Rev-It gear 100% waterproof - my arse!

[Matt]

Thought I'd treat myself with buying some new Rev-It winter gear to go with the new bike, but it seems the "100% waterproof" textile jacket is far from it :angry2: - in only a light shower this morning it leaked badly across the chest and arms - leaving me with nice wet patches on my work shirt :(

Anybody else had problems with Rev-it stuff?? First call this morning is to the dealer!

Matt

[James Deuce]

There's no such thing as waterproof bike gear with the exception of stuff specifically designed as a waterproof over suit. Spool do good over suits. RD2 do good cheap rainwear that can be worn over bike gear.

[Matt]

Just a bit waterproof would be good! Never had any issues with my old Teknic Sprint jacket/pants

Matt

[James Deuce]

How long is the Rev-It jacket? You've gone from an upright bike to a race crouch.This will make a mid-length or long jacket bunch. My Teknic gear worked well on my CB400, but sucked on the R6 I had at the same time, leaking in the same place you are describing.

[Jimmy B]

There's no such thing as waterproof bike gear with the exception of stuff specifically designed as a waterproof over suit. Spool do good over suits. RD2 do good cheap rainwear that can be worn over bike gear.

I'm hearing you Jim and feel that if a company puts out performance claims about any product then they had better be very sure that it can live up to its claims. A different product, this time dive watches, specifically Omega Seamaster are warranted 300M water "resistant" for this very reason and only if serviced annually.

My Spidi GT suit seems to live up to its claims but I am sure that it will fail eventually.

Take the stuff back Matt, minimum they should test it and repair or replace.

[MaxCannon]

I've found my Revit pants to be close to 100% waterproof.
One tiny leak in the most severe weather wasn't too bad.

Every other occasion they've kept me dry

[BOGAR]

I found my revit jacket only partially waterproof. i could put on over coat but don't wont the extra bulk or weight. i have yet to find a real waterproof item that also allows sweat to get out, even in the worst rain. so i get wet eventually one way or another.

[Pwalo]

Just a bit waterproof would be good! Never had any issues with my old Teknic Sprint jacket/pants

Matt

Yes, my Teknic (Sprint and Chicane) jackets both seem waterproof. I've worn them on the SV, and prior to that on the GS without any problems caused by the different riding positions.

It wasn't raining that hard this morning so that's a bit of a worry for winter. Think you'll need to spray some waterproofer on that, especially round the seams.

[Ocean1]

Yes, my Teknic (Sprint and Chicane) jackets both seem waterproof. I've worn them on the SV, and prior to that on the GS without any problems caused by the different riding positions.

It wasn't raining that hard this morning so that's a bit of a worry for winter. Think you'll need to spray some waterproofer on that, especially round the seams.

My Teknic jacket is waterproof up to about an hour in light to medium rain, half an hour if it's really pissing down. The fabric itself ain't the problem, at half an hour on the open road it's the domes on the arm straps, have plugged the wee bastards up with ski wax. Seems to work so far but I haven't been out in serious rain since.

At an hour or so of heavy rain the water eventually finds it's way through the velcro flap over the main zip, through the zip and around the inside flap. Not much I can do about that, don't really care either for the moment 'cause I don't tour with it.

Never had water get through the Teknic pants yet, but I've never done more than a couple of hours in the wet. I originally looked for bib overall type pants, because I'd had trouble with some getting pulled down under acceleration and the braces would help there. That, and I figured it'd make for an extra layer under the jacket at the front, couldn't find any though.

[sinned]

Anybody else had problems with Rev-it stuff?? First call this morning is to the dealer!

Matt

My Revit gear was waterproof until the membrane in the pants split at the seam. Now the pants suck water in like a spong. The issue with Revit gear is the waterproof membrane is very thin and light and therefore is easily damaged. Large protruding body parts place too much strain in the crutch of the pants :whistle: so unless you are female or an under-endowed male I suggest Revit is not the gear for you. Otherwise it is nice gear.

[DingoZ]

I have an RJAY's jacket and a pair of MACNA pants. Both serve well. Got caught in a constant heavy downpour (which included some hail) the other night on my way to work. (45 mins) in the rain. Got to work and the only thing that was wet, was the inside of my gloves, and the right pocket on the jacket was half full of water as I hadn't closed the top properly. None of the water from in the pocket though had gotten through to the inside. Work clothes still dry as......:)

[Ragingrob]

My Mobig jacket seems completely waterproof, have been riding for an hour in torrential rain and came out with soaking shoes and gloves, that was it. Top half was completely dry!

[Paul in NZ]

Its more accurately described as water resistent and it all wears out with time but new kit should manage a short commute... Ring the dealer and moan...

[Matt]

Spoke to the dealer, response was "did you have the waterproof lining in?", errrr, what does that look like then? Turns out it was still in the bag together with the thermal layer!!

Doh!

[Maha]

I've found my Revit pants to be close to 100% waterproof.


Agreed, no drama with mine either, R-Jays Jacket on the other hand is whole nother story, thank god for the Adult size Wets.

[sinned]

Spoke to the dealer, response was "did you have the waterproof lining in?", errrr, what does that look like then? Turns out it was still in the bag together with the thermal layer!!

Doh!

What!!! Without the lining it is close to being a mesh jacket.

[James Deuce]

Spoke to the dealer, response was "did you have the waterproof lining in?", errrr, what does that look like then? Turns out it was still in the bag together with the thermal layer!!

Doh!
LMAO!:clap:

[Usarka]

Bahahaha that's where you were supposed to say they exchanged it and it all works fine now. Move along nothing to see here......


:lol:

[discotex]

Spoke to the dealer, response was "did you have the waterproof lining in?", errrr, what does that look like then? Turns out it was still in the bag together with the thermal layer!!

Doh!

:first: bling coming for admitting that.

My Rev'IT pants are great. Never had a problem with them. Personally I think it's some of the best gear there is.

You'll love being able to zip out that lining as it's the waterproof lining that stops the air circulation.

[jrandom]

For what it's worth, I have a waterproof Rev'it jacket and pants set that go over leathers. They're absolutely impervious to any and all weather conditions; I've ridden in some truly horrendous wind and rain and everything stays bone dry.

The jacket is also quite warm - it adds a significant wind-blocking layer in winter. My Quasi jacket with liner zipped in plus the Rev'it waterproof over-jacket are all I find that I need for riding in weather down to freezing temperature or thereabouts.

The Rev'it waterproof over-pants are good, too - they have a nice open-ended design at the bottom that lets them go on quickly and easily over boots and then be velcro'd round for a tight fit.

In fact, all the Rev'it gear I've seen has been of uniformly high quality. Not cheap, but you get what you pay for.

[Brett]

I wear a thin high quality rubbery/plastic sort of rain coat (pants and jacket) over the top of my leathers. Have ridden in TORRENTIAL (I want to drown everything) sort of rain and only had *slightly* wet toes where the air intakes on my Sidi boots sit, and of course my hands as my gloves are sports gloves, not all season anti-wet ones. The rain coat rolls up small enough to fit into a back pack, and flexible enough to allow me to wear a back pack underneath so that everything gets home dry. I look like a cock, but at least I am dry!

[Brett]

http://sites.yellow.co.nz/site/farmsupplies/-%20Kaiwaka%20Clothing.html

The above is the supplier, and items SF110 & Sf112 look like the items that I use. Not sure of cost, they were free for me through work.

[OV Lander]

Happened to be looking around for soem gear today when I came across Rev'it at Wellington MC. Gave a load s**t about how waterproof Rev'it is, but then confessed he 'didn't have a clue about the fabric'.

From my perspective I have two issues with the Rev'it system (possibly applicable to others also, just have not looked yet):

1 - The very fact that the 'waterproofing' comes from a seperate and internal liner tells you immediately that the external layer is not waterproof. Therefore, why would you want to ride in a jacket that leaks from the first layer and traps water between 2 internal layers?

2 - The outer jacket had holes all over it. For example, "gimmicks" such a s hole for your iPod leads, small vents all over it where the rubber seals do not meet and allow water through etc...

All up, this jacket seemed:
- poorly designed
- over engineered
- over priced (well, it was Wellington MC's!!)

[discotex]

Happened to be looking around for soem gear today when I came across Rev'it at Wellington MC. Gave a load s**t about how waterproof Rev'it is, but then confessed he 'didn't have a clue about the fabric'.

From my perspective I have two issues with the Rev'it system (possibly applicable to others also, just have not looked yet):

1 - The very fact that the 'waterproofing' comes from a seperate and internal liner tells you immediately that the external layer is not waterproof. Therefore, why would you want to ride in a jacket that leaks from the first layer and traps water between 2 internal layers?

Ahh... Codura isn't waterproof.. All waterproof jackets use a lining.

The difference is most you can't remove the lining. Being able to remove it means you get mega airflow. It's a big bonus for the Rev'IT jackets that use that system. Not all of them zip out.



2 - The outer jacket had holes all over it. For example, "gimmicks" such a s hole for your iPod leads, small vents all over it where the rubber seals do not meet and allow water through etc...

All up, this jacket seemed:
- poorly designed
- over engineered
- over priced (well, it was Wellington MC's!!)

How odd. My opinion on Rev'IT gear is the total opposite. It's functional, practical and safe. Not sure which jacket you were looking at but they have ones designed for scooters vs commuting vs touring vs racing. All have radically different features.

Sounds like you were looking at the ignition which is designed as an airmesh jacket that can be converted to waterproof. Not a waterproof jacket for touring in (where you need waterproof pockets etc).

[OV Lander]

From memory it was the Expedition jacket....

[Subike]

http://sites.yellow.co.nz/site/farmsupplies/-%20Kaiwaka%20Clothing.html

The above is the supplier, and items SF110 & Sf112 look like the items that I use. Not sure of cost, they were free for me through work.

I have a similar out fit in bright orange
dryer than dry as a bone stckmans oilskin coats
Bright orange so the retards in the cars can see me through the fogged up windows!
May look like an orange lollipop on the road, but Im seen!And jacket goes over all my gear no problems

Gloves have their own water proof liners built in to a little zip pocket on the cuff. just pull it out, slip it over the fingers and carry on, dry hands all the way

[homer]

Dri rider gear is all built in
put it on and go

[Matt]

From memory it was the Expedition jacket....

Yeah that's the jacket I have - will reserve further judgement until I've put it through it's paces during winter (agree it seems odd about having a waterproof layer under the jacket). On the positive side, the fit and overall quality is awesome!

[vifferman]

Spoke to the dealer, response was "did you have the waterproof lining in?", errrr, what does that look like then? Turns out it was still in the bag together with the thermal layer!!

Doh!
You're a cock!
But a brave man for admitting your faux pas. :niceone:

I wear a thin high quality rubbery/plastic sort of rain coat (pants and jacket) over the top of my leathers.
Yeah.
That's basically the best way to go: keep the water on the outside. :yes:
I've got some Motoline overpants that are excellent for that. The only problem is that some/most/all waterproof overgear is slippery and doesn't breathe. Plus it often flaps around in the breeze.
I think I made a tactical error buying a high-tech "four seasons" jacket - it would've been better to have bought an ornery jacket and a Motoline over-jacket (if you can still buy them). But I liked the idea of not having to stop to put stuff on when the weather changes.
Like it ever does that in D'Auckland... :rolleyes:

[*caution*]

Thought I'd treat myself with buying some new Rev-It winter gear to go with the new bike, but it seems the "100% waterproof" textile jacket is far from it :angry2: - in only a light shower this morning it leaked badly across the chest and arms - leaving me with nice wet patches on my work shirt :(

Anybody else had problems with Rev-it stuff?? First call this morning is to the dealer!

