Gary Gygax dies

[gunnyrob]

Nooooooooooo:crybaby:
RIP Gary, D&D addicts everywhere mourn your loss.

Dungeons & Dragons creator Gary Gygax dies

Agence France-Presse

CHICAGO - Gary Gygax, co-creator of the iconic Dungeons & Dragons fantasy game and considered the father of modern role-playing gaming, died in his home Tuesday, his wife said.

Gygax had been suffering from a number of health problems including an incurable heart aneurism, Gail Gygax said. He was 69.

First published in 1974, the Dungeons & Dragons game, in which players create magical and heroic characters and guide them through a series of adventures, soon became a cultural phenomenon.

There was no game board in this interactive, imaginative adventure: just paper, pen, the dungeon master's rule book and a set of multisided dice.

D&D spawned a booming industry and has inspired a generation of writers, video game designers and filmmakers.

Gygax's cult hero status among self-proclaimed geeks is so intense that one fan even named a strain of bacteria after him.

But he faced intense criticism in the 1980s when the game became a target for cultural conservatives who blamed it for causing teen suicides, murder and devil worship.

"That really pushed the sales up," Gygax joked in an interview with GameSpy.

"What bothered me is that I was getting death threats, telephone calls, and letters. I was a little nervous. I had a bodyguard for a while.

"I'm glad that most people have been able to separate the fantasy of the game from the reality of real life -- games have nothing to do with real life. There are no real dragons, there's no real magic, no real magic swords, and certainly no real treasure... or I would have retired at home by now."

The popularity of Dungeons and Dragons faded in the 1990s as the video games boom began, but Gygax's influence in the gaming world continued through his columns and the more than 80 games, game products, and books he created.

A voracious reader with an unfettered imagination, Gygax worked intensely until his health deteriorated in 2004.

"He would be in a daze," Gail Gygax said. "Especially when he was creating a new world. One time he was painting a globe for two weeks."

She said that while he used computers to help speed up the designs for his games and the writing of his books, he never really got interested in video games.

"He liked the group environment where you were with people," she said.

"He played all kinds of games ... we would have a game of cribbage on our front porch every night in the summer."

[James Deuce]

Cheers Rob, what a huge shame. That bloke made life bearable for Geeks and Nerds from the '70s to the '90s.

We made friends, goddammit!

[El Dopa]

Failed his 'save vs death' roll.....

[Hitcher]

D&D. A previous obsession, in the period somewhere between religion and motorcycles. I hate to think how many days were spent on this. Moving to Wellington weaned me off it. What use is a level 21 magic user in a town like this anyway?

[James Deuce]

Or a level 8 Fighter called "Tora Shinto" with 18/00 Strength and Intelligence of 6.

[Kendog]

D&D. A previous obsession, in the period somewhere between religion and motorcycles. I hate to think how many days were spent on this. Moving to Wellington weaned me off it. What use is a level 21 magic user in a town like this anyway?

I came to Wellington with Killard and Dalamar years ago, neither have seen the light of day since :(

[Hitcher]

Or a level 8 Fighter called "Tora Shinto" with 18/00 Strength and Intelligence of 6.

Easily impressed by floating discs and alchemy. Fortunately. Magic users need friends like Tora Shinto. Particularly when they're learning their craft.

[Mikkel]

RIP Gary - this man certainly instigated a revolution that ultimately resulted in a public more accepting of rampant imagination!

Although the heyday of pen'n'paper roleplaying games seems to have come and gone I am very glad I got on one of the last trains in the mid 90s.

I just hope Gary failed his saving throw against disease before his CON hit 0 - undeath is nasty business, and very hard on the family as well I believe.


Or a level 8 Fighter called "Tora Shinto" with 18/00 Strength and Intelligence of 6.

Intelligence and Charisma was absolutely irrelevant in AD&D for a fighter. It's a perfect trade off! Nothing beats the +3 To Hit and +6 to Damage bonuses. Pft, unless you had a flexible DM who'd accept you spending language slots on non-weapon proficiencies, int was a waste for anyone but mages!

:D

[Drunken Monkey]

He finally found out what it is like to run out of hit points in real life.

[Mikkel]

He finally found out what it is like to run out of hit points in real life.

