Discrimination in Oz

[chrisso]

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[CookMySock]

Welcome to thePoPohttp://img523.imageshack.us/img523/378/signfrompiggiestt4.jpglice State. this sign in a Pub at Parramatta( Sydney)all unfairly tarred with the same brush, or genuine objections ?

DB

[BiK3RChiK]

This sort of thing usually arises from too many shit-stirrer types causing trouble. Isn't that the same with 'No Patches Allowed' signs in NZ? I wouldn't call it discrimination...

Just my 0.02

M

[chrisso]

The funny thing is it doesnt mention the Hells Angels MC, which are in the area.

[P38]

Don't think thats really discriminating against anyone.

More like discriminating against the Gangs Colours.

I have seen "No Abbo's" signs up in northern Queesnland pubs.

It stood out for me but the locals didn't even blink at it.

Aussi's are not as bloody PC as Kiwi's are.

Generally call a spade a spade.

I like that too.

[P38]

The Tuai Gentlemens club used to have a sign up stating

"No Gumboots and Swandri's after 7pm"

Kinda the same thing really.

[Deviant]

I wouldn't call that discrimination. I'd say that when you join a gang, you are affilliating yourself as a member of a group who live as one- so when one or more in that group cause shit while patched up, they are acting on behalf of the entire group.

There's a good chance that this particular bar has had a lot of problems with gangs and wants them all banned. I don't blame them. Most people don't go to bars to be intimidated or have fights break out.

[DingoZ]

That particular area has lots of troubles with gangs, violence, and other such urban nasties. Most Licensed establishments have signs like this to certain degree's announcing what/who, kind of personage, and what/who's kind of behaviour is tolerated on those premises. Perfectly legal and is not dicriminatory in the least.

Multi thousands dollars of fines, can be imposed on the licence holder of a pub/club, if certain behaviour is allowed to happen on their grounds. Placing restrictions like this is a normal, precautionary measure...

It is not racist as it doesn't specify an ethnic race, or impose restrictions based on skin colour, or religious belief. Now to some a motorcycle gang, or similar is a "religion", but not according to the law's definition..

I had similar restrictions at my pub, "No Gang parephanalia or colours" was one of them....


0.02c

[fredie]

they can enter . its no offence too them :laugh:its the pub that will get in trouble:Police:

[James Deuce]

Used to have signs like that up in Hutt Hospital. The signs have been taken down in case it made one of the Hard Case gang members cry. There were cases of rival gangs abducting kids who belonged to rivsal gangs and punch ups in the corridors, so the hospital refused to treat them and put the signs up and got slapped mightily by NZ's anti-discrimination laws. Now they expect 5'2" 22 year old female nurses to enforce the "policy".

I'd say it was sensible. I'd say that NZ discriminates against Tax & Rate paying Joe Public by not providing a safe hospital environment.

[James Deuce]

It is not racist as it doesn't specify an ethnic race, or impose restrictions based on skin colour, or religious belief. Now to some a motorcycle gang, or similar is a "religion", but not according to the law's definition..


No it isn't. Most Australian Aboriginals can't get a job that allows them buy a motorcycle, let alone manage to breach the social glass ceiling of moving up social strata to gain the hallowed class status of "Gang Member". p/t.

[Fatjim]

Who needs a job to buy a motorcylce in Oz?

[scumdog]

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Hmm, never realised there were so many 'agencies' catering for insecure people....<_<

[craigs288]

While I admit "Coffin Cheaters" has a bit of a ring to it, but

"Mobshitters"???????

Come the f*ck on. What kind of knob-muncher calls himself a mobshitter??

Oh, yeah, oh, sorry if there's any mobshitters who is kiwibikershitters too.
Didn't mean nothing by it.
Please don't form a mob and shit on me. I don't like poos.
My bad.

[craigs288]

I'd say it was sensible. I'd say that NZ discriminates against Tax & Rate paying Joe Public by not providing a safe hospital environment.

You would have been more accurate if you just left off everything after Joe Public.

[mstriumph]

The funny thing is it doesnt mention the Hells Angels MC, which are in the area.

that's cause it's a Hells Angels clubhouse? :shutup:

[mstriumph]

While I admit "Coffin Cheaters" has a bit of a ring to it, but

"Mobshitters"???????

Come the f*ck on. What kind of knob-muncher calls himself a mobshitter??

.........

well they wanted to be called the gangbangers but that was already taken ... so they had to think up some OTHER communal body function :devil2:

[mstriumph]

........ Most Licensed establishments have signs like this to certain degree's announcing what/who, kind of personage, and what/who's kind of behaviour is tolerated on those premises. Perfectly legal and is not dicriminatory in the least. ...........

more a dress code than discrimination ... :cool:

[fredie]

what about the gang name gods garbage:Pokey:

[AgroMSMC1%]

While I admit "Coffin Cheaters" has a bit of a ring to it, but

"Mobshitters"???????

Come the f*ck on. What kind of knob-muncher calls himself a mobshitter??

Oh, yeah, oh, sorry if there's any mobshitters who is kiwibikershitters too.
Didn't mean nothing by it.
Please don't form a mob and shit on me. I don't like poos.
My bad.

Your the only knob muncher here fool....... just another keyboard commando with a big mouth...... I think the best way for you to find out, would be to come to Australia and ask one of us yourself.....

[ManDownUnder]

Hmm, never realised there were so many 'agencies' catering for insecure people....<_<

They're 'Clubs' ya wally... as evidenced by the fact they enjoy a good clubbing

[ital916]

Your the only knob muncher here fool....... just another keyboard commando with a big mouth...... I think the best way for you to find out, would be to come to Australia and ask one of us yourself.....

Calm.

I dont get why there is no hells angels M/C club on that list.

You know whats funny, some of the most polite customers I have ever dealt with have be "m/c" members.

I dont condone the illegal elements of motorcycle clubs in nz and hope they get whats coming to them but there are some genuinely nice people in those clubs too.

Dunno what the haps is in australia though.

What happened to that big courtcase where all the "bikie gangs" were banding together to fight the legislation.

[Patrick]

Your the only knob muncher here fool....... just another keyboard commando with a big mouth...... I think the best way for you to find out, would be to come to Australia and ask one of us yourself.....


Calm.

I dont get why there is no hells angels M/C club on that list.

You know whats funny, some of the most polite customers I have ever dealt with have be "m/c" members.

I dont condone the illegal elements of motorcycle clubs in nz and hope they get whats coming to them but there are some genuinely nice people in those clubs too.

Dunno what the haps is in australia though.

What happened to that big courtcase where all the "bikie gangs" were banding together to fight the legislation.

The above Agro1% one is real polite.....

Most I deal to are not polite.

Do they do poos communally? Hence the name?

[ital916]

The above Agro1% one is real polite.....

Most I deal to are not polite.

Do they do poos communally? Hence the name?

Yeah, I havent met many 1%ers and working in a bike store, I guess they have no reason to not be polite. Again, I dont condone the shit that some of them do. Im trying to word myself carefully lol.

Soooo whats the actual law that got passed in oz bout it?

[Patrick]

Yeah, I havent met many 1%ers and working in a bike store, I guess they have no reason to not be polite. Again, I dont condone the shit that some of them do. Im trying to word myself carefully lol.

Soooo whats the actual law that got passed in oz bout it?

Mostly brave when the mates are around. Some, are tough pricks on their own though......

Mr Agro1% could be one of these, who knows. He too could be a keyboard warrior, so type away. :laugh:

Looks like its something similar to what is being brought in to W(h???)anganui, banning gang regalia.

[James Deuce]

Soooo whats the actual law that got passed in oz bout it?

Group rides are banned.