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sagirl
28th February 2008, 07:40
So. Are Scot Oilers really worth the money? the OH has decided we are to get some. Opinions please.
thanks.
The Pastor
28th February 2008, 08:59
get a pixie oiler, PM pixie, local made and better :)
slimjim
28th February 2008, 09:05
yup they are good, easy maintance too an chain life is helped however as does all maintance will asssit bike life, had a mate once drop his bike while corning real tight at low speed :wacko: an when we picked it up and wondered why :argh: noticed heavy oil slick on side wall of tire bugger the oiler had released too much and then mate said that he had adjusted screw and forgotten to check that it was'nt releasing too much :clap: yup he found out the hard way , thank-fully though at a very slow tight corner:clap: he swear's by it , me i like using the spray can stuff ,
ManDownUnder
28th February 2008, 09:09
I'm personally not convinced. I throw the RF up on a center stand and give the chain a dose of lube every 1500kms or so. That same pair of sprockets and chain are only half worn after 60,000kms...
Each to their own I guess but I have no need for one
Robert Taylor
28th February 2008, 09:34
get a pixie oiler, PM pixie, local made and better :)
Why are they better? Such a claim should be elaborated upon in detail.
Waxxa
28th February 2008, 09:43
I've had a Scottoiler for over 10 years and they are brilliant! Well worth the money in preserving chain life. I would recommend getting one.
Shaun
28th February 2008, 09:45
I used the scott oiler on my race bike for 3 years here in NZ, and I thought it was absolutely brilliant, when adjusted to supply the amount of oil on the chain that you want
NZsarge
28th February 2008, 09:51
So. Are Scot Oilers really worth the money? the OH has decided we are to get some. Opinions please.
thanks.
3 words........ Maxima chain wax :yes: :D
007XX
28th February 2008, 09:59
Hubby's been pretty pleased with the result since using his, and he's a pretty pedantic engineer, who likes things that work.
So I guess they're good.
HungusMaximist
28th February 2008, 10:25
There's a cheaper alternative called "Loobman", which I've got and a few others on KB have. I am yet to put it on my bike.
It's pretty primitive as it's manual so you give it a squeeze when you want it to come out.
It's around the $50.00 mark.
Look it on google see if this is you.
As for the Pixie Oiler, give Ixion the SV dude a PM, he can tell you more about it or just message Pixie himself. It's an automatic oiler like scott but it's eletronic so you select settings and modes.
BOGAR
28th February 2008, 13:26
I use one and love it, i still oil the chain if i give the bike a good wash. but the thing to remember is getting the right amount to drip out. other than that, it increases the chain life heaps for me. :niceone:
banditrider
28th February 2008, 19:41
I don't need one now but....
I was talking to a guy in the parts department of one of the local shops the other day and he reckoned that if correct chain tension was always maintained & decent lube was used then this was just as good as fitting an oiler.
Also for you keen DIYers, my old man made his own oiler once and rigged it release a drop every time his brake light activated. When he was getting up his FJ you used to be able to smell the oil (too much) but on straight roads he used to just tap his brake enough to trigger it every now and then. The chain used to look quite good...
Taz
28th February 2008, 19:47
So. Are Scot Oilers really worth the money? the OH has decided we are to get some. Opinions please.
thanks.
Yes yes and yes.
Patch
28th February 2008, 19:50
Why are they better? Such a claim should be elaborated upon in detail.
Pixie uses a little electrical (I think) motor to operate the unit rather than the pos vaccum one and a couple of other little mods he does (can't remember those ones) and besides its better to support the local guy isn't it? (Reasonable price, good service, local knowledge etc) and not some cheap overseas shit from a non engwish speaky county (not a poke anything in particular, just a generalisation before some cock takes a stab with a teaspoon) :shifty:
Automatic oilers are a good tool for the lazy bastages and/or the old amenesia foe gees
NighthawkNZ
28th February 2008, 19:52
So. Are Scot Oilers really worth the money? the OH has decided we are to get some. Opinions please.
thanks.
Tripled the life of my chain sprockets... they are great... just like all bike maintenance... just make sure there is oil in the oiler ;)
bimotabob
1st March 2008, 10:53
I'm personally not convinced. I throw the RF up on a center stand and give the chain a dose of lube every 1500kms or so. That same pair of sprockets and chain are only half worn after 60,000kms...
Each to their own I guess but I have no need for one
Holy wackamolies batman!
60,000 and half worn - heck That must be some kind of record!
Your having us on arent you??
Or have you never had the engine above 3 grand?
Regards
BB
boman
1st March 2008, 21:07
There's a cheaper alternative called "Loobman", which I've got and a few others on KB have. I am yet to put it on my bike.
It's pretty primitive as it's manual so you give it a squeeze when you want it to come out.
It's around the $50.00 mark.
Look it on google see if this is you.
I bought a Loobman. Found it was a waste of money. When it did work it would release all the oil on the floor and my rear tyre. No matter where I mounted it or how I adjusted it. Took it off and use spray lube now.
Jantar
1st March 2008, 21:38
Any oiler is a great addition if you do a lot of long distance riding with little opportunity for maintenence. But if most of your use is commuting on clean sealed roads then they aren't really required. Just a regular application of wax or chain oil each time you fill the tank is sufficient.
With the type of riding I tend to do, I find I'm getting around double the life from a chain, and I can complete a full Southern Cross withou having to adjust the chain once.
Gremlin
2nd March 2008, 06:20
...Automatic oilers are a good tool for the lazy bastages...
you called? oh :whistle:
Yep, I'm lazy, work plenty of hours a week, and good weather shouldn't be wasted on oiling chains. If I ride, I can oil it at the same time :wari:
If you maintain a chain well, you will probably get the same life as using an oiler and being lazy on oiling. If you use an oiler and also regularly clean chain etc, then you should get even better life.
That said, I did 12k out of 17k on a zx10's chain, it had oiler for last 7k, but first owner probably neglected the chain. 17k is about normal life, so the oiler probably helped.
Pixie
2nd March 2008, 13:45
As for the Pixie Oiler, give Ixion the SV dude a PM, he can tell you more about it or just message Pixie himself. It's an automatic oiler like scott but it's eletronic so you select settings and modes.
No,my oilers don't have on-the-fly adjustability.You're thinking of the Pro-oiler.
On my ones you set the flow rate to suit the lubricant and the conditions,just like the Scott,and leave it.Which is perfectly adequate for road use.The Pro-oiler comes into it's own on the dirt.
Mine are better than the Scott because they are better quality for slightly less money and have the pixie brush delivery system.
And with the Scott - where is the love?
Pixie
2nd March 2008, 14:07
Holy wackamolies batman!
60,000 and half worn - heck That must be some kind of record!
Your having us on arent you??
Or have you never had the engine above 3 grand?
Regards
BB
My Bandit 1200 has just clicked over to 54,000 km.
My original chain is 312 mm across 20 pins.
The chain was 310 mm across 20 pins when new.
The allowable wear limit stated in the manual across 20 pins is 319.4 mm.
2 mm of wear across 20 pins in 54,000 km or around 10% of allowable wear.
This means I'll have to start saving for that new chain I'll need at 540,000 km
oldrider
2nd March 2008, 14:47
No,my oilers don't have on-the-fly adjustability.You're thinking of the Pro-oiler.
On my ones you set the flow rate to suit the lubricant and the conditions,just like the Scott,and leave it.Which is perfectly adequate for road use.The Pro-oiler comes into it's own on the dirt.
Mine are better than the Scott because they are better quality for slightly less money and have the pixie brush delivery system.
And with the Scott - where is the love?
For a road bike in NZ......Pixie-Oiler, :yes:
Currently two Triumph Tiger 955i's in my garage.
One has a Scott oiler on it that doesn't work! (Owner unhappy with it)
The other has a Pro-Oiler, (Owner very happy with it) nuff said really. :ride: Cheers John.
Pixie
2nd March 2008, 15:06
For a road bike in NZ......Pixie-Oiler, :yes:
Currently two Triumph Tiger 955i's in my garage.
One has a Scott oiler on it that doesn't work! (Owner unhappy with it)
The other has a Pro-Oiler, (Owner very happy with it) nuff said really. :ride: Cheers John.
Hi John
I went over the Pakiri hill road last wednesday That dust sure soaks up the oil. I think you made the correct choice for an adventure bike
homer
2nd March 2008, 19:24
I used to have chain spray on and it was good
used to get a chain lube called PJ1 was excellent
used a wax spray till about 12 months ago now a scott oiler
I wouldnt use anything else now
just fill the resovour and go
its all adjustable just turn the dial
ManDownUnder
3rd March 2008, 08:14
Holy wackamolies batman!
60,000 and half worn - heck That must be some kind of record!
Your having us on arent you??
Or have you never had the engine above 3 grand?
Regards
BB
Nope dead serious and I suspect I'm simply lucky - buying a really good chain or somesuch.
I've never had one last this long before and yes I do push the old girl along from time to time (using tire wear as the other indicator of grunt applied to the road). I'm a moderate rider... pootling along generally with the occasional nudge up to er um *cough* fun *cough* speeds *cough choke*...
Shaun
3rd March 2008, 12:04
A Huge part of the advantage to a Scott Oiler, IS THE OIL ITSELF!
The oil has some rather special product in it, that keeps the chain so healthy
forkoil
3rd March 2008, 12:18
Hey sadgirl, I'd pix the pixie, apart from a more measured delivery system (electronic on the pixie (constant) vs vacuum on the Scott (variable)) the Pixie also has a stiff brush that both delivers the oil to the whole width of the chain and cleans it as a bonus. The Scott delivers oil in droplets to ONE SIDE OF THE CHAIN ONLY unless you buy the enhancer kit (more $), the one side MAY not be a problem if the oil flows thru the rollers, but instructions on manual oiling always say do both sides, AND the Pixie is slightly cheaper.....say no more...
homer
3rd March 2008, 19:09
Hey sadgirl, I'd pix the pixie, apart from a more measured delivery system (electronic on the pixie (constant) vs vacuum on the Scott (variable)) the Pixie also has a stiff brush that both delivers the oil to the whole width of the chain and cleans it as a bonus. The Scott delivers oil in droplets to ONE SIDE OF THE CHAIN ONLY unless you buy the enhancer kit (more $), the one side MAY not be a problem if the oil flows thru the rollers, but instructions on manual oiling always say do both sides, AND the Pixie is slightly cheaper.....say no more...
the oiler going on to one side of the sprocket.....not the chain,which means all the sprocket gets oil and is then pushed on to the chain as you ride the bike
Pixie
13th March 2008, 01:48
A Huge part of the advantage to a Scott Oiler, IS THE OIL ITSELF!
The oil has some rather special product in it, that keeps the chain so healthy
Not true.
I found summer weight Scott oil pretty useless,winter weight ok,but not any better than cheap 75% 20W40 & 25% kerosene blend.
Pixie
13th March 2008, 01:58
the oiler going on to one side of the sprocket.....not the chain,which means all the sprocket gets oil and is then pushed on to the chain as you ride the bike
You hope.
I trialed both methods and found delivering oil to the sprocket caused most of the oil to travel to the tip of the teeth and get flung away.Drip feed to one side of the chain was substantially more efficient and brush was best.This conclusion was based on the actual flow rate required to fully lube the chain.Remember,wasted oil merely coats the back end of your bike.
P.S. the brush doesn't actually clean the chain,a correct amount of lubrication will,naturally,remove dirt and crud
Shaun
13th March 2008, 05:29
Not true.
I found summer weight Scott oil pretty useless,winter weight ok,but not any better than cheap 75% 20W40 & 25% kerosene blend.
It is true sport! I have seen the test reports from Shell NZ that tried to duplicate it, but could not Due the special product content in it.
Sorry for telling it as it is again
NordieBoy
13th March 2008, 06:46
Sorry for telling it as it is again
You'll have to stop doing that :Pokey:
Love my Scotties. Wouldn't be without one on a chain drive bike.
3 here at the moment. 2 normal and 1 touring kit.
The DR had a touring kit on it but I removed that and just use the reservoir now.
It's good to come out of a river crossing and along a gravel road and see that the chain is nicely lubed at the next stop.
NordieBoy
13th March 2008, 06:47
I have seen the test reports from Shell NZ that tried to duplicate it, but could not Due the special product content in it.
Ground up leprechauns.
Shaun
13th March 2008, 08:43
Ground up leprechauns.
Sop that is where my dam body parts keep going
Robert Taylor
13th March 2008, 12:32
Sop that is where my dam body parts keep going
No, you are a leprechaun!
Shaun
13th March 2008, 12:45
No, you are a leprechaun!
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