Bitch Bitch Bloody BP!

[ajturbo]

Just popped into a BP station this morning to fill up, and was half way threw the filling when this young man ( hehehe younger than me any way!) came up and said that I had to get off the bike! I said “no” I will fill it then get off and if you have a problem with that , tell the boss”…well he did, as I was paying for it! (in the shop…I had gotten off the bike by then!!!) the manager told me that if I didn’t get off the bike next time, I would have to fill some where else!!!! He said that it was a safety issue… now I have been filling that way for the last 27 years, the only mishap I had was when I filled it too much and had to wait, in the hot sun, for the KB’s!!!
Why is that a problem ??? or am I suddenly unable to fill my bike my way, because I’m dangerous?
or is it because i now live in tauranga and the M/Cs here are dangerous and the word has gotten out?

the other thing here is the fact that i have filled up at the gas station at least 10 times before!!!
looks like my last. no sweet as there are others...
there was gas station in welly where i was told to take off my helmit!!!
That also was a BP!!

[Blakamin]

Happened at the bp here to me... stopped filling (had $2 in) handed him the nozzle, gave the c*nt a coin and never went back.

in some parts of Aus if you wear your helmet into a servo they set off the alarm :shit:

[James Deuce]

It is courtesy to remove your helmet. Helmets have beed used as a face disguise in petrol station robberies many, many times.

As for sitting on your bike, the charging system dumps a crap load of current to earth through your bike frame. If you aren't earthed properly, and you touch something and get a spark while filling, the consequences aren't worth thinking about. I for one do not want to either toast my crotch or blow up.

[bear]

Same thing happened to me yesterday at a BP in Tawa, Wellington. I was told that if a spark or fire happened when I was filling up and sitting on the bike then I would be the earth and it wouldn't be pretty.
The dude said it was like one in three million chance but it has been known to happen. They also had some new signs up illustrating this policy.

[crazylittleshit]

I've had the same problem but then I looked into the facts. And like jim said It could become a very flamable situation.

And that gas station stocks the best 98octane.

[Sniper]

Ummm, I dont know, I get look but Im not too sure if many people in Blenheim are worried about blowing up :)

[jrandom]

Yup, it really is a safety issue. Think about crotch spillage and subsequent light-up or, as Jim says, vapour ignition in a cloud above the tank, right in your face. Gas station doesn't want to be dealing with charred, screaming, half-dead customers.

Always the best idea to step off before filling, can't blame the guys working there for making the rule.

I don't usually take my helmet off, but if I was filling late at night I'd do it to avoid scaring the crap out of the guy on duty. Common courtesy.

[Blakamin]

I wouldnt have got shitty but there were no signs, been going there for 6 months and the guy (never seen him before) had an attitude from hell!
bonus is now i use 91 and go to the mobil where they dont give a shit... I dont always stay on the bike but I like to have it be my choice... my bike, my sack!

[Sniper]

I wouldnt have got shitty but there were no signs, been going there for 6 months and the guy (never seen him before) had an attitude from hell!
bonus is now i use 91 and go to the mobil where they dont give a shit... I dont always stay on the bike but I like to have it be my choice... my bike, my sack!

You have a point there Blakamin. If the guy was nice about it I suppose a compromise could have been reached but if he had an attitude then I would have told him to piss off too.

[James Deuce]

I wouldnt have got shitty but there were no signs, been going there for 6 months and the guy (never seen him before) had an attitude from hell!
bonus is now i use 91 and go to the mobil where they dont give a shit... I dont always stay on the bike but I like to have it be my choice... my bike, my sack!
This is meant respectifully and not waspishly: Ever stop to think that he may have been bashed with an 18" crescent wrench by a dude wearing a helmet? Gas stations get robbed a lot more than any other retail outlet. I try to ooze non-threatening behaviour.

[750Y]

I had a guy turn the pump off when i arrived to fill up with my lid still on. thinking the pump was stuffed i rode round to the next pump which started to fill then stopped, then i realised it was the dick at the counter. long story short I insulted him in front of a line of customers & he threw me out of his station, lol. never went back...

[vifferman]

Been there, had this thread before:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=3099&highlight=station

[Blakamin]

This is meant respectifully and not waspishly: Ever stop to think that he may have been bashed with an 18" crescent wrench by a dude wearing a helmet?
Probably... with the attitude he had, very likely!
I dont mind taking my helmet off but his attitude about me sitting on my bike..farq him... the Duc doesnt like 98 anyway.
I try to ooze non-threatening behavior as well... the guys in the BP knew me (cept this dick). they didnt charge me for fuel one day coz they stuffed up... I went back when I realised I had more change than I should.. and they apologised and said thank you for your honesty and blah, blah,
That was reason I kept going there.. until "mr attitude". It was "get off your bike or i'll turn the pump off" not "hi, sorry but due to our new rules...."
lucky he didnt get a spanner around his head...(CBR had nowhere to put one)
I always took my helmet off to go pay until i realised you didnt have to... (WTF)
when I was in Aus they'd hit the alarm, stop the pumps and call the cops if you went in with a helmet on! (most parts of Melbourne anyway)

[vifferman]

I always took my helmet off to go pay until i realised you didnt have to.I was the exact opposite, and never took my helmet off until someone asked me to. Then reading the previous thread about this completely stuffed me up (by opening my eyes to the fact it's a policy at some stations, and by alerting me to the perceived 'threat'), so now I always take it off. Which is a friggin' pain! Especially when I used to wear a clear visor and sunglasses and gloves - too many things to fumble with / have to rearrange. Now I don't have a click-type buckle, it's very annoying. I was considering buying a flip-front just so I could leave it on.
At least now I don't have to fill up as often, as the VifFerarri can go further than 120km between fills. :blink:

Should I leave my helmet on unless asked to take it off? It would save a few minutes, the risk of dropping the thing, AND a lot of hassle.

[Cajun]

aj - what Bp was this at, only been asked twice at gas station i been asked to do this is bp chapel street, and i never been back there, and also shell on mt maungnni road(end of hewllits road) they turned the pumps off on me. told me i couldn't full up, i siad where you your signs saying that, they didn't have any, so told them go fuck themselfs and took off, handy thing is i was test riding a bike.

Only places i seen that have these signs is bp.

[Motu]

I never sit on my bike to fill - but always do that in the car...consistancy,that's all we want....

[jrandom]

I never sit on my bike to fill - but always do that in the car...

You sit on your bike to fill in the car, or you sit on your bike in the car to fill the car? Ambiguity, that's all we want...

[Blakamin]

Only places i seen that have these signs is bp.
me too... after the fact... gunna have a look at lunchtime at the mobil when I fill up! (astride my bike due to the fact if i straighten it up during filling without me on it the stand will do its thing and I'll have a bike in one hand and a nozzle in the other... and if I catch fire then, everyones fucked!)

[vifferman]

I've seen one sign of the "no helmets" variety, and that's all.

[Stinkwheeler]

I agree, they'd at least have the decency to put signs up or something, so someone doesn't have to trudge up and whine at you :bash: . Personally I've always taken off my helmet and dismounted (hee hee) before filling up the bike, but I'm one to take my time (and piss the hell out of other people at the station :bleh: )

Reminds me of the munter in the nissan patrol filling up behind me at BP last week. He had the engine running :stupid: . The "turn off your motor" sign was in plain view but he ignored it, despite me pointing it out. Idiotic thing is, no one employed at the petrol station told him to turn it off. Ah well, you see idiots like that every day. And that particular BP is the only place with 98 in Lower Hutt. Two strokes don't like the sulphur loaded low octane fuel NZ gets.

[manuboy]

never have that problem... not at a BP anyway, cos i've never been back after pulling in one morning for a coffee, and being told (in exact words) "you'll have to wait while i stock these shelves...". The girl in question was putting Sushi in the cabinet, at 8:30 on a Sunday morning.

Aside from the customer first issue, how many people are going to roll in and order sushi at that time of day on a sunday? So i waited, considered not paying and driving off (i'd explain when they called me after tracing my rego), waited some more, gave her the evils, finally got served. She couldn't make coffee to save herself either.

Looking back, some constructive criticism relayed to her boss might've helped, but probably not. Most managers these days seem to back their staff even when they obviously require a kick up the arse. Instead i've voted with my wallet - not that they'll ever miss me. :angry2:

back on topic

if they informed me why they were asking me to remove helmet / get off bike when i gassed up, i'd be happy to comply, but if it was outta the blue "do this or else" sort of approach - nah mate. catch ya later.....

[Holy Roller]

I'm sure this has been in other threads but most stations have little stickers warning not to sit astride a bike while fueling. Have been told off for talking on a cell phone at the door into the service station but that was at Gore.

[AMPS]

Welcome to the club ajturbo, they did the same to me only they turned the pump off too.
Now stand by to be told by all and sundry how dangerous it is to sit on your bike.
Funny how gas stations don't warn customers about back-flow from the filler. a splash of premium over the goolies isn't healthy either.
Here's an idea, fuel companies hire enough staff to do full service just like the old days.
Lou

[Hitcher]

Just popped into a BP station this morning to fill up, and was half way threw the filling when this young man ( hehehe younger than me any way!) came up and said that I had to get off the bike! I said “no” I will fill it then get off and if you have a problem with that , tell the boss”…well he did, as I was paying for it! (in the shop…I had gotten off the bike by then!!!) the manager told me that if I didn’t get off the bike next time, I would have to fill some where else!!!! He said that it was a safety issue… now I have been filling that way for the last 27 years, the only mishap I had was when I filled it too much and had to wait, in the hot sun, for the KB’s!!!
Why is that a problem ??? or am I suddenly unable to fill my bike my way, because I’m dangerous?
or is it because i now live in tauranga and the M/Cs here are dangerous and the word has gotten out?

the other thing here is the fact that i have filled up at the gas station at least 10 times before!!!
looks like my last. no sweet as there are others...
there was gas station in welly where i was told to take off my helmit!!!
That also was a BP!!
All I will say is that I agree with the forecourt attendant.

Anybody who sits on their bike while they fill it with petrol is, at the very least, a feckin idiot.

Why?
How much extra gas do you get in your bike while it's upright? 200mL??
How fast do you reckon you could get off if it caught fire?
Would you be wearing flammable clothing (e.g. cordura)?
Would you have remembered to put down the side stand?
Would you remember not to drop the gun?

Forecourt fires happen more regularly than people may think, particularly in cool, calm weather. The flash that sets everything off may not come from you or your bike (most likely from the cow on the cellphone in the Pajero), but the result will still be spectacular.

So for 200mL worth of gas, market value 20 cents, you're prepared to put in danger yourself, your bike, anybody else in the vicinity and god-knows how much worth of vehicles and service station hardware, than you are a feckin dickhead.

[thehollowmen]

me too... after the fact... gunna have a look at lunchtime at the mobil when I fill up! (astride my bike due to the fact if i straighten it up during filling without me on it the stand will do its thing and I'll have a bike in one hand and a nozzle in the other... and if I catch fire then, everyones fucked!)

Oh so *THATS* what all the duc owners mean by "suicide stands"

I was thinking it might drop while you do a left hand turn and prevent you from leaning...

Thankies :-P

[vifferman]

Instead i've voted with my wallet - not that they'll ever miss me.Same here.
The most convenient place for me to fill up is the Caltex at the end of our street, and I used it almost exclusively until some eedjit who worked there said he couldn't give me any cash on my EFTPOS because he'd just balanced the till or somesuch (shifts ended at 8 AM, I think, which is about the time I went past each day). And that's my problem, how...?
The second time he did this, I never went back, but I also told them what a dumb policy it was. Furthermore, I never use Caltex stations now unless I have to.

[bear]

Whatever the message (don't sit on your bike when you fill it, or take off your helmet), it always helps to have it delivered in a friendly way. And if service station attendants are constantly having to help people then maybe they need more, or clearer, signage.

The signage I saw advising not to sit in the bike while filling it was clear enough when I was directed to look at it, but wouldn't have seen it if it wasn't pointed out.

[rodgerd]

the other thing here is the fact that i have filled up at the gas station at least 10 times before!!!
looks like my last. no sweet as there are others...
there was gas station in welly where i was told to take off my helmit!!!
That also was a BP!!

BP in Wellington Central have never bothered me about my helmet, but they don't let me fill up sitting on the bike (bit of a pain, since I can't fill aaaaaall the way up).

They're most likely afraid some twat will spill petrol/drop the bike/otherwise self-immolate and then blame BP for it somehow being their fault.

[Blakamin]

Oh so *THATS* what all the duc owners mean by "suicide stands"

I was thinking it might drop while you do a left hand turn and prevent you from leaning...

Thankies :-P
Lol... ahh..yeah... auto-retraction is scary

Went to the Mobil...no signs about bikes ANYWHERE!!!! they've got the standard ones but no mention of bikes...even on the "saftey" pamphlet i read while I waited for someone to buy milk etc... :wacko:

btw... due to the angle of my stand, i got half a litre in when i stood the bike up on my CBR and 400mls on the Duc just then (even tho i sat on it, I had it on its stand so I could tell)

[Dr Bob]

You never know what danger lurks. Me for example.

My solenoid is rooted so I just short it out with my keyring when I want to start the beast. However, I am slightly considerate - I wheel my bike about 50m from the petrol station when I do it. What I don't need is petrol all over my tank when I do it. That's why noone but me fills my bike - I think this is a common theme, even if there is some service in a service station, they would rarely offer to fill up a bike.

[Blakamin]

So for 200mL worth of gas, market value 20 cents, you're prepared to put in danger yourself, your bike, anybody else in the vicinity and god-knows how much worth of vehicles and service station hardware, than you are a feckin dickhead.
What difference would it make if I was off the bike?? flames go woof, how is that gunna not put anyone else in danger ?
If my bike goes woof its gunna damage some shit (prolly me as well since I'd still be putting fuel in it) if i'm on it or not!!
and the day it happens while I'm fuelling up, I will apologise for being wrong.

also with the stand the way it is, I cant safely stand the bike up and then put it down again... If I could I might not sit on it.

I also choose a pump as far as possible from anyone, or the shop with the view that if a boyracer sped around the pump to park he'll have less chance of "not seeing" my bike coz it'll be too far from him to walk... I know... twisted logic, but I've seen it happen... the "ohh close to the shop" just to find a bike there about 2 seconds too late.

[vifferman]

Bikes vary, so Hitcher's comment about "an extra 200 ml" isn't always the case.

On the VFR750, it had a funny baffle in the tank, and putting in the last 0.5 to 1 litre (or not) meant taking it very slowly. (This is on the main stand, BTW).
On the FahrtSturm, it had such a small tank and prodigious thirst that every drop was precioussss, and no sidestand and a funny baffle thingo again meant filling was slow. Overfilled it several times, which meant that the petrol either ran down the overflow tube and out by the front of the engine (before I removed the overflow hose) or down the back of the engine (afterwards). Either way, it puddled on the forecourt.
The VifFerrari is a different kettle of kippers (prolly coz it's Pommy). It has a small 'unleaded fuel only' baffle thingo (technical term) in the tank (freaked me out the first time I filled up), which means you stick the nozzle in, and have no idea what's happening, coz you can't see.:eek5:
Squeeze the lever till back-pressure pings it off, then lift the nozzle a bit, repeat, lift, then do the last little bit till it's full up. Exxxxcelllennnnnt.... :yes:

[bear]

Okay, so if the attendant wants to to get off the bike to fill up, ask them to hold the handlebar on the other side, or seat, so you can stand it up straight to get in the last bit.

