'Bloody animal' sought after woman thrown off bridge

[Disco Dan]

'Bloody animal' sought after woman thrown off bridge
Monday, 10 March 2008

A "bloody animal" who attacked an Auckland woman cyclist and threw her and her bike off a bridge into a stream is being hunted by police.
The 63-year-old was riding alone across a footbridge through Waiatarua Reserve in suburban Remuera yesterday morning when the man approached a began punching her.
He picked her up and threw her from the bridge 3m into the water below, then dropped her bike on top of her.
The water, which was shallow enough for her to stand in, broke her fall and she was able to clamber out.
The woman suffered a bloody nose, a back injury and scratches to her legs, but police said she was lucky to be alive.
"This is a callous, vicious attack by a bloody animal. . .we're lucky there was no serious injury," Detective Sergeant Jason McIntosh of the Auckland crime squad told the New Zealand Herald.
The attacker, who said nothing to the woman, fled the scene on foot.
He was described as a fat Maori or Pacific Islander in his 30s about 193cm tall.
Police said the random nature and viciousness of the attack had them worried the man could strike again.
They appealed to anyone who may have seen the attack or the man walking through the reserve to contact them.
- NZPA

[Mully]

Now, I heard about this yesterday evening and my first thought was "Oh, that poor old lady, how terrible, what a monster, etc".

But on further thinking about it. The "Old woman/Cyclist/Remuera" angle specifically... $10 says she was biking on a pedestrian path, and had a go at the guy for not getting out of the way quickly enough and he snapped.

Stands to reason:
1, Old women, especially ones from Remmers, think they are above the law, that the rules don't apply to them and that they are a level above anyone else (generalising, but meh)
2, Cyclists don't think laws should apply to them (again, generalising)
3, 1 plus 2, equals Mully jumping to a conclusion.

In which case, good on him.

[Finn]

Fuck off Mully. That's someones mother.

[ManDownUnder]

In which case, good on him.

Are you mad?

[slimjim]

Fuck off Mully. That's someones mother.

:apint: x 2
well said

[Mully]

Fuck off Mully. That's someones mother.

Sorry, if this offended you, but clearly, you've never been verbally abused (or been biked into, which really fucking hurts) by one of these mad old bats who think they have a right to cycle wherever they want because they happen to be 400 years old, and if you don't get out of the way, it's your own fault. The ones with little yappy "dogs" are just as bad.


Are you mad?

Actually, that was a bad choice of words on my part. I meant more "I can see, if this was the case, why it happened". I'm not excusing it, but it's understandable. With that sort of overreaction, he does need locking up. Since there is no mention of a robbery, if it was unprovoked, then the guy is simply a psycho.

[ManDownUnder]

Actually, that was a bad choice of words on my part. I meant more "I can see, if this was the case, why it happened". I'm not excusing it, but it's understandable. With that sort of overreaction, he does need locking up. Since there is no mention of a robbery, if it was unprovoked, then the guy is simply a psycho.

OK - clearly not mad... Sounds like the guy's a f'n headjob no matter what provoked it (short of her pulling a gun)

[forkoil]

An anti cyclist attack, wont find too much empathy in this forum?

[Mully]

OK - clearly not mad... Sounds like the guy's a f'n headjob no matter what provoked it (short of her pulling a gun)

I agree. I was trying to say that, because it hurts so much when they run into your shins, he may have got angry and snapped. Entirely inappropriately, of course, but I'm sure you've experienced the "Fuck, that hurts so much, I have to blame someone or something and hit them/it if they are around" moments.

Although, punching wasn't mentioned last night. Only that he had pushed her off a bridge and thrown/dropped her bike on her.

[Badjelly]

Although, punching wasn't mentioned last night. Only that he had pushed her off a bridge and thrown/dropped her bike on her.
Are you really saying it would have been understandable if he'd pushed her off a bridge and thrown/dropped her bike on her, but not if he punched her?

Quit while you're not too far behind, mate.

[Finn]

Only that he had pushed her off a bridge and thrown/dropped her bike on her.

Only? You're a prick. The more you try to back peddle, the bigger that hole gets.

[Deano]

The average person is a moron - anyone need further proof ?

[Mully]

Are you really saying it would have been understandable if he'd pushed her off a bridge and thrown/dropped her bike on her, but not if he punched her?


Hmm, I am digging, aren't I.

No, what I'm saying (well, trying badly to say) is that if he was injured by her (physically ridden into, which hurts a lot) and he'd only pushed her and her bike (in one movement), that is understandable. Not excusable. It's that half a second of anger when you get hurt. It's that instinct to lash out quickly (probably rooted in fight-or-flight response) that I'm talking about. I know most people can control the physical lashing out, but for whatever reason, he couldn't.

It's like slipping over on a wet surface. If it hurts, you blame the surface ("Oww, stupid fucking path" type thing. You don't (at the time) blame the fact that you were running with no grip, which comes later ("That was dumb of me, running on that surface")

[Hitcher]

Is it time yet to push *Button B* and save some time by inserting the requisite 133 posts that generally accompany Kiwi Biker discussions of this type? e.g. outrage, revenge, capital punishment, personal responsibility, police bashing, etc.

[Badjelly]

Hmm, I am digging, aren't I?
Yep.

Look, we've all experienced road/footpath/supermarket aisle rage. (OK, maybe I'm the only one who's experienced the last one.) But for a young guy to attack & injure a 63-year old woman isn't on, and I think we can all agree on that. And stop digging!

[Pwalo]

Might pay to wait and see what transpires over the next few days. It's quite surprising how these sorts of stories can play out.

[Big Dave]

Finn - 'Grandmother.'

I still help old dears cross Remuera Rd and carry their groceries to the car for them if they are struggling. Because it makes me feel good. You should try more of that vibe Mully.

[Mully]

I still help old dears cross Remuera Rd and carry their groceries to the car for them if they are struggling. Because it makes me feel good. You should try more of that vibe Mully.

I do that BD, quite regularly (well, not the crossing the road thing, I rarely see that, but the carrying things all the time). Give up my seat on the train, the whole nine yards.

I'm not talking about the sweet little old grandmas (and grandads for that matter), I was talking about about the militant old bats who expect you to jump out of their way quickly or get yelled at. Or the ones with the tiny little dogs which they let sh*t on your front lawn and glare at you when you ask them to clean it up. Or if you are out minding your own business and their little rat tangles it's leash around your legs, it's your fault for standing there. Different sub-group all together.

[Finn]

Different sub-group all together.

Mully, you could quite possibly be the most stupidest person on the internet.

[westie]

Disco are you trying the "if I go public then the police will never suspect me" thing????

[MIXONE]

Mully, you could quite possibly be the most stupidest person on the internet.

Or the one with the biggest spade.

[scumdog]

Sorry, if this offended you, but clearly, you've never been verbally abused (or been biked into, which really fucking hurts) by one of these mad old bats who think they have a right to cycle wherever they want because they happen to be 400 years old, and if you don't get out of the way, it's your own fault. The ones with little yappy "dogs" are just as bad.

Ooooh, verbally abused eh?? oooo.. I bet that must hurt almost as badly as being thrown off a bridge does eh?? Pffft!

[mstriumph]

......No, what I'm saying (well, trying badly to say) is that if he was injured by her (physically ridden into, which hurts a lot) and he'd only pushed her and her bike (in one movement), that is understandable. Not excusable. It's that half a second of anger when you get hurt. It's that instinct to lash out quickly (probably rooted in fight-or-flight response) that I'm talking about. I know most people can control the physical lashing out, but for whatever reason, he couldn't.

.....................

oh stop apologising - yes, it's true that this incident seems over the top but, equally yes, cyclists can be both arrogant and antagonistic and it stands to reason that, as with all bullies, sooner or later they'll push it with the wrong person...

i was crossing an intersection in perth, with the lights and a great many other pedestrians, a few years ago when one of these lycra-clad, skinny-buttocked, self-righteous hoons came barrelling through, against the lights, scattering young and old alike and telling people to 'get out of the bloody way' when they complained ....... i shoved my umberella thru his spokes .... :confused:

was it 'right'? of course not --- but was it effective? yes ........... also quite enjoyable in an evil sort of way [for which i humbly apologise to this forum for admitting]

[The Pastor]

Are you really saying it would have been understandable if he'd pushed her off a bridge and thrown/dropped her bike on her, but not if he punched her?

Quit while you're not too far behind, mate.
UNDERSTANBLE DOES NOT = ACCEPTABLE.

[MIXONE]

Jeez mstriumph it's people like you who will get umbrellas banned cause they will be considered weapons.
Well done.:lol:

[forkoil]

Yeah, because of course motorcyclists have no sympathy, hate all people who pedal, and hate everyone who doesn't ride a motorbike. Of course, we also hate our children who ride pushbikes, and I personally hate my mum, who is the same age and rides to the supermarket to get milk.

FUCKING WAKE UP, Fuckoil, and join a part of society who actually give a shit about people who aren't exactly like them.
Hey dipshit, before your mouth gets any wider, take a look at this thread to see where motorcyclists in general and me in particular sit on the issue of cyclists
cyclists (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=45005)

[Badjelly]

Hey dipshit, before your mouth gets any wider, take a look at this thread to see where motorcyclists in general and me in particular sit on the issue of cyclists
cyclists (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=45005)
Well, you in particular, anyway.

[forkoil]

Well, you in particular, anyway.
ummmm que?

[Skyryder]

Yep throwing anyone off a bridge is a 'bit' over the top.

Skyryder

[Badjelly]

ummmm que?

I don't think you can judge what "motorcyclists in general" think of cyclists (in general) based on one forum thread.

Me, I don't have an opinion on cyclists in general. Nor on motorcyclists in general, car drivers in general, 63-year old women in general, fat Polynesians in general, or anyone in general.

[Usarka]

I don't think you can judge what "motorcyclists in general" think of cyclists (in general) based on one forum thread.

Me, I don't have an opinion on cyclists in general. Nor on motorcyclists in general, car drivers in general, 63-year old women in general, fat Polynesians in general, or anyone in general.

What about generals, in general?

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:vNqtiPgeMzDbfM:http://www.centcom.mil/sites/uscentcom2/HiddenGallery/General%2520John%2520P.%2520Abizaid_hires.jpg

[Nagash]

I really feel for the Maori guy, just imagine what he must of been going through to be lead to throwing that old women off the bridge. She was probably making racist looks at him aswell!

It's a shame when our local people can't walk around without being provoked into throwing old ladies off bridges.

[mstriumph]

...... it does make me wonder how this thread [and the media] would have read if it'd been a 63 year old woman pedestrian that threw a Maori cyclist [who was menacing her on a footpath in an arrogant and dangerous fashion] off a bridge? :rolleyes:

[MIXONE]

...... it does make me wonder how this thread [and the media] would have read if it'd been a 63 year old woman pedestrian that threw a Maori cyclist [who was menacing her on a footpath in an arrogant and dangerous fashion] off a bridge? :rolleyes:

Tangata whenua bro.:innocent:

[Badjelly]

What about generals, in general?
Generally they like to get their own way.

[forkoil]

I don't think you can judge what "motorcyclists in general" think of cyclists (in general) based on one forum thread.

Me, I don't have an opinion on cyclists in general. Nor on motorcyclists in general, car drivers in general, 63-year old women in general, fat Polynesians in general, or anyone in general.
Did you bother looking at the thread BJ (bet you love being called that)

[Disco Dan]

Disco are you trying the "if I go public then the police will never suspect me" thing????

ROFL ! !

Reminds me of a joke though...


Proudly showing off his newly-leased downtown apartment to a couple of friends late one night, a drunk Samoan led the way to his bedroom where there was a big brass gong hanging on the wall .

'What's that big brass gong for ?' one of the friend's asked .

'Issss nod a gong . Issss a talking Maori clock' he drunkenly replied .

'A talking Maori clock - seriously ?'
'Yup . ' 'Hmmm (hic) . '
'How's it work ?' the second friend asked, squinting at it .
'Just watch' he said .

He picked up a hammer, gave the gong an 'ear-shattering bash' and stepped back . His three mates stood looking at one another for a moment in astounded silence .

Suddenly, a Maori voice from the other side of the wall screamed,
'For f*#k's sake, you stupid coconut . It's ten past three in the f*#king morning !!!'

[Big Dave]

What about generals, in general?



Generally?

I train an hour a day in that reserve currently.
Not spotted him.
I will be vigilant.

[Badjelly]

Did you bother looking at the thread BJ (bet you love being called that)
Yes (this one and the cyclists one) but if you think I've misunderstood what you're saying then I'll happily concede the point and let it rest.

[Disco Dan]

...begin the unnecessarily slow moving dipping mechanism...

[Badjelly]

...... it does make me wonder how this thread [and the media] would have read if it'd been a 63 year old woman pedestrian that threw a Maori cyclist [who was menacing her on a footpath in an arrogant and dangerous fashion] off a bridge? :rolleyes:

FFS, where did the idea that throwee (the cyclist) was menacing the thrower come from, other than Mully's fevered imagination?

[Skyryder]

What about generals, in general?

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:vNqtiPgeMzDbfM:http://www.centcom.mil/sites/uscentcom2/HiddenGallery/General%2520John%2520P.%2520Abizaid_hires.jpg


Nothing special about generals they are just general.

Skyryder

[mstriumph]

FFS, where did the idea that throwee (the cyclist) was menacing the thrower come from, other than Mully's fevered imagination? ...... nnooooooooo - sorry - was generalising about perceptions and the media .... should have been more explicite :shutup:

[westie]

ROFL ! !

Reminds me of a joke though...

Classic! Thats definately worth green rep but I cannot give any for some reason.

Edit. Ah ha! I wasn't logged in. More:apint:

[Big Dave]

I talked to the two Detectives down there this afternoon - asked if there was anything I could do to help.

'Keep a lookout and call us if you do.'

[Revit]

Does Fork oil shorten to F.O.

[Ocean1]

I talked to the two Detectives down there this afternoon - asked if there was anything I could do to help.

'Keep a lookout and call us if you do.'

Check under the bridge dude?

Trolls everywhere nowadays...

[forkoil]

Does Fork oil shorten to F.O.
And do you also go by the name strokeit, or flogit?

[Disco Dan]

Getting the handbags at ten paces.... :devil2:

[gijoe1313]

Burn them! Burn them all!

[oldrider]

Mrs O is 64 and rides a bike!

Anyone know the premium and surcharge for insuring a 64 year old bike rider?

Hey BD try and find out that guy's hourly rate and if he is willing to travel.

The sides of the Otematata river bridge are not too high either.

Hmmmm I feel a plan coming on....nope....:Oops:....just remembered sex and breakfast!

:argh: Priorities :eek5: John.

[forkoil]

Mrs O is 64 and rides a bike!

Anyone know the premium and surcharge for insuring a 64 year old bike rider?

Hey BD try and find out that guy's hourly rate and if he is willing to travel.

The sides of the Otematata river bridge are not too high either.

Hmmmm I feel a plan coming on....nope....:Oops:....just remembered sex and breakfast!

:argh: Priorities :eek5: John.
I take it the foreskin would still fit after all these years? :banana:

[oldrider]

I take it the foreskin would still fit after all these years? :banana:

I don't know where it is, I wasn't consulted, they ruined my life, at first I thought my behaviour was just a case of being badly potty trained.

My therapist has been very supportive and has lead me to discover that all my problems have stemmed from being separated from my foreskin at such a young and tender age! :rolleyes:

I am so grateful to my therapist, she helps me understand my loss! :spanking:

Thank you for your concern. :confused: Cheers John.

[Hinny]

Generally?

I train an hour a day in that reserve currently.
Not spotted him.
I will be vigilant.

I believe this was not an isolated incident.
A jogger had the audacity to say Good Morning to a man, fitting the description, sitting on a park bench. He got beaten up for his pleasantry.

I guess Mully could see a reason for that behaviour as well.
"Bloody jogger upsetting my zen moment at the confluence of raging bum pain, from sitting on it too long, and the stupefying mantra of the psychotic little man inside my head."

"Good Morning" Yap yap yap

Or maybe he was a gay jogger who fancied the big boy and suggested a morning bj..............and all he heard was yada yada "job".

[forkoil]

I don't know where it is, I wasn't consulted, they ruined my life, at first I thought my behaviour was just a case of being badly potty trained.

My therapist has been very supportive and has lead me to discover that all my problems have stemmed from being separated from my foreskin at such a young and tender age! :rolleyes:

I am so grateful to my therapist, she helps me understand my loss! :spanking:

Thank you for your concern. :confused: Cheers John.
haha well said.
That therapist sounds interesting, no chance she might want a weekend in the big smoke is there? Apart from me, I know a few who could use her services. :love:

Theres a whole generation who lost our foreskins to the great foreskin god so rampant in those days. I think you may be on to something. These weanees today just dont know how tough we were, getting it lopped off, dont even think I cried. :headbang:

But I've decided I dont want mine back anyway. Cant imagine what it would be like with a foreskin. Geez when you have a piss, do droplets stay in there and leak all over your undies for the next hour....yuck. And I reckon the women like a clean exposed knob more too. Of course we all have reduced sensitivity, but even that runs in our favour in the sack, no premature ejaculation, and longer BJ's. The list goes on and on....

[oldrider]

Meanwhile back to the thread topic. :spanking:

It seems like the "animal" has a real problem and is a menace to society!

The sooner he gets himself tossed into some secure digs the better life will be up there.

Pretty serious behaviour and he only picks on people who are relatively defenseless against him, cowardly wanker.

Must have been horrific experience for his victims! :shit: John.

[Big Dave]

Pretty serious behaviour and he only picks on people who are relatively defenseless against him, cowardly wanker.

There has also been a noticeable increase in large, fit men training or walking on the reserve this week.

[oldrider]

There has also been a noticeable increase in large, fit men training or walking on the reserve this week.

They should disguise themselves as helpless old ladies and drive a zimmer and hope he shows up! "SURPRISE" :stoogie: John.

[scumdog]

There has also been a noticeable increase in large, fit men training or walking on the reserve this week.

Ya seen one or two have you????:lol::bleh::dodge:

[The Pastor]

turns out the cylist was riding on a footpath.

[Big Dave]

Ya seen one or two have you????:lol::bleh::dodge:


Honestly - yes - but currently working quite hard on becoming one.
Still in good enough shape to deal with an obese prick though.:kick:

[Big Dave]

turns out the cylist was riding on a footpath.

It's a shared path

[The Pastor]

It's a shared path
the path on tv looked to narrow to be a shared path, looked like the stanard 1-1.4m footpath.

[Str8 Jacket]

the path on tv looked to narrow to be a shared path, looked like the stanard 1-1.4m footpath.

Man, I have to sit next people on the tarin who are wider than that! :blink:

[The Pastor]

Man, I have to sit next people on the tarin who are wider than that! :blink:
exactly. cyclists should be banned. crazy idiots :D

[Str8 Jacket]

exactly. cyclists should be banned. crazy idiots :D

OR on the flipside, we should be encouraging it to stop people from getting so big!

[Big Dave]

the path on tv looked to narrow to be a shared path, looked like the stanard 1-1.4m footpath.

If you don't like the way I ride get off the fuckin footpath.

[The Pastor]

If you don't like the way I ride get off the fuckin footpath.
if you don't like me walking on a bridge dont ride next/into to me?

[Big Dave]

I'm walking today anyway - warped the back wheel of the tredley jumping on the bit of forest path. That's only a foot wide.

It ain't rocket science hey - if there are dogs and kiddies and old ladies on the path - you ride on the grass around them.

And if it's the old dear who I think it was - she only travels at walking pace anyway.

[oldrider]

Lets face it, that old Pakeha bitch had no right being in the country, let alone riding her fucking bike on "our" bloody bridge anyway! :shifty: John (pt)

[Patrick]

It ain't rocket science hey - if there are dogs and kiddies and old ladies on the path - you ride on the grass around them.



But the grass around the bridge this nutter was on was a little damp...

[Hinny]

Lets face it, that old Pakeha bitch had no right being in the country, let alone riding her fucking bike on "our" bloody bridge anyway! :shifty: John (pt)

As I said before this was not an isolated incident.
Other attacks would be hard to excuse even with the bigoted mindset some members have exhibited.

[Finn]

Lets face it, that old Pakeha bitch had no right being in the country, let alone riding her fucking bike on "our" bloody bridge anyway! :shifty: John (pt)

Exactly John. The fat maori or pacific islander is the real victim here. Let's not forget this is NZ!!!

[Finn]

Other attacks would be hard to excuse even with the bigoted mindset some members have exhibited.

There's a few Maori's on KB but don't worry, we've got them under control.

[Badjelly]

There's a few Maori's on KB but don't worry, we've got them under control.

Quick quiz for the over 40s: which politician said, "We love our Maoris", and when?

[Hinny]

Quick quiz for the over 40s: which politician said, "We love our Maoris", and when?

My guess is Jenny Shipley and as for when; sometime after saying "it's not only Maoris that climb in your windows at night."