EVS neck brace

[Reckless]

Just got this from BTO sports in their regular news letter. Looks like finally affordable protection is on the way. I wonder if the leatt will take a dive in price now? If it does I wouldn't buy one on principle. You've also got to respect Evs as they prob could have made this much more expensive considering the price gap. Hope it works! Looks good though.

Here for another look http://www.btosports.com/p/EVSRCEVO
$154-00USD equals $190-00NZD so should get them here for approx $230-00 odd??

Maybe we should all club together in June and get a shipment in? Although we would have to balance any possible discount against the fact that if we go over $400-00 inc freight we get GST on top as well. But we might save some in freight. I do have a guy there I can approach as I have bought a few bits from them in the past.

Still if Scott or some one gets them in it may just be worth waiting for him to source them. If he had to put GST on top I'd still buy from him for $250-00 odd incl GST, just so I could try one for size first!

[scott411]

im hearing they will be $250 approx here, rrp, so at least its better than leatts, due about the same time, but likely to be a month after the states as they will be sea freighted down here,

and the price is not confrimed in the states either,

Alpinestars neck brace will be relased about the same time, approx $900 RRP, better than a leatt but still overpriced imo

[YellowDog]

Impressive bit of kit. If it does the job it should then that's a major step forwards.

[Reckless]

I knew we could rely on you Scott. Good news. Saves me organising a club together to buy some.
I need 3 so the $1000-00 neck brace was always out of the question " period"!
But i'd rather have a 90% effective neck brace for $250-00 than none at all!
This is good news for us and our kids! Are you getting them in?

[scott411]

yeah i have them on order already,
the ones shown are not production as they have not finalised them, still no firm eta, but talking late may june

[DrewBroadley]

I'm all for these neck braces, I'm thinking of offering like a 5% discount to riders who are wearing neck braces in their photos.

[HenryDorsetCase]

these are off-road only, right?

[Reckless]

these are off-road only, right?

It looks that way but if the Leatt can be worn on both I don't see why these can't. Although they come quite a bit more over the shoulders than I remember the Leatt. Looking at the pic it may also be a bit restrictive when turning your head left and right. On the MX tracks we don't tend to be turning our heads to be looking for on coming traffic over our left or right shoulders like on the road. Also on a sport bike you arn't sitting upright either??

Just my 2c

[scott411]

I'm all for these neck braces, I'm thinking of offering like a 5% discount to riders who are wearing neck braces in their photos.


i am not that sold on them in all circumstance, seems to be little testing data out thier, but i am on of the thoought that all protective wear is good, i get pissed off when some of the top nz pro's get all shitty when they are pulled up on the chest protector law,

[dammad1]

There is a real long post on thumpertalk about these, about 20 pages of people argueing over the differences with Leatt and the EVS.

[Buddy L]

Well i have been running the Fro-systems Kneck brace that Scott stocks.

https://www.frosystems.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=141

I have no bad news to state about it, and only good news.
Haven't had to test it properly yet (don't realy want to):(
Almost landed on my head in the last trail ride, but action rolled instead:doh:.
But while riding, you don't notice it, and it is comfortable to wear.
Doesn't hinder movement of the helmet at all, while riding
But if you try and look at your toes, the helmet stops on the brace
And if you try and touch helmet on shoulder the brace gets in the way.
So it realy works.:2thumbsup
Was realy happy with the price as well.
Thanks again Scott, Hope the Bourons went down well.:drinknsin

[scott411]

yeah they did thanks, i still have a few of those, i am trying to get soem more info on the evs one before i order another lot

[Quicker_with_age]

I knew we could rely on you Scott. Good news. But i'd rather have a 90% effective neck brace for $250-00 than none at all!
This is good news for us and our kids! Are you getting them in?

I agree 100 percent!!

[Ktmboy]

Well i have been running the Fro-systems Kneck brace that Scott stocks.

https://www.frosystems.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=141

I have no bad news to state about it, and only good news.
Haven't had to test it properly yet (don't realy want to):(
Almost landed on my head in the last trail ride, but action rolled instead:doh:.
But while riding, you don't notice it, and it is comfortable to wear.
Doesn't hinder movement of the helmet at all, while riding
But if you try and look at your toes, the helmet stops on the brace
And if you try and touch helmet on shoulder the brace gets in the way.
So it realy works.:2thumbsup
Was realy happy with the price as well.
Thanks again Scott, Hope the Bourons went down well.:drinknsin

Well my young fella had a big hi speed endo 2 weeks ago. Looked really bad and we thought the worst. He was wearing a Fro-systems brace and I supose it worked as apart from a shit load of bruising he's all good. His helmet is grazed a fair bit so he did hit his head on the ground.:doctor:
Did the brace save his life? Well, who knows really but at least we feel more comfortable with him using one.

Feed back from his mates is that is it way lighter than a Leart and I suppose because it is new they all want to try it on. And they think its cool. :niceone:

Kids know everything.

[cheese]

Hmm even tight ass me might invest in an EVS one. My pressure suit is an EVS one so I assume it will not sit uncomfortably on it.

[scott411]

fro systems one must have been good, leatt got all up set

pr

Leatt Corporation settles with Fro Systems


Posted: Wednesday, 5th March, 2008 : 8:44 AM - - 469 Reads -


Following a hearing in the English High Court, Leatt and FRO Systems have reached a confidential settlement of their dispute over the alleged infringement by FRO of Leatt's design rights in the Leatt-Brace for use by motorcyclists. Under the terms of the settlement, FRO has stopped selling its Neck Protect product and will pay an undisclosed sum to Leatt.
Dr. Chris Leatt, the designer of the Leatt-Brace and Chief Executive Officer of Leatt Corporation, said that he was very pleased by the outcome, "Leatt have spent millions of dollars researching and developing the design and functionality of our novel neck brace. We shall not hesitate to take all necessary action to enforce our intellectual property rights which protect the product internationally." Both parties are pleased to have resolved this matter amicably.

[Teava]

DAM!!!! i should of brought one........ gutted

[scott411]

still got a few left, have not heard from fro systems if i can get any more, this ruling may only apply to england

[jimmy 2006]

just got an email from cycletreads,
EVS brace is going to be $249.00 due in june.

is the leatt still $849 for the bottom model? (club?)

going to make my purchase in the next couple of weeks, i have put this off long enough. had a VERY close call to head butting a tree the other day, it would not have been pretty.

[charles23]

I'm going to hold off for the Leatt 'adventure' GPX model, $195 USD, it looks the business without the big $$$$

[Danger]

Ok whats the latest on whats available now, prices, who has them, anyone using any of them etc?
Birthday coming up in July and would prefer to get something useful as I can never think of anything else that I need, short of a new big ass truck bike hauler!

[scott411]

they should be here first week of July, and be $249 RRP for the first shipment at least,

of course we can do better than that, ;)

[Danger]

Thats for the EVS I take it? Sounds like the go Scott. Please keep us informed. I need a few other Kwaka bits and pieces so I'll get them at the same time.
Tried a Leatt on at the Sandpit this arvo, not much to them so I can't see why these EVS should not do the same job and at a heck of a lot cheaper.

[scott411]

EVS been delayed in production,

now due in NZ mid August,

[crackle]

Hi guys, I have the EVS models on back order too, they look like a good compromise to fill the gap between basic foam and Hi-tech Leatts. I might try an EVS myself as I have not had the spare 1k lying around to use on a Leatt, although good to see they have come down to $850... I am sure the Leatt brace is superrior and has the advantage of adjustment, quality materials and replaceable components and probably is worth it. I Knocked myself out at Ardmore on the 1st of June. This is my 5th concussion, with only one of them resulting in some neck muscle/vertebrae issue, and I would like to actually find some proof/research about how many injuries these braces can actually save. Then again thats why protection should be worn as a preventative, a thousand bucks ain't bad insurance against death or spending the rest of your life in a chair... On a side note, I also broke my femur in the same crash. Me and my doc reckon that if I wasn't wearing my EVS vision knee braces(not top of the line, but only $450 a pair)that I would be facing mega knee reconstruction and life long issues, instead of the simple rod and a few screws, now stronger than before femur, with a clean break.... so Kids wear your knee protection!

[Reckless]

EVS been delayed in production,

now due in NZ mid August,

Oh thats bad for them I bet they'd like to be well on the Market before the $195 USD Leatt adventurer hits the market later this year.


Hi guys, I have the EVS models on back order too, they look like a good compromise to fill the gap between basic foam and Hi-tech Leatts. I might try an EVS myself as I have not had the spare 1k lying around to use on a Leatt, although good to see they have come down to $850... I am sure the Leatt brace is superrior and has the advantage of adjustment, quality materials and replaceable components and probably is worth it. !

you might want to put the Leatt on your list looks like it will fit with full armour/vests etc a bit differently over the shoulders so you don't have to take all your gear off to put it on like it looks like you have to do with the EVS to get it to sit on your shoulders not on top of the pressure suit/armour.
http://www.vitalmx.com/news/news/Something-to-Look-for-New-Leatt-Adventure-Brace,2783

[scott411]

the leatt brace adventure will be $450 nz if you look at the retail price of the club, and the compare, club brace now ($399 us and $850 NZ)

its weird how the EVS brace is $179 US, and $249 NZ, ???? pays to remeber that US stores advertised prices are less sales tax which is usually 8-12%

i still question weather the leatt is two stiff, and transfers to much load, i know the Alpinestars brace has been designed to be more forgiving,

[Reckless]

And Scott, as a retailer you just wanna seem not to be a rip off merchant but your forced there by your suppliers.
They wonder why we go overseas for our stuff. Looks like its the importer margin again.

Just did an exchange rate conversion
$175-00USD = $235-00NZD For the EVS so $249-00 is treating us equal to the rest of the world. good on the EVS guys.
$195-00USD = $257-00NZD For the Leatt Adventure. So $280-00ish should be the NZ cost. It would cost $40-00 to get one here privately from the US so they'd probably be $300-00NZD based on that scenario!
$399-00USD = $526.00NZD For the Club. SO: $850-00 - $526-00 = $324-00 Extra margin on top of the existing US retail. You can't tell me freight and holding costs add that to a shipment. If the margin wasn't so bloody big maybe they'd sell a heap more and turn them over faster. I don't know why they don't realise Google keeps them honest and some of us just aren't prepared to be ripped off.

Don't forget the US price is retail and has rent, Staff Wages local freight etc margin already in it. You can't tell me that EVS can do it and Leatt can't. We should all email Leatt and complain (if it happens) its a bloody rip off at the expense of our safety.

[Danger]

Just did an exchange rate conversion
$175-00USD = $235-00NZD For the EVS so $249-00 is treating us equal to the rest of the world. good on the EVS guys.
$195-00USD = $257-00NZD For the Leatt Adventure. So $280-00ish should be the NZ cost. It would cost $40-00 to get one here privately from the US so they'd probably be $300-00NZD based on that scenario!
$399-00USD = $526.00NZD For the Club. SO: $850-00 - $526-00 = $324-00 Extra margin on top of the existing US retail.

My head hurts!:pinch:

[Danger]

I Knocked myself out at Ardmore on the 1st of June. This is my 5th concussion, with only one of them resulting in some neck muscle/vertebrae issue, and I would like to actually find some proof/research about how many injuries these braces can actually save. Then again thats why protection should be worn as a preventative, a thousand bucks ain't bad insurance against death or spending the rest of your life in a chair... On a side note, I also broke my femur in the same crash.

Sorry to hear that Craig. Actually called the shop a few weeks back and asked for you only to be told you were off sick for quite some time. Get well soon.

[Danger]

EVS been delayed in production,

now due in NZ mid August,

Thanks for the update. Might have to look for a new birthday present. Perhaps some knee braces. Might start another thread regarding those.

Any news on 09 RM250's for the NZ market?

[scott411]

08's will continue to be sold while there is demand, no 09 at this stage,

same deal with drz400's

got a really mint 08 demo for sale if you feel like an upgrade

[Danger]

Cheers, not looking for an upgrade at this point, just want to keep tabs on the availability of these bikes cause I don't want to suddenly find out that they are no longer available and I can't get one if I wanted too.
So there are still new '08s available? Really interested to know if we will be offered an '09 model (yeah I know they won't be changed any but at least it shows that they are still being made available).

[scott411]

the 08's will continue while there is demand, it will come down to that, if there is enough to build they will,

(we still get a 04 model quad on the same deal)

so the basic answer is no there will be no 09 model, and i think the 125 might have the numbers to continue as the 125 class is getting mroe and more popular world wide again, 250 2 stroke sales this year have been next to nothing,

[scott411]

Had a look at the one of these braces yesterday, very impressive, much easeir to put on than the Leatt or Fro, and i like the design features, overall i think its better than the leatt (thats my opinion, others are welcome to theirs) i like the fact it has more absorbing materail in it

looks like they will be the end of the month at the moment, and there will be limited numbers available early on,

[Danger]

Thanks Scott, my wife has been hassling me about these. Please put one aside for me, let me know and I will pay you to courier it out to me.

[Reckless]

Thanks Scott
Does it go under your gear or over. A lot of us guys use Azonic armour or similar and I am interested to know how it would go with the back protector and shoulder protection incorporated in those vests. EVS have these vests so I imagine they have done their homework? I'm hoping you don't have to take all that off to fit the EVS neck brace on before each ride on the bike!!

[Reckless]

Thanks Scott, my wife has been hassling me about these. Please put one aside for me, let me know and I will pay you to courier it out to me.

Ye Danger as long as It works with my armour I need one as well. I still don't get full rotation of my neck after my road accident so I don't want to stuff it any further.

[scott411]

it should work fine with pressure suits, it is actually two peices, the lower peice will go under neath the armour, with the neck bit over the top, should fit very well

Danger - ill put your name on a large one,

[Danger]

Thanks, I'll asume your not being a cheeky bugga!:shifty:

[scott411]

if i was going to be cheeky, i would say they were making an XXL ;);)

[secondfield]

I know of a couple of us are keen down here for them too...

Whats the RRP?

[scott411]

the first shipments will be $249 as has been advertised, but the price is likely to rise in the later shipments with the Doller going backwards,

[secondfield]

Havent seen them on your website scott ... are they there somewhere?

[Reckless]

Havent seen them on your website scott ... are they there somewhere?
There's pics of them in my first post page1.

I think I need to have a look at them first they just look so bulky compared the the new leat adventure.


Scott are you guys gonna be able to sell the new Leatt or is it going to be a closed shop like now?

[scott411]

we sell the normal leatt now, it will depend on the price if we sell the adventure model, if its $400 i will conventrate on the EVS

brace is not on my website yet as i can not confirm delivary dates at this stage,

[timmehpwr]

after breaking my hip last year i'm pretty keen to get some proper riding gear so theres less chance of going through all that again :)...

i've had my eye on these evs rc-evolution neck braces for a while in the kiwirider mags, very keen to order one as well, just sent an email to your site scott :msn-wink:

[clmintie]

If they come in her size, I'd like one for Grace.

[Buddy L]

After breaking my fro (yes my aff-fro)
Ill be looking and most likely buy a new neck brace before i go riding again.

[oldguy]

I'd be keen if they come in a kids size.

[telliman]

any news on delivery dates yet?

[Danger]

Here are some reports on the EVS brace.

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6984583

[Reckless]

Thats a good score Danger thanks for that!! Great look at the EVS.

The only thing still worrying me is the ease of use. I don't want to have to strip all my gear off to get the under arm straps etc done up (even if they are preset for me) every time I want to get on the bike. Even if you don't use the underarm straps when your using a suit of armour it looks like a mission. I usually strip my jersey of and keep the armour on when I'm trying to cool off and even that looked like a bit of a hassle to get off with that brace.
The leatt Adventure looks so much simpler. Slip it on before your helmet and off again when you've been for your few laps around Ardmore, done a lap on a Mr moto ride or done a few trails for an hour or so at the sandpit.
I don't want to wear the thing all day, its to hot some days for that and I definitely don't want to struggle out of (or even partly out of) a sweaty sticky pressure suit more than once at the end of the day.
It looks like it will do the job well but it just looks like its a bit bulky and to much hassle to get on and off.
I'm gonna wait for the Cheapo model Leatt to hit the stores!!

[A&R]

Count me in too Scott. I'll need at least two now. me and the boy. maybe 5. God help me!

[scott411]

the EVS is no harder than the leatt to put on, if not easier, the leatt can be a bit of a pin wiht certain types of armour,

should have them in stock in about 10 days,

Danger - i can not send you pm's, can you send me your ph number

[Danger]

Thanks Scott

09 832 0153

[scott411]

I now have these in Stock, i have limited numbers of Mediums and LArges available, they are $299 rrp, and i will do free freight anywhere in NZ for that price, Pm me or call if you want more information,

cheers



Scott

[Danger]

Just trying mine on now, I don't feel any need for the optional straps once the chest protector is on. Extremely easy to get on and off and after watching my mates struggle to get in and out of their Leatt I'm greatful for that!
Its very comfortable and it doesn't feel like its going to take any getting used to at all. Once my helmet is on to push the front of the EVS neck roll down a little if anything I'm more comfortable than with just my chest protector on. Once my helmet is on it does not seem too restrictive as far as looking down or around is concerned. It seems most of the protection is aimed at lateral head movement (trying to touch your ear to your shoulder). It does restrict movement back and forward as designed but not to the degree that it is annoying or will restrict you in any normal way when out trail riding and looking down or up like I've heard the Leatt does. Perhaps it does not provide the same level of protection as the Leatt but it feels to me that the range of movement is a nice compromise between comfort, ease of use and protection for a darn good price!
Will report back after I've ridden with it (I won't say crash tested it because I hope to never have to do that).

Thanks Scott for the great deal!

[Danger]

Just got back. Do not use one of these for the first time in a race! They do effect your riding in that because your head is a little more restricted I found that small corrections in body position when riding by moving your head means that you do not have the same control as usual. I'm sure with a few more hours or rides that the adjustments in riding style will happen automatically.
And you definatley get hotter, I guess thats to be expected.
Ducking under branches was a little trickier as you had to actually put your eyes downwards more, taking your eyes of the track.
So those are the negatives. The positives are that its definatly an easy neck brace to fit and remove in comparison to the hassles that my two riding mates have with their Leatts. They tend to leave theirs on for the duration of the day where as the EVS is simple to remove if your taking a break.
I did feel more restriction with riding with the brace than I did when trying it on at home. This is comforting because thats kind of what its meant to do, restrict head and neck movement. Having said that I did some bush bashing through a block of trees where there were no trails (making my own trail) and there was never any hint of a snarl up or anything catching where as the bike came out the other end with all manner of plant life hanging of foot pegs, around wheels etc.

So overall I reckon this is a very functional good value piece of protective gear and I wouldn't hesitate to recomend that anyone purchases one. I understand Scott only has a few in stock so I would get in quick if you want one.

[crackle]

Hi Danger, cheers for the feedback so soon, we have them in stock at CYCLETREADS too, but also only a couple left. I will do a free MINDTHE GAP 2 DVD to anyone who comes in and mentions this reply on KB.
The Next shipment is a few weeks away and again BLK only for now, but no gaurantee as already been waiting so long due to excessive world wide demand.
Have you tried to adjust the layers in the foam neck section for a better fit depending on your neck size? Might help with movement?
For those looking to order:
Approx sizing is defined by rider weight: 1kg = 2.2 pounds
S/youth 50-100pounds
M 100-150 pounds
L 150-200 pounds
XL 200+ pounds.

This surprised me as I worked out to be Large when I had back ordered a M as I am 75kg and the M did feel a bit tight.

Cheers and always go big, from Craig.

[telliman]

the same price, or you doing them cheaper?

[dafydd roberts]

Hi Danger, cheers for the feedback so soon, we have them in stock at CYCLETREADS too, but also only a couple left. I will do a free MINDTHE GAP 2 DVD to anyone who comes in and mentions this reply on KB.
The Next shipment is a few weeks away and again BLK only for now, but no gaurantee as already been waiting so long due to excessive world wide demand.
Have you tried to adjust the layers in the foam neck section for a better fit depending on your neck size? Might help with movement?
For those looking to order:
Approx sizing is defined by rider weight: 1kg = 2.2 pounds
S/youth 50-100pounds
M 100-150 pounds
L 150-200 pounds
XL 200+ pounds.

This surprised me as I worked out to be Large when I had back ordered a M as I am 75kg and the M did feel a bit tight.

Cheers and always go big, from Craig.

Does it feel bulky?

[crackle]

Hi Telliman, the retail is $299, Cycletreads price is $290, which is pretty much the same as Scottys free freight offer all the way from Puke... haha. These are very limited in numbers and sizes and only the first batch in the country so not prepared to discount further or get into price wars on them. They are very good value for money and insurance against damage of a very vital part of your body. They would still be awesome value at $399 I reckon.
Better stil if we could all get ACC to subsidise us one each, as I do believe their moto is; PREVENTION, Care, Recovery!!!
Cheers from Craig.

[crackle]

Hi dafydd, it does as stated by Danger, feel slightly more bulky. I have not ridden with on yet, but like any safety kit, protection comes with some restriction. I am sure when us riders were first made to wear helmets, they felt bulky and annoying too! You just get used to them fast, or takle the risk without?
Cheers, Craig.

[dafydd roberts]

Hi dafydd, it does as stated by Danger, feel slightly more bulky. I have not ridden with on yet, but like any safety kit, protection comes with some restriction. I am sure when us riders were first made to wear helmets, they felt bulky and annoying too! You just get used to them fast, or takle the risk without?
Cheers, Craig.

I was looking through your catalogue I think the neck nut may be more suited to my type of riding, I think as effective as the full neck brace may be I think it would be too restrictive for me. What’s your opinion on the neck nut type brace?

[Ktmboy]

Well, IMHO, I don't think a neck brace would suit me or the riding I do. And this is probably a industry conception that these are really just good for MX and those guys (younger than thou) that throw their bikes and bodies off very steep slopes (jumps:dodge:)

Not that I'm agin them, as my young fella has one and I'm all for protecting them, but even he feels restricted on forestry rides/races wearing one. MX he is OK with wearing one but in the bush for 2-3 hrs is a different story.

Whats this neck nut thing Daff(new nick name for our welsh boyo)?

[Danger]

Have you tried to adjust the layers in the foam neck section for a better fit depending on your neck size? Might help with movement?


Funny thing is Craig that I read in the instruction book about fitting the different pads and apparantly the neck roll is supposed to have a zip to fit or remove the different inserts. My neck roll has no zip and I have no optional pads. But I'm really not concerned because the fit felt just right to me regardless. I'm about 87kg at the moment and use a large.

[Danger]

Well, IMHO, I don't think a neck brace would suit me or the riding I do.
Not that I'm agin them, as my young fella has one and I'm all for protecting them, but even he feels restricted on forestry rides/races wearing one. MX he is OK with wearing one but in the bush for 2-3 hrs is a different story.


Yeah Ktmboy, for those hot days stopping and pruning they would not be the best thing and I would leave mine off. Heck it would even be nice to leave the helmet off for those days. But for the days of riding without stopping where you run cooler (because we know you tend to heat up when the airflow stops) I will wear one. So even if its not worn for all occasions it will offer protection for those rides when it is worn.

[dafydd roberts]

Well, IMHO, I don't think a neck brace would suit me or the riding I do. And this is probably a industry conception that these are really just good for MX and those guys (younger than thou) that throw their bikes and bodies off very steep slopes (jumps:dodge:)

Not that I'm agin them, as my young fella has one and I'm all for protecting them, but even he feels restricted on forestry rides/races wearing one. MX he is OK with wearing one but in the bush for 2-3 hrs is a different story.

Whats this neck nut thing Daff(new nick name for our welsh boyo)?

I saw it on crackles site

http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/content/catalogueViewEntry.aspx?profilePK=all&entryPK=1245

small and compact and I’m sure would offer some type of protection,

How’s the toe?

[Danger]

A friend of mine used one of those neck rolls before he got his Leatt. One day while riding he lost it, I found it on doing another loop so put it on. It made me very hot (and this was a winter ride) and my goggles steamed up. Seems that it trapped all the hot air inside the helmet, effectively it was a seal at the base of the helmet. I took it off at the next stop.

[NordieBoy]

I've been riding with a Thor neck nut (a bit mor formed/shaped than the 661 one appeares to be) and was a bit worried at first as it felt a bit tight around my neck.
Once the race started (3-hour x-country) I forgot about it.
The only annoying thing for me is in winter I wear my Wulfsport enduro top with a high collar and you can't wear the collar up with it on.

[Danger]

If your doing slow rides like Wires track etc or just putt around like Ktmboy in the old timers class the chances of a high speed spill are very minimal. Most spills will be slow tip offs where the chances off hurting your neck are minimal. Generally you have a chance to put out an arm and roll so you only break your ribs or something perhaps. Also you tend to get hotter on these slower rides without the wind chill factor.
Its the faster rides where things happen quickly that one of these braces would be more likely to be a neck saver. Even hitting a tree could damage your neck with the right impact. The faster rides tend to be cooler so the heat factor is less of an issue.
Even if you only use one of these on a certain type of ride I think its worth having it available when needed.

[crackle]

I was looking through your catalogue I think the neck nut may be more suited to my type of riding, I think as effective as the full neck brace may be I think it would be too restrictive for me. What’s your opinion on the neck nut type brace?
Hi, the neck nut/foam roll is only the most basic of options and until now was the only cheaper alternative to the $1000 Leatt braces. I have never used one, but i will try the RC EVO when there is more stock as only 1 L left after a busy saturday at Treads.
http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/content/catalogueViewEntry.aspx?profilePK=all&entryPK=2995
Please note our retail is $290.
Cheers from Craig.

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Also the fit and adjustability of the RC evo is much better than the neck nut, so I can only assume it is less restrictive and less likely to ride up than a Neck Nut when fitted correctly?

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Funny thing is Craig that I read in the instruction book about fitting the different pads and apparantly the neck roll is supposed to have a zip to fit or remove the different inserts. My neck roll has no zip and I have no optional pads. But I'm really not concerned because the fit felt just right to me regardless. I'm about 87kg at the moment and use a large.
Hi Danger there is a thin soft flap concealing the tiny zip around the back lower edge of the rc evo collar... took me a while to find it, and like ya said the fit is ok anyway.
It is supposed to be vented and designed for airflow, but there is no way I would bother riding with one if I was marking out or stopping and walking all the time. I get hot enough as it is, even with just a tshirt under my jersey. I can never wear an enduro jacket, so I hope they don't get too hot.
CS

[Danger]

I'll have to have another close look.

Spent a few hours with the brace on again today at the Power Adventures ride. Didn't even notice the brace this time around, so overall I'm extremely happy with mine.

[Danger]

Ok thanks Craig, the zip is very cleverly concealed and there are 3 different pads in there, allowing fine tuning of the fit. Perhaps a good thing that I've now had a couple of rides with all the pads in place for maximum restriction of movement.
I mentioned that on the first ride I had to take my eyes off the trail when ducking my head to get under a branch. The removal of a pad or two could change this situation and I might try removing one for the next ride. For MX where there are no branches to duck I would use all 3 pads.

[timmehpwr]

got mine couriered from scott on Friday, just in time for a trail ride on sunday, cheers dude! I've never had a neck brace before but didn't have any problems riding with it, didn't bother taking any pads out or anything, I'm 5"11/88KG and ordered the large size and it fits sweet :)

I thought it might make it harder to look around, behind you etc but it wasn't a problem at all, just turn ya body a little bit more

pretty awesome value imo :rockon:

[Atomic]

So! Who is doing the best deal on EVS braces at the moment? And who has a medium in stock or not too far away?

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Hi, Cycletreads will be hard to beat, we have stock from today, but going fast, come in for the treads sell price which is better than the rrp of $349. Cheers from Craig

[scott411]

i have a few left at the old price of $299, give me a yell if you want one, the new stokc will be up to $349

[vazza]

Wicked as braces, love them! $300 is a friendly price to :)!

[Reckless]

Just for your Info

Looks like the Leatt Adventure has hit the market as well.

Just got this from BTO (Attached)

Page here http://www.btosports.com/p/LEATTADV