embed the tiny traditional sized thumbnail, or we can embed a larger 640x480 sized thumbnail. For the smaller one, find the small image in the left-hand list, right-click, and choose `Copy Image Location' or similar. If you want to use the larger thumbnail, do the same thing except with the large picture in the middle of the screen
.http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/../photopost/data/500/thumbs/copysmall.jpg (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/../photopost/data/500/copysmall.jpg)
This is the geeky bit. Go back to your post, write exactly the following where you want the image (except paste in the thumbnail's address that we got in the last step where appropriate):
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/../photopost/data/500/code.png
Now, we need the location of the full-sized image. In your photo gallery, click on the centre image so it opens up in a new window. This is the full-sized image. Now, like before, right-click and choose `Copy Image Location'.
Go back to your post, and select the full `img' code, complete with brackets. At the top of the page, there's a little icon called `insert link'. It looks like an icon of the earth with a piece of chain (see image). Click on it, and paste in the location of the full-sized image.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/photopost/data/500/insertlink.jpg That's it. With a bit of luck, when you submit (or preview) your thread, it should have wee thumbnails to click on. If nothing displays, check the code is exactly how it is written, and make sure you've pasted the correct image locations.

[Big Dave]

or just point them here.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305303&highlight=coffee

[xwhatsit]

Yeah but but but...

I don't like those dirty adventure types. Make me feel inferior.

[Big Dave]

Yeah but but but...

I don't like those dirty adventure types. Make me feel inferior.

nice layout on the instructions.

[DingoZ]

Yeah cheers. Very Helpful...:)

[Cajun]

awsome work there xerxesdaphat

[warewolf]

Do you still need to be a member to see the attachments and/or the gallery?

Does the server still send pr0n as error messages when you try to cross-post attachments or view independently?

I don't want to upload my images twice, once to keep dial-up KBers happy and once for the rest of the world.

PS Most image hosting services also do thumbnails.

[xwhatsit]

Well I just tested it out -- it works if you're not signed in. Attachments require you to be a member, IIRC.

In terms of cross-posting, it works on Google Pages just fine. Although, if you're cross-posting across different sites, it might be better (or simply more polite) to host them somewhere else in the first place. This is meant to be for people who don't want to have to host them and produce thumbnails themselves, keeping it all nicely self-contained on KB.

[James Deuce]

I did that and got into trouble for embedding thumbnails to files that breached the site rules.

Good luck with that.

[Joni]

I don’t mean to be rude here, and Dave you know I have tons of respect for you as a person and for the work you so... but the rules have been made to help and suit 99% of the users. They cant make rules to suit one or two members out of 10500... that’s crazy... if you look at it rationally you will know what I mean.

[Big Dave]

I don’t mean to be rude here, and Dave you know I have tons of respect for you as a person and for the work you so... but the rules have been made to help and suit 99% of the users. They cant make rules to suit one or two members out of 10500... that’s crazy... if you look at it rationally you will know what I mean.

Perfectly rational thanks.
99% is spurious. So is 10,500 - that's how many have joined - tell me maybe 2000 active and I'll buy it
However - numerous of the moderating team are even in favour.

And apart from all that. I don't really care that much. There are other outlets. It's just discussion.

[Joni]

However, we all know that 99% of the users dont have the talent like you do... hope there is a solution where you dont give up ownership and can still post within the rules.

[xwhatsit]

I did that and got into trouble for embedding thumbnails to files that breached the site rules.

Good luck with that.

What the shit...? But that's ridiculous. This is KB's own image gallery. Furthermore, we allow absolutely massive sized attachments to posts, what's the difference? None, except we can place them wherever we like throughout the post.

Mod's word on this?

[Mental Trousers]

I think the incident Jim2 is referring to was quite a while ago (vague alcohol hazed memory of something like that ages back ..... could be wrong though). Later on the mod team and Spank looked at the issue again and came to the conclusion there's no problem with it. And there still isn't a problem with embedding thumbnails.

[xwhatsit]

Ah. I suppose with Jim2, most things he talks about happened `quite a while ago' and one should take them with a grain of salt ;) Cheers.

One thing I find interesting about this, is that under Firefox, I'm getting pretty blue borders that change on mouseover with the thumbnails in this thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1439534#post1439534). In this thread, I don't get anything, just the images. And under Opera I don't get any borders anywhere. What are other people's experiences?

EDIT: Fixed (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1444512&postcount=26).

[James Deuce]

Bastards, you're all bastards.

Mutter, grumble......

[Big Dave]

What are other people's experiences?

I was born at an early age and quickly .....

[merv]

Bastards, you're all bastards.

Mutter, grumble......

You not including me in that I hope, being such a nice fellah and all, who doesn't mind just posting attachments anyway.

You looked happy enough for a grumpy bugger going for your fish & chips when I saw you on Thursday night.