[ajturbo]

aj - what Bp was this at, only been asked twice at gas station i been asked to do this is bp chapel street, and i never been back there, and also shell on mt maungnni road(end of hewllits road) they turned the pumps off on me. told me i couldn't full up, i siad where you your signs saying that, they didn't have any, so told them go fuck themselfs and took off, handy thing is i was test riding a bike.

Only places i seen that have these signs is bp.

it was the one by the lights to the new bridge to the mount....
the manager wasn't very polite!!
he was very firm!
i didn't swear, just said good by! :finger:

[ajturbo]

the reason i sit while i fill is the fact that it is easier for me ! i pull up on the left side of the pump (i'm right handed) ...
:mad: :mad:
wanted to give a reply to hitcher, but have bitten my tounge (or was that nails seeing that i'm typing?)
you know the rules ...
arm wrestle, winner takes all!

[Cajun]

it was the one by the lights to the new bridge to the mount....
the manager wasn't very polite!!
he was very firm!
i didn't swear, just said good by! :finger:
Yup i know the bp, they have always done it there, but i have been to other bps, which have the sign, fulled up while sitting on the bike, and never had a problem,

[loosebruce]

I always get off to fill, depending on how much of a rush i'm in to weather i take my helmet off. Think of how slippery some forecourts are, i have almost dropped my bike getting off it when i put my foot down and it decided put me into the splits, it was a wet day and dont know what i stood in, oil, desiel, whatever, but more than a few times i've noticed at various petrol stations how slippery it could be.

[カワサキキド]

I was asked politely to take off my helmet last night at BP last night, first time somebody has said anything. He said he has been riding for 15 years so he knows what it's like...I just shruged..and I wasn't even wearing my sunglasses.

I always put my visor up, that should be enough.

[Yokai]

I always put my visor up, that should be enough.Flipfront helmet's rock... Nice to be able to keep lid on and still fill up and still be able to see the idiots in their cages try and crash over the bike still at the pump....


:argh:

Yo

[vifferman]

I always put my visor up, that should be enough.Not to easily identify you when your 'movie' is shown on TV...

I guess when you think about the helmet thing, and the "sitting on the bike to fill it up" thing from their point of view, they're in risk minimisation mode: if they allow bikers to do that, (a) the station owner could be in trouble if anything happens to you, and (b) there's more risk of guys on bikes that fill up, clunk it into gear and ride off.
Without paying.
Or hanging up the hose.
Or collecting FlyBuys / AA Rewards Points.
Or making a purchase from the wonderful, reasonably-priced goods on display in the station's shop.

[Blakamin]

Or making a purchase from the wonderful, reasonably-priced goods on display in the station's shop.
You just reminded me of the "Luxury Flake" melting in my jacket pocket thanks to Mobil's 2 for $2.50 deal :2thumbsup

[crashe]

I always get off my bike to refuel - its easier. :2thumbsup

I used to take my helmet off when entering the gas station shop.... as the sign was on the door. But lately I have been leaving it on.... if asked to remove it I would do so straight away.... but since I usually go to the same garage, they know me. :love2:
I have been into other garages when travelling and so far never been asked.... and I tend to go to BP. Only occassionally I go to Shell or Caltex.

I have seen other riders sitting on the bikes and refueling, but no one has ever come out and asked them to get off their bikes. :ride:

When my local BP is finally rebuilt in Dec I shall look out for signs to say that riders cant sit on their bikes, as I have never seen that sign. :blank:

It is a pain to have to get the sunnies and the helmet off and the gloves to refuel.. and then to pay. At the moment I just lift up the visor. :shit:

[Slim]

I noticed that Caltex Tauriko has a strip of "Don't" emblems on the uprights by the pumps & one of the signs is the "don't sit on your motorbike while you're filling it" one. My bike has a centrestand, which I use, so it's not really a problems.

I've never been asked to remove my helmet. I have the visor up, my gloves off & the wallet open, and possibly the rabbit ears help too. ;)

I don't let any forecourt attendant fill my bike - I like the paint on the tank just where it is, thanks very much.

[Cajun]

I noticed that Caltex Tauriko has a strip of "Don't" emblems on the uprights by the pumps & one of the signs is the "don't sit on your motorbike while you're filling it" one. My bike has a centrestand, which I use, so it's not really a problems.

I've never been asked to remove my helmet. I have the visor up, my gloves off & the wallet open, and possibly the rabbit ears help too. ;)

I don't let any forecourt attendant fill my bike - I like the paint on the tank just where it is, thanks very much.
I have beening going to Caltex Tauriko for 7 years parents in law for past 15 years i first worked there when i moved to tauranga, we know the owners rather well, never been asked anything there about getting off

[Paul in NZ]

Sorry..

I'm not gettin' any of this.. The experts (fuel companies) suggest that you should not do something because there is a remote possibility you could blow the whole suburb to kingdom come and they are a bunch of wankers for requesting you not to? Stuff me, I wouldn't be polite about it.

Working in a gas station is not a hell of a lot of fun and often does not attract brain surgeons or the upwardly mobile customer service rep. Don't expect them to be polite all the time, it's a rotten job sometimes dealing with customers.

If it was my station I would not like you sittin on your bike ('cos you might piss off without paying) either and i would definately send out one of the Igors to remonstrate with you. It's a little thing....

Paul N

Nope - still not gettin it....

[vifferman]

i would definately send out one of the Igors to remonstrate with you.:lol:
Very good, Mr Paul.

[Blakamin]

Sorry..

I'm not gettin' any of this.. The experts (fuel companies) suggest that you should not do something because there is a remote possibility you could blow the whole suburb to kingdom come and they are a bunch of wankers for requesting you not to? Stuff me, I wouldn't be polite about it.

But how about if the first time you hear about it and its some complete Igor goin off his nuts... I dont care if he's a brian surgeon, tree surgeon or pump jockey.. be polite!!! f*ck, imagine if he worked in the hospitality or tourist industry and acted like a prick???
a little "excuse me, dont you know you're not allowed to do that" followed by a point to the sign would have made the world of difference to me... f*ck him.. If someone just walks up and starts abusing me they can go get f*cked... geez, it's not like I was smoking at the same time!
(damn full-face helmet!!) :whistle:

[Sniper]

Hmm8 people reading tis thread right now

[dangerous]

It is courtesy to remove your helmet.
As for sitting on your bike, the charging system dumps a crap load of current to earth through your bike frame. If you aren't earthed properly, and you touch something and get a spark while filling, the consequences aren't worth thinking about. I for one do not want to either toast my crotch or blow up.
common sence to me.... you would think that even a dumb ass would under stand that aye


Which is a friggin' pain! Especially when I used to wear a clear visor and sunglasses and gloves - too many things to fumble with / have to rearrange. Now I don't have a click-type buckle, it's very annoying.
and how much time out of your life does it take to remove all that?


so told them go fuck themselfs and took off
well that mate in my books, puts you down to there level.


Reminds me of the munter in the nissan patrol filling up behind me at BP last week. He had the engine running :stupid:
ummm... diesel was it? they dont have HT leads/plugs to ignite the vapour & was most likely on a turbo timer.


All I will say is that I agree with the forecourt attendant.

Anybody who sits on their bike while they fill it with petrol is, at the very least, a feckin idiot.

Why?
How much extra gas do you get in your bike while it's upright? 200mL??
How fast do you reckon you could get off if it caught fire?
Would you be wearing flammable clothing (e.g. cordura)?
Would you have remembered to put down the side stand?
Would you remember not to drop the gun?

Forecourt fires happen more regularly than people may think, particularly in cool, calm weather. The flash that sets everything off may not come from you or your bike (most likely from the cow on the cellphone in the Pajero), but the result will still be spectacular.

So for 200mL worth of gas, market value 20 cents, you're prepared to put in danger yourself, your bike, anybody else in the vicinity and god-knows how much worth of vehicles and service station hardware, than you are a feckin dickhead.
And that sir sounds reasonble to me.... 10 out a 10 H


They're most likely afraid some twat will spill petrol/drop the bike/otherwise self-immolate and then blame BP for it somehow being their fault.
ahhh huh.... some one thats on to it.


What difference would it make if I was off the bike?? flames go woof, how is that gunna not put anyone else in danger ?
If my bike goes woof its gunna damage some shit (prolly me as well since I'd still be putting fuel in it) if i'm on it or not!!
and the day it happens while I'm fuelling up, I will apologise for being wrong.

refure to the 1st quote above to answer ya 1st line... and as for your last line, well duh.... how dumb is that.


I always get off to fill, Think of how slippery some forecourts are, i have almost dropped my bike getting off it when i put my foot down and it decided put me into the splits
hey more common sence..... Ive seen it happen and bloody near done it my self.

[dangerous]

Sorry..

I'm not gettin' any of this.. The experts (fuel companies) suggest that you should not do something because there is a remote possibility you could blow the whole suburb to kingdom come and they are a bunch of wankers for requesting you not to? Stuff me, I wouldn't be polite about it.

Working in a gas station is not a hell of a lot of fun and often does not attract brain surgeons or the upwardly mobile customer service rep. Don't expect them to be polite all the time, it's a rotten job sometimes dealing with customers.

If it was my station I would not like you sittin on your bike ('cos you might piss off without paying) either and i would definately send out one of the Igors to remonstrate with you. It's a little thing....

Paul N

Nope - still not gettin it....
LOL..... you and me Paul


But how about if the first time you hear about it and its some complete Igor goin off his nuts... I dont care if he's a brian surgeon, tree surgeon or pump jockey.. be polite!!! f*ck, imagine if he worked in the hospitality or tourist industry and acted like a prick???

a little "excuse me, dont you know you're not allowed to do that" followed by a point to the sign would have made the world of difference to me... f*ck him.. If someone just walks up and starts abusing me they can go get f*cked... geez, it's not like I was smoking at the same time!
(damn full-face helmet!!) :whistle:
can you not put your self above all that shit? if he wants to be a prick, let him and as for your 1st pargraph, I doubt very much that he would work in hospitality or tourist industry well not after his 1st day anyhow... proberly why he works in a servo.

[Ms Piggy]

I try to ooze non-threatening behaviour.
Oh but you do, you dooooo. :lol:

[Ms Piggy]

I'm sure this has been in other threads but most stations have little stickers warning not to sit astride a bike while fueling. Have been told off for talking on a cell phone at the door into the service station but that was at Gore.
Yeah I was told off for using my mobile in a service station, when I was in the shop ???? It is a safety issue and who needs to be reinforcing the biker stereotypes of us being inconsiderate a-holes. ;)

[sAsLEX]

in a rush i hate having to take off my helmet, especially if I am wearing glasses at the time, so I go to the night time pay window there is at most BP's, but guess waht?? THe geniuses (sp?) cant stretch the eftpos thingo to the window, so I just walk in past the no helmet sign and pay in helmet.

Oh and they prob wouldnt get your plate if you drive in towards the station as they point out from the store!! not suggesting drive aways here!

[Zapf]

yea I have the same issue specially wearing glasses all the time. Its pain to take your glasses off, then your helmet, then glasses back on. And get your wallet out at the same time without droping your gloves....! :argh:

[Paul in NZ]

But how about if the first time you hear about it and its some complete Igor goin off his nuts... I dont care if he's a brian surgeon, tree surgeon or pump jockey.. be polite!!! f*ck, imagine if he worked in the hospitality or tourist industry and acted like a prick???
a little "excuse me, dont you know you're not allowed to do that" followed by a point to the sign would have made the world of difference to me... f*ck him.. If someone just walks up and starts abusing me they can go get f*cked... geez, it's not like I was smoking at the same time!
(damn full-face helmet!!) :whistle:

Well.... If I was astride a potential fireball and some Igor ran up going off his nut (possible slight exaggeration here but allowed for a good story) I would think (in order).

1. Woss your bloody problem you tosser...
2. Hmmm Maybe he's trying to tell me some thing important and vital and it involves me not blowing us all to bits.

Perhaps our rabid Igor has just seen a safety movie from the company and is actually quite upset that you are endangering his life? Just a thought??

NOW.... True Story Time....

A few years back I worked in Malaysia for 5 months or so.

One night we were sitting having dinner in the restaurant of the old Federal hotel behind a huge plate glass window… Across the road was a busy service station on the main drag of the 'entertainment' district..

We observed an Igoric attendant over fill a small car and spill some petrol on the forecourt and footpath.

We observed a very thick local throw away one of those nasty 'burns very quickly' local cigarettes (hand rolled on the inner thigh of a dusky and possibly disease ridden maiden).

We observed a small petrol fire right at the pump. (getting bigger)

We observed the clever ans swift acting trainee Igor attendant attempt to extinguish the fire with a bucket of water (well it used to be water before standing in their atmosphere for half a day).

We observed the fire quickly become a very large spread out fire that was now spilling out onto the street and burning at least 3 foot high and giving off a LOT of light. And did the traffic even stop? (well 2 or 3 of the scooters rode around it) Nope!

This was friggin’ hilarious as at one stage half the road was on fire!

Eventually the local head Igor managed to find an extinguisher that worked and that coupled with the diminishing (crappy) fuel supply and the lack of actual oxygen in the air put out the fire and we returned to our meals thoroughly entertained by some more Asian city street madness…

Ha ha

Then we thought about it for a bit…. We clever clogs highly educated smart bastards westerners were watching a potential service station explosion that would have torn out the front of our building apart from behind a very breakable glass window that would have shredded us like month old lettuce…..

Ah hem….

Yes! Some times we need to be shouted at!!!

[Paul in NZ]

in a rush i hate having to take off my helmet, especially if I am wearing glasses at the time, !

I hate taking my helmet off too but it's all the screaming and the fainting and the "oh he's not possibly human' and stuff...

The laughing and snickering I can handle...

[scumdog]

DON'T get off my bike, DON'T take off my helmet, I put the gas in, Crissy-Bimbo goes into the office and pays and we ride off. End of story. :spudwave:

[Blakamin]

Well.... If I was astride a potential fireball and some Igor ran up going off his nut (possible slight exaggeration here but allowed for a good story) I would think (in order).

1. Woss your bloody problem you tosser...
2. Hmmm Maybe he's trying to tell me some thing important and vital and it involves me not blowing us all to bits.

Perhaps our rabid Igor has just seen a safety movie from the company and is actually quite upset that you are endangering his life? Just a thought??

NOW.... True Story Time....

A few years back I worked in Malaysia for 5 months or so.

One night we were sitting having dinner in the restaurant of the old Federal hotel behind a huge plate glass window… Across the road was a busy service station on the main drag of the 'entertainment' district..

We observed an Igoric attendant over fill a small car and spill some petrol on the forecourt and footpath.

We observed a very thick local throw away one of those nasty 'burns very quickly' local cigarettes (hand rolled on the inner thigh of a dusky and possibly disease ridden maiden).

We observed a small petrol fire right at the pump. (getting bigger)

We observed the clever ans swift acting trainee Igor attendant attempt to extinguish the fire with a bucket of water (well it used to be water before standing in their atmosphere for half a day).

We observed the fire quickly become a very large spread out fire that was now spilling out onto the street and burning at least 3 foot high and giving off a LOT of light. And did the traffic even stop? (well 2 or 3 of the scooters rode around it) Nope!

This was friggin’ hilarious as at one stage half the road was on fire!

Eventually the local head Igor managed to find an extinguisher that worked and that coupled with the diminishing (crappy) fuel supply and the lack of actual oxygen in the air put out the fire and we returned to our meals thoroughly entertained by some more Asian city street madness…

Ha ha

Then we thought about it for a bit…. We clever clogs highly educated smart bastards westerners were watching a potential service station explosion that would have torn out the front of our building apart from behind a very breakable glass window that would have shredded us like month old lettuce…..

Ah hem….

Yes! Some times we need to be shouted at!!!


FARQ!!!..

Point taken...and I will now endevour to get off my bike the moment I get DucatiSuicideStand™ fixed.... which will be when I can get my hands on a grinder... :thud: grinder+Ducati = :cry:

[dangerous]

yea I have the same issue specially wearing glasses all the time. Its pain to take your glasses off, then your helmet, then glasses back on. And get your wallet out at the same time without droping your gloves....! :argh:
fuk this makes me laugh........ so is it a pain to drop ya daks before you take a shit???? or do ya shit in ya pants............ think about it :gob:

[mangell6]

Whomever believes that this is about "safety" has succumbed to the wild rantings and ravings of the "mights", "may", "possibility", "could" protagonists who bombard us everyday with the remote possibilities of something terrible happening.

3½ years ago the BP station attendant asked me to hop of my bike to refuel, he explained simply that it is an OSH issue. He explained, I complied and have done ever since because it suits me with having a tankbag.

The legal problems IF in the unlikely event that a petrol spill MAY occur and MAY travel as far as something hot and COULD ignite are what is driving this move by BP.

Somewhere at a BP station someone has "identified a risk" and BP is required by NZ law to do something about it, they have.

I do not normally remove my helmet when paying for gas, I have removed it the only single time I have been asked, regarding identity there are enough cameras at gas stations to have movie time. Try not paying sometime and watch what happens.

As far as dickheads causing themselves injury I refer you to the Stella Awards (http://www.StellaAwards.com) web pages.

Mike

[dangerous]

NOW.... True Story Time....

And another.... when I was in Brisbane I had to atend a safty course, during this course a few vidio clips were showen, a couple being of servo fires..... thes wernt caused by bike fill ups but cell phones going off, One poor bastards head cought fire and another whos Ph rang in his pocket while filling up had servere burns to his waist and legs.............. so it DOES happen, not often but just goes to show that thes rules a made for a reason.

[James Deuce]

Whomever believes that this is about "safety" has succumbed to the wild rantings and ravings of the "mights", "may", "possibility", "could" protagonists who bombard us everyday with the remote possibilities of something terrible happening.

Mike

One hears what you are saying, however having been the butt of more than my fair share of "Murphy" experiences, I prefer to abide whatever safety rules are pointed out to me, irrespective of their apparent pointlessness.

Plus without this thread, we wouldn't have been able to observe Paul's with at its finest.

[Hitcher]

What difference would it make if I was off the bike?? flames go woof, how is that gunna not put anyone else in danger ?
If my bike goes woof its gunna damage some shit (prolly me as well since I'd still be putting fuel in it) if i'm on it or not!!
and the day it happens while I'm fuelling up, I will apologise for being wrong.
Jeez, there's always one, isn't there. Reflexes faster than light, senses honed finer than a merino fibre...

At least if you're not on the bike, it's not going to fall over when your flaming body leaps off, thereby spilling several litres of liquid petroleum to have its full calorific potential realised.

[Hitcher]

Bikes vary, so Hitcher's comment about "an extra 200 ml" isn't always the case.
20 cents or $1... Is that an error factor of 80% in my hypothesis? I think not.

[Hitcher]

the reason i sit while i fill is the fact that it is easier for me ! i pull up on the left side of the pump (i'm right handed) ...
I'm an equal-opportunity ranter. Whether you're a left-handed feckin idiot or a right-handed one makes absolutely no difference to me whatsoever!

[Hitcher]

But how about if the first time you hear about it and its some complete Igor goin off his nuts... I dont care if he's a brian surgeon, tree surgeon or pump jockey.. be polite!!! f*ck, imagine if he worked in the hospitality or tourist industry and acted like a prick???
So how should somebody react when Bozo the Brainless is standing on a feckin great bomb and doing patently dumb stuff? Telling somebody to cease and desist is probably a good start. If whiney-arse-crybabies need to have the facts of life (or in this case death) rationalised to them and given a kiss on both cheeks and a lollipop, then they should wake up and smell the petrol fumes...

[bear]

Well, after all this chatter - I'm converted. Will be dismounting prior to refuelling. Not sure on the helmet though, depends what the petrol station dudes want I suppose.

[avgas]

i no like explosives on balls

[Blakamin]

If whiney-arse-crybabies need to have the facts of life (or in this case death) rationalised to them and given a kiss on both cheeks and a lollipop, then they should wake up and smell the petrol fumes...
I'd believe that if it happened every day, but FFS, I used to work in a servo in the 80s and smoke round the pumps... I dont do it now.... but theres no need to get that upset about it... after all, it would be me that blows up, not you :bye:
As i said earlier, the mobil doesnt even have signs... so maybe i should obey them at one servo coz theres a sign and not another??? coz mobil says its alright???
shit, people get hit by busses, do we not cross the street? :calm:

[KATWYN]

Just popped into a BP station this morning to fill up, and was half way threw the filling when this young man ( hehehe younger than me any way!) came up and said that I had to get off the bike! I said “no” I will fill it then get off and if you have a problem with that , tell the boss”…well he did,

Training staff on diplomacy with the customers would be a good start for that gas station.

[Storm]

I always take my lid off after having an attendant tell me it was store policy and that he'd been robbed by someone who looked just like me with my lid on obviously. Ever since I have done so

[WINJA]

I was asked politely to take off my helmet last night at BP last night, first time somebody has said anything. He said he has been riding for 15 years so he knows what it's like...I just shruged..and I wasn't even wearing my sunglasses.

I always put my visor up, that should be enough.
KAWASAKI KIDO??? I DONT THINK SO

[Blakamin]

Well, after all this chatter - I'm converted. Will be dismounting prior to refuelling.
I said that before, but my one experience has enflamed people :confused:


I understand what you are saying Hitcher, but if ANYONE walks up to me with an attitude, they are gunna get one back, full stop end of story... I have missing teeth and scars on my from sitting around doing nothing, so I gave that up years ago :calm:

[Gixxer]

I wouldnt have got shitty but there were no signs, been going there for 6 months and the guy (never seen him before) had an attitude from hell!
bonus is now i use 91 and go to the mobil where they dont give a shit... I dont always stay on the bike but I like to have it be my choice... my bike, my sack!

Yeah, had the same at the BP in Taka on Lake road, the manager came out with an attitude, and started crapping on about how his friend burnt up etc, told him his mate was a dick, and to piss off, when I went to pay he started up again, gave him the who gives a shit routine.
Only reason I got shitty was his dick head attitude.
I always get off my bike now, just in case, but there is no need to be a cock 24/7

[crashe]

Yeah, had the same at the BP in Taka on Lake road, the manager came out with an attitude, and started crapping on about how his friend burnt up etc, told him his mate was a dick, and to piss off, when I went to pay he started up again, gave him the who gives a shit routine.
Only reason I got shitty was his dick head attitude.
I always get off my bike now, just in case, but there is no need to be a cock 24/7

I have been into that BP garage a few times... had no problems there at all... must be a different manager.... never been asked to take off my helmet in there at all.
They tend to move the managers around to different BPs quite a bit.....

[NordieBoy]

It is courtesy to remove your helmet.
As for sitting on your bike, the charging system dumps a crap load of current to earth through your bike frame. If you aren't earthed properly, and you touch something and get a spark while filling, the consequences aren't worth thinking about. I for one do not want to either toast my crotch or blow up.

And this is different for a car how?

I always get off the bike but that's just how I fill up and not through thinking about it.
Never take the helmet off and never been asked to.

Now being told that "You have to wear shoes or leave" in restaurants and nightclubs can get annoying especially when they have no signs and don't explain why (Getting bundled out of the nightclub and the bouncer won't let you explain that you're actually there to fix the computer :yeah: )

[MacD]

Not sure if I got this video clip from Kiwibiker or not, but here's another look (http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/macc/media/) anyhow if I did?

I imagine the woman got quite a surprise!

[James Deuce]

And this is different for a car how?

I always get off the bike but that's just how I fill up and not through thinking about it.
Never take the helmet off and never been asked to.

Now being told that "You have to wear shoes or leave" in restaurants and nightclubs can get annoying especially when they have no signs and don't explain why (Getting bundled out of the nightclub and the bouncer won't let you explain that you're actually there to fix the computer :yeah: )


Well for one thing I don't own a car that I can stay IN to fill via a hole between my legs.

[almonster]

its not a good idea to fill the tank to the very top unless you like fuel coming out your beather did this one day to find fuel blowing in my face going down the road it was pumping up the brether which was fixed on the bars not nice most tanks have a tube in the filler you are not to fill past the bottem of it for this reason never remove my lid never been asked to but never go to bp as they dont take cheques

[ajturbo]

DON'T get off my bike, DON'T take off my helmet, I put the gas in, Crissy-Bimbo goes into the office and pays and we ride off. End of story. :spudwave:

umm have they power down your way yet?, or are all the pumps, hand pumped? :confused: :confused: :ride: :ride:

[Stinkwheeler]

ummm... diesel was it? they dont have HT leads/plugs to ignite the vapour & was most likely on a turbo timer.

A turbo timer on a nissan patrol :lol: Those guys in evos better watch out. Yes, yes I see the practicality in it. You'd need to flog it non stop to make it go anywhere, which would no doubt fry the turbo (still doesn't stop other owners from driving around with buggered turbos/buggered everything, but I must admit I never thought of it).

But no suck luck, he had the green handle firmly wedged into its rear quarter.

What a thread. What a contrast of views. I applaud.

[scumdog]

umm have they power down your way yet?, or are all the pumps, hand pumped? :confused: :confused: :ride: :ride:

Hey, I don't think you should be using the term "hand pump" :laugh: :bleh:

[vifferman]

20 cents or $1... Is that an error factor of 80% in my hypothesis? I think not.No. But then I've never filled my bike while sitting on it anyway, although I did start to try it once - it was very, very awkward! So while it may have appeared that I was giving tacit approval to those who did so to squeeze the last little bit into their tanks, that wasn't my intention. I was merely pointing out that on some bikes it's not just the last 200ml that's hard to squeeze in, it's the last litre or thereabouts.

And almonster - I almost always fill my bikes to the very top, sometimes so it's running down the overflow, because they're civilised and don't spray petrol in my face via some mental breather design. :Pokey:

Here's some extra bits you can insert in your post to punctuate it and correct the spelling. (NO, no need to thank me - I do this for a living :) ):

I ' , r . D . ; a , . N ! M : . N , . B I BP ' .

[Paul in NZ]

DON'T get off my bike, DON'T take off my helmet, I put the gas in, Crissy-Bimbo goes into the office and pays and we ride off. End of story. :spudwave:

Far out... Imagine having to ride a harley and never being allowed to go for a ride by yourself. I feels for ya man.... :msn-wink:

Paul N

(running and hiding from the law)

[RiderInBlack]

When I stopped to fill the gas bottle yesterday, I saw the sort of Idoits that the poor old service station attendants must have to deal with on a regular bais.
Wally 1 was talking on his cellphone:mobile: while trying to full his "cage". Was ask by the Attentant to move away from the pump while using the cellphone. This he did, for awhile, but (while still using his CPh) headed back to the pump. No surprise that he was asked to take it away from the pump again. Mean while his mate (Wally 2) was just sitting in the "cage". Did he think to help his mate out by filling the "cage" while his mate was busy on the CPh, NO. Wally 1 walks back to the pump still talking on the CPh, hungs-up and then fills his "cage". As Wally 1 goes to pay for the fuel, Wally 2 lights up in the "cage" still by the pump:gob: :crazy: :wacko: :brick:

I didn't know whether I should laugh at their supidity:laugh: , rip into them:mad: , or run like f*ck:scooter: .

[denill]

Sorry..

I'm not gettin' any of this.. The experts (fuel companies) suggest that you should not do something because there is a remote possibility you could blow the whole suburb to kingdom come and they are a bunch of wankers for requesting you not to? Stuff me, I wouldn't be polite about it...

But Paul -In the remote chance you blow the whole suburb to kingdom come (<I>It doesn't happen often, fortunately</I>) if you are sitting on the bike or standing beside it, it would be like a bad day in the '60s in Vietnam for EVERYONE in the immediate vicinity. :bye: :bye:

I guess a lot of the previous comments are from people like me - they don't like being told what to do - unless it is in a congenial manner...........

Wanna be Hitlers are not my favourite people. :argh:

[RiderInBlack]

Everything I need to say here I've said before is this thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=49621&postcount=18:brick:

[Skyryder]

Always get off when filling up. Cant run very fast if something goes wrong while sitting on the bike. Besides you gota get off to pay so why not before the fill. Usually keep my helmut on but lift up the visor.

Skyryder

[dangerous]

But Paul -In the remote chance you blow the whole suburb to kingdom come (<I>It doesn't happen often, fortunately</I>) if you are sitting on the bike or standing beside it, it would be like a bad day in the '60s in Vietnam for EVERYONE in the immediate vicinity. :bye: :bye:

Geezzzzzzz................ some people are thick :rolleyes: one point of the rules/regs is that we, yes us bikers... could slip on whats often a slipry forcourt while filling up on the bike.
Think about it.......... what could happen....... the bike goes down, you go down, both go down, either way I cant see how you would be able to hang on to the fuel filler and not spill a drop from the tank............ hell isent it easier to do all we can to prevent an incedent?

BTW.... I have seen this happen, but as the rider was off the bike they let go of the triger the bike stayed up right the hose hit the ground with very little spilage and the rider ended up with a sprained ancle... and a wee dent in the tank.
This is also why I dont chose a deisel pump to fill the bike up with... not with deisel, you know what I mean.

[Bazza]

Just returned to riding after 4 years, read somewhere,(possibly on this site...) you NOW had to fill up off the bike, same as using cell phones in forecourts which is now illegal overseas (due to an explosion..) makes sense and is safer.

As far taking your helmet, I always thought you had to by law ? Most stations I go to used to have signs asking you to.

Have wondered though, how much more gas the firestorm would take if it was upright as it filled...as the fuel gauge is hugely inaccurate!

[Bazza]

Maybe it was banks the signs were...

[scumdog]

Far out... Imagine having to ride a harley and never being allowed to go for a ride by yourself. I feels for ya man.... :msn-wink:

Paul N

(running and hiding from the law)

Far out....."never being allowed" takes in the premise that I would want to ride by myself!
Chrissy-Bimbo and I are joined at the hip (rude way as well) except when I go hunting. :cool2:

[Paul in NZ]

Far out....."never being allowed" takes in the premise that I would want to ride by myself!
Chrissy-Bimbo and I are joined at the hip (rude way as well) except when I go hunting. :cool2:

Dude... Ya took long enough to bite..... :whistle:

Paul N

[Ghost Lemur]

Dude... Ya took long enough to bite..... :whistle:

Paul N

He was too busy being bitten. :eek5: :Pokey:

[scumdog]

[QUOTE=Paul in NZ]Dude... Ya took long enough to bite..... :whistle:

Paul N[/QUOTE

Hey man, glad you told me it was a bite! Didn't even know you were fishing :blah: :msn-wink: ]

[Stevo]

Why the Fook should BP give a rats arse if they are they planets biggest arseholes? I heard on Radio sport news last week that they make $2 billion PROFIT............................EVERY DAY!! Guess when you are such a wealthy kinda company you can make the rules. And people need gas. It is that simple!

[ajturbo]

hahahahahaha.

got the radar detector :finger: :Police:

gotcha BP..
stoped at the auto bann today, and WITHOUT getting off the bike filled up at the BP there.... now did anyone come running out and point out the error of my way?
HELL NO
was it because they didn't see me?
NO
it was because it was rainning!!!!

gota thank riff raff 4 coming out for a coffee on my way home!!
(in her car...)

[inlinefour]

Just popped into a BP station this morning to fill up, and was half way threw the filling when this young man ( hehehe younger than me any way!) came up and said that I had to get off the bike! I said “no” I will fill it then get off and if you have a problem with that , tell the boss”…well he did, as I was paying for it! (in the shop…I had gotten off the bike by then!!!) the manager told me that if I didn’t get off the bike next time, I would have to fill some where else!!!! He said that it was a safety issue… now I have been filling that way for the last 27 years, the only mishap I had was when I filled it too much and had to wait, in the hot sun, for the KB’s!!!
Why is that a problem ??? or am I suddenly unable to fill my bike my way, because I’m dangerous?
or is it because i now live in tauranga and the M/Cs here are dangerous and the word has gotten out?

the other thing here is the fact that i have filled up at the gas station at least 10 times before!!!
looks like my last. no sweet as there are others...
there was gas station in welly where i was told to take off my helmit!!!
That also was a BP!!


I'd tell them to get a grip as it is safer to hold a bike up with two legs rather than one side stand. I'll have to try it at my local BPs. Was at Masterton and filling up the diesel Surf. Some little pimply teenage soand so could not be told to slowly fill my tank to ensure a good fill and avoid frothing. Told the littleyouknowwhat where to go in the end and suggested that the manager hire better staff. Their reply, dont give a toss! Get used to it people, its the way of the modern world, lets nuke it before it gets worse!!! :devil2:

[Hitcher]

I'd tell them to get a grip as it is safer to hold a bike up with two legs rather than one side stand. I'll have to try it at my local BPs. Was at Masterton and filling up the diesel Surf. Some little pimply teenage soand so could not be told to slowly fill my tank to ensure a good fill and avoid frothing. Told the littleyouknowwhat where to go in the end and suggested that the manager hire better staff. Their reply, dont give a toss! Get used to it people, its the way of the modern world, lets nuke it before it gets worse!!!
Please remind me what country you said you represented in the 2002 Wanking Olympics? Another medal-winning performance.

[dangerous]

I'd tell them to get a grip as it is safer to hold a bike up with two legs rather than one side stand.
what a fuking load a shit......... I think that its your attude here that needs to get a grip :stupid:


...... but I have to ask, how the hell do you figger that? and did you feel tough hasseling the little pimply teenage so and so? :doh:


BTW.... I am aware of how you play

interesting comments, knew I'd get some bites, trolling works well here. I'll settle down and cruise now. :scooter:

[NordieBoy]

its not a good idea to fill the tank to the very top unless you like fuel coming out your beather did this one day to find fuel blowing in my face going down the road it was pumping up the brether which was fixed on the bars not nice most tanks have a tube in the filler you are not to fill past the bottem of it for this reason never remove my lid never been asked to but never go to bp as they dont take cheques

Suzuki Savage.
Fuel cap on right side of tank.
Fill bike up whilst on the side stand.
Ride along with fuel oozing out of the cap all over your leg :no:

[inlinefour]

what a fuking load a shit......... I think that its your attude here that needs to get a grip :stupid:


...... but I have to ask, how the hell do you figger that? and did you feel tough hasseling the little pimply teenage so and so? :doh:


BTW.... I am aware of how you play


Who are you and whats your problem? I don't play and if I did it would not be with an idiot like you. Experience forms our knowledge base and anyone who has run a truck/boat etc that runs on deisel will know what I'm getting at. I attempted to advise the boy first, little youknowwhat knew better, so I told him to piss off and let me do it myself. If you cant see the logic in that, well thats your problem. Dont come from Wellington buy any chance? :killingme :whocares: :shake: :P :tugger:

[ajturbo]

Who are you and whats your problem? I don't play and if I did it would not be with an idiot like you. Experience forms our knowledge base and anyone who has run a truck/boat etc that runs on deisel will know what I'm getting at. I attempted to advise the boy first, little youknowwhat knew better, so I told him to piss off and let me do it myself. If you cant see the logic in that, well thats your problem. Dont come from Wellington buy any chance? :killingme :whocares: :shake: :P :tugger:


:Offtopic: i know.. but this thing with the deisels... i have one, ..how do you fill it to stop it frothing up all over the place?
andy

[inlinefour]

:Offtopic: i know.. but this thing with the deisels... i have one, ..how do you fill it to stop it frothing up all over the place?
andy


fill it as slow as possible.There are two locking clips on standard bowsers, use the one that'll make it go the slowest. As for hitchers comment, you obviously have a hand on it yourself. :shake:

[Blakamin]

Please remind me what country you said you represented in the 2002 Wanking Olympics? Another medal-winning performance.
:laugh: :laugh: :lol: :lol: :killingme :killingme :done:

The more I read that, the funnier it got! :2thumbsup

[Dodgyiti]

It is courtesy to remove your helmet. Helmets have beed used as a face disguise in petrol station robberies many, many times.

As for sitting on your bike, the charging system dumps a crap load of current to earth through your bike frame. If you aren't earthed properly, and you touch something and get a spark while filling, the consequences aren't worth thinking about. I for one do not want to either toast my crotch or blow up.

Absolutely fair call
I deal with solvents and petrochemicals, and these things really do happen.
Earth everything when pouring fuels and solvents, and it's not just the bikes electrics either, we have had mishaps from static electricity in the bleeding air.
And I hate BP for their so-called environmental policy eg; green wash the public and make sure no one is looking when you dump your toxic crap.

[onearmedbandit]

Intersting reading for anyone curious about the dangers of using a cellphone will fulling your car/bike/etc.

http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp

[manuboy]

And I hate BP for their so-called environmental policy eg; green wash the public and make sure no one is looking when you dump your toxic crap.

Tell me more......

[bear]

Intersting reading for anyone curious about the dangers of using a cellphone will fulling your car/bike/etc.
http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp

So, I guess it's another one of those possible but not probable type situations, and so petrol companies have to do something in case the one in a billion occurance happens to them and they get dragged through the coals for it.

[inlinefour]

So, I guess it's another one of those possible but not probable type situations, and so petrol companies have to do something in case the one in a billion occurance happens to them and they get dragged through the coals for it.

Just in case the unlikely event occurs. :whocares:

[dangerous]

Who are you and whats your problem? I don't play and if I did it would not be with an idiot like you. Experience forms our knowledge base and anyone who has run a truck/boat etc that runs on deisel will know what I'm getting at. I attempted to advise the boy first, little youknowwhat knew better, so I told him to piss off and let me do it myself. If you cant see the logic in that, well thats your problem. Dont come from Wellington buy any chance? :killingme :whocares: :shake: :P :tugger:
LOL....... I am me and I have no problems..... well maybe I do but the likes of you dont come near to a problem :bleh:
An Idiot aye...... well if name calling is the best you can do then good on ya mate.... hey ya know what, I might add that to my sigy along with pompus git :cool:

You mantion "anyone who has run a truck/boat etc that runs on deisel" I have driven every thing from my 2.7turbo deisel to a GM 2 stroke V8 16,000cc twin turbo/supercharged Kenny deisel (Gemmy) and I wont get started on boats....... and I tell ya what, I dont have any problem filling them altho some smaller deisel car/utes will blo back but no different to a petrol.

[inlinefour]

LOL....... I am me and I have no problems..... well maybe I do but the likes of you dont come near to a problem :bleh:
An Idiot aye...... well if name calling is the best you can do then good on ya mate.... hey ya know what, I might add that to my sigy along with pompus git :cool:

You mantion "anyone who has run a truck/boat etc that runs on deisel" I have driven every thing from my 2.7turbo deisel to a GM 2 stroke V8 16,000cc twin turbo/supercharged Kenny deisel (Gemmy) and I wont get started on boats....... and I tell ya what, I dont have any problem filling them altho some smaller deisel car/utes will blo back but no different to a petrol.

Spent 9 years out at sea as a deckhand with a deisel main, along with long hall for a while. Got in trouble the first time I attempted to fill the tanks on the boat. Filled too quickly and almost missed on a full tank (would have if the skipper had not mentioned it!). Its too easy to do it and I cant see the point in having someone else fill my tank if there is a good chance of it. The bit that pissed me off that when I tried to explain it to the forecourt boy, he was rude and continued to fill my tank with froth anyway! :argh:

[Stinger]

Intersting reading for anyone curious about the dangers of using a cellphone will fulling your car/bike/etc.

http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp

Interesting read, I wondered whether it had really happened before.... I guess not.

[inlinefour]

Interesting read, I wondered whether it had really happened before.... I guess not.

That none of the "possible but possibly paranoia" has not happened in New Zealand. I'd suspect we'd know all about it if it had. :doctor:

[dveus]

Interesting read, I wondered whether it had really happened before.... I guess not.

There is quite an interesting program on Discovery, that is a couple of Scientists(nutters) who do experiments testing these myths. The cellphone blowing up a petrol station they found to be false. But they did manage to use static buildup to ignite petrol vapour.

[RiderInBlack]

There is quite an interesting program on Discovery, that is a couple of Scientists(nutters) who do experiments testing these myths. The cellphone blowing up a petrol station they found to be false. But they did manage to use static buildup to ignite petrol vapour.How many different brand/types of Cellphone did they use in their experiments?

[Sniper]

There is quite an interesting program on Discovery, that is a couple of Scientists(nutters) who do experiments testing these myths. The cellphone blowing up a petrol station they found to be false. But they did manage to use static buildup to ignite petrol vapour.

Yea, not a bad program, I saw that episode. If you get a chance to watch it you should, Im not a 100% sure but I think its called "Myths exposed". They do all sorts of stuff including tying rockets to cars :lol: :lol:

[XP@]

Not read all the posts in the thread, but... What happens if by some remote chance your foot slips on the yummy petrol / diesel / windscreen wash mix on the floor?

Even if there is no magic spark, then you are going to be left looking stupidly at your bike on the floor and petrol flowing out of the tank.

[Blakamin]

Not read all the posts in the thread, but... What happens if by some remote chance your foot slips on the yummy petrol / diesel / windscreen wash mix on the floor?

Even if there is no magic spark, then you are going to be left looking stupidly at your bike on the floor and petrol flowing out of the tank.
as you said, not read all...
you mean if ya stay on ya bike (with 2 feet on the ground) or as ya step off (with one foot on the ground and pulling a fancy pirouette?)

dunno 'bout you, but i look for pumps without that shit so i dont get diesel on my tyres.... no matter if i'm sitting-on/standing-next-to my bike!

[Lou Girardin]

Well, as a fully qualified curmudgeon who's been filling cars, bikes, trucks, boats, etc for thirty mumble, mumble , something years without incinerating himself, I don't need some spotty faced, testosterone overdosed yob telling me how to fill up with gas.
BP is off my Christmas list.

[inlinefour]

There will be a risk involved at the end of the day. I was at the NP mobil one evening and the staff were smoking in frount of the shop. I Asked them about it and their reply was "where else are we going to go?" I think its more a matter of making a mountian out of a mole hill, but hey some people are good at it... :sweatdrop

[ajturbo]

while i was at the bucket racing the other day, i just happen to be walking threw the pits when a dad help his son fill up the quad...while he was SMOKING, i kid you not!!!! :bash: :bash: :bash:

[bear]

while i was at the bucket racing the other day, i just happen to be walking threw the pits when a dad help his son fill up the quad...while he was SMOKING, i kid you not!!!! :bash: :bash: :bash:

Madness - surely.

[adamww]

I have always Filled up the local BP, through I have only been riding for the last six months.( 5000 kms)
I have always sat on the bike and never taken my helmet off, and they have never said a thing.
After reading this thread, Í'm not going to sit on the bike any more. :eek5:
But with the helmet thing, I can understand how it could be considered threating but I wear glasses and its a pain to take the glasses off put them down, remove helmet put down helmet and put glasses back on.
I always pull out my wallet before walking inside to show that I am not threating in any way and intend to pay.
I like BP, because they are more enviromentally freindly, what with there solar power stuff than most fuel compaines.

[Deano]

What next ? - no caps or hats, dark sunglasses ? They all disguise your looks.

Would an attendant ask a Muslim woman to remove her burma (or whatever its called)?

If they want my money they can provide an alternative method of paying, like the nightime transaction drawer or eft pos at the pump.

[James Deuce]

I like BP, because they are more enviromentally freindly, what with there solar power stuff than most fuel compaines.

Umm - Total Bollocks.

There is no such thing as an environmentally friendly energy corporation.

Next you'll be claiming electrically powered transportation is more environmentally clean than petrochemicals.

[pete376403]

Spent 9 years out at sea as a deckhand with a deisel main, along with long hall for a while. Got in trouble the first time I attempted to fill the tanks on the boat. Filled too quickly and almost missed on a full tank (would have if the skipper had not mentioned it!). Its too easy to do it and I cant see the point in having someone else fill my tank if there is a good chance of it. The bit that pissed me off that when I tried to explain it to the forecourt boy, he was rude and continued to fill my tank with froth anyway! :argh:

I thought modern diesel fuels contained an anti-foaming agent.
(FYI - diesel experience as a result of apprenticeship with GGH on Caterpillar earthmoving equip, also a year or so at International Harvester. Current work vehicle is diesel - Escort van and its the biggest POS I have ever driven.iesel )

[riffer]

Next you'll be claiming electrically powered transportation is more environmentally clean than petrochemicals.

Well it is, if you don't count how they get the electricity.

[dangerous]

I thought modern diesel fuels contained an anti-foaming agent.
(FYI - diesel experience as a result of apprenticeship with GGH on Caterpillar earthmoving equip, also a year or so at International Harvester. Current work vehicle is diesel - Escort van and its the biggest POS I have ever driven.iesel )
Well thats what I thought too... but couldent be buggered wanking on any more, but what the hell.... I fill any diesel up at full noise and the thing usually shuts of as the little bit of foam reaches the triger 1st.... and can usualy dribble 20-50c more in... not actually worth pissing around with.

[James Deuce]

Well it is, if you don't count how they get the electricity.

Do you need every point explicitly explained today? :)

Nice to see you slowly catching up.

[inlinefour]

I thought modern diesel fuels contained an anti-foaming agent.
(FYI - diesel experience as a result of apprenticeship with GGH on Caterpillar earthmoving equip, also a year or so at International Harvester. Current work vehicle is diesel - Escort van and its the biggest POS I have ever driven.iesel )

But if you use the truck pumps with the fast nozle or get your fuel from a truck it comes out VERY fast and any such agent is not of much use :doh:

[カワサキキド]

If they want my money they can provide an alternative method of paying, like the nightime transaction drawer or eft pos at the pump.

If only they had hot meat pie vending machines and credit card at pump then I would never have to get off!

I don't get off for cash machines either.

[Sniper]

while i was at the bucket racing the other day, i just happen to be walking threw the pits when a dad help his son fill up the quad...while he was SMOKING, i kid you not!!!! :bash: :bash: :bash:

Yep I had mates that filled up a stock car with Av gas while smoking, I took off rather quickly :ride: :shit:

[Hitcher]

If only they had hot meat pie vending machines and credit card at pump then I would never have to get off!

I don't get off for cash machines either.
Ah, the bladders of youth...

[inlinefour]

at Powderham BP. He agreed that it was pretty pathetic to expect a rider to get off the bike at all. He went on to state that the biggest danger is women as for whatever reason they do no earth out with static electricity and pose a risk :crazy: He stated that his biggest pisser is when parents let the kids (as young as 7 years old) fill the car. He reckons if they are old enough to drive then they are old enough to fill. He said that some parents get quite shirty with it (reckon they need a swift moving heavy blunt object to the head to remove the farking cobwebs!!!) :crazy: So for all you riders in the Naki and looking for fuel in the big NP, go to Powderham BP, they have both their shite together and a good healthy dose of common sense. :ride: :)