Well... there are other ways than that to pass from the prime material plane. :yes:

[James Deuce]

http://wilwheaton.typepad.com/wwdnbackup/2008/03/across-the-sea.html

Yes, that's Wil Wheaton, Gordie from Stand By Me, and Ensign Crusher from ST:TNG. His Blog roxxors!

[Jiminy]

That's sad news. So many hours of fun I owe him, and probably a couple of my best friends.

Although modern board games have taken over back home, role playing game is still alive. But like many, I've dropped my annual contribution to the cause when moving here, with the language barrier being a factor.


Or a level 8 Fighter called "Tora Shinto" with 18/00 Strength and Intelligence of 6.

Were you actually playing your character as per its characteristics? :)

[James Deuce]

Amazingly yes. Very good at breaking down doors. With his head. Alas, he was slain by a Catoblepas. Out the back of a pub.

[gijoe1313]

Ahh geez, no cleric to cast resurrection? :no:

I lament his passing, long were the hours passed in the rolling of dice, bad were the gaming puns, volumes of musty modules perused, wandering monsters generated and despatched ...

Behold! (no, not Beholders) Let his spirit and silver cord remain unbroken, psionics aside and those damnable volge-bohemian-ear-spoon polearms!

THAC0 rolls, failing a save when the Red Dragon flooms you with a 20HD fireball, wondering how to transport 160,000cps, 21000 eps, 15000 sps, 18000 gps, 2000 pps and assorted gems and rubies and enchanted claptrap (philtre of love? Belt of gender change?)

Oriental Adventures, Unearthed Arcana, Monster Manuals, Deities & Demi Gods, World Of Greyhawk, Return to Ravenloft, Dragonlance, SnarfQuest, Rolling on the random damage tables (traps), Green slime and Gelantinous Cubes, Rust monsters, Level draining beasties (Spectres, Wraiths) Ghosts which all elves used to run at (for the age bonuses! lol)

Those crappy unarmed wrestling tables, iron rations? What be they? Everyone needs rope and a 10' pole, iron spikes and a mallet!

Was that 120' passage 10' wide narrowing to 5' with a door 60' in the east wall? I check for traps/secret doors/slope of passage/pick lock etc...

Getting in backstabs or being surprised! Combat rounds of 1 minute divided into segments, turns of 10 minutes ... wait ... where do all these random monsters come from?

Good times ... good company ... and nerdish as hell! :rofl: Dammit, I was always the DM for these things! Only got to play PCs for a handful of campaigns :pinch:

[gijoe1313]

Or a level 8 Fighter called "Tora Shinto" with 18/00 Strength and Intelligence of 6.

And don't forget that other useless attribute of Comeliness! Great when your female cleric had CHA18 and a COM22 W00ters! ("ooh look, city guards to get by .... send in our cleric!" sez the PCS, unfortunately bastard DM sez "too bad they are homosexuals..." "......... send in our babarian with the loincloth!" ".....doh!....")

[Steam]

I am sure my dungeon master had us fight a monster called a Gygax.

Before I left Wellington we'd play every second weekend in Johnsonville, four of us, while the girlfriends did something the hell else. They watched a DVD upstairs or got drunk or something while we looted the abandoned elvish tower.

I moved to Dunedin and the role-playing nerds spotted me within days by my Star Trek RPG t-shirt. "Come play!" they enthused!
No, said I, I will have no time for study.

The Gygax is dead, long live the Gygax!

Remember some of these books?

[Mikkel]

Amazingly yes. Very good at breaking down doors. With his head. Alas, he was slain by a Catoblepas. Out the back of a pub.

My characters usually died from rather mundane things - not when fighting the dragon or the lich...

I love how they handled falling damage... According to the rules a lvl 15 character would have no trouble surviving a 60' drop :rolleyes:


Those crappy unarmed wrestling tables, iron rations? What be they? Everyone needs rope and a 10' pole, iron spikes and a mallet!

Nothing better than to buy a 15' pole and a rope at 150% the normal length - and not telling the DM until his clever traps have been sprung. :lol:

And for carrying your stuff around - nothing better than a portable hole :pinch:


Remember some of these books?