[James Deuce]

I was just pleased, as I always am when I bump into you, that there exists a God in this universe who is happy to provide people who are shorter than me.

[warewolf]

One thing I find interesting about this, is that under Firefox, I'm getting pretty blue borders that change on mouseover with the thumbnails in this thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1439534#post1439534). In this thread, I don't get anything, just the images.Images in this thread have alternate text = blank. In the other thread with blue borders, the alternate text is missing.

[warewolf]

In terms of cross-posting, it works on Google Pages just fine. Although, if you're cross-posting across different sites, it might be better (or simply more polite) to host them somewhere else in the first place.I was cross-posting within KB, in essence quoting an attachment from another thread or post. KB server served up pr0n instead. It did the same trying to view the attachment without being signed in to KB. It means you can't share KB content except with members - so there's not much point in authoring content here if you have any friends outside KB.

But as Dave says, it's academic, there are better venues available that we use instead.

[DingoZ]

I was just pleased, as I always am when I bump into you, that there exists a God in this universe who is happy to provide people who are shorter than me.

That would have to be a rare sighting wouldn't it....:)

:done:
:laugh:

[James Deuce]

Shuddup, you towering melanoma hazard.

Bastards, you're all bastards.

[merv]

Is it time we had another pleasant lunch in Welly Jim and all the bastards could turn up?

[xwhatsit]

I was cross-posting within KB, in essence quoting an attachment from another thread or post. KB server served up pr0n instead. It did the same trying to view the attachment without being signed in to KB. It means you can't share KB content except with members - so there's not much point in authoring content here if you have any friends outside KB.

But as Dave says, it's academic, there are better venues available that we use instead.

How strange. Embedding attachments from other threads worked for me in the past. Perhaps others were seeing pr0n however? :laugh:

Well the method outlined in this thread works whether you're signed in as a member or not, so it could conceivably be used to share stuff with non-members.

But certainly, this thread is meant for the more amateur among us, doesn't go any way towards solving the problems the professionals have been bringing up towards ownership and control.

[xwhatsit]

Images in this thread have alternate text = blank. In the other thread with blue borders, the alternate text is missing.

Aha! Thanks for that clue. Figured it out. In going from `Preview Post' and editing this post back and forwards, the < i m g > tags got translated automatically into VBulletin-style [ I M G ] tags. These apparently don't get the pretty blue border. Change the tags back to HTML-style, and the blue border comes back.

Not really that important anyway, as it seems the border doesn't appear anyway in some browsers.

[Big Dave]

But as Dave says, it's academic, there are better venues available that we use instead.

In excess of 30,000 posts in dozens of forums - approximately 10,000 images posted online - over 1,000 positive endorsements, messages of support, encouragement. :woohoo:

and the only complaint/issue/moderatation is on KB. :confused:

whateva.

[gav]

Perfectly rational thanks.
99% is spurious. So is 10,500 - that's how many have joined - tell me maybe 2000 active and I'll buy it

Tells ya on the front page!
Members: 10,639, Active Members: 4,090

[Skunk]

Tells ya on the front page!
Members: 10,639, Active Members: 4,090
Maybe if you're a mod... Otherwise:

» Stats
Members: 10,640
Threads: 62,331
Posts: 1,416,909
New Posts: 16

[Mental Trousers]

On the Members List (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/memberlist.php) page it's showing 9908 actual members. I think the frontpage includes Guests and bots in the count so it's not accurate.

[Virago]

What constitutes an "active" member, MT?

[Mental Trousers]

No idea mate.

[James Deuce]

What constitutes an "active" member, MT?
You see, there's this band, Morning Wood......

[Big Dave]

You can tell by surfing it for a few years.

I reckon at any given time there are about 500 semi regular posters and about 1500 regular lurkers who pop up occasionally - and it's a passing parade.

Refer 'who I miss' threads.

[merv]

You haven't miss me have you BD while I was off in Brissie?

[Big Dave]

You haven't miss me have you BD while I was off in Brissie?

just been moping around the house wondering what to do.

Didn't eat any dogs while you were there? popular in FNQ at the moment.

[doc]

What constitutes an "active" member, MT?

Surely you must have a pulse ?


ie strong pulse , slow pulse , weak pulse, no pulse. Measured from your post per day. Surely this could indicate an active member

[AD345]

A question:

Why can I post an image in the "Jokes and Humour" section and not in the "Bike gear" section?

the latter does not even come up with the image icon and putting the [img] tags seems to only make it a clickable link?

[Gremlin]

the latter does not even come up with the image icon and putting the [img] tags seems to only make it a clickable link?
IMG tags are disabled in some forums...

[xwhatsit]

IMG tags are disabled in some forums...
That's why you use HTML img tags as described in this thread, not VB img tags.

[benhall]

That's why you use HTML img tags as described in this thread, not VB img tags.

why dont they just turn the IMG tags on for all forums?