Hyosung GT250R - "race bike"

[R6_kid]

Wasn't aware they were so hardcore... maybe I should buy one to start my race career on?

"Ready to race, ready to ride. The GT250R is a full size race tuned bike with looks to match. Fully equipped with rollerized V-Twin high output DOHC 8 valve engine, race tuned suspension including inverted forks and gas charged shock absorber, huge brakes, stunning aerodynamics, complimented by digital instruments and adjustable ride position. Whether you're starting a race career, riding for fun or just getting around, the GT250R is ready to take you where ever you want to go.
Dual lens headlamp and aerodynamic fairing are stylish and functional. A tinted windscreen is available as an optional extra. Race position handlebars and adjustable footrest positions give the rider flexibility to tailor the ride position to rider preference."

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-144896318.htm

[CookMySock]

aww cmon, don't do this. Lots and lotsa learners get started on these bikes, and they love them dearly, and rightfully so.

DB

[speedpro]

The forks may be "upside down" but they have no discernable damping. Which is OK as they perfectly match the rear shock.

Having high performance camshafts might be good as well, as the stock ones snap occassionally.

The only reason they get away with selling these piles of crap is that the typical buyer is a young noob and knows no better. Buying decisions are based purely on cosmetics and on how they may possibly be perceived by their equally knowledgeless mates.

[kiwifruit]

The forks may be "upside down" but they have no discernable damping. Which is OK as they perfectly match the rear shock.

Having high performance camshafts might be good as well, as the stock ones snap occassionally.

The only reason they get away with selling these piles of crap is that the typical buyer is a young noob and knows no better. Buying decisions are based purely on cosmetics and on how they may possibly be perceived by their equally knowledgeless mates.

yeah, but they look cool eh :cool:

[Str8 Jacket]

yeah, but they look cool eh :cool:

I'd hit it ;)

[CookMySock]

The only reason they get away with selling these piles of crap is that the typical buyer is a young noob and knows no better. Buying decisions are based purely on cosmetics and on how they may possibly be perceived by their equally knowledgeless mates.Bullshit. Another reason they buy them is because they like how they look and feel.

Stop it. Mods ?

DB

[Str8 Jacket]

Stop it. Mods ?

DB

Were you a Hyosung in a previous life or something?

[CookMySock]

Were you a Hyosung in a previous life or something?no, my learner wife has one, and shez gunna be horrified to see YET ANOTHER person dissing it. :(

People, think before posting.

DB

[R6_kid]

Marketing something as it is not is false advertising?

There is nothing 'race' about a hyosung, except perhaps it's burgled asthetics. I've seen a hyosung with over 150g of weights on the rear wheel just to get it to 'balance'... doesn't seem very race to me!

[Str8 Jacket]

no, my learner wife has one, and shez gunna be horrified to see YET ANOTHER person dissing it. :(

People, think before posting.

DB

AND..... If she's tough enough to ride then she shouldnt care. I rode a GN for awhile, people mock them all the time but you dont see sales going down!

The point of the thread is about a 250 Hyosung RACE bike. You gotta see the funny side in that!

[R6_kid]

no, my learner wife has one, and shez gunna be horrified to see YET ANOTHER person dissing it. :(

People, think before posting.

DB

if you're dress sense was a bit 'gay' and i was nice enough to point it out to you, wouldnt rather that i actually told you so you knew, or would you prefer that everyone just went about their business thinking you were actually gay?

[CookMySock]

There is nothing 'race' about a hyosung, except perhaps it's burgled asthetics.You don't think so ?? Watch the look on a L-Platers face after they have just rode their new GT250R home and polished it, and I DARE you to say that to their face.

THINK before you speak.

DB

[CookMySock]

I detect a troll. I'm out.

DB

[R6_kid]

You don't think so ?? Watch the look on a L-Platers face after they have just rode their new GT250R home and polished it, and I DARE you to say that to their face.

THINK before you speak.

DB

i wouldnt call them gay, but if they honestly thought it was a 'race' bike, i'd sit them down with a nice cold beer and congradulate them on their new acquisition, but point out the subtle differences between their GT250R and a 'race' bike. I've ridden with hyobags many a time, and they dont handle too badly, but they are no race bike.

[White trash]

Labeling them as a piece of shite is a bit harsh I feel. There's tonnes of them out there and I've not heard alot of horror stories. They're a budget built bike for a budget inspired market, nothing wrong with that.

However, marketing them as a race bike for the road is probably a more than a little misleading.

[speedpro]

However, marketing them as a race bike for the road is probably a more than a little misleading.

You're in politics, eh?

[FROSTY]

ya know this sounds really familiar--very much like the shit thrown at another bike well known for getting people up and riding 2 wheels--the mighty GNU

[speedpro]

Has the word "cosmetic" stopped meaning appearance or looks?

As for "feel", only a noob would ride one without being seriously concerned about the total lack of control from the suspension. At "noob" pace it wouldn't normally matter I suppose. As for jumping on the brakes, I suspect you would hear the forks bottoming out from over a Km away.

[kiwifruit]

marketing them as a race bike for the road is probably a more than a little misleading.
jBLVN-89T14

[Hellraiser]

i wouldnt call them gay,


Of course not, it's not a HONDA

[Kornholio]

no, my learner wife has one, and shez gunna be horrified to see YET ANOTHER person dissing it. :(

DB

Hey, at least it aint a Honda :jerry:

[Gubb]

Has the word "cosmetic" stopped meaning appearance or looks?

As for "feel", only a noob would ride one without being seriously concerned about the total lack of control from the suspension. At "noob" pace it wouldn't normally matter I suppose. As for jumping on the brakes, I suspect you would hear the forks bottoming out from over a Km away.

My suspension has been fantastic, never had any problems with it. Never had any issues bottoming it out either. Maybe you need to put your biases aside, before writing off the most popular selling bike in the country.

They are popular for a reason, and the looks are only a part of that.

[Weaver]

Has the word "cosmetic" stopped meaning appearance or looks?

As for "feel", only a noob would ride one without being seriously concerned about the total lack of control from the suspension. At "noob" pace it wouldn't normally matter I suppose. As for jumping on the brakes, I suspect you would hear the forks bottoming out from over a Km away.

Is that so skidmark?
Your talking out your arse. No they aren't a race bike. However most of the people shit talking about them, are people bitter because they had to learn on some 20 year old piece of shit.

As for Dangerous Bastard, Harden the fuck up. If you take comments like that to heart, its a wonder that you hadn't topped yourself as a youth.

[vifferman]

They are popular for a reason, and the looks are only a part of that.
I'd imagine the popularity has more to do with cost, although they're not a bad looking bike.
Race bike? Hmmmmm.....
I suppose you could have a race series if they were all the same model.

[Gubb]

I'd imagine the popularity has more to do with cost, although they're not a bad looking bike.
Race bike? Hmmmmm.....
I suppose you could have a race series if they were all the same model.

The size was the major drawcard for me.

[FROSTY]

I rode a couple and I'm sorry but the forks and brakes as stock are terrible.
clearly they can be improved HEAPS relatively easily

[Firefight]

Yeah, I struggle with the wording of the ad,:lol:

but I know a few people with them, and they seem happy with the bike, a good entry level/newbie bike, one family I know got two they have no complaints.

Its putting bums on seats/getting people into bikes and that can't be bad.

so I would not diss them, but a race bike I think not.

F/F

[Brett]

Bahahahahahhahahaha that ad is demented. (No offence DMNTD/Chris:Oops:)

Race bike for the road? I am 100% sure that a hyobag *could*piss on an aprilia RS250...If the Aprilia rider was a noob and the hyobag rider experienced.

It always cracks me up how defencive hyobag riders get about their bikes, like they feel the need to prove themselves and their bikes. If I got all wound up everyone took the piss out of GSXR's and their riders, I would be in a straight jacket (no offence Str8 Jacket).

The hyobag-a-crap is fine as an entry level beginner bike, but no one in their right mind would use one in a 250cc class race. The brakes are horrible, would fade within no time, the suspension is utter crap, so would need to be custom built stuff, and they are lacking in power somewhat horribly.

For 7k, I would put my moolah elsewhere. THAT IS MY OPINION. DON'T LIKE IT, BUY A HYOBAG. I DON"T CARE ANYWAY.

[Brett]

Is that so skidmark?
Your talking out your arse. No they aren't a race bike. However most of the people shit talking about them, are people bitter because they had to learn on some 20 year old piece of shit.

As for Dangerous Bastard, Harden the fuck up. If you take comments like that to heart, its a wonder that you hadn't topped yourself as a youth.

LMAO off at the last comment.

My 250 was a 1994 ZXR250c. Yes it was 10 years old. But I would still rather have (now 14 year old) bike with 50,000kms on it than a new hyosung. I have ridden a few, and they just are not that fantastic. Yes, they feel more like a *big* bike, but when it comes down to it, they don't have the up and go of the CBR or the ZXR and they sure as hell don;t have the handling that they do...or the level of finish to the components.

[sAsLEX]

rollerized V-Twin

WTF is this meant to mean?

[Brett]

WTF is this meant to mean?

Technology was developed from a roller.

[sAsLEX]

Technology was developed from a roller.

I was thinking the engine was borrowed from a steam roller?

[Brett]

I was thinking the engine was borrowed from a steam roller?

The hyosung is probably about as fast:woohoo:

[CookMySock]

As for Dangerous Bastard, Harden the fuck up. If you take comments like that to heart, its a wonder that you hadn't topped yourself as a youth.Yep, it was close. Last year was a tough time also. Feeling better these days.

DB

[325rocket]

The hyosung is probably about as fast:woohoo:

..........

[bigbad]

They are popular for a reason, and the looks are only a part of that.



I am smelling beer..sniff..sniff..........Maybe a Tui :laugh:

[speedpro]

I can definitely hear tops coming off as well.

The basic facts are that they don't handle, don't go, and don't stop! The only reasonable grounds for appealing are size and cosmetics(how it looks). Actually that describes most of another way-more-expensive brands products as well. They supposedly aren't doing too bad sales wise either.

Since it was brought up I may as well comment on the 10+year old 250/4s. They do have the power(when they actually run) and seem to handle OK, especially considering the age, but the actual cost of ownership, taking into account highly likely workshop costs, must be right up there I would think, and god forbid if something actually breaks - just toss it in the bin, or turn it into a bucket racer.

All comments are based on up close first-hand observations.

[RantyDave]

Hey, ahh, this thread's getting dangerously close to just blatant trolling. Please cut it out. Debate, by all means.

[jcupit69]

Ok personally not a fan of the hyosungs, not when 125 2strokes give as much power and better handelling, but im nt gona go on the bike and its pit falls, insted......

the sell it as a 'race bike' do they race them??? is there a class where these race??? calling an rs125 or mito or rgv a race bike, cool cus they were/are raced in professional bike racing.

Does any one know if these hyo's are raced in class some where??? If not i say false advertising :spanking:

[Deano]

But is the build quality any worse than a gixxer ? I mean, do the frames crack ?

[mark247]

OK it's not a race bread weapon, but it is still a "sport" bike, and what determines it as that? It must have some "racing" qualities. Like the looks.

[disenfranchised]

Race bike? Hmmmmm.....
I suppose you could have a race series if they were all the same model.


the sell it as a 'race bike' do they race them??? is there a class where these race??? calling an rs125 or mito or rgv a race bike, cool cus they were/are raced in professional bike racing.

Right...this sounds like some kind of challenge....who's keen for starting up a n00b-Twins race meet.

Open to all 2cyl 4stroke bikes.
Hyo, GPX, New Ninja 250, VTR, GSX, Spada etc...

[R6_kid]

WTF is this meant to mean?

i think they mean it has wheels?

To all those getting up in arms defending their hyobags as 'not shit' etc... i never said they were shit. I was just pointing out that they certainly aint no 'race' bike as they have been described.

Untie the not in your panties and chill out a bit!

[R6_kid]

OK it's not a race bread weapon, but it is still a "sport" bike, and what determines it as that? It must have some "racing" qualities. Like the looks.

So if i put race fairings on my GN250 does the in turn make it saleable as a race bred machine?

[nodrog]

they sell "Hyosung racing team" tee shirts, no shit.

[vifferman]

So if i put race fairings on my GN250 does the in turn make it saleable as a race bred machine?
No, I'm a frayed knot.
You'd need to buy some race-bred go fast parts as well.

Like racing decals.

[R6_kid]

Sorry, I forgot, without the stickers i'll lose all horsepower points!

[mark247]

So if i put race fairings on my GN250 does the in turn make it saleable as a race bred machine?

Did i say that? Nope. What im saying is that it's obviously not a cruiser ( like a GN250 is ya muppet lol. ) It's got the sport looks and stuff, it's not a race bike but it's still sporty i reckon, even tho it is slow. My opinion! Don't cry!

[Pumba]

they sell "Hyosung racing team" tee shirts, no shit.

I think that may relate to there 650's, I dont know, just a thought

[mark247]

Watch this, this has to be the most random marketing ever. Doing a stoppie on a hyosung and saving the little turtles!!!! Now that's marketing!

http://www.hyosungtx.com/v.wmv

[nodrog]

I think that may relate to there 650's, I dont know, just a thought

eitherway, a company that has a sense of humour and can take the piss out of themselves is all good :2thumbsup

[Dodger]

Sorry, I forgot, without the stickers i'll lose all horsepower points!

Hmm, lets see, my 50cc scooter has stickers of flaming soccer balls, and red neons underneath, I must be up to at least 100HP now :)

Also because it's from the Hutt it has the compulsory bullet hole stickers and parts held on with cable ties. :Punk:

[R6_kid]

Did i say that? Nope. What im saying is that it's obviously not a cruiser ( like a GN250 is ya muppet lol. ) It's got the sport looks and stuff, it's not a race bike but it's still sporty i reckon, even tho it is slow. My opinion! Don't cry!

huge difference between sports and race my friend!

[mark247]

huge difference between sports and race my friend!

Well the only sport ya do on a bike is race isnt it? I dont think you can play rugby on a motorcycle. All im saying is "racing" must of had some influence on the bike.

[NOMIS]

Marketing something as it is not is false advertising?

There is nothing 'race' about a hyosung, except perhaps it's burgled asthetics. I've seen a hyosung with over 150g of weights on the rear wheel just to get it to 'balance'... doesn't seem very race to me!

Hehehe aint nothing race about them my hornet out corners out accelerates these things ive ridden them and there a sack of shit compared to my hornet the only thing i did like was the fairings on the m.way and the way it looked. the brakes where better than my bike tho. hyosung = hyoshit>???

[Soul.Trader]

So if i put race fairings on my GN250 does the in turn make it saleable as a race bred machine?

Yeah right...a GN doesn't have USD's mate :shutup:

[speedpro]

Yeah right...a GN doesn't have USD's mate :shutup:

GN forks are better than the USDs on the hoyobag. At least they have some resistance to fork movement.

[Brett]

..........

Bahahaha..touched a nerve? Nice cock by the way.

[speedpro]

Just seen a very nice looking bike parked outside Repco. Red and Black, USDs, mag wheels, a very nice looking bike. Turned out it was a new(?) Hyosung. I hadn't seen one that looked like that. One very smart looking bike.

[HTFU]

Right...this sounds like some kind of challenge....who's keen for starting up a n00b-Twins race meet.

Open to all 2cyl 4stroke bikes.
Hyo, GPX, New Ninja 250, VTR, GSX, Spada etc...

That would be fun. Slow, but fun.

[Damantis]

Labeling them as a piece of shite is a bit harsh I feel. There's tonnes of them out there and I've not heard alot of horror stories. They're a budget built bike for a budget inspired market, nothing wrong with that.

However, marketing them as a race bike for the road is probably a more than a little misleading.

I agree. I am a new rider and the hyo 250 was first bike I test rode. Also rode a kawa gpx 250 a honda hornet and a couple of cbr250rrs and found the hyo a boring ride compared to the others. Was impressed by the styling but would hardly agree with "ready to race" I suspect as with most things from korea, it would pay not to expect to much of it as it will probably break:no:
And the digital speedo??? It just looks tacky :no:

[Brett]

Right...this sounds like some kind of challenge....who's keen for starting up a n00b-Twins race meet.

Open to all 2cyl 4stroke bikes.
Hyo, GPX, New Ninja 250, VTR, GSX, Spada etc...

That is actually a really goos idea. I would be keen. WOuld be somewhat cheap too.

[zeocen]

I want to see this noob-twins race!
I'm rooting for the GPX, even though it's not near the top league, I'ma root for it anyway!

[HornetBoy]

I want to see this noob-twins race!
I'm rooting for the GPX, even though it's not near the top league, I'ma root for it anyway!

My bet is on the mighty vtr250 !! :clap:

[tommorth]

that 250 twins class sounds like fun heaps of old vt gpx lying around maybe it could be done along side 1502t class

[Sparky Bills]

Is that so skidmark?
Your talking out your arse. No they aren't a race bike. However most of the people shit talking about them, are people bitter because they had to learn on some 20 year old piece of shit.



You only know what you have used...
And if the only thing you have used is a Hyosuky then you have no idea what a good bike feels like...:shutup:

And why did you call him Skidmark?

You must realise that your talking to alot of people who learnt to ride a few years back (to say the least!), so they wernt 20years old when they were on them :shit:

[mowgli]

Mate of mine bought an '06 naked GT250 a month or so back. When I went round to check it out I was surprised to see it had only one set of brakes on the front. My GT250R has two disc brakes on the front and pulls up well when I need it to. I suspect a lot of the shit talk about hyo brakes comes from the naked version and not from the R.

But then what would I know? My last bike was an XL200 about 20 years ago and it had almost no brakes at all.

[carver]

Wasn't aware they were so hardcore... maybe I should buy one to start my race career on?

"Ready to race, ready to ride. The GT250R is a full size race tuned bike with looks to match. Fully equipped with rollerized V-Twin high output DOHC 8 valve engine, race tuned suspension including inverted forks and gas charged shock absorber, huge brakes, stunning aerodynamics, complimented by digital instruments and adjustable ride position. Whether you're starting a race career, riding for fun or just getting around, the GT250R is ready to take you where ever you want to go.
Dual lens headlamp and aerodynamic fairing are stylish and functional. A tinted windscreen is available as an optional extra. Race position handlebars and adjustable footrest positions give the rider flexibility to tailor the ride position to rider preference."

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-144896318.htm

you got to beat swantiger on his one first ow....

hyosungs are cheap shit......quite possibly rubbish, especially late model ones.
im sure my one was a "1st in the country ex demo" deal

[Nade]

Comparing a 20 year old bike to one of the hyobags speaks for itself dosen't it? If a 20 year old bike can even barley compare then surley it goes towards saying either the 20 year old bike was exceptionally well designed and built...or the hyobag is a cheaply built item like wharehouse merchandise...throw away items.....which imo is wot it is...a great beginers bike...but not something youd hang onto after you'd learned the basic's and ridden something else. :jerry:

[FkNAmerican]

I've ridden the Hyosung GT650R and it was an absolute piece of shit. I would NEVER buy one.....not in a million years. You're better off walking mate.

I remmember looking inside the gas tank of one that wasnt even a year old and there was rust all inside the tank. Not only that but the "digital gage" is so bad its bordering on the criminal. I'd expect greater quality coming out of Burma then what I found on that bike. The instruments are difficult to see in bright sunlight, the bike puts out an ungoldy amount of heat that practically roasts your right foot, the gearbox is about as smooth as an acne ridden teenagers face, the brakes feel like they've been made out of eraser tips, and even the "hyosung" labels start to come off before the bikes leave the showroom.

I mean...everywhere you look you see cost cutting and cheapness. Sorry but I refuse to ride anything I think might come unglued on me in a corner or under heavy braking. Seriously, if I owned a Hyosung I'd always have this nagging feeling something major was about to fall off.....and it would destroy the riding experience.

There just really isnt a point to buying a Hyosung. They arnt cheap enought to warrant the shit build quality, shit resale value, difficulty in getting parts, crap customer service, and the fact that you're gonna have to explain to everyone why in the hell your riding some Korean piece of junk when you could have had a second hand SV650 or CBR for equal money.

Its just not worth it. If you have the cash for a GT650R then surely you could save another 6 months and front up for the real deal........just be patient.

[carver]

I've ridden the Hyosung GT650R and it was an absolute piece of shit. I would NEVER buy one.....not in a million years. You're better off walking mate.

I remmember looking inside the gas tank of one that wasnt even a year old and there was rust all inside the tank. Not only that but the "digital gage" is so bad its bordering on the criminal. I'd expect greater quality coming out of Burma then what I found on that bike. The instruments are difficult to see in bright sunlight, the bike puts out an ungoldy amount of heat that practically roasts your right foot, etc etc etc.

I mean...everywhere you look you see cost cutting and cheapness. Sorry but I refuse to ride anything I think might come unglued on me in a corner or under heavy braking. Seriously, if I owned a Hyosung I'd always have this nagging feeling something major was about to fall off.....and it would destroy the riding experience.

There just really isnt a point to buying a Hyosung. They arnt cheap enought to warrant the shit build quality, shit resale value, difficulty in getting parts, crap customer service, and the fact that you're gonna have to explain to everyone why in the hell your riding some Korean piece of junk when you could have had a second hand SV650 or CBR for equal money.

Its just not worth it. If you have the cash for a GT650R then surely you could save another 6 months and front up for the real deal........just be patient.

or just get a ER6n/ninja 650

[EroSamnin]

LOL everyone bagging hyobags. I'll join in. I crashed it a couple of times, once cos the rear shock is sloppy as hell so the stand bracket digs into the road around tight corners and once cos there was this pot hole and I rode directly into it and went off the road and fell off like a retard.

But yea it's still shit loads of fun to ride even though it's as gutless as all hell. I thrash the utter crap out of it (have to to get anywhere) and have done for 33K so far. It's cheap, reliable and works perfectly for "learning" on. I don't regret buying it at all... yet.

[NSR-Dan]

My suspension has been fantastic, never had any problems with it. Never had any issues bottoming it out either. Maybe you need to put your biases aside, before writing off the most popular selling bike in the country.

They are popular for a reason, and the looks are only a part of that.

Maybe you shoud ride some Race inspired 250 bikes (CBR's, ZXR's ect) and then you will we see why people are being biased.

And for 7k you can buy my NSR, now thats a real race bike for the road and its 15 years old.

[NSR-Dan]

Also found som interesting info about hyosung.

In korea they were a joint venture with suzuki, and were known as Suzuki Hyosung (prounounced Huu-sung) up until 2002 when they parted and became independant. also the korean company daishin is in partnership with honda and use all honda componants.

This is all according to my Korean Friend.

[Gubb]

Maybe you shoud ride some Race inspired 250 bikes (CBR's, ZXR's ect) and then you will we see why people are being biased.

I rode 15 bikes when I was looking to buy, only 1 suited my needs/wants.

[Jekkyl]

I like my Hyo, so I don't care if other people think they are shit. :whocares:

[kiwifruit]

I like my Hyo, so I don't care if other people think they are shit. :whocares:

+ 1

[Brett]

I rode 15 bikes when I was looking to buy, only 1 suited my needs/wants.

So why did you get the hysoung then:shutup:

Just kidding!



Maybe.

[Brett]

I like my Hyo, so I don't care if other people think they are shit. :whocares:

Exactly the point. YOU have to ride the biarch. Many suzuki haters out there, and they rip into GIXXERS and GIXXER owners. I dont care, I love my bike. Say what they want.

[breakaway]

Watch this, this has to be the most random marketing ever. Doing a stoppie on a hyosung and saving the little turtles!!!! Now that's marketing!

http://www.hyosungtx.com/v.wmv

Is it just me or does that sound like a 4cyl with a hoary sounding can? There is no way the stock one sounds like that.

[Deano]

Exactly the point. YOU have to ride the biarch. Many suzuki haters out there, and they rip into GIXXERS and GIXXER owners. I dont care, I love my bike. Say what they want.

What planet are you on ? This is Gixxer country, and all Honda riders are gay....:mellow:

[FkNAmerican]

The Hyosungs arnt even that much cheaper then the competition so whats the point?? I could understand if they were thousands less but they just arnt.

In the United States Hyosung are putting thier bikes in all these no-name dealers that sell crap. No other dealer wants them. So when you buy one you almost automatically have to deal with shady people and shit service from the start.

Sorry but no amount of savings is worth that. Consider the quality you're getting, ponder the fact that for only a few grand more you could have the best out there and it just adds salt to the wound.

[325rocket]

Many suzuki haters out there, and they rip into GIXXERS and GIXXER owners. I dont care, I love my bike.


but dont they snap?<_<

[breakaway]

but dont they snap?<_<

Isn't that only when you ride like an idiot and crash it in to stuff?

[rphenix]

I agree. I am a new rider and the hyo 250 was first bike I test rode. Also rode a kawa gpx 250 a honda hornet and a couple of cbr250rrs and found the hyo a boring ride compared to the others. Was impressed by the styling but would hardly agree with "ready to race" I suspect as with most things from korea, it would pay not to expect to much of it as it will probably break:no:
And the digital speedo??? It just looks tacky :no:

I found the GPX a boring ride :) The Hornet and CBRRS are far better bikes but then try and get a new one of those for $5800. I agree the Hyo's arent
ready to race no bike on Shinko's could be unless your trying motorcycle drifting.

[zeocen]

I found the GPX a boring ride :)

............ :O!

[Blue4]

So how does the new Ninja 250R compare then? Around the same price!

[Ryan432]

what I want to no is WHY WHY WHY do people even spend money on 250's? Fine if you are racing two strokes or you have a road legal dirt bike but other than that it is just a waste of money. Hyosung is not cheaper than its competition its WAAYYY more expensive because realisticly its only compitition is the GN250. You can say that there are 250s out there that have a higher top speed than some bikes of larger displacement, but top speed has about 2/5ths of sweet fvck all to do with rideability and enjoyment on the road. THERE IS NO REPLCEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT. most people buy a hyosung as their learner bike(which 99.999% of people sell in 18mnths when they get their full). WHY? why not get a GN? People defend their hoyosung purchases by saying that they handle better and they are faster than bikes like the GN, which is only marginally true if at all. My point is if you have to ride sh*t why not ride shit that costs THOUSANDS less and put the money towards a real bike later on. the only difference between the GN and the Hyosung is the looks (they especially made it physicly larger so it would look like a proper bike, which only slows it down more, making it even less "race" like). now to my point which brings this whole rant back onto topic, they market the hyosung as a "race" bike because it is marketed towards people with what I like to call "small dick syndrome" these are the people that couldn't possibly be seen riding a GN250 because that cruiser sh*t is just not cool. The marketers know that this particular affliction is sooo unbeleivably strong that people affected by it would be willing to spends rediculus sums of money to make up for their unbeleivably small penises by riding what they think is a "cool" race bike. When in reality people see them and go "why the hell would they buy that peice of junk". They don't need to worry that the hyosung is way below the par of an actual race bike because real racers wouldn't bother looking at them and the people who do buy them don't actually know any better.

Just to clarify when I say hyosung here I am refering to the GT250 not the 650 as I here the build quality is a fair bit higher on this model, though I cannot be sure...

Not to diss on people who have them because of their physical size, this is 100% understandable if you are a big bastard, but you probably could have got an exemption to ride a bigger cc bike.

[xwhatsit]

Why spend money on 250s? Well, for most learners, they have to spend at least 18 months on their 250. Why not enjoy that period of time on a bike that goes around corners in a `sporty' manner?

I've got a 250, I will be keeping it for as long as I can, even after I buy a big bike. I've ridden larger bikes and they offer a different experience -- not necessarily better, just different. So I'll be keeping my 250 for the sake of diverse and enjoyable riding -- and a GN250 isn't quite my thing, although they're not bad bikes at all. Similar if I'd spent up large on a CBR250RR, those things are unique and interesting bikes quite apart from the whole 250cc thing. Why not enjoy yourself for 18 months? And the resale is always good, so it's mostly just a temporary extra outlay.

[Gubb]

blah blah blah. Piss. Wank. Moan.
So i've got a tiny pecker huh?

Who the fuck are you to say what people should and shouldn't spend their money on. For me the GN was a ludicrous option, as i'm 6'4". It's not something I could spend a large portion of time on. I can afford to buy new, I fucking earned it. If I had a 600cc sports bike through a dispensation, I probably wouldn't be here right now.

As for spending money on 250's, why the hell not? I'm not going to throw it away/trade it up. I will get a bigger bike, but i'm also keeping the Hyo. Find me a 1000cc bike that can do 500Km to a $25 tank. It doesn't matter if I have the bike for 1 month, or 10 years, I have to be comfortable riding it, and if it's mine, I want to make some small changes to get even more enjoyment out of it. Why is that wrong?

Maybe you should stop spending money on internet connections, as it's proving harmful to your judgement.

On closer inspection, of 4 total posts you have made, 3 of them are bagging Hyosung. Got nothiing better to do?

[Ryan432]

Im not saying that people shouldn't buy them, and im not dissing people who buy them and appreciate them for what they are, I am dissing people that buy them and then walk around like they are valentino rossi thinking they are riding a purebred racebike and outwardly dissing on other perfectly capable 250's because they dont have fairings etc and are therefore nowhere near as good as their bike. Unfortunatly all the people I know who own hyosungs are dickheads, which does kind of give me a skewed perspective, sadly it is these people that ruin it for the other hyosung owners. What I was on about was clueless idiots not the hyosung bike themselves, if they didn't market them as a race bike you would probably still own one right? because you have valid needs for one whereas there are lots of people out there that would not have one because their sole reason for buying one was because they thought it was a full on race bike

[imdying]

Some stuffAn RGV250 is more fun to ride than an SV1000 mate ;)

[speedpro]

My 100cc 2-stroke is more fun to ride than a SV1000

[imdying]

If you mean 'fun like getting taken in the arse', then sure...

[speedpro]

I've worked in a bike shop. I've posted a few disparaging comments about Hyo 250s. However even I have to admit to liking how the new black and red ones look and that is the main reason young-impressionable-just-getting-started-noobs buy them - because of how they look. Good on Hyosung for producing a bike that appeals to a currently growing market segment.

[speedpro]

If you mean 'fun like getting taken in the arse', then sure...

Not MY kind of fun but if that's what SV1000 owners are into . . . .

[jrandom]

:angry2:

Gosh, I think someone touched a bit of a nerve there.

:laugh:

[imdying]

Not MY kind of fun but if that's what SV1000 owners are into . . . .Nup, just what I've heard about bucket racers...

[avgas]

Brand new, good looking bike for $6K. Sit down and shut the fuck up you bunch of whiners.
250's aren't that high a horse to climb down from. Hell you all need to have Motoracer kick your arses on a RG150 so you understand its the rider not the bike.

[avgas]

My 100cc 2-stroke is more fun to ride than a SV1000
you missed a "0"

[Gubb]

Im not saying that people shouldn't buy them, and im not dissing people who buy them and appreciate them for what they are, I am dissing people that buy them and then walk around like they are valentino rossi thinking they are riding a purebred racebike and outwardly dissing on other perfectly capable 250's because they dont have fairings etc and are therefore nowhere near as good as their bike. Unfortunatly all the people I know who own hyosungs are dickheads, which does kind of give me a skewed perspective, sadly it is these people that ruin it for the other hyosung owners. What I was on about was clueless idiots not the hyosung bike themselves, if they didn't market them as a race bike you would probably still own one right? because you have valid needs for one whereas there are lots of people out there that would not have one because their sole reason for buying one was because they thought it was a full on race bike

Fairplay, thanks for clearing that up. I'd never heard of Hyosung when I went into the shop to test ride bikes, but after riding 16 different bikes, that was the one that ticked the most boxes.


Gosh, I think someone touched a bit of a nerve there.

:laugh:

Yeah, I do get pissed off when people consistently barrage me with insults because of my vehicular transport.
Tiny cock?
Dickhead?
Maybe your comfortable being known as these things, but it irks me.

[FilthyLuka]

Yeah, I do get pissed off when people consistently barrage me with insults because of my vehicular transport.
Tiny cock?
Dickhead?
Maybe your comfortable being known as these things, but it irks me.

I hear all hyosung owners are nazis...

[breakaway]

I almost bought a 2005 Hyosung GT250R with about 30,000 K on it. Then I asked myself how many Hyosungs I'd seen around with 70,000+ ks on them. This could be attributed to the fact that hyosung only recently entered the market, but I'll be fucked if I'm going to risk my money.

Ended up with a 89 CBR with 40,000 K on the clock.

[sosman]

But is the build quality any worse than a gixxer ? I mean, do the frames crack ?
If someone could do a couple of 180kh wheelies on the hyosung for us we will see.......muhaha

[EJT]

I almost bought a 2005 Hyosung GT250R with about 30,000 K on it. Then I asked myself how many Hyosungs I'd seen around with 70,000+ ks on them. This could be attributed to the fact that hyosung only recently entered the market, but I'll be fucked if I'm going to risk my money.

Ended up with a 89 CBR with 40,000 K on the clock.

Can't say I've seen many CBR 250s with 70k on the clock. At the end of the day if you are happy and learn to ride properly on whatever bike takes your fancy then good for you.

Most people I know aren't going to spend 7k on a bike without doing some reading - and every review I have read of the Hyosung has been positive. And prior to the new Kwaka 250 coming out, most 250s looked like they belonged in the 80s - which is pretty much correct.

[Ryan432]

Lets be real here pretty much ALL motorbikes are fun to ride :2thumbsup. so the one you buy is based on your personal preferences and what you like the look/sound/feel of. Its just people that diss on others bikes and fail to realise that all bikes have downsides (even theirs) that get to me. Sorry for veering off topic but I feel I had to clear up the confusion about where I was coming from on the whole matter. Peace

[rwh]

Right...this sounds like some kind of challenge....who's keen for starting up a n00b-Twins race meet.

Open to all 2cyl 4stroke bikes.
Hyo, GPX, New Ninja 250, VTR, GSX, Spada etc...

I've thought that for a while - but I was going to call it 'Slo Twins'

Richard
(... who wonders about having another go at fixing his VT250F ...)