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riffer
6th March 2008, 09:56
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4428152a10.html?source=RSStopstories_20080306

Sorry, I don't get it. Police were powerless to intervene?

Customary rights over-ride the law in this country now? Even if you are only married to Maori your body can be stolen from the funeral, and buried on Maori land against your express wishes and the law is unable to be applied. I thought this was covered by offering indecencies to a body...

I'm of Scottish and Latvian extraction. I'm married to a Tainui woman. If I die can my body be stolen and buried in Paeroa against the wishes in my will?

I have no idea where this could end but I don't like where it's headed...

yod
6th March 2008, 09:57
nice to be popular init....

Mikkel
6th March 2008, 10:06
I see it in my mind:

Body Snatchers (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106452/) 2: Once Were Body Snatchers.

:lol:

Pwalo
6th March 2008, 11:43
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4428152a10.html?source=RSStopstories_20080306


I'm of Scottish and Latvian extraction. I'm married to a Tainui woman. If I die can my body be stolen and buried in Paeroa against the wishes in my will?

I have no idea where this could end but I don't like where it's headed...

Make sure you're not too popular with the in laws old fellow.

Livvy
6th March 2008, 11:55
Make sure you're not too popular with the in laws old fellow.
All I can say is: fucking hell.

I'm Taumarunui born and raised; and I know all the maraes in the area quite well. I quite possibly know these people by sight - which though isn't a big thing, it is a little shocking... seeing as my friend Katrina was also farewelled yesterday at Seddon Park Funeral Home.

Just a little too close to home I guess. Very shocking as well... Most people from Taumarunui are very relaxed.

JimO
6th March 2008, 15:35
I see it in my mind:

Body Snatchers (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106452/) 2: Once Were Body Snatchers.

:lol:

jake the corpse....and uncle fcn decomp

Maha
6th March 2008, 15:40
The snatcher must have had help?
The article reads as if she lifted the body herself, cant be so?

JimO
6th March 2008, 15:43
radio said her and two carloads of "bro's"

PrincessBandit
6th March 2008, 16:47
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4428152a10.html?source=RSStopstories_20080306

Sorry, I don't get it. Police were powerless to intervene?

Customary rights over-ride the law in this country now? ... I'm married to a Tainui woman. If I die can my body be stolen and buried in Paeroa against the wishes in my will?



would certainly seem that way - you'll just have to outlive them all, and hope that by the time you get to the great great grand kids stage (having survived the intervening generations in the meantime) that they won't be into that kind of thing any more. :rolleyes:

HornetBoy
6th March 2008, 17:33
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4428152a10.html?source=RSStopstories_20080306

Sorry, I don't get it. Police were powerless to intervene?

Customary rights over-ride the law in this country now? Even if you are only married to Maori your body can be stolen from the funeral, and buried on Maori land against your express wishes and the law is unable to be applied. I thought this was covered by offering indecencies to a body...

I'm of Scottish and Latvian extraction. I'm married to a Tainui woman. If I die can my body be stolen and buried in Paeroa against the wishes in my will?


I have no idea where this could end but I don't like where it's headed...

Personally i think this cultural heritage stuff is getting out of hand eg
foreshore and seabed ,this is my land because my ancestor used to live on it ,its all a crock of s%^& you only own a piece of land if you have the deed or
if you buy it plain and simple :yes:
and now they are starting to take bodies from the funeral home and put them in a private burial grounds .....:angry:

I mean Whats next ...

Gubb
6th March 2008, 18:27
Just watched the bit on Close Up, which was immediately followed by an ad for Will services at the Life Trust.

Fat lot of good it did for that lady. :confused:

Ah. Irony.

MSTRS
6th March 2008, 18:32
I mean Whats next ...

Umus. People sized.

riffer
6th March 2008, 22:04
So, what are we learning here?

Should I gather a few others, get ourselves naked and painted up with wode, and start cracking some skulls whenever I feel my culture is under threat?

I'm all for sharing our cultural diversity, but one culture should not have the right to override another, particularly when it's someones wishes expressed in a will.

However, I feel the media are mainly portraying this as a cultural issue when its really about a grieving daughter acting very very foolishly.

Either way - shame on you Hikairo Marae. And shame on you Taumarunui police for closing the roads to the marae. I accuse you both of aiding and abetting the offering of indignities to a body.

98tls
6th March 2008, 22:16
Dont understand it at all,what i do know is that being a honky if i tried the same then the powers that be would find the powers to intervene.

Pwalo
7th March 2008, 06:50
Well I'm part French and Irish, so I'm off to start a riot and burn a few cars. It's my cultural heritage and right. Hang on, I'll probably just burn my lips trying to blow up that bus.

slimjim
7th March 2008, 06:54
such is life .................

devnull
7th March 2008, 06:57
The police should be all over this... After all, if they keep trotting out the "civil matter" excuse, sooner or later someone will just take the law into their own hands.

Though I guess the upside of that would be that once one of these lowlifes was killed while trying to snatch a body, the politicians might wake up.

I wonder if you could tell the cops to piss off after you shot one of these pricks because it was a "civil matter" :niceone:

Gubb
7th March 2008, 07:00
I think that where the police are coming from is "When does a person become property"? Until that is realised, they are pretty much powerless, as there aren't really any laws concerning this.

BiK3RChiK
7th March 2008, 07:40
I think this has happened about 3 times in the very recent past in NZ... It shows you the moral fortitude of some people, IMO!!! That is, they have no compassion and no morals... Forget the wishes of the dead and their close, close family; traditional protocol must come first! YEAH RIGHT!!! I'd steal it right back!

M

westie
7th March 2008, 08:16
Getting sick of this one rule for New Zealand and another for...............
Cops would have been all over it had it been me:shifty:

Its cos I is white innit!

Jantar
7th March 2008, 08:28
I think that where the police are coming from is "When does a person become property"? ......

But the casket was stolen too. Surely that is the property of whoever bought it?