Info on SV1000s

[puddy]

I know about GSXR1000s, but don't know shit about SV1000s. Anybody know if there are any differences between the SV1000K1 through to the SV1000K8. Also, what's better, an SV1000 or a VTR1000 (not an SP)?

[Usarka]

Some strange person runs an sv site which has good info on these.... http://www.sv-portal.com/ ????

[Edit] also suggest you test ride the two.... neither the sv or more so the vtr were what i expected.....

[98tls]

Plenty of reading on the VTR here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=38153

[Drew]

The SV650 does EVERYTHING so much better than you expect, the SV1000 lets ya down where you wouldn't expect. Having said that, if you ride it with enough aggresion it can be beaten into submission I found. (Only rode it once over the Rimutaka hill though.)

The VTR/SV debate will be a long one...again...with no clear answer. Go ride them both for extended periods and decide from that. A mate down here has a VTR kitted with loud pipes and Ohilns suspension for sale soon I think, and just bought an SV1000 come to think of it.


FATJIM!!! Where you at white man?

[paturoa]

SV starts at K3 and there is a few differences thru the years. Go have a read at the above links - no point in duplicating here. If you want a new one be quick, cos zook have stopped making them.

[Grahameeboy]

I know about GSXR1000s, but don't know shit about SV1000s. Anybody know if there are any differences between the SV1000K1 through to the SV1000K8. Also, what's better, an SV1000 or a VTR1000 (not an SP)?

The visual difference is that the K5 had a black frame and a few extra changes to the engine to make an extra 5hp.

I think the K7 had white face dial.

I did ride a K4 and the K5 is quicker...not a lot.

SV v VTR - Style, older VTR'S had smaller tank and were thirsty. VTR Carbs (not sure if changed recently) and I guess the SV is just a bit more techno with a slipper style clutch which makes downward shifts great.

VTR probably sounds a wee bit better too...

[dipshit]

This is a good one for info on a SV1000....

www.suzukisv1000.com/index.htm

[98tls]

This is a good one for info on a SV1000....

www.suzukisv1000.com/index.htm You been through lately...just i saw a black one packed up heading north the other day.

[dipshit]

You been through lately...just i saw a black one packed up heading north the other day.

I was a few weeks ago. I've got a blue one though. Just waiting on some carbon fibre Yoshimura RS-3' to turn up... then was thinking of cruising up your way so you could check it out.

Will pm you one day soon. :niceone:

[98tls]

I was a few weeks ago. I've got a blue one though. Just waiting on some carbon fibre Yoshimura RS-3' to turn up... then was thinking of cruising up your way so you could check it out.

Will pm you one day soon. :niceone: :bash:i know you got a blue one........damn hillbillys your insultable.

[puddy]

Thanks. The SV site was good. They did go on a bit!

[Fatjim]

SV v VTR - Style, older VTR'S had smaller tank and were thirsty.



Sorry GB, but this is buulshit!!!!!

The VTR has much better tank range (~50k more), and does about the same MPH, maybe slightly better.

The SV has more power, but is rougher round the edges. It sounds like it's about to shit itself mostly.

The k7 has white dials and different coloured sv1000 logos on the front fairing. Thats all I can see.

They sound different. but alot of that is the different cans that they can have, with most sv's having yoshis.

The vtr is under sprung and over damped on the front, and over sprung on the back. Basically it will dive under braking and has a high risk off locking the front tyre. I did it a few times, ending in a rather sudden spill for no apparent reason before I got the front sorted.

The SV is under damped on the front and under sprung and under damped on the back. Basically it's like riding the cook straight ferry on a bad day, even on the motorway.

Both have shite high speed damping all round.

The vtr is meant to have some character around the cards, namely dying at the lights occasionally, I haven't seen this on mine, but the SV did it the other day.

I will be selling my VTR soon BTW, but I have removed the Ohlins rear to fit onto my next bike. This bike has been faultless, 68,000k's without any issues. Somehow I don't think I'll get that out of the Suzi, as already it really needs some adjustment on the efi to get it to idle when cold.

[toebug]

VTR is running old technology and hasnt come up to the times but is a good bike still. The SV is good bang for buck! Ditch the gay pipes and get some slick aftermarket ones and drop one cog on the front sprocket cause the gearing is very tall. You cxan also do the timing retard eliminator or TRE mod cheaps as chips and will help the girl go!

[Grahameeboy]

Sorry GB, but this is buulshit!!!!!

The VTR has much better tank range (~50k more), and does about the same MPH, maybe slightly better.

The SV has more power, but is rougher round the edges. It sounds like it's about to shit itself mostly.

The k7 has white dials and different coloured sv1000 logos on the front fairing. Thats all I can see.

They sound different. but alot of that is the different cans that they can have, with most sv's having yoshis.

The vtr is under sprung and over damped on the front, and over sprung on the back. Basically it will dive under braking and has a high risk off locking the front tyre. I did it a few times, ending in a rather sudden spill for no apparent reason before I got the front sorted.

The SV is under damped on the front and under sprung and under damped on the back. Basically it's like riding the cook straight ferry on a bad day, even on the motorway.

Both have shite high speed damping all round.

The vtr is meant to have some character around the cards, namely dying at the lights occasionally, I haven't seen this on mine, but the SV did it the other day.

I will be selling my VTR soon BTW, but I have removed the Ohlins rear to fit onto my next bike. This bike has been faultless, 68,000k's without any issues. Somehow I don't think I'll get that out of the Suzi, as already it really needs some adjustment on the efi to get it to idle when cold.

I just said it was thirsty...a mate had one and told me. I am obvioulsly wrong.

I have Arrows on mine...get about 17k's per litre...not sure how that compares...agree on SV sounds rough at times...have done 38,000 k with no probs and only changed oil / filter in last 20,000k's

[Fatjim]

No worries bro, it's just the internet.

[toebug]

The early VTR's only seemed thirsty because of the 16l tank.

[98tls]

Older VTRs did have a smaller tank as in 17L same as the TL,semi interesting reading if you ignore the fact that none of it matters if ya cant ride it anyway,personally i cant find much good to say about an SV,after 2-3 times swapping from a sorted TLS to a SV with ohlins front/back pc2 blah blah blah i just dont get it,quite simply Suzuki were funnily enough right when they defended it by saying "it wasnt meant to replace the TL".Find a bike trader and you will see SVs for sale cheaper than supposedly shocking handling blah blah TLs that "were not meant to replace".On the VTR for sure the suspenders are shit and by all means break the bank and fit ohlins but nothing will make it anymore than an ugly at best unexciting afternoon.

[Morcs]

TL beats them all hands down.

Once you get it setup right.

[98tls]

The early VTR's only seemed thirsty because of the 16l tank. 17..........................

[MidnightMike]

17..........................

"From model year 2001, Honda introduced a number of improvements. These included increasing the tank from 16 liters (3.5 gallons) to 19 liters (4.2 gallons), internal modifications to the front forks, an improved riding position thanks to less steeply raked clip-on bars and an LCD display for fuel level, engine temperature, trip meter, odometer and clock. A Honda Ignition Security System (HISS) immobiliser also became standard"

[98tls]

"From model year 2001, Honda introduced a number of improvements. These included increasing the tank from 16 liters (3.5 gallons) to 19 liters (4.2 gallons), internal modifications to the front forks, an improved riding position thanks to less steeply raked clip-on bars and an LCD display for fuel level, engine temperature, trip meter, odometer and clock. A Honda Ignition Security System (HISS) immobiliser also became standard" I stand corrected.:clap.well maybe,i have a mag that quotes it as 17.

[McJim]

Crikey - I only have a 17.5L tank. But I can squeeze 287km out of it (I know this coz I went for a ride through the Catlins on Waitangi day. All the petrol stations were shut so I ran out of fuel and had to phone Chickadee to come along with the reserve can for the lawnmower!)

If you are considering the SV1000S or the VTR1000 then please also take a look at the Ducati Supersport 1000DS (forget all the specs - ride and decide!)

You won't have to invest in aftermarket suspension with the Ducati either.

[98tls]

You won't have to invest in aftermarket suspension with the Ducati either. You crack me up.

[Drew]

Ducati Supersport 1000DS (forget all the specs - ride and decide!)

You won't have to invest in aftermarket suspension with the Ducati either.

It doesn't fit the same audience in my opinion...


You crack me up.

...but does beg the question, with Aprilia prices dropping all the time, as with Ducati, why no throw them into the mix?

There's an '04 999s in my garage that could be ridden away for $16,500+orc. That's pretty fuckin cheap when you consider it wears Ohlins front and rear, and a bunch of other flash bits.

[toebug]

(forget all the specs - ride and decide!)

Agree! The only real truth is to ride and decide. Even if one is more powerful than the next, are you the kind of rider that can use all the power?:Police:

[Drew]

are you the kind of rider that can use all the power?:Police:

Redundant comment I've always thought, no, most of us mortals cant use the power to it's full potential in certain situations, but in other areas we want more. I rode a Ray Clee built 188horse superbike and the front wheel wont stay down in fourth, but when ya hook fifth it doesn't charge as hard as I wanted it to down the middle straight of manfield.

[toebug]

Redundant comment I've always thought, no, most of us mortals cant use the power to it's full potential in certain situations, but in other areas we want more.

My point exactly. Ride all the bikes in the category and choose the one that suits your riding style