Sure do, grew up with the 2nd Ed. AD&D Player's Handbook! :)


Was wondering if you guys are reading The Order of the Stick (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0001.html). If not - I'm sure you'll enjoy it :yes:

[Steam]

And for carrying your stuff around - nothing better than a portable hole :pinch:


I had a Pocket Of Infinite Depth, in which I must have carried tons around in.
But then the DM thought that was cheating a bit, so he said if I put things in it they'd keep falling to the bottom - and there was NO bottom, because it had infinite depth, see?
So whenever I wanted something I had to tip the pocket upside down and the items would fall back to the mouth of the pocket, then rummage around for a whole turn to find it.
In the end it was impractical, although I experimented with keeping it upside down at all times to keep things from falling away to infinity.

The DM was much happier about the Bag of Astounding Capacity I replaced it with. I couldn't carry much around in it, but it was enough to take all my treasure home.

[Hitcher]

One feels like getting liquored one evening and, with an entourage of the like-minded, dusting off a D&D box and seeing what happens next. For old-times' sake.

[Mikkel]

I had a Pocket Of Infinite Depth, in which I must have carried tons around in.
But then the DM thought that was cheating a bit, so he said if I put things in it they'd keep falling to the bottom - and there was NO bottom, because it had infinite depth, see?
So whenever I wanted something I had to tip the pocket upside down and the items would fall back to the mouth of the pocket, then rummage around for a whole turn to find it.
In the end it was impractical, although I experimented with keeping it upside down at all times to keep things from falling away to infinity.

The DM was much happier about the Bag of Astounding Capacity I replaced it with. I couldn't carry much around in it, but it was enough to take all my treasure home.

Well, it ought to have taken as long time for the stuff to come to the opening as it had been in the bag... Could be used for a CLEVER plan! :yes:

Anyway, if you just used it store treasure surely one turn wouldn't be too impractical.


One feels like getting liquored one evening and, with an entourage of the like-minded, dusting off a D&D box and seeing what happens next. For old-times' sake.

Fuck, I could be keen on that! :niceone:

[EJK]

D&D.... I hardly remember that game... lol

[Big Dave]

One feels like getting liquored one evening and, with an entourage of the like-minded, dusting off a D&D box and seeing what happens next. For old-times' sake.

The cool people will still laugh at you.

[James Deuce]

We no longer care.

Most of the cool people who used to torment us and drove us into the science labs and teacher's lounges to play with dice are wondering how we can afford two bikes, a drum kit, a house, the odd overseas trip, while the cool people from back then have two jail terms, and 4 marriages and 38 children between 12 different woment to support.

[Mikkel]

We no longer care.

You must mean, we've learned to cry on the inside... and for other reasons! :yes:



Most of the cool people who used to torment us and drove us into the science labs and teacher's lounges to play with dice are wondering how we can afford two bikes, a drum kit, a house, the odd overseas trip, while the cool people from back then have two jail terms, and 4 marriages and 38 children between 12 different woment to support.

It is a funny old world like that eh? At least the physical evidence suggests that they might have gotten laid more often than us though... :rolleyes:

[James Deuce]

It is a funny old world like that eh? At least the physical evidence suggests that they might have gotten laid more often than us though... :rolleyes:

No, we can spell & use contraception. Thanks largely to Gary's voluminous vocabulary.

[Mikkel]

No, we can spell & use contraception. Thanks largely to Gary's voluminous vocabulary.

Actually - and don't tell anyone - I learned english from this fella (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Laffer) around the age of 11 :D ...incidently that also taught me about condoms. :yes:

Not that I was ever at risk - my parents were not afraid to talk to me about those subjects. I fear not everyone was that lucky.

[pzkpfw]

Geez, I'm in a group right now that still meets once a week to play. (Currently the D20, 3.5. version.)

Tip: "Dungeons and Dragons" in the "hobbies" section of your C.V. can be a good ice breaker.

Motorcycles and D&D (and family and job and ...). They can all go together.


P.S.

"THACO"! Oh you young folk.

"Falling damage". How many articles in Dragon magazine were titled "A better way to calculate falling damage?"!

Cheers,

[Big Dave]

We no longer care.

Most of the cool people who used to torment us and drove us into the science labs and teacher's lounges to play with dice are wondering how we can afford two bikes, a drum kit, a house, the odd overseas trip, while the cool people from back then have two jail terms, and 4 marriages and 38 children between 12 different woment to support.


Obviously pretenders. True hip lasts a lifetime.

[James Deuce]

A point we TRIED to make at the time and what did we get for our troubles? I'll tell you; Atomic Wedgies.

[Big Dave]

Poor Jim.
I was the tallest person at brainiac school by 3rd form - teachers included.
Never bullied anyone though. Too busy chasing girls.

[Mikkel]

Oh, and Order of the Stick of course has a tribute to the G-man today:

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0536.html


"Falling damage". How many articles in Dragon magazine were titled "A better way to calculate falling damage?"!


Quite a whole lot actually! :yes:

[gijoe1313]

Geez, I'm in a group right now that still meets once a week to play. (Currently the D20, 3.5. version.)

Tip: "Dungeons and Dragons" in the "hobbies" section of your C.V. can be a good ice breaker.

Motorcycles and D&D (and family and job and ...). They can all go together.


P.S.

"THACO"! Oh you young folk.

"Falling damage". How many articles in Dragon magazine were titled "A better way to calculate falling damage?"!

Cheers,

No worries if you be a high level monk and within 10' of the cliff surface! :lol:

And besides, once we decided we wanted more gritty fantasy there was always Runequest (ouch impaled by an arbalest bolt in the neck!) and the infinite tables of damage complexity with class criticals of I.C.E. game systems (oooh a E slash and C crush crit secondary... gotta hurt!)

[jrandom]

The boys at Penny Arcade hit the right note.

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Mr Gygax is single-handedly responsible for millions of happy hours and the flowering of countless youthful imaginations. I can't think of a better reason to rest in peace after a life well spent.

[Big Dave]

There is a corker of a retort there too - I defer in respect.

[James Deuce]

Poor Jim.
I was the tallest person at brainiac school by 3rd form - teachers included.
Never bullied anyone though. Too busy chasing girls.

I will insist to my dying day that the hair loss from the front of my head was due to a Jockey waistband restricting blood flow to my scalp. Along with me never needing a Brazilian.

Would that all Yetis could chase girls instead of boys.

[gijoe1313]

Ahh the memories .. Keep on the Borderlands, Shelob's Lair and all those classic modules.

If I didn't have those diversions, I wonder what sorts of mischief I would have got up to? (Oh wait, I did it anyway! :doh:)

Now, where did I put those dice ... might spend some time rolling up some characters for some of the amassed RPG systems I merrily spent my student allowance on! :devil2:

(Heck, I still do it now! Dang Warhammer40K and Fantasy!)

[El Dopa]

A point we TRIED to make at the time and what did we get for our troubles? I'll tell you; Atomic Wedgies.

You seen 'Broadcast News'? I'm thinking of the flashback scene at the beginning where the nerd gets beaten up by the jocks, and as they walk aways yells something like: "you might have won this round, but here's a thought that will haunt you to your dying days: none of you will ever earn more than $25,000 p/a!"

Of course, they all walk away going 'hmmm, $25K, eh? That's a pretty good score.....'

[Kendog]

One feels like getting liquored one evening and, with an entourage of the like-minded, dusting off a D&D box and seeing what happens next. For old-times' sake.

Liquor, sounds good.

Oh yeah, D&D would be good as well.

[Mikkel]

Liquor, sounds good.

Oh yeah, D&D would be good as well.

Then we're three so far. Anyone wanna be DM?

:)

[Steam]

Then we're three so far. Anyone wanna be DM?

Mikkel, you live in Christchurch!
I'd be keen if I was still in Welly.
Keep me appraised of a possible date and I may be up that way. I need an excuse to use up a Bluebridge ferry + motorcycle return ticket I bought a while ago. Plus I quit university so I have some free time now.

[Mikkel]

Mikkel, you live in Christchurch!
I'd be keen if I was still in Welly.
Keep me appraised of a possible date and I may be up that way. I need an excuse to use up a Bluebridge ferry + motorcycle return ticket I bought a while ago. Plus I quit university so I have some free time now.

Fuck living in Chch. Plane tickets to Welly are cheap - besides, as you say, an excuse for a longish bike ride wouldn't be a bad thing!

[Steam]

We had an almost all-motorcyclist D&D session last year; the two players were me on my CX400 and a non-KBer friend and his wife on his Triumph Triple. The DM didn't ride though.

[Drunken Monkey]

Then we're three so far. Anyone wanna be DM?

:)

"dust off" implies there's manuals around to be dusted off. I gave up D&D long before I gave up RPGs. I still have Cyberpunk 2020 in my cupboard for some reason, I thought I had Twilight 2000 as well, but someone appears to have nicked it. I can't fathom why.

But I digress. You don't forget the rules, I think I could still play without any manuals, to a fair degree of canonical accuracy. Sad, innit?

We're a bit geographically spread. Play-by-forum-thread anyone?

PS - Just had a thought; we could use the kb chat function, lol!

[James Deuce]

We're a bit geographically spread. Play-by-forum-thread anyone?

Gaaah! Imagine the bitch sessions!

How about web cam? :)

[Mikkel]

How about web cam? :)

Not a bad idea... except: You'd miss out on that crucial sweaty mucky smell that comes from being 4-8 people in a smallish dark room drinking too much coke and eating too many chips... It ain't roleplaying without it!

[Drunken Monkey]

Gaaah! Imagine the bitch sessions!

How about web cam? :)

D&D by Skype? Could work!

Need to rely on the honesty system for rolls though. I suspect there will be an unusually high number of 20's rolled during combat...

[El Dopa]

Play-by-forum-thread anyone?

OK, I'll start.

You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.

[jrandom]

Need to rely on the honesty system for rolls though.

Just set up a roll server with hardware RNG and a chat bot. Piece of cake.

And you played Cyberpunk! Gosh. I remember that well from intermediate school lunchbreaks. That takes me back.

Anyway, I'll be in Welly over Easter. I'm sure I can borrow a set of dice if nobody else has 'em handy... which version are we playing?

:2thumbsup

[Big Dave]

OK, I'll start.

You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.

You are dreaming of having a girlfriend.

[jrandom]

You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.

> eat grue

[El Dopa]

> eat grue

You hungrily devour the grue.
You suddenly feel as if you are in Soviet Russia.

[Drunken Monkey]

And you played Cyberpunk! Gosh. I remember that well from intermediate school lunchbreaks. That takes me back.

Played it, then modded it slightly and played the mod version for even longer. All PC's were different classes of Cop and some of the FNFF rules were made a bit more complex, but in essence the same thing.

Actually we used to make a lot of our own ones from scratch. You'd take the things that worked from one game, add some new rules and change the theme. Rinse. Repeat.

[Mikkel]

Praise Kalashnikov and Stolichnaya!
Time to flush out some dissenters methinks...


As for version - dunno. All of my books are stashed away in an attic in a very old villa in Denmark. Getting them here would take at least a month... and be about as expensive as buying it all new (not that you could - there's a Shadowrun 2nd Ed. rulebook amongst the lot).

[Steam]

You hungrily devour the grue.
You suddenly feel as if you are in Soviet Russia.


> eat grue


OK, I'll start.

You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.




WARNING; THIS IS A NOTIFICATION FROM ORBITAL OBSERVATION PLATFORM OVERLORD 17. YOU HAVE EXCEEDED YOUR PERMITTED GEEK QUOTIENT BY BEGINNING AN ONLINE RPG WITHIN A MOTORCYCLE FORUM ENVIRONMENT. THIS IS A FORBIDDEN OPERATION AND HAS BEEN CLASSIFIED AS A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY. STAND DOWN IMMEDIATELY OR ORBITAL BOMBARDMENT WILL BE INITIATED. YOUR TERMINAL LOCATIONS HAVE BEEN TRACED. THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING.
Message repeats....

[Mikkel]

WARNING; THIS IS A NOTIFICATION FROM ORBITAL OBSERVATION PLATFORM OVERLORD 17. YOU HAVE EXCEEDED YOUR PERMITTED GEEK QUOTIENT BY BEGINNING AN ONLINE RPG WITHIN A MOTORCYCLE FORUM ENVIRONMENT. THIS IS A FORBIDDEN OPERATION AND HAS BEEN CLASSIFIED AS A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY. STAND DOWN IMMEDIATELY OR ORBITAL BOMBARDMENT WILL BE INITIATED. YOUR TERMINAL LOCATIONS HAVE BEEN TRACED. THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING.
Message repeats....

I ignore the voices in my head for once and start exploring the catacombs.

[El Dopa]

You are dreaming of having a girlfriend.

The irony of being cussed out as a geek. On an internet forum.:bleh:

[Indiana_Jones]

Well I'm no RPG fan etc, but I do read "Order of the stick", any of you RPG guys would like this I guess :yes:

here's a link to the tribute comic for Gary Gygax

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0536.html

-Indy

[gijoe1313]

Game Systems residing in my closet ...

D&D (Basic, Expert, Advanced)
Runequest
MERP
Cyberpunk2020
Mekton
Twilight2000
Merc
Elfquest
Marvel Superheroes
Star Frontiers
Traveller
DC Superheroes
Underground
TMNT/Palladium
Robotech
Toon
GURPS
Ninja
Dragonquest
Paranoia

.... about all I can remember off the top of my head at the moment! Even got a ton of supplements/modules/DM/GM screens/miniatures/mapboards etc. floating about... used to play a lot of Cyberpunk2020 at uni on Friday nights (of course ... FNFF! :devil2:)

And I used to GM all the blardy time! :lol: :pinch:

[gijoe1313]

OK, I'll start.

You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.

I cast continual light directly onto the thief's eyes so he can be blinded and looks like an idiot bouncing off into walls, I use the magic user's dagger to scratch "Kilroy was here" onto a wall,stick the dagger in a crack next to it and bind a rune of explosion onto it. I put a gold piece on the floor behind our party and cast delayed fireball on it... for 1 segment after it is moved...

I cast unseen servant to drag a 10' pole behind it which has 2 bags of oil on a roped trailing 15' back and a continual darkness spell on the pole ... (the oil bags so I can cast flaming arrow at one of them when monsters blithely wander through the darkness and shout)

Along the way cast cantrips to flick the ear of the fighter ahead wearing a full helm just to annoy him and another cantrip to loosen the clasp off the female clerics AC5 chainmail bra... use cantrips whisper to suggest that the elf ranger has a thing for the dwarven paladin .... and prepare materials for dimension door in case I've pissed off the party enough!

[Big Dave]

The irony of being cussed out as a geek. On an internet forum.:bleh:

Delightful innit.

[Drunken Monkey]

The flicking of my ear infuriates me so (Wisdom = 6). Seeing as I am a complete and utter random bastard (Alignment = Chaotic Evil), I turn around and run GIJoe through with my sword.

[gijoe1313]

The flicking of my ear infuriates me so (Wisdom = 6). Seeing as I am a complete and utter random bastard (Alignment = Chaotic Evil), I turn around and run GIJoe through with my sword.

Fortunately I won initiative, cast Dimension Door on Drunken CE Fighter Monkey and port him back to the Tavern where we started from (I'm sure the buxom bar wenches will make him forget his churlish behaviour and I can always port him back later when the party meets the Liche!)

And yes, vorpal swords do hurt when they hit! :pinch: Makes my staff +2 of multiple magic missiles look a little useless!

[Drunken Monkey]

Fail my saving throw vs. Charisma and succumb to bar wenches charm. Spent all my electrum pieces on Ale and pass out (INT and DEX -3 temporarily). Pass out for 10 turns.

[gijoe1313]

Party runs into a Lawful Good creature and cannot get pass it, nor solve its clever puzzle (Magic User rolls 1 on INT ... damn! Must have been the sight of the Cleric losing her chainmail bra! :pinch:)

Need Chaotic Evil PC to attack creature to justify rest of party pulping it! Dimension door back Drunken Monkey ... only to discover he is still in the 8th turn of stupor ...

Wait through 2 turns of random encounter rolls which results in 110 kobolds to fight and a rust monster. Kill all kobolds, leave rust monster alone to dissolve female cleric's chainmail armour! :o


(And yes, I had an intrepid band of adventurers do this in one campaign and other more ridiculous yet feasible happenstances!)

[Mikkel]

Fail my saving throw vs. Charisma and succumb to bar wenches charm. Spent all my electrum pieces on Ale and pass out (INT and DEX -3 temporarily). Pass out for 10 turns.

Not to be pedantic... but if you pass out you are effectively prone and as such your dexterity bonus will not apply to AC! As such the dex penalty seems rather redundant, wouldn't you agree?

[Waylander]

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[Hinny]

I moved to Dunedin and the role-playing nerds spotted me within days by my Star Trek RPG t-shirt. "Come play!" they enthused!
No, said I, I will have no time for study.

FFS if you have to study to get through at Otago you are having to try hard to get past first base. Life in Dn. is so much more. Maybe you should forget you have a degree and go drive a bus.

[Hinny]

And for carrying your stuff around - nothing better than a portable hole :pinch:



Ethos of a working girl/boy.

[Mikkel]

Ethos of a working girl/boy.

Says the male decorator... :rolleyes: