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Clivoris
19th March 2008, 07:59
Deano did warn me that you can learn an awful lot about yourself in 3 minutes on the Hill Climb.
My girl and I arrived as planned on the saturday and despite the nerves I managed to get set up and ready to ride. The two warm up rides were deceptively reassuring despite the gravel on the early section, and I was nervous but keen. My plan was to have a go at getting a baseline time and then look at taking thin slices off it. What I soon discovered was that without a good knowledge of the course, I wasn't going to be achieving much apart from skidmarks, on corner entries and other places. At the top I couldn't even remember the first 5 corners. So, after the first 2 runs the plan changed to focussing on memorising the layout and to hell with the times. Adrenalin seems to help with the memory of unhelpful things, not important information like " this corner opens up nicely". A chat to some of the more experienced riders like Drew, Deano, Sully and others helped me think about the ideal ways to approach some of the sections. I also found talking with Koba and Limbimtimwim about how their riding was going helped me remember parts of the course too. With these two being on 400's as well, my goal was to get in front of them on the score sheet. Alas, this was not to be. What happened to being respectful to old c#@*s?
Best speed on day 1 was probably a 3.05. Hardly going to get me a factory ride.
The rumble was cool and I got a decent enough sleep. Waking with a clear head and determined to improve my times. I managed to be in the first half dozen or so on the first run and just stuck to the basics. Trust my memory, don't scare myself on the gravel patches, less braking, more throttle and so on. I got to the top to be told that I had just done a 2.45. "That was too easy" "Shit, what was I doing yesterday?". I was suspicious about this and my suspicions were confirmed when my next run was a 2.56. There was no way there was 10 second difference between runs. The first reported time was obviously wrong. Bugger.
The rest of my day was all about trying to improve my course knowledge and chipping away at my times. Culminating in a best time of 2.54. I'm pleased and disappointed with this. Glad I gave it a lunge. Congratulations to the Koba and Limbimtimwim.
What I learned?

This type of racing has different challenges to track racing.
I have well honed survival instincts that get in the way of hurling myself around blind corners at max speed and decent lean angle.
I will be back next year to learn some more.
This event is special.

Thanks to the organisors of the Cliffhanger and the rally. Many thanks to the volunteers who work so hard so us riders can get our thrills.

Str8 Jacket
19th March 2008, 08:09
Hey, excellent effort out there mate!! Know what you mean about remembering the road, I could'nt for the life of me remember most of it all weekend. Some of these smarty pants would talk about the 3rd right hander after XXX, I just nodded and agreed! Looked like you were having a great weekend, you're daughter is a really great kid as well. She's a really lovely kid who knows how to behave and is a credit to you! :niceone:

Ivan
19th March 2008, 08:32
Good on you Clive.
Dont be Disapointed at least you made it to the top.
I mean people might laugh at your times but you were the one that went up there and did it and you had more balls than me I didnt ride cause I wanted some time of bike cause of Dereks incident
So you are a brave man

Congrats

Ivan

Trudes
19th March 2008, 08:34
Nice one Clive, always a pleasure to see the smile on your dial too!!:)

Deano
19th March 2008, 08:43
It was great to see you out there having a ball mate.

I also think it was good medicine to get straight back into the saddle after Derek's funeral on Friday.

skelstar
19th March 2008, 08:46
Sounds good bro. Well done.

RantyDave
19th March 2008, 08:51
I have well honed survival instincts that get in the way of hurling myself around blind corners at max speed and decent lean angle.
Yeah. This is definitely the hard part :)

So, Tuono next year?

Dave

chanceyy
19th March 2008, 08:57
good to see you out there having fun Clive & your daughter worked like the trooper she is on Saturday .. got a maths lesson all day :)

your kids are a total credit to both you & lisa ...

see you next time :hug:

Sully60
19th March 2008, 09:34
Mate! Big up's for just getting out there.
I was having similar thoughts after Dereks accident so by getting your arse out there and doing it you probably conquered the most frightening thing right there, especially from a fathers perspective.
Like Deano said it's the best medicine but the thought of taking it was definately hard.:yes:

Hey for what it's worth you definately had the crispest launches out of all of the F3 boys! Whaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!:niceone:

Lissa
19th March 2008, 10:21
Awesome going Clive, well done. :)


your daughter worked like the trooper she is on Saturday .. got a maths lesson all day :) Did she ever... much better at maths than me... shes a neat kid!

koba
19th March 2008, 12:04
You weren't that slow at all, that still aint at all far behind!
Everything above is true and you are especially right about how the event ins different and special. damn hard to go even close to the right-hand side of the road!

I do hope we all manage to get back next year on 400's to give it another go because it was soo much fun jostling with you and LBTW! perhaps we could even add to the number of 400s screaming up the hill *cough* Dave *cough*....

You definatley had the prettiest 400 out there by a long long way (sorry simon!)

Nicksta
19th March 2008, 14:07
well done Clive.....
i'll come chase you up the hill next year ay :)

koba
19th March 2008, 14:26
well done Clive.....
i'll come chase you up the hill next year ay :)

DO IT!!!:clap:

yungatart
19th March 2008, 15:24
Well done, Clive!
BTW, all of his kids are great and a credit to him and their lovely mum!




But, oooh, that thread title....right dodgy!

flame
19th March 2008, 15:39
Great stuff Clive! pretty exilerating blasting up the cliff edge eh, great to hear you enjoyed it so much.

Kendog
19th March 2008, 16:32
Great effort out there :niceone:

Some piccys for you.

Ivan
19th March 2008, 17:16
Those are some really nice pics of Clive

Clivoris
19th March 2008, 18:17
Great effort out there :niceone:

Some piccys for you.

Cheers for that Nige.

Clivoris
19th March 2008, 18:35
Thanks all for the kind words. I'm in this racing thing for the long haul and like you all, I am determined to keep closing the gap between theory (I can go faster through there) and practice (I nailed it). Might have to save up for The California Superbike School, or I could be a bit more consistently thoughtful about my track riding. If there's an afterlife I am also in the cue for the occasional push out of the corner from Derek.
I am inordinately proud of my children. My girls aren't gonna be on the back of bikes for long. They think Flame, Str8 and Nicksta (and the other winter series demonesses) are legends. Get your arse down here for the next one Nicksta.
The Tuono Dave? I'm not insured for track days or time trials bro.

roadracingoldfart
19th March 2008, 20:12
My girls They think Flame, Str8 and Nicksta (and the other winter series demonesses) are legends. Get your arse down here for the next one Nicksta.
.

Well i recon i may have to make the hill climb a part of the race program for next year if Nicksta is keen.

I have been thinking long and hard about the sprints in Sept with, ahemm a slightly old retired chappie grabing the bars for a change. Look out Koba etc the 400 cup is going to grace a new shelf :niceone:

Well done clive and big ups to the organising crew behind the scenes.

Paul.

Clivoris
19th March 2008, 20:33
I have been thinking long and hard about the sprints in Sept with, ahemm a slightly old retired chappie grabing the bars for a change. Look out Koba etc the 400 cup is going to grace a new shelf :niceone:
Paul.

Sorry Paul. September is my month. Can I borrow some sprockets?

roadracingoldfart
19th March 2008, 20:44
Sorry Paul. September is my month. Can I borrow some sprockets?


Yeah like sure Clive hahahahahahahahahaha
ok i changed my mind , No you cant :bleh:

Ivan
19th March 2008, 21:28
Thanks all for the kind words. I'm in this racing thing for the long haul and like you all, I am determined to keep closing the gap between theory (I can go faster through there) and practice (I nailed it). Might have to save up for The California Superbike School, or I could be a bit more consistently thoughtful about my track riding. If there's an afterlife I am also in the cue for the occasional push out of the corner from Derek.
I am inordinately proud of my children. My girls aren't gonna be on the back of bikes for long. They think Flame, Str8 and Nicksta (and the other winter series demonesses) are legends. Get your arse down here for the next one Nicksta.
The Tuono Dave? I'm not insured for track days or time trials bro.

Im sure there is an after life and I hope Derek gives me a hand this season hes gonna be a busy guy atthe winter series helping us all

Grub
19th March 2008, 21:58
Some piccys for you.

Darn that's a purdy yella colour :)

koba
20th March 2008, 12:02
Well i recon i may have to make the hill climb a part of the race program for next year if Nicksta is keen.

I have been thinking long and hard about the sprints in Sept with, ahemm a slightly old retired chappie grabing the bars for a change. Look out Koba etc the 400 cup is going to grace a new shelf :niceone:

Well done clive and big ups to the organising crew behind the scenes.

Paul.

:2thumbsup Gooody!!!! Do it!

Drew
20th March 2008, 19:33
Hey for what it's worth you definately had the crispest launches out of all of the F3 boys! Whaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!:niceone:

Mate, PLUS ONE!!! Your launches are GOLD brutha, I wasn't paying any attention to the start line till I heard you turn it on. Fuck it was magic to watch.

Well done for the whole day man, great to see you, and meet your lovely daughter.