View Full Version : 140kph V-Sign to Speed Camera = No Ban
YellowDog
15th March 2008, 07:32
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/7296889.stm
A motorcyclist who stuck two fingers up at a camera as he raced by at up to three times the speed limit has not been banned from driving.
Patrick Sheehan-Dinler, 29, from Hertfordshire, was captured 65 times by the same 30mph speed camera as he reached speeds of up to 88mph.
All he had to do was admit he had been a naughty boy and say sorry!
James Deuce
15th March 2008, 07:41
Good. Someone in the UK judiciary has a sense of humour.
mowgli
15th March 2008, 07:42
An interesting precedent. I wonder what the sensible sentencing trust would make of that :pinch:
toebug
15th March 2008, 07:47
Awesome! I like doing that!
How did they get him with no front plate? I guess he did it that many times on his way to work they probably just waited for him?:Police:
YellowDog
15th March 2008, 07:47
It just seemed quite amazing that he escaped without any kind of ban.
Unless he gets caught doing it again, he will have completely got away with it.
If the prosecution was to appeal and this was put in front of another judge, I suspect the outcome would have not been the same.
Mikkel
15th March 2008, 13:25
Awesome! I like doing that!
How did they get him with no front plate? I guess he did it that many times on his way to work they probably just waited for him?:Police:
The speed cameras in Britain takes a photo of the back of the vehicle I believe... Some of them do at least.
MaxB
15th March 2008, 22:53
I love the judge's comment:
Judge Barbara Mensah said: "Offences of this nature divert valuable police time, where officers could be investigating serious offenders and offences."
So 88 speed camera offences are not considered serious. In this country a big ticket speeder was given a harsher penalty than a pair of theives caught robbing a farm armed with a tomahawk and a baseball bat. On the same day in the same court.
90s
18th March 2008, 08:25
I love the judge's comment:
Judge Barbara Mensah said: "Offences of this nature divert valuable police time, where officers could be investigating serious offenders and offences."
So 88 speed camera offences are not considered serious. In this country a big ticket speeder was given a harsher penalty than a pair of theives caught robbing a farm armed with a tomahawk and a baseball bat. On the same day in the same court.
Well, if you search here or on the net you will find link to a similiar situation last year in the UK, where although Mikkel is right and no front numberplate was captured in the photos, the police tracked down the bike by identifying it was a BMW, then getting all the records of BMW sales + custom work to identify the specific bike. When they found the guy, they busted him hard because he was willingfully mocking the system by giving the fingers to the camera.
As I have posted before with detail in the UK different police forces interpret their job differently - some have been fined by the regulator again and again for pointless use of speed cameras and entrapment and others take the sensible line that on "their" motorway 85pmh is fine and under that they will leave you alone and concentrate on policing dangerous rather than 'fast' driving.
The moral - you pays your money and takes your chance
YellowDog
18th March 2008, 08:37
The speed cameras in Britain takes a photo of the back of the vehicle I believe... Some of them do at least.
That's right however by law they are all marked in a florescent Yellow, so you can slow down in time.
Apparently hiding them was deemed to be an infringement of personal human rights or something.
Ewan Oozarmy
18th March 2008, 10:17
That's right however by law they are all marked in a florescent Yellow, so you can slow down in time.
Apparently hiding them was deemed to be an infringement of personal human rights or something.
You're right. When the government over there were accused of using speed cameras to generate revenue they responded by saying that speed cameras were only positioned in "accident blackspots" and were subsequently instructed, that if this were the case, to paint them yellow in order to "warn" drivers of the impending hazard.
MisterD
18th March 2008, 10:33
The speed cameras in Britain takes a photo of the back of the vehicle I believe... Some of them do at least.
Most of them do. But you'd have to be blind not to see them - as already mentioned - they're bright yellow, and there are white markings along the road to verify the speed (GATSO takes two spaced photos, so speed can calculated from distance travelled)
sidecar bob
18th March 2008, 12:08
I love his closing line, "I was a very angry boy in my life, But ive changed now"
scorpious
21st March 2008, 15:44
i've always wanted to wave my have quickely in front of a speed camera about 100 times just to piss the officers off lol.:wari:
homer
21st March 2008, 16:36
bet you ll find here they will set up a second camera in the front of the van
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