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Mom
8th March 2008, 20:57
Hi guys

Dumb question for tonight.

Cruising down to Hamilton today (pillion) I am finding alot of noise happening on the rhs of my helmet, odd, when I put my hand over the top of the visor it vanishes.

Get to where we want to be, take off helmet and the visor lock falls off?

Closer inspection shows the plastic screw that holds the lock and visor to the helmet has gone.

Here is the dumb question/s. Can you buy the plastic screw? On its own? Do you have to buy a new visor to get a new screw? (my visor is not damaged) Heaven forbid, a new helmet to get the new screw? (ok I admit that is the dumbest one of all).

Lucky we have the tape to hold it all together meantime. (Looks ugly though)

Jantar
8th March 2008, 21:02
I'm not sure about Shoie, but I know Nolan sell accessory packs that includes such items as visor locks, covers clips screws etc. for about half the price of a visor.

FROSTY
8th March 2008, 21:02
come see me--Ill dig out my spares kit--they come with shoeis new

Grahameeboy
8th March 2008, 21:12
Hi guys

Dumb question for tonight.

Cruising down to Hamilton today (pillion) I am finding alot of noise happening on the rhs of my helmet, odd, when I put my hand over the top of the visor it vanishes.

Get to where we want to be, take off helmet and the visor lock falls off?

Closer inspection shows the plastic screw that holds the lock and visor to the helmet has gone.

Here is the dumb question/s. Can you buy the plastic screw? On its own? Do you have to buy a new visor to get a new screw? (my visor is not damaged) Heaven forbid, a new helmet to get the new screw? (ok I admit that is the dumbest one of all).

Lucky we have the tape to hold it all together meantime. (Looks ugly though)

I am happy to pop into Motomail and ask for you and I have a spare Shoei...is it the lock piece which opens the visor when shut or the pivot piece...if Frosty has trubs in his little box I can lend you my part and order a new one and pop up to you tomorrow...

jrandom
8th March 2008, 21:23
Hang on, I've never heard of a Shoei falling apart like that before. I'd take it straight back to the shop you bought it from under warranty. How long have you had it?

I assume it's never been binned?

Grahameeboy
8th March 2008, 21:25
I have had 2 and has happened a few times...screw works loose...

FROSTY
8th March 2008, 21:26
Hang on, I've never heard of a Shoei falling apart like that before. I'd take it straight back to the shop you bought it from under warranty. How long have you had it?

I assume it's never been binned?
nahh mate the visor screws do work loose

Grahameeboy
8th March 2008, 21:33
nahh mate the visor screws do work loose

Yep, they are only plastic and you cannot tighten too much otherwise you can break them...from memory the length of thread is stumpy, not long

FROSTY
8th March 2008, 21:35
Yep, they are only plastic and you cannot tighten too much otherwise you can break them...from memory the length of thread is stumpy, not long
yup you goddit.-l

Grahameeboy
8th March 2008, 21:37
yup you goddit.-l

and got the spare for Mom if she ever comes back on line?

FROSTY
8th March 2008, 21:54
Can't find the bloody things --might be in my gear bag

FROSTY
8th March 2008, 22:12
sorry mom--i let ya down--I have 2 helmet kits-no screws in either

Mom
9th March 2008, 06:42
Hang on, I've never heard of a Shoei falling apart like that before. I'd take it straight back to the shop you bought it from under warranty. How long have you had it?

I assume it's never been binned?

The helmet is about 2 years old and in as new condition. The screws are pathetic plastic ones that work loose from time to time. I usually check them each time I go out, but obviously not yesterday. The lock device is in my jacket pocket as the whole thing held together until I actually took the helmet off when we stopped. Only thing missing is the screw.


I have had 2 and has happened a few times...screw works loose...

Yep annoying little defect.


sorry mom--i let ya down--I have 2 helmet kits-no screws in either

No worries mate, at least I know you can buy them without buying the whole visor.

Thanks guys, I think maha man is heading to Cycletreads today for a tyre, I will get him to ask there for one. I am staying home to await arrival of youngest daughter back from her Dads place, we need to have a bit of serious one on one time.

jrandom
9th March 2008, 07:21
The helmet is about 2 years old and in as new condition. The screws are pathetic plastic ones that work loose from time to time.

Well, well, I learn something every day.

That's quite crap, really...

Grahameeboy
9th March 2008, 08:14
The helmet is about 2 years old and in as new condition. The screws are pathetic plastic ones that work loose from time to time. I usually check them each time I go out, but obviously not yesterday. The lock device is in my jacket pocket as the whole thing held together until I actually took the helmet off when we stopped. Only thing missing is the screw.



Yep annoying little defect.



No worries mate, at least I know you can buy them without buying the whole visor.

Thanks guys, I think maha man is heading to Cycletreads today for a tyre, I will get him to ask there for one. I am staying home to await arrival of youngest daughter back from her Dads place, we need to have a bit of serious one on one time.

I was going to pop up to give you the screw...:innocent:...how old is your Daughter:innocent:

Mom
9th March 2008, 08:28
That's quite crap, really...

Yes, yes it is!


I was going to pop up to give you a screw...:innocent:...how old is your Daughter:innocent:


Well, well GB you surprise me!

Said child is 16 and is in a power of trouble all round at the moment.

It would be wonderful if you could pop up with a screw for me, I would really appreciate it.

I will even make a coffee for you :yes:

SixPackBack
9th March 2008, 08:31
Yes, yes it is!




Well, well GB you surprise me!

Said child is 16 and is in a power of trouble all round at the moment.

It would be wonderful if you could pop up with a screw for me, I would really appreciate it.

I will even make a coffee for you :yes:

If you have an idea as to the diameter and length of said fastener I will source for you. Have a collection of all commonly available plastic screws.

FROSTY
9th March 2008, 08:36
Mom--its "normal for em to work a bit loose--It has taken 2 years after all--BUT--check the screws other side--Most likely theyre loose too

Mom
9th March 2008, 08:46
Mom--its "normal for em to work a bit loose--It has taken 2 years after all--BUT--check the screws other side--Most likely theyre loose too

I actually have to tighten them every couple of rides out. It really depends on how much opening and closing I have done as that is what works them loose I think.

It was so hot riding down on Friday and spending all that time in shitty city traffic the visor got a real work out. Then down to Hamilton, the trusty visor was up and down like a yoyo.

My fault entirely, I knew it was not right when we stopped in Hamilton the first time and did not check, stopped again and did not check, then stopped for the last time took the helmet off and the lock mech dropped off at my feet.

Lesson learned, I am just pleased that you can get the screws without the whole visor assmbley.

SPB the screw is flat headed and the slot on the top is a cross, I usually use a 5c coin to tighten them up, so the slots are wide. I have never taken the screws out so have no idea how long they are or what the thread size is.

jrandom
9th March 2008, 09:36
Mom, which Shoei model do you wear?

I've had a Raid, a Raid II and now an XR-1000. Each has been subjected to thousands of moderately-violent flippings up and down, without a single change in the feel or performance of the visor locking mechanism.

I must admit; I now harbour a deep and troubling suspicion that you and Graham are closet helmet-abusers.

:crazy:

FROSTY
9th March 2008, 09:45
What I have had happen is the threads on those plastic screws stretch with over tightening.
then they never seem to stay tight

NZsarge
9th March 2008, 09:53
I actually have to tighten them every couple of rides out.

Just a thought and probably not possible due to what im assuming to be a small but more importantly (Read: arkwardly) a short theaded screw you might try a layer or two of thread tape perhaps.


Or, you could just go an buy an Arai, nothing had ever come loose on mine and coz they rock!!:rockon::Punk:
Mind you I do find myself on occasion in at Anza's drooling over the graphics on Shoei's and wondering why cant Arai have a range of graphics like this?

FROSTY
9th March 2008, 09:54
I wondered about a tiny dot of Loctite soft thread locker

Mom
9th March 2008, 11:22
Mom, which Shoei model do you wear?

I've had a Raid, a Raid II and now an XR-1000. Each has been subjected to thousands of moderately-violent flippings up and down, without a single change in the feel or performance of the visor locking mechanism.

I must admit; I now harbour a deep and troubling suspicion that you and Graham are closet helmet-abusers.

:crazy:

You are asking a girl what model it is? :laugh:

It is black and white with an amazing holographic skull on a blue background on it (matches the bike dont you see) :innocent:

I have just been and looked and there is nothing on the helmet to tell me what model it is. Next time we catch up have a look and tell me please.

I am going for the puckeroo threads on the screrws myself. Maha man is down in the smoke getting me some new ones, give them a whirl and see how it goes.

Grahameeboy
9th March 2008, 13:39
Yes, yes it is!




Well, well GB you surprise me!

Said child is 16 and is in a power of trouble all round at the moment.

It would be wonderful if you could pop up with a screw for me, I would really appreciate it.

I will even make a coffee for you :yes:

Was not being serious...may pop up, having a snooze now

Maha
9th March 2008, 13:42
Maha man is down in the smoke getting me some new ones, give them a whirl and see how it goes.

Sorry my love, got a new front tyre instead.
I rang G/Boy to meet me there at 11am but he must have had something else to do....So you're still a screw loose???

Her_C4
9th March 2008, 13:49
Sorry my love, got a new front tyre instead.
I rang G/Boy to meet me there at 11am but he must have had something else to do....So you're still a screw loose???

Bwwwaaaaa ha ha ha - true love :devil2::niceone:

Mom
9th March 2008, 19:27
So you're still a screw loose???

You will keep lovely man :spanking:


Mom, which Shoei model do you wear?

Have consulted a senior member of the KB Brains Trust tonight, and am told it is an XR1000 :D

And I have a new screw, thanks to Grahameboy. Thank you so much for bringing it up here mate, next time it will be a chicken lasagne ;)

FruitLooPs
12th March 2008, 21:52
Yeah my XR1000 screws come loose all the time, tightened them so much the grooves are starting to burr. Although from memory i think they've stayed tight finally!

you can notice when they're loose quick, when the visor ratchet system becomes a little loose and floppy, because it allows the main side brackets that hold the visor to move up and down. A gentle up and down motion without actually allowing it to click past a groove will show you if there is too much play - you can also see the bracket move :yes:

vagrant
15th March 2008, 17:24
A little dab of Ados will stop them falling out in future. It holds well enough that I haven't had to re-tighten them since I glued them. The benefit of using Ados or similar contact rubber cement is that you can still get the thing apart without buggering the screwheads. It doesn't set hard and solid like araldite or locktight.
I also added a little rubber block to the visor ratchet spring to increase the pressure on the visor a little, as the wind would snap it closed when I wanted it open, and pop it open when ever I turned my head to look for traffic on the motorway.

Swoop
17th March 2008, 11:26
So, to summarise the thread...
If Mom wants a screw, Grahameeboy is the man that will do the business?


:scratch: