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qldzxr250a
17th March 2008, 22:05
Well after seeing one of my friends crash his busa' yesterday and him do alot of damage....especially to his spine ive decided i prob wont ride again without a back/spine protector.
any ideas of what i should be looking for??
Bohn seem to do some great items... their race series look the biz and seem to offer great protection levels.
so feel free to throw me some ideas - or personal experiences with said armour.
cheers.
FROSTY
17th March 2008, 22:11
call quasi -his stuffs pretty good
Mikkel
17th March 2008, 22:23
I use a Dainese back protector that I bought for skiing at Val Thorens back in 2003.
It was designed for motorcycling though.
I can not comment on how well it works since I have not, so far - touch wood, had a serious crash - neither on the bike nor the skis.
I wouldn't ride without it though...
GaZBur
17th March 2008, 22:47
Try it on with your riding gear done up before you buy. I have a BIG one for under my leathers that has saved me once at motards during a huge highside straight down on my back. Judging by muscle damage around the outside edges of the back protector it saved my spine big time. However - it is so damned uncomfortable that I only wear it in the track because it is a real pain. If you dont get a comfortable one you will just leave it behind. Better even to have slightly less protection that you will actually want to wear than a supersize one you will want to leave behind.
SlashWylde
18th March 2008, 07:18
I wear a QuasiMoto brand back protector. Cost about NZ$80. Really comfortable and I wear it all the time under my cordura or my leather jacket.
Definately buy one. Given that almost all of us will crash eventually, it's an added piece of insurance against spinal injury during the inevitable.
Nasty
18th March 2008, 07:31
I have a teknics back protector .. it does a good job.
Skyryder
18th March 2008, 07:58
I have a teknics back protector .. it does a good job.
So have I. I never ride without one. I'm actually of the opinion that proof of a back protector should allow for some reduction in rego costs. An idea for BRONZ to pursue??
Skyryder
HungusMaximist
18th March 2008, 08:35
First thing you need to consider is how much you're willing to spend?
All those fancy brands like Dianese and Spidi will set you back at least $200 bucks.
In terms of the build, as far as I know there are two types, the ones that have a plastic shell and ther ones that are more like high density hard foam stuff.
Both do the jobs just as well but I reckon the ones without the plastic shell are bit more comfortable and some shops market them as 'race style' back protectors as they are more comfortable.
One important tip, go for the FULL BACK that goes from all the way from the neck to the tail bon ) ones as opposed to the pussy ones where's it's designed only for the lower back.
A $90 dollar plastic shelled one RJAYS will work pretty well if you're on a budget and it comes with the kindey protector/belt (and most do these days).
Just go try a whole heap... !
90s
18th March 2008, 08:49
any ideas of what i should be looking for??
Yeah, use search.
You will find recently discussion on the different standards for back protectors such as CE1 & 2 levels as well as discussion of the rigid vs. shell types.
Its a good investment. Mine's a Clover rigid.
Just to set you staight though, back protectors protect the back from injury, ie. grazing, heavy bruising and penetration by objects. They do not do such a good job of directly protecting from spinal injury and this is not in fact their key design purpose.
Radar
18th March 2008, 09:48
I wear a QuasiMoto brand back protector. Cost about NZ$80. Really comfortable and I wear it all the time under my cordura or my leather jacket.
Is this the one you have? It is $129, not $80.
http://www.quasimoto.co.nz/products/?category=9
Zoolander
18th March 2008, 10:22
Yeah, use search.
You will find recently discussion on the different standards for back protectors such as CE1 & 2 levels as well as discussion of the rigid vs. shell types.
Its a good investment. Mine's a Clover rigid.
Just to set you staight though, back protectors protect the back from injury, ie. grazing, heavy bruising and penetration by objects. They do not do such a good job of directly protecting from spinal injury and this is not in fact their key design purpose.
Yea, just to back up what 90s said, they are designed to prevent soft tissue injuries by spreading the force of an impact. Most spinal injuries are caused by the body twisting, stretching, or compressing in a way it was not designed to during a crash, rather than a direct impact to the back. I still wouldn't ride without one but it is definately helpful to realise that you are still vunerable to injury even with the best back protector.
Superbike Magazine recently did a piece on back protectors which was very interesting and worth reading.
Quasievil
18th March 2008, 10:26
Is this the one you have? It is $129, not $80.
http://www.quasimoto.co.nz/products/?category=9
Hiya, we changed styles recently.
but dont forget its 10% off for a Kiwibiker
They have had great reviews so far and they dont cost a whole heap, very cheap insurance, Honestly weather our one or another, JUST GET ONE
Radar
18th March 2008, 10:54
Thanks Quasi. Guess I'll be ordering soon...
Just to set you staight though, back protectors protect the back from injury, ie. grazing, heavy bruising and penetration by objects. They do not do such a good job of directly protecting from spinal injury and this is not in fact their key design purpose.
Point taken, but I would think that any injury to the spine would be less while wearing a back protector, and hopefully paralysis would be prevented in some accidents.
madandy
18th March 2008, 11:59
The amount of experienced people who have crashed & swear by their back protectors having saved them a lot of pain and more severe injury is evidence enough for me.
Resistance to hyper-extension, the bending of your back the wrong way, is one feature I was advised to look for.
SlashWylde
18th March 2008, 12:14
Is this the one you have? It is $129, not $80.
http://www.quasimoto.co.nz/products/?category=9
Nope, that's not the one I bought. That must be a newer model.
bucket boy
18th March 2008, 12:34
Hiya, we changed styles recently.
but dont forget its 10% off for a Kiwibiker
They have had great reviews so far and they dont cost a whole heap, very cheap insurance, Honestly weather our one or another, JUST GET ONE
geez after buying 2 spine protectors and full leathers 6 weeks ago
10% Off i should of asked
Meekey_Mouse
18th March 2008, 20:51
I bought a back protector off Quasi early last year, since then have binned 3 times on the track, one of which i went over the rubble strip on my back. Hurt my elbow a bit but it would of hurt a heck of a lot more if I had no back protector.
Now I feel like I've left a part of me at home if I don't have it on :baby::lol:
Haven't tried any other brands but I'm more then pleased with my one :D
Mike748
18th March 2008, 21:07
Got a SPIDI back protector, having recently tested it out :pinch: it makes sliding along the road almost comfortable, just don't hit anything!
Don't leave home without one.:niceone:
vagrant
19th March 2008, 00:15
Just make sure its reasonably comfortable to wear with your normal riding gear. If its not comfortable, you won't wear it, and then it's no good to you.
Initially it may feel a little strange but you get used to it/wear it in.
I feel naked if I go out with out mine on.
I tried a couple of different designs before I found one I liked. Mine is full length, with over lapping plastic segments and a wide elastic cummerbund/kidney belt and no shoulder straps, so I can put it on and take it off without having to take my jacket off.
Try before you buy, and remember, its comfort first and price second.
qldzxr250a
19th March 2008, 01:45
yer i realised about the whole spinal not being realated, but several of his injuries were caused by rag-dolling down a hill and hyper extension of his torso....figured the back protector would be at least some forn of brace.
end of the day if u hit ur head with a fair amount of force you're more than likely recieve neck/spinal injuries, but with something to brace your back with should help reduce the injuries when u kart-wheel down the senic mountain-side we all love...
and yes full back is what im looking 4. bohn once i like starts across shoulder blades and goes to tailbone....
looking a quasi's now....
hmmm shipping to aus?
RantyDave
19th March 2008, 04:30
Does anyone extend back/spine protectors round to ribs too? I'm sitting here with mondo painful ribs considering some new (additional) protective gear...
Dave
Radar
19th March 2008, 05:30
Does anyone extend back/spine protectors round to ribs too? I'm sitting here with mondo painful ribs considering some new (additional) protective gear...
Dave
How about a MX chest protector?
90s
19th March 2008, 11:46
I don't wear it much but I've an oxford kidney belt that along with the back protector pretty much has you covered. MX route a little rigid methinks for road work - but hey, would look awesome.
Radar
23rd March 2008, 20:26
A personal story about a back protector here:
http://www.tacsafety.com.au/jsp/content/NavigationController.do?areaID=1&tierID=1&navID=293795D07F000001002098FF21718FAE&navLink=null&pageID=1175
"As I'm laying on the operating theatre table, he ...holds it above my face where I can see, and says boldly, "THIS SAVED YOUR LIFE!!!!""
CookMySock
24th March 2008, 05:23
Given that almost all of us will crash eventually [....]for real ? No fucking way am I gunna come off my bike at any speed worth mentioning.. I just can't get my head past someone else wiping my arse for the rest of my life. Think about it. :shutup:
DB
Quasievil
24th March 2008, 08:06
Does anyone extend back/spine protectors round to ribs too? I'm sitting here with mondo painful ribs considering some new (additional) protective gear...
Dave
Standby, we will have a back protector soon that will have a seperate chest protector attachment.
Maybe about one month away.
RantyDave
24th March 2008, 09:21
Standby, we will have a back protector soon that will have a seperate chest protector attachment.
Yeah? A week later my ribs are starting to feel better and my back is still giving me shit. In short: sold, dude. Let me know when they're in stock.
Aside: BTW, my crash at the cliffhanger was in your leathers. Scuffed, but not fucked up - add one to your running tally.
Dave
Quasievil
24th March 2008, 10:00
Yeah? A week later my ribs are starting to feel better and my back is still giving me shit. In short: sold, dude. Let me know when they're in stock.
Aside: BTW, my crash at the cliffhanger was in your leathers. Scuffed, but not fucked up - add one to your running tally.
Dave
Okay cheers
your Number 66 of satisfied crashers !
scracha
24th March 2008, 17:46
Dunno if they're available here but the Knox stowaway is a goodie for general day to day stuff as it rolls into a wee bag when you're off the bike. As I'm racing I should really get a solid type from Quasi.
qldzxr250a
24th March 2008, 23:32
ill definatley be interested in your new bit 'o' kit qusai, im sure you'll keep us all posted.
BIGBOSSMAN
25th March 2008, 10:10
Do spineless riders such as Raj and Skidmark need a back protector? I'm interested in opinions...:2thumbsup
nevets
26th March 2008, 20:45
I got a Dainese full back protector and 2pc suit from www.bimoto.be - super happy with both. At the time buying from them worked out at about 1/2 the local price, unfortunately things have changed a bit since.
The back protector is big but weighs virtually nothing and is fairly comfortable to wear - don't really know its there.
HungusMaximist
26th March 2008, 21:03
Do spineless riders such as Raj and Skidmark need a back protector? I'm interested in opinions...:2thumbsup
Haha, for your information, Raj actually wears a spine protector.
I wouldn't know about Skidmark though... :laugh:
howdamnhard
26th March 2008, 21:25
Let me know when you get them.I would be keen for one.:2thumbsup
Standby, we will have a back protector soon that will have a seperate chest protector attachment.
Maybe about one month away.
Radar
30th March 2008, 10:15
I bought one of these - see photo below, except mine is larger with 7 sections. It fits from just below my neck down to the tailbone.
Its made by Prexport, an Italian company that been in the motorcycle gear business for a few decades.
Cost $95 and has the European quality stamp, "CE" certified. Comfortable also.
Got it from a MC shop in Chch, posted to me for a few bucks.
PM me for details if you want one or you may find them on Trademe.
speights_bud
30th March 2008, 11:12
I always wear my back protectore, its relativly slim and has the hard armour, brand is 'armour tech'.
Im sure i read a thread on here about a kevlar supermotard type jacket that was basically a whol lot of body armour attached to a kevlar jacket, all the armour was on the exterior and it looked pretty damn cool. cant find it though.
It looked a bit like this Spidi Gear, but it was way cooler and didnt require a jacket to be worn over the top for abrasion protection or anything
http://www.spidi.com/images/products/z126_b.jpg
Hitcher
30th March 2008, 14:08
I am always amused by riders who wear spine protectors AND a backpack. Do the two cancel each other out?
Bonez
30th March 2008, 14:22
Don't some jackets have back protectors built-in?
Radar
30th March 2008, 15:33
Don't some jackets have back protectors built-in?
Yes, to a limited degree most jackets will have some sort of armour to protect the back and some jackets have a facility to insert a back protector. If you look at photos of separate back protectors you will see that they are better / larger / fit closer and more snug.
Swoop
30th March 2008, 16:24
Don't some jackets have back protectors built-in?
Some jackets have a bit of "padding". This can move around quite a lot and is not what you want happening if you take a tumble.
Bonez
30th March 2008, 17:09
Some jackets have a bit of "padding". This can move around quite a lot and is not what you want happening if you take a tumble.
Just looking at my dryrider it has this padding plus an insert (which basicly covers 80% of my back- around3/4inch thick all up) with staps on the jacket to pull it tight. I also generally wear a heavy duty over the shoulder kidney belt as well, always have. I guess that's reasonable amount of protection without being uncomfortable.
Don't want to find out though ;).
Bonez
30th March 2008, 17:20
I am always amused by riders who wear spine protectors AND a backpack. Do the two cancel each other out?Not if there is an inflatable blow up doll in the pack.
Hitcher
31st March 2008, 07:45
Not if there is an inflatable blow up doll in the pack.
As opposed to a non-inflatable blow-up doll?
Bonez
31st March 2008, 15:59
As opposed to a non-inflatable blow-up doll?
Yes, the explosive ones.
westie
31st March 2008, 18:07
Back protectors are awesome. I feel naked without one on when riding.
I used mine yesterday. Front washed out and hit the deck. Sliding along over bumps on my back and couldn't feel a thing!!:rockon:
Of course feel bit sore today.
Biggles08
31st March 2008, 18:52
Back protectors are awesome. I feel naked without one on when riding.
I used mine yesterday. Front washed out and hit the deck. Sliding along over bumps on my back and couldn't feel a thing!!:rockon:
Of course feel bit sore today.
did you have a pillion on too....or were you the pillion? :lol:
westie
31st March 2008, 18:57
did you have a pillion on too....or were you the pillion? :lol:
Oh harrow!
Yea its way better to strap your pillion to your back. That way if you do fall off onto your back you only feel two bumps against your back. alternatively you could be in for a nasty surprise if its a guy:crazy:
centercore
1st April 2008, 22:36
I always wear my back protectore, its relativly slim and has the hard armour, brand is 'armour tech'.
Im sure i read a thread on here about a kevlar supermotard type jacket that was basically a whol lot of body armour attached to a kevlar jacket, all the armour was on the exterior and it looked pretty damn cool. cant find it though.
It looked a bit like this Spidi Gear, but it was way cooler and didnt require a jacket to be worn over the top for abrasion protection or anything
http://www.spidi.com/images/products/z126_b.jpg
Might be the EVS ballistic but I dont think that has kevlar. It kind of looks cool but a bit sci-fi.
speights_bud
2nd April 2008, 20:47
Might be the EVS ballistic but I dont think that has kevlar. It kind of looks cool but a bit sci-fi.
Yea, it looks pretty similar to that, i remember looking at it thinking fark that'd look cool for racing a black/grey (sci-fi style motard)Star gate styles hehe
Brett
2nd April 2008, 22:23
Standby, we will have a back protector soon that will have a seperate chest protector attachment.
Maybe about one month away.
Dude, I would be interested to see this new product!
McDuck
3rd April 2008, 07:39
me to........
Hitcher
3rd April 2008, 10:20
me to........
I suspect you mean "me too..."
McDuck
3rd April 2008, 10:25
I suspect you mean "me too..."
no, as i will be going 'to' his shop to try it on etc when it arrives.
Hitcher
3rd April 2008, 10:28
no, as i will be going 'to' his shop to try it on etc when it arrives.
In which case you should have used the pidgin "Me go..."
McDuck
3rd April 2008, 10:30
In which case you should have used the pidgin "Me go..."
But that dosn't make sense.
Hitcher
3rd April 2008, 10:39
But that dosn't make sense.
Neither, oh illiterate one, does "Me to..."
McDuck
3rd April 2008, 10:43
Neither, oh illiterate one, does "Me to..."
makes more sense than 'me go' (this is fun isn't it)
No fucking way am I gunna come off my bike at any speed worth mentioning.. I just can't get my head past someone else wiping my arse for the rest of my life. Think about it. :shutup:
DB
Oh dunno might be better than doin it yerself? who'd be doin the wiping?:doctor:
HenryDorsetCase
3rd April 2008, 12:07
Now I feel like I've left a part of me at home if I don't have it on :baby::lol:
:D
concur! 10 chars
NinjaNanna
3rd April 2008, 19:56
I suspect you mean "me too..."
ok educate me - I thought "too" was used to describe something ie too hot, too cold, too right (pt)
Therefore I'd have thought he was right in saying "me to"
Hitcher
3rd April 2008, 20:00
ok educate me - I thought "too" was used to describe something ie too hot, too cold, too right (pt)
Therefore I'd have thought he was right in saying "me to"
Sigh...
"Too" means, amongst other things, "also". As in "I'm an illiterate twat too."
Biggles08
3rd April 2008, 20:47
Sigh...
"Too" means, amongst other things, "also". As in "I'm an illiterate twat too."
Or "I've got way to much time on my hands so i may add to this pointless debate too!":wari:
SVboy
4th April 2008, 13:20
Bringing this thread back on track-I just bought an Ultimate Stuff protector off Turdme. Wasnt the cheapest-but fits very well and offers good protection. Interesting that size is Large/XL, and I am neither of those options.....moral-try them on first.
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