Matt

I've got Rev'it jacket with "waterproof membrane" this really is 100% waterproof its awesome, and Rev'it pants, which are just "waterproof" though they let in a little bit of water in really bad weather.

[icekiwi]

Revit's good shit but not cheap...like mentioned earlier you get what you pay for...Brilliant right through winter and without the insulation and w/proof liner are cool as in summer with all the vents..
Doesn't take too well to skidding on the tarmac though as i found out...
Cant beat good leathers if you want protection though...

[westie]

Rev it gear is talked up a bit too much. I bought a set of gloves for 240! Holy fuck!(rooting in a nunery)
But they crashed well so its all good:)

[discotex]

Rev it gear is talked up a bit too much. I bought a set of gloves for 240! Holy fuck!(rooting in a nunery)
But they crashed well so its all good:)

Compared to Sidi, Spidi, Alpinestars, etc I don't think it is talked up enough. It's easily as good if not better gear than all the other major brands.

Crashed in my Rev'IT gloves. Knuckles ground off and I didn't even know my hands had hit the ground. I'll probably buy another set.

[cole]

Yeah I have both rev-it jacket and pants, both work very well, have to be in a big down pour or in the light rain for a long time to start getting wet :D

as said above make sure you test the pants before like sit on your bike, as some like to grab your manhood and slam it back up to the primary school days :S

[Matt]

Oh well, after this morning's performance (light rain all the way in) it looks like I need to go back to the shop - still leaked big time even though I had the "waterproof" layer in!

Matt

[vifferman]

Rev it gear is talked up a bit too much. I bought a set of gloves for 240!
That's cheaper than the Spidi gloves I bought.
Generally, you get what you pay for. The two pairs of cheap gloves I've bought both fell apart, and one was very uncomfortable. I was actually glad when they died, so I could replace them. OTOH, I'm always sad when good gear wears out.

[James Deuce]

Oh well, after this morning's performance (light rain all the way in) it looks like I need to go back to the shop - still leaked big time even though I had the "waterproof" layer in!

Matt

Buy a $15 raincoat. Wear it under your "waterproof" Cordura. Problem solved.

[scumdog]

Buy a $15 raincoat. Wear it under your "waterproof" Cordura. Problem solved.

Warehouse parka and leggings, problem solved

(But don't get the plastic/vynil ones)

[Matt]

Great - the dealer has to send it back to the suppliers, which mean I'm without a waterproof jacket for a week :( - shame I can't just get my money back (even though I only bought it last month) and buy something that works!!!

[James Deuce]

Great - the dealer has to send it back to the suppliers, which mean I'm without a waterproof jacket for a week :( - shame I can't just get my money back (even though I only bought it last month) and buy something that works!!!You can. You control what happens, not the dealer. Consumer Guarantees Act states if it isn't fit for purpose you can request a full refund.

[Matt]

You can. You control what happens, not the dealer. Consumer Guarantees Act states if it isn't fit for purpose you can request a full refund.

Guess it depends upon whether it's classed as a "major" problem or not??

"Point of Law
The Consumer Guarantees Act says any goods you buy must be of acceptable quality. If a major fault develops then you have the right to reject the goods and be given a replacement or get your money back. The choice is yours.

You can also reject goods if the problem is minor but the retailer must have been given the chance to put things right and has refused or is unable to do so."

Matt

[James Deuce]

It leaks. It is supposed to be waterproof. They aren't going to fix that by sending it away. You are within your rights to request a refund. I'm fairly certain the intent of the CGA isn't to leave you without a jacket.

[Pussy]

Haven't read all of this thread.... but, FWIW, the missus has an Alpinestars sigma jacket, and it IS waterproof. They retail for $600.00

[westie]

That's cheaper than the Spidi gloves I bought.
Generally, you get what you pay for. The two pairs of cheap gloves I've bought both fell apart, and one was very uncomfortable. I was actually glad when they died, so I could replace them. OTOH, I'm always sad when good gear wears out.

Mmmm spidi.

Well after two crashes.... ah three actually! The revit gloves have held together well. There are minimal wear on the palms.(cos I take them off at night) But the plastic knuckle guards saved my hands big time yesterday.

Yep I'm reasonably impressed. Might not be water proof but I dont have stumps for hands either(luckily, cos my sex life would never be the same

[OV Lander]

It leaks. It is supposed to be waterproof. They aren't going to fix that by sending it away. You are within your rights to request a refund. I'm fairly certain the intent of the CGA isn't to leave you without a jacket.

Quite agree, but we're talking about Wellington Motorcycles here (I guess?) - and generally they just don't seem to give a XXXX for the customer. I have developed an allergy to giving them money!

[howdamnhard]

My Dri rider jacket used to be waterproof but after a year it leaks like a sieve in even light rain(that goes for my boots too).I've washed it with nickwash and used nickwax water repellant on it to no avail.Even tried spraying it with silicone,only slowed its absorbtion rate marginally.:crybaby:


Dri rider gear is all built in
put it on and go

[Finn]

I really can't be bothered reading pages of puke but if my father taught me one thing in life, it's that you'll never regret buying quality. With this knowledge in hand, I set forth and paid close to $1500 on Spidi waterproof gear. I wore this once on a SI ride and it pissed down for an 1 1/2 hours and there was a small wet patch near my belly button where the jacket met the pants. It had a zipper but I didn't zip it. 10 other riders had to stop - some bought new gear even.

When buying shit, stop thinking like a kiwi. The Warehouse mentality will bite you on the arse.

Signed
Bone Dry

[Biggles08]

Well I had a set of Rev it winter 'waterproof' gloves that are NOT waterproof. I went to the brass monkey from Aklnd last year and was pissed off when the first rain shower we hit i felt my fingers getting wet within 15 minutes. On my return to Aklnd I returned them to motomail and they replaced them with the newer model of the same gloves...these ones leak as well so my conclusion is that Rev it gloves are NOT waterproof.

On the other hand (hehehehe) the Rev it gear is fantastic in a crash (including the gloves albeit the summer ones) and I have the RS1 Gt full race leathers that I'm extremely happy with...good value for money too IMHO...just need to find some winter gloves elsewhere.

[Pussy]

I really can't be bothered reading pages of puke but if my father taught me one thing in life, it's that you'll never regret buying quality. With this knowledge in hand, I set forth and paid close to $1500 on Spidi waterproof gear. I wore this once on a SI ride and it pissed down for an 1 1/2 hours and there was a small wet patch near my belly button where the jacket met the pants. It had a zipper but I didn't zip it. 10 other riders had to stop - some bought new gear even.

When buying shit, stop thinking like a kiwi. The Warehouse mentality will bite you on the arse.

Signed
Bone Dry

I've got a Spidi R type series jacket.... and it fuggin leaks at the front!
Alpinestars for me, next!

[OV Lander]

Great - the dealer has to send it back to the suppliers, which mean I'm without a waterproof jacket for a week :( - shame I can't just get my money back (even though I only bought it last month) and buy something that works!!!

Have you heard back yet?
A phone call perhaps?
Any indication at all?
Any great after sales service to report?

[ipod1098]

Well I had a set of Rev it winter 'waterproof' gloves that are NOT waterproof. I went to the brass monkey from Aklnd last year and was pissed off when the first rain shower we hit i felt my fingers getting wet within 15 minutes. On my return to Aklnd I returned them to motomail and they replaced them with the newer model of the same gloves...these ones leak as well so my conclusion is that Rev it gloves are NOT waterproof.

On the other hand (hehehehe) the Rev it gear is fantastic in a crash (including the gloves albeit the summer ones) and I have the RS1 Gt full race leathers that I'm extremely happy with...good value for money too IMHO...just need to find some winter gloves elsewhere.

any luck on the winter gloves m8?? if so what?where?how much?

[Matt]

Have you heard back yet?
A phone call perhaps?
Any indication at all?
Any great after sales service to report?
They refused point blank to refund the jacket; although they did replace the inner "waterproof" membrane whilst I was in the shop - haven't had a decent chance to try it in the rain yet, looks like I may get the opportunity this week tho!

[Askelon]

I had a pair of rev-it pants that were supposed to be waterproof. And of course they were as long as you stayed inside while it was raining.. Waste of time. I know their in some box here somewhere and will most likely never see the light of day again. In saying that I replaced them with a pair of Teknics ones and found they wore out within a few months - the waterproof lining shit itself very quickly. Now I just get wet :p

[chasio]

Saw the forecast and bought a Rev'it U-Turn jacket this weekend at the Motomail outlet for $200. The waterproof liner in the U-Turn is stitched in permanently.

Bloody glad I did buy it as it had a workout on the commute in driving rain on the bridge and Southern Motorway today.

Only an hour of testing but no leaks, except a wee bit down my neck, which was bearable in the circumstances. That'll do for me.

[mowgli]

Yeah that's the jacket I have - will reserve further judgement until I've put it through it's paces during winter (agree it seems odd about having a waterproof layer under the jacket). On the positive side, the fit and overall quality is awesome!
I also have the Rev It Expedition jacket with pants. The pants have always been excellent. The first time I put the inner linings in the jacket I attached them to the wrong points and created a path for the water to simply run straight up my arms after my gloves were wet. After some head scratching I figured out the issue and since then I've been very happy with it. When heading out in the rain I make a point of carefully zipping and folding each layer in, dome up the sleeves and snug up the collar.


Quite agree, but we're talking about Wellington Motorcycles here (I guess?) - and generally they just don't seem to give a XXXX for the customer. I have developed an allergy to giving them money!
I bought my gear from WMC and they were very good. Once I got home I discovered minor faults with both the pants and the jacket possibly because they'd been tried on a few times. Apart from the jacket which had to be shipped in overnight they replaced both on the spot. They were also very careful to state up front that even though some gear claims to be waterproof, there is no such thing as a waterproof guarantee YMMV.

[horch]

not sure anyone reads down this far on such a topic - but my 2c worth

I bought Rev-it pants - the very next day it hosed down on a trip from Wgtn to Palmy. I didn't even make it to the motorway before getting drenched.

The pants did the job - not even the slightest leak. So .. Id recommend.

Just remember to zip up the pockets on your jacket :whistle:

[Matt]

Ah well, got a full refund for the jacket today :niceone: (after being drenched again yesterday) - may give a one-piece oversuit a try next, although will steer clear of Rev-it stuff!

[Pussy]

Give the Alpinestars Sigma sports-cut jacket a go... they are a nice fit and are definitely waterproof. At $600.00 retail, they are quite a good buy, too.
My next jacket will be one of them

[RDJ]

Any addresses? Looking for a pair of 42" waist touring pants to go with my jacket. Thanks!

[Griffin]

Hi Matt, not sure if Ive just missed the relevant post or if you havent stated but which Rev It jacket was it? I am about to upgrade all my gear and was looking at one of the top of the line Rev It jackets ($599.00) and pants to match which the dealer has stated will keep me "dry as toast" and is "the best you can get". Not sure I want to waste my money if its the same one you tried :Oops:

[ritchtheitch]

Hmm, I had purchased a good dririder jacket and was feeling quietly smug as I was dry as even in the dense auckland rain (at least at Auckland motorway speeds :zzzz: ... until I saw the post that said their waterproofing didn't last a year...!! :argh: I had to buy (non-dri-rider pants, can't even see the label telling me whose they are) pants with a reissa membrane, (short leg big waist issue.. :whistle: ) and happy with those, although Mike at Mt Eden MC had given me advice to ensure I didn't stress the crotch seam when i hopped on the bike, saying that was the most common reason pants leaked..
Also scored some Ixon gloves from Mike $120 after discount, dry and warm - just wish I had those on my GPz550 in Palmerston North a few years back.. (I used to reach higher speeds) but all good so far.

[Jekkyl]

Revit Ignition Jacket and Revit Challenge Pants, rode in that downpour in Auckland yesterday, both waterproof linings in. Got totally drenched top to bottom.

I have already had the liner replaced in the pants and they are now actually worse than before, the jacket leaks all around the bottom, zips and the arms.

On the plus side, my hands were bone dry with the Revit h20 gloves.

Will be giving the retailer a call today again, most annoying thing is they always want to take the gear away for a 2+ days, so wtf are you suppose to wear in the meantime....guess everyone owns 2 lots of gear except me!

[Matt]

Hi Matt, not sure if Ive just missed the relevant post or if you havent stated but which Rev It jacket was it? I am about to upgrade all my gear and was looking at one of the top of the line Rev It jackets ($599.00) and pants to match which the dealer has stated will keep me "dry as toast" and is "the best you can get". Not sure I want to waste my money if its the same one you tried :Oops:

It was the "Expedition" jacket - think it was more like $700 though?! still got the Revit "Factor" pants and they seem to be ok, although I stick on a one-piece oversuit if it's really wet now.

Just make sure they are cool about refunds if they don't work as they should - it was much more hassle than it should have been

[ital916]

My rev-it jacket is fantastic, it's warm and it keeps me 90% dry. Only downfall is that the pockets could be a bit bigger. Motorcycling is an outdoor pursuit, if i ride in rain, I don't expect to be 100% dry. 75% is good enough for me haha.

[ital916]

Revit Ignition Jacket and Revit Challenge Pants, rode in that downpour in Auckland yesterday, both waterproof linings in. Got totally drenched top to bottom.

I have already had the liner replaced in the pants and they are now actually worse than before, the jacket leaks all around the bottom, zips and the arms.

On the plus side, my hands were bone dry with the Revit h20 gloves.

Will be giving the retailer a call today again, most annoying thing is they always want to take the gear away for a 2+ days, so wtf are you suppose to wear in the meantime....guess everyone owns 2 lots of gear except me!

My friends wear the ignition, it is a fantastic jacket, they come out 90% dry. If it is a downpour, you will get wet. Like I said, motorcycling = outdoor pursuit. If it's pissing down, put on an oversuit.

[WildDuck]

I got a pair of Revit h20 gloves. During a rain, my hands stayed dry apart from some moisture, could have been extra sweat from riding in the wet.

My complaint is the suede material on the index finger is fraying to the point it exposed the waterproof layer underneath.
Took them back to Motormail, and got replacement pair, all good. Now 2nd pair are starting to fray as well after 3 months. I've narrowed it down to it catching on the velcro straps as you put them on and off. Design flaw.

When this pair wears thru i'm gonna get a different pair without that suede material. Great gloves otherwise.

[Griffin]

Not long after my last post in this thread and some online review investigating I went to Motomart in Lower Hutt and have purchased the Alpinestars Gortex Jacket and Pants. These are guaranteed 100% waterproof and so far so good. Everytime I have gone to go for a ride when its raining (to and from work) the rain has stopped and the ride home has been dry. I believe these work by omitting some anti rain high frequency gamma waves and therefore keep you 100% non wet.

Although they havent yet got rained on - they definitely keep you warm - I just wear a short sleeved shirt under my jacket and Im toasty.

No more :cold: for me :woohoo:

[Muppet]

Just a bit waterproof would be good! Never had any issues with my old Teknic Sprint jacket/pants

Matt

I agree and Teknic Sprint are the best fabric gear I've ever worn. My 8 year old jacket is only just starting to leak, so I bought the new stuff, have worn it in the rain and no probs. I also have a BMW rain suit which is lined and has a rubber seat to stop you from sliding around on the seat in the wet.

[cs363]

Not long after my last post in this thread and some online review investigating I went to Motomart in Lower Hutt and have purchased the Alpinestars Gortex Jacket and Pants. These are guaranteed 100% waterproof and so far so good. Everytime I have gone to go for a ride when its raining (to and from work) the rain has stopped and the ride home has been dry. I believe these work by omitting some anti rain high frequency gamma waves and therefore keep you 100% non wet.

Although they havent yet got rained on - they definitely keep you warm - I just wear a short sleeved shirt under my jacket and Im toasty.

No more :cold: for me :woohoo:

Awesome gear - best thing about that combo is the fact that they have a Gore-Tex membrane, independent of any warranty offered by the manufacturer Gore-Tex themselves guarantee the membrane for 5 years so you can't go too wrong!
Just a word of advice though, jackets like this are high tech and need to be cared for properly, as in cleaned properly (with a proper Gore-Tex cleaner like Sport Wash from the Sno Seal people or at worst plain soap (ie: Lux flakes) other detergents will actually block the pores in the membrane and drastically reduce its performance, while dirt build up can damage the membrane through abrasion) and dried properly after a soaking. Jackets like that usually have extra long arm zips etc to allow good air flow through the jacket to dry it out properly.
This applies to any membrane type product - most manufacturers will have their own in-house version of a Gore Tex like product and they all basically work the same, though Gore Tex is universally acknowledged as the best you can get.
I've got the Alpinestars Space Dry-Star combo which is also bloody good (Dry Star is their own brand membrane).
When it comes to waterproof gear (and yes - you CAN buy 100% waterproof gear, you just have to pay for it!) you do get what you pay for in my experience.
And any gear advertised as 100% waterproof bloody well better be (or get replaced if it isn't) otherwise you've got a very good case under the Consumer Guarantees Act.
The Gore site http://www.gore-tex.com/remote/Satellite/content/fabric-technologies is well worth a browse to understand exactly how these products work. For instance a membrane type jacket could appear to be leaking if it has been cleaned improperly as I outlined above, because the pores of the membrane are blocked condensation will form on the inside of the jacket (from your sweat) and give the appearance of a leak.
You can also add to the waterproofness(?) of cordura type jackets by using a good quality (Sno Seal/Nikwax etc) waterproofing spray on the outer layer.

[Winston001]

Here's another thread on the topic.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=70654&highlight=wet+weather+gear

In the deep south, we have proper rain - not this namby-pamby scots mist you lot moan about. :Punk: Lots of it, mansized raindrops that require respect. And cold.

So........I lashed out the other day (damn the expense) and for $12.99 picked up an xxx PVC coat and trou at Mitre 10. Yes I know I'm an extravagant fool but comfort has its price. :done:

It will fit somewhere - possibly in the side-panels on the Duke, or bungeded somewhere and if it gets ripped/damaged in time, I can stand the loss.


I made this decision after reading various threads here and thinking of what I've seen people wear to rallies. Keeping dry is the point and large bulky jackets are cumbersome. Just my 2cents.

[Griffin]

Here's another thread on the topic.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=70654&highlight=wet+weather+gear

In the deep south, we have proper rain - not this namby-pamby scots mist you lot moan about. :Punk: Lots of it, mansized raindrops that require respect. And cold.

So........I lashed out the other day (damn the expense) and for $12.99 picked up an xxx PVC coat and trou at Mitre 10. Yes I know I'm an extravagant fool but comfort has its price. :done:

It will fit somewhere - possibly in the side-panels on the Duke, or bungeded somewhere and if it gets ripped/damaged in time, I can stand the loss.


I made this decision after reading various threads here and thinking of what I've seen people wear to rallies. Keeping dry is the point and large bulky jackets are cumbersome. Just my 2cents.


After reading yer post I had te go back te tha top and re read it inna thick, deep scottish accent wit tha wail a bagpipes straining in tha background... It was then it made Much more sense te me :laugh:

[cs363]

Getting slightly off topic, but is there any truth to the rumour that copper wire was invented by two scotsmen fighting over a penny? :innocent::D

[Winston001]

Ye pinny wee bastids, aye'll be gittin McJim oot an we'll git upsaid yer skinny numpty heids, yer skelpit erses :headbang:

[Mystic13]

I have rev'it and ride all weather. The thing leaks like a sieve. Been back and the guys had kindly given me cans of spray on rev'it brand waterproofing stuff. Sprayed the gear and it lasted I guess all of one decent rain. Finally bought the rev'it plastic jacket and leggings to go over the rev'it waterproof gear to make them waterproof. They're also useuful to throw over my leathers etc in summer and small enough to take with me on a longer ride.

I ride with guys who have had jackets for 12 years, ride most days, the jackets are faded and they're still water proof.

Rev'it didn't stay waterproof for long and Frank Thomas leaked something terrible on day 1. I'd really love to have some waterproof gear so if you have the stuff post up. Anything in my rev'it pockets is wet.

[Griffin]

Hi Mystic - like I said above - Alpinestars goretex is the way to go... I have now been rained upon... very hard... and by the time I got to work everthing was dripping. Took my gears off and whola (pronounced wo-la:msn-wink:) I was as dry as a piece of toast in an arabians back pocket.

It costs a pretty penny - $899 for the jacket and $499 for the pants but if you want to be dry... cant look past this gear.

Actually - Alpinestars have some cheaper options (see Alpinestars Space) as well which are also rated very well in the 'keep me dry' category

[Sparky Bills]

Alpinestars is used and recommended by many riders.
Including myself. My commute is 70K's each way, rain or shine. Ive had my jacket for over a year and it is yet to leak ONCE!! :headbang:
Too bad my 6 year old boots (which have been crahsed in a couple times) arnt as waterproof...:blank:

[Mystic13]

Alpinestars goretex is the way to go... I have now been rained upon... very hard... and by the time I got to work everthing was dripping. Took my gears off and whola (pronounced wo-la:msn-wink:) I was as dry as a piece of toast in an arabians back pocket.

Thanks for that. I have Alpinestar boots and they don't leak either. I'll have to go have a look.

Having said that even with waterproof you still get the outside soaked so maybe staying with the plastic on the outside is the best option.

... and whola is spelt "voila". It's French and does have a slight "v" sound at the beginning. I'd never heard the phrase dry as a piece of toast in an arabians back pocket before. It's interesting to imagine.

There are a few phrases that you don't often hear. One I like is "stuck like wet shit to a blanket".

Who sells Alpinestar gear in Auckland.

[Pussy]

As mentioned in an earlier post, Alpinestars drystar gear is 100% waterproof.
The Sigma drystar jacket retails for $600.00.
Another saying for you: Drier than Ghandi's sandals

[Griffin]

Funny that - I would have imagined Ghandis sandals to be ringing wet with sweat...

[Sanx]

My Rev'It gear (Airmesh stuff, with the waterproof membrane) always kept me bone dry. Though it's hard to remember as it's been so long since I've been on a bike :crybaby:

[FastBikeGear]

I went for my first ride today in my Strada kit that I bought from Cyclespot honda in Barrys Point Rd.

I tried the Revit at another outlet and it looked really good but didn't fit me well.

Great service, great price and after over an hour in todays rain (admittedly no motorway riding) the only thing that wasn't waterproof was my old gloves.

So far I am very impressed with the Strada gear it appears to be excellent value for money.

If it stays this water proof I will be very happy

[HamishC]

My 2c - I recently bought a Rev-It jacket, basically the cheapest available, and ended up wearing it in the middle of that 'storm of the decade' 2 weeks ago while stuck in rush hour traffic for 30 minutes.

Aside from a bit of water the flowed down the arms from my hands, and a bit down the neck, I was dry when I got home.

No complaints :cool:

[riffer]

I have Rev-It H20 Ultra gloves and Rev-It Factor pants.

It's been bucketing down in Welly lately and they've handled the 40km each way commute with aplomb.

However, I also have a cheapish (Mototech, I think) Cordura jacket and it doesn't last five minutes in the rain before it's seeping through.

Plus the Rev-It gear fits damn well and its warm and comfy. The gloves feel good and will protect my hands well if I need them to.

I guess you get what you pay for indeed. I'd buy Rev-It again.

[aklbob]

I've got Rev'it jacket with "waterproof membrane" this really is 100% waterproof its awesome, and Rev'it pants, which are just "waterproof" though they let in a little bit of water in really bad weather.

I got a Rev'it Ride 3/4 jacket, totally waterproof in the worst of this winters torrential rain.. and warm even with just a work shirt on underneath.. completely happy with mine..

[FastBikeGear]

I went for my first ride today in my Strada kit that I bought from Cyclespot honda in Barrys Point Rd.

So far I am very impressed with the Strada gear it appears to be excellent value for money.

If it stays this water proof I will be very happy

Just thought I would update this. The Strada Giro two piece textile gear is extremely waterproof. I have ridden it in storm conditions with teh inner liner zipped in on a couple of occassions over the last 9 months with no water leaking in.

Even without the inner linner zipped in it seems fairly water proof although I have only tried it in light rain without the inner liner.

Would I buy the strada giro gear again? No, the problem is that even with the ventilation zips in the jacket open and without the inner liner it does not breath well.

Worse there are no ventilation zips in the pants at all.

In summer this is very sweaty textile kit to wear

As a winter suit it works great (I do get a little cold around the kidneys on cold days on the open road) but for the summer this suit is just too hot. Also I do not like the dome and button cuff closure system around the wrists. It's just one more hassle to clip these up everytime you put on the suit.

It also uses dome and button tightening straps around the elbows. I tend to ride with these done up on the tighter of the two button options in the hope that it would hold the elbow armour better in place, but I think that in an accident these would probably pop undone on first impact. I prefer the buckle and cinch strap option offered on other brands.

[Simon]

The <i>only</i> fabric that will keep you compeletey dry <i>and</i> sweat free is gore-tex. Not only is the fabric rated <i>after</i> about 30,000 wash cycles... The jacket itself is also tested by gore themselves to insure the product is satisfactory.

What you get is a product that will live up to the hype, and last the distance. Trouble is, you pay for all the quality control and fabric... When you consider a performance technical alpine/mountaineering jacket is minimum $750-$1000 - Can you imagine the cost of adding all the motorcycle specific features on top of this - Easily makes it a $1500 jacket.

So always take the term "waterproof" with a grain of salt. I wouldn't expect a $200-$300 parka to keep me dry in monsoon and sweat free in the sahara. Likewise i wouldn't expect a $300-$600 motorcycle jacket to fulfill the same criteria.

Waterproofing will always be a compromise against, breathability and cost... Some jackets will be waterproof for 15mins after leaving the store - others like my 15year old gore-tex hack jacket will still be waterproof and useful after years of abuse

:)

[200BUSA]

The material cordura is waterproof, water gets in if seams arent seam sealed.
1000denier cordura - just as good as goretex. Ive been using my jacket and pants for just on 18 months and no leaking - 600D cordura. Good Lincra brand.

[vindy500]

my $250 shift is still waterproof after using it daily for coming on 2 years

[merlin]

I own the revit Ignition Jacket, the revit Factor pants and have a couple of revit gloves (Zero H2O and R59's)

I have had no problems in all kinds of weather. Have been cool in the hot and dry/warm in the cold. I have only had use for a turtle neck scarf in the more extreme days.

Overall I really Like the design and build quality of revit gear.

100% happy

[Digitdion]

I have the revit off track jacket and dakar pants. For the price I feel they are the best deal on the market in NZ.An excellent compromise between price and function, and they look good, and are good quality.

ME, I have never had any problems with rain getting in.That includes lots of rides up the west coast in the pissing rain. i love the fact when it heats up I can remove the waterproof membraine and the jacket is then a total summer jacket. great for rides in Central otago in the summer heat!

I did spent up large though when it comes to my feet and hands and went for gore-tex. I love my riding outfit. And a plus thumbs up for revit gear!

[BigOne]

I posted this on another thread-
the farmer gear is the way to go. it's strong and cheap.

There is a rain-wear company called ORINGI that makes farmer wear. Look up their web site. The fabric is rubberised polymer, 100% waterproof and 100% seam sealed. They make a garment called a milkers shirt that has no zips, no pockets, and wet-suit style cuffs. Put that on over riding trousers of the same type, and you wwill never get wet.
Whats more, it all rolls up small enough to get it under a sport bike seat, and it drys in 10 minutes.
I can get this gear on over my leathers in 1 min, and off again when it drys up. Its also very useful on dry days for a cold start early on winter mornings, when its a bit cold for just leathers.

The milkers shirt and pants cost about $230, and will do for several years.

[awa355]

I posted this on another thread-
the farmer gear is the way to go. it's strong and cheap.

There is a rain-wear company called ORINGI that makes farmer wear. Look up their web site. The fabric is rubberised polymer, 100% waterproof and 100% seam sealed. They make a garment called a milkers shirt that has no zips, no pockets, and wet-suit style cuffs. Put that on over riding trousers of the same type, and you wwill never get wet.
Whats more, it all rolls up small enough to get it under a sport bike seat, and it drys in 10 minutes.
I can get this gear on over my leathers in 1 min, and off again when it drys up. Its also very useful on dry days for a cold start early on winter mornings, when its a bit cold for just leathers.

The milkers shirt and pants cost about $230, and will do for several years.

I rode home yesterday from Taupo in steady drizzle. By the time I got to Karapiro the dampness had worked its way through the front of my jacket. Hit steady but light rain from there to Te Awamutu, and my arms and front were soaked. The crotch and inner legs of the cordura pants had also allowed rain to soak through. I know they were at the cheaper end of the market, but should,ve performed better than that.

I will be getting a set of the Oringi farm gear tomorrow and wearing it over my leathers from now on.

[Quasievil]

One Piece over suit guys, cheap as chips ($80 ish) and it dont leak ever the trick is to buy one size to big so its easy to get on as well
:msn-wink:

[awa355]

I still have an old nylon quilted jacket thats about 25 years old it still holds out both rain and water but wont do much good in a fall. The pants got ripped years ago, Motomail used to sell them. Dont know if they still do.

[Quasievil]

Did wellington to Hamilton coming back from the Bikoi in the rain........all the way, and not girly rain SAS hard arse rain, I got home and I was dry

$80 one piece over leathers, you cant beat it :yes:

[rustic101]

Rev-It gear pants and jacket for a year now and riden is shitty wellington rain and wind and swear by it the worst I had was wet feet - I forgot to zip mah boots up. Mind you they were Technic boots lol:whistle:

[awa355]

Did wellington to Hamilton coming back from the Bikoi in the rain........all the way, and not girly rain SAS hard arse rain, I got home and I was dry

$80 one piece over leathers, you cant beat it :yes:

So what brand and where from??

[Quasievil]

So what brand and where from??

Qmoto Brand............and out of stock till next year lol

sorry bro, but truly any good one piece will do the trick, motoline do one which is good and comes in a bag

[Pussy]

any good one piece will do the trick, motoline do one which is good and comes in a bag

I've got a Motoline one piece... works bloody good! :niceone:

[sinned]

One Piece over suit guys, cheap as chips ($80 ish) and it dont leak ever the trick is to buy one size to big so its easy to get on as well
:msn-wink:
They need to be a big fitting or it is a real act trying to get into them but that was over Cordura gear which is big. I bought a two piece revit as it was easier to get into. No leakage problem. I have yet to try them over the new leathers which have a lot less bulk and a one piece may have been okay for that.

BTW my rivet pants leak in the crutch as the inner waterproof lining has split. The weakness with revit gear lies in the very thin waterproof membrane. In even light rain I need the overpants on.

[Quasievil]

They need to be a big fitting or it is a real act trying to get into them but that was over Cordura gear which is big. I bought a two piece revit as it was easier to get into. No leakage problem. I have yet to try them over the new leathers which have a lot less bulk and a one piece may have been okay for that.

BTW my rivet pants leak in the crutch as the inner waterproof lining has split. The weakness with revit gear lies in the very thin waterproof membrane. In even light rain I need the overpants on.

Isnt that what I said?

Why are you wearing a one piece over Cordura ?

[Mystic13]

I'm with Q on the oversuit. I've used the two piece for yonks and you just stay dry with it on. The advantage of the two piece are;

- toilet stops
- any stops you can strip the tops off with ease.
- when the rain stops you can whip the jacket off and leave the pants on. Jacket off and on routine is easy.

Rev-it has never worked for me. The thing leaks like a sieve but worse.

[Mystic13]

Why are you wearing a one piece over Cordura ?

Most Cordura leaks.

[Quasievil]

Most Cordura leaks.

Yes, and I dont sell it, one it usually fails on the waterproofness, and two its crap in a crash.
its popular because its usually cheap

[davebullet]

I'm with Q on the oversuit. I've used the two piece for yonks and you just stay dry with it on. The advantage of the two piece are;

- toilet stops
- any stops you can strip the tops off with ease.
- when the rain stops you can whip the jacket off and leave the pants on. Jacket off and on routine is easy.

Rev-it has never worked for me. The thing leaks like a sieve but worse.

With a one piece, just pee in it. If it is raining, no one knows anyway. And, if you are going to end up wet, may as well be momentarily warm and wet.

[Horse]

Crashed in my Rev'IT gloves. Knuckles ground off and I didn't even know my hands had hit the ground. I'll probably buy another set.

Ditto. And so I did buy another pair of Revit winter gloves.

I was in Turangi to see the riders coming back from this year's Grand Challenge. They rode through about 21 hours of constant rain. The best performing rain-gear I saw was the guy on a Dyna who got off his bike, stripped off the two-piece Harley-Davidson branded rain suit, and was bone-dry underneath. It had bright orange high-vis panels, and an enormous orange HD logo on the back, making it anathema to the cognoscenti of cool here on KB. But it obviously worked.

[Owl]

With a one piece, just pee in it. If it is raining, no one knows anyway.

Yellow rain drops on the windscreen behind you is a dead give away!:eek5: