View Full Version : When motorcyclists treat public roads like their private racetracks
Katman
24th March 2008, 09:23
So how would we feel if a group of spotty boy racers got together in their WRX's and Evo whatevers, and decided to do the Coro loop in the shortest time possible?
Madness
24th March 2008, 09:26
Sounds to me like a perfect opportunity to give some cagers "the learn".
Katman, who pissed on your cornflakes today?
Steam
24th March 2008, 09:27
The only problem with motorcyclists zooming past far above the speed limit that is they are harder to hit with a pinecone thrown from behind the hedge.
Boy-racers are easier to hit because they travel in convoys of many cars, so there's time to hear the racing engines, run outside, find a pinecone, and get a good invisible spot behind the hedge.
You just hiff the cone over the hedge and it falls directly down onto the car, the boy-racers think it has just fallen from the tree.
Grahameeboy
24th March 2008, 09:29
Sounds to me like a perfect opportunity to give some cagers "the learn".
Katman, who pissed on your cornflakes today?
I think he did...
Edbear
24th March 2008, 10:06
Methinks he maybe has a point, though...
Kickaha
24th March 2008, 10:12
Methinks he maybe has a point, though...
Of course he does as far as double standards go, I think motorcyclists invented them
Subike
24th March 2008, 10:12
come to chch katman
that is what the boy racers do
travel in packs and race on public roads
so no worse than bikers?
very much worse than.. one car can kill more innocent people than one bike can
Katman
24th March 2008, 10:15
so no worse than bikers?
very much worse than.. one car can kill more innocent people than one bike can
So the crux of your argument is - one (or two) dead is better than four dead?
Kickaha
24th March 2008, 10:16
travel in packs and race on public roads
Sounds like a few Kb rides to me
very much worse than.. one car can kill more innocent people than one bike can
Yeah where as the single bike accidents that seem so common only kill the motorcyclist
YellowDog
24th March 2008, 10:19
So how would we feel if a group of spotty boy racers got together in their WRX's and Evo whatevers, and decided to do the Coro loop in the shortest time possible?
It gives the cops something easy to chase, plus they get to give out a a load of tickets on one go!
Subike
24th March 2008, 10:26
I said "packs of "
because its that pack mentality that takes over
where everyone involved is of one mind to cause havoc.
regaurdless of vehicle, bike or car, still a pack
A pack of outlaws on horses was common before the advent of cars, so its not a new social problem just one that can travel faster and do more damage.
yes, when a bike falls, its can be only the rider who is directly injured, but the rider, if it is a speeding offence related accident, is responcibile for his action.
When a boy racer crashes, it can be many injuries, driver, passengers, But the passengers can have little or no impact as to what is happening, ok, they can refuse to ride with the driver, personal choice and all that, but many innocent passengers are killed in speed related incidents.
Tell me
how can they be compared as being the same?
200kg of bike seldom does as much damage as 1500kg of car at 160kph!
Katman
24th March 2008, 10:29
yes, when a bike falls, its can be only the rider who is directly injured,
You seem to be missing the possibility of a motorcyclist taking out another motorcyclist head on. There's the potential for four deaths right there.
Subike
24th March 2008, 10:32
and a boy racer hitting a famly filled car kills how many in a head on?
zeocen
24th March 2008, 10:37
You guys are strange.. I think crashing as a whole is something you should just plain avoid, rather than talking semantics. ;/
XX is better than YY, some people need to get their head out of the sand imo, it's all tragic. Katman is a cockjuggler and goes about it *entirely* the wrong way, but he has a point.
FROSTY
24th March 2008, 10:42
Funny--the group rides I've been on lately have been "packs" of motorbikes.
But on the whole riding at or about the speed limit.
I must ride with different KBers than you lot :whistle:
Soul.Trader
24th March 2008, 10:43
Subike, trying to justify what we do is futile - to try and suggest that a 200kg bike at 160km/h cant so substantial damage is just silly.
Subike
24th March 2008, 10:54
im not trying to justify the action.
in the contex of the question
a car is safer?
neither are safe when the boundries of saftey are passed.
but I guess you could apply the question to many situations,
all a mater of perspective.
using a public road as a race track in any vehicle has the prtential for disaster on many levels.
Racing is for controlled roads, with supervision and safty gear avalabile for the use of in case the worst happens.
raceing on the public road is not what I think is good to do when the roads are used by those of a differing mind set. Ie families out for a country drive
dipshit
24th March 2008, 11:01
come to chch katman
that is what the boy racers do
travel in packs and race on public roads
Though they usually travel close to the speed limits when they are in these big groups late at night because they know the cops are watching them real close. (apart from the odd traffic light GP, that is)
The question is - what if these groups turned into 230 km/h flat-out races in the middle of the day?
Answer: Complete carnage and threads on KB pissing and moaning that the authorities should do something about it.
Zoolander
24th March 2008, 11:04
yes, when a bike falls, its can be only the rider who is directly injured
What a complete load of BS.
sugilite
24th March 2008, 12:21
So how would we feel if a group of spotty boy racers got together in their WRX's and Evo whatevers, and decided to do the Coro loop in the shortest time possible?
They probably do have such drives. What we need to do is send an undercover KB'er over to their forum, he could have a name like, say... Subaruman. He could start inflammatory threads under the guise of road safety then exercise (with great futility) his will upon them. In no time they will be all thinking exactly like he does and his world will be complete. In order to protect his real identity, he will need to close his membership at KB. We will miss you katman :2thumbsup Opps, I meant :bye:
Katman
24th March 2008, 12:25
They probably do have such drives. What we need to do is send an undercover KB'er over to their forum, he could have a name like, say... Subaruman. He could start inflammatory threads under the guise of road safety then exercise (with great futility) his will upon them. In no time they will be all thinking exactly like he does and his world will be complete. In order to protect his real identity, he will need to close his membership at KB. We will miss you katman :2thumbsup Opps, I meant :bye:
Wow, you must have put extra special thought into that post.:msn-wink:
sugilite
24th March 2008, 12:28
Are you still here? Haven't you got undercover work to do?
Fatjim
24th March 2008, 13:10
Actually, the tuka's are a racetrack. Anybody who treats them as a road should get ticketed for careless use.
James Deuce
24th March 2008, 13:20
Just mentally label them Hezbikkah and move gently out of the way.
FROSTY
24th March 2008, 13:23
Katman meet sugilite-motorbike racer in Nz for as many years as I'm prepared to admit to.
Sugilite meet katmat . Nz bike rider not currently raceing but currently supporting a bike racer through his buisiness.
Aint real life so much better than the interweb ?
Fatjim
24th March 2008, 14:08
Everyone, meet Katman. Who talks bullshit.
ynot slow
24th March 2008, 14:12
Coro loop,any difference between car racers and bike racers,seems a lot here go on how fast they can do the loop on a bike.Just part of maturity the fast riding/speeding,mind you some don't grow up,hey I still drive the car quick at times,as much as anyone does,bike is a little different,too easy to loose my license.
We had an event called Americana this year as well as last in the Naki province.Seems last year they had a parade around the main streets of NP,a few complaints of burn outs being done,was no wonder the boy racers were pissed with lack of traffic tickets issued,if it was boy racers there would've been an uproar.
Usarka
24th March 2008, 14:34
While i may kind of agree with the sentiments of the post, i find it hard to listen to road safety message from someone who believes people dont remember accidents because they are embarrased......
slopster
24th March 2008, 14:36
Nothing wrong with the boy racers having a play on coro loop. The real sports cars do it but unfortunately the boy racers won't because theres no one to show off to in rural areas.
jrandom
24th March 2008, 15:21
What's all this nonsense about 'fastest time around the Coro loop'?
I don't know of anyone who actually time-trials themselves around those roads.
Personally, I have no idea how long it takes, what with all the stopping at Coroglen and Coromandel and everywhere else for vast quantities of shit-talking, etc.
owner
24th March 2008, 15:34
So come on whos got the best time? Id say 8 hours ak to ak but i didnt have tyre warmers someones bound to beat it
P/T
MisterD
24th March 2008, 15:42
Coro loop,any difference between car racers and bike racers,seems a lot here go on how fast they can do the loop on a bike.
I rode the Thames - Tairua section on Friday on my pushie and the difference between the bikers (passing with loads of room to spare, good sensible lines through corners) and the boi racers (tailgating, crossing the center line, passengers leaning out of windows) couldn't have been more obvious.
Hey , and thanks to the Harleys going the other way that waved as I was struggling up the hill and the sprotsbiker that gave me the thumbs-up as he passed me as I was touching 80k's down the other side...
madandy
24th March 2008, 17:03
So how would we feel if a group of spotty boy racers got together in their WRX's and Evo whatevers, and decided to do the Coro loop in the shortest time possible?
It happens already.
Often in the wee small hours when people are snoring in their beds.
First & last time I was involved in a mass cage run 'round the loop a bloke in his 50's managed to flip his supercharged MX5, in a 120km/h blind right hander over crest, and fold the 'A' pillars flat. He walked away laughing. THough if he'd hit an oncoming vehicle he'd have been a murderer.
A motorcyclist would have most likely died or been seriously fucked up in the same circumstance.
onearmedbandit
24th March 2008, 17:09
So how would we feel if a group of spotty boy racers got together in their WRX's and Evo whatevers, and decided to do the Coro loop in the shortest time possible?
It would give us riders another thing to blame other than ourselves in the case of a crash. :niceone:
Wingnut
24th March 2008, 17:13
Personally I believe there is a time and a place for everything. I have seen some outright dumb shit been done on bikes over the years. Doesn't worry me until the innocent road users get caught up in it all.
scumdog
24th March 2008, 17:18
It would give us riders another thing to blame other than ourselves in the case of a crash. :niceone:
Mwahahaah! SO true!
Ain't there a club called the 'Coro-Binners'???
Usarka
24th March 2008, 17:20
Ain't there a club called the 'Coro-Binners'???
So much so that when the missus used to complain when i was surfing kb so i told here i was watchin coro street.....:innocent:
White trash
24th March 2008, 17:33
So how would we feel if a group of spotty boy racers got together in their WRX's and Evo whatevers, and decided to do the Coro loop in the shortest time possible?
I'd feel pretty good about the chance of scoring a new dEvo or Rex in a pink slip race. Although I'd prefer a nice GTR Skyline.
Might even be moved to chuck a new pair of slicks on the race bike for the occasion.
limbimtimwim
24th March 2008, 18:12
Ha ha!!
I farted!!
Whoops, sorry, wrong thread!
Oh no wait, no.. This is the correct thread.
Katman
24th March 2008, 18:48
Like I said in a PM to Drew, I tend to call a spade a "fucking spade" - and there's a few "fucking spades" in this thread already.
Biggles08
24th March 2008, 19:10
Like I said in a PM to Drew, I tend to call a spade a "fucking spade" - and there's a few "fucking spades" in this thread already.
Why yes there is Katman...yes there is?!:niceone:
McDuck
24th March 2008, 19:32
It is up to the rider. I am glad i live in a place where i can decide for myself.
Usarka
24th March 2008, 19:38
Like I said in a PM to Drew, I tend to call a spade a "fucking spade"
Oi there are non-motorcyclists reading this! i dont want motorcyclists to be associated with that kind of attitude, or language. :oi-grr:
325rocket
24th March 2008, 19:47
Like I said in a PM to Drew, I tend to call a spade a "fucking spade" - and there's a few "fucking spades" in this thread already.
so many come backs ... way, way to easy
ynot slow
24th March 2008, 19:47
I Hey , and thanks to the Harleys going the other way that waved as I was struggling up the hill and the sprotsbiker that gave me the thumbs-up as he passed me as I was touching 80k's down the other side...
Saw a guy loaded to gunwhales once on a bike pedalling in low gear up a looong hill,said to him grab a hold of my bike(XR200),went up the hill at 30km or so behind a truck and trailer.
Considering he was trying to get to a back packers lodge 15km in the country and took a wrong turn he was happy,I followed him to his b/p giving him a drag up a few more hills,clocked him at 65km down a couple though.
Toaster
24th March 2008, 19:51
What's all this nonsense about 'fastest time around the Coro loop'?
I don't know of anyone who actually time-trials themselves around those roads.
Personally, I have no idea how long it takes, what with all the stopping at Coroglen and Coromandel and everywhere else for vast quantities of shit-talking, etc.
I am sure now the little seed has been sown in the minds of some that we will start to see posted times.
I am sure I can beat everyone myself to the slowest time... as I push the cruiser around the corners.
PrincessBandit
24th March 2008, 20:12
Perfectly reasonable question if you ask me. Ok, ok so no one asked. Well too bad. Interesting to see the raised hackles and personal slagging already started over an otherwise... perfectly reasonable question.
Not sure why girly name calling had to come into the equation - oh wait, it's what so many do soooooooooo well here :doh:
marty
24th March 2008, 20:20
you mean we could time our ride around the loop? we could have a different classes - like - non-stop, 1 stop (@ coroglen), 2 stops (coroglen and pepper tree), 3 stops (tapu, pepper tree and coro) and so on...
could also include a 'stopped to pick up a fallen noob' class
White trash
24th March 2008, 20:39
Like I said in a PM to Drew, I tend to call a spade a "fucking spade" - and there's a few "fucking spades" in this thread already.
You are welcome :first:
limbimtimwim
24th March 2008, 20:45
<img src="http://www.buzzworks.nl/files/artists/Spade_1.jpg" alt="Fucking spade">
_Shrek_
24th March 2008, 20:53
Like I said in a PM to Drew, I tend to call a spade a "fucking spade" - and there's a few "fucking spades" in this thread already.
hey bro thought i better let you know i'm a parlungi :laugh:
MidnightMike
24th March 2008, 21:01
The question is - what if these groups turned into 230 km/h flat-out races in the middle of the day?
Answer: Most of the peices of shit the stereotypical boy racers drive wouldnt go that fast.
Nothing wrong with the boy racers having a play on coro loop. The real sports cars do it but unfortunately the boy racers won't because theres no one to show off to in rural areas.
Yeop, ive seen a Lamborghini up there before and a couple of porshe's.
I am sure now the little seed has been sown in the minds of some that we will start to see posted times.
I am sure I can beat everyone myself to the slowest time... as I push the cruiser around the corners.
you mean we could time our ride around the loop? we could have a different classes - like - non-stop, 1 stop (@ coroglen), 2 stops (coroglen and pepper tree), 3 stops (tapu, pepper tree and coro) and so on...
could also include a 'stopped to pick up a fallen noob' class
What about having stages like rally cars. :eek:
And classes like <250cc, 400cc, 590-700cc and then 700-1000+
It could be like NZ's version of the Isle of Mann. :headbang:
Katman you fool, you have started something here! :shifty:
Mikkel
24th March 2008, 22:24
Of course he does as far as double standards go, I think motorcyclists invented them
Actually no. Double standards was a project overrun that occurred when the hippies were developing hypocrisy back in the 1970s. It was a technology that quickly gained foothold and have now spread to all walks of life.
Not sure why girly name calling had to come into the equation - oh wait, it's what so many do soooooooooo well here :doh:
It's an internet forum - it's what they were designed for.
As for people wanting to go fast. By all means do so - just stay on your own fucking side of the centreline thank you very much!
gijoe1313
24th March 2008, 22:36
This thread is useless without pics! :oi-grr: Oh wait... wrong thread! :doh: Burn them! Burn them all! :doh: Still wrong thread ... as you were, as you were!
onearmedbandit
24th March 2008, 22:41
Am I a spade? Or should I know the answer to that? Damn.
As far as double standards go, we all have them. For example, anyone that drives slower than us is a 'fucking slow c#nt who should be ordered off the road' and anyone who drives faster than you is a 'fucking idiot who should be ordered off the road'.
Now katman will hate me, but I do speed on the open road, right occassion and all that of course. Although my bike can almost do 200km/h in 2nd gear, I really ever see over 200 on the public roads, I can't be bothered. What I do like is going fast in the twisties, using the warp factor (tm) drive it has out of corners. I do also find that my bike has a problem with the front end remaining planted at times. It happens. So when I see a group, or even one, 'boy-racer' out in the same place as me having fun, I have no problem with it, heck as I pass them (this is quite often where the front end issue raises its ugly head) I smile to myself knowing they are enjoying themselves.
What I don't like is them speeding up and down Bealy Ave all night long. Just the same as I don't like executives in their 'sports' sedans speeding through town, or truck drivers, or heaven forbid, motoryclists.
Boob Johnson
24th March 2008, 22:45
So how would we feel if a group of spotty boy racers got together in their WRX's and Evo whatevers, and decided to do the Coro loop in the shortest time possible?
Probably about the same as if you accidentally chopped your head off in a nasty shaving accident.............nothing :buggerd:
EnzoYug
24th March 2008, 23:09
So how would we feel if a group of spotty boy racers got together in their WRX's and Evo whatevers, and decided to do the Coro loop in the shortest time possible?
They'd run out of gas halfway wouldn't they?
aderino4
24th March 2008, 23:29
:Oi: Define Boyracer?
does that include 30s - 40s in their modified skyline,Evo, WRX, Honda Type Rs..
Such a bad over-generalised term which doesn't make sense.
If you're talking about the 10s-20s in their chopped spring Nissan Bluebird doing burnout.. they won't even be able to turn at normal speed. LOL
scumdog
25th March 2008, 06:54
This thread is useless without pics! :oi-grr: Oh wait... wrong thread! :doh: Burn them! Burn them all! :doh: Still wrong thread ... as you were, as you were!
Beer.
You forgot to mention beer.
ALL KB threads degenerate into a beer thread.
MisterD
25th March 2008, 07:14
Beer.
You forgot to mention beer.
ALL KB threads degenerate into a beer thread.
Degenerate? Would you like to reconsider the use of that word? :apint:
CookMySock
25th March 2008, 07:15
Interesting to see the raised hackles and personal slagging already started over an otherwise... perfectly reasonable question.
Not sure why girly name calling had to come into the equation - oh wait, it's what so many do soooooooooo well here :doh:aint that the truth. I think folks are much braver sitting behind a keyboard than they are in a pub or ride setting. After putting some thought into it, I still don't really understand this. I regularly make an ass of my self here, then have to face up to people in real life.. so, sigh.
DB
sinfull
25th March 2008, 07:21
Beer.
You forgot to mention beer.
ALL KB threads degenerate into a beer thread.
Mmmmmm beer !! How about a split leg time trial several stops with a scull at each stop ? Now that could generate some wide lines on the last leg !
MidnightMike
25th March 2008, 08:20
:Oi: Define Boyracer?
does that include 30s - 40s in their modified skyline,Evo, WRX, Honda Type Rs..
Such a bad over-generalised term which doesn't make sense.
If you're talking about the 10s-20s in their chopped spring Nissan Bluebird doing burnout.. they won't even be able to turn at normal speed. LOL
Exactly what I was saying here:
The question is - what if these groups turned into 230 km/h flat-out races in the middle of the day?
Answer: Most of the peices of shit the stereotypical boy racers drive wouldnt go that fast.
Eg: Boyracer car: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mazda/auction-146707242/k-91034.htm
Car enthusiast car: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mitsubishi/auction-147081132.htm?key=93246
There is a difference.
Fatjim
25th March 2008, 08:50
aint that the truth. I think folks are much braver sitting behind a keyboard than they are in a pub or ride setting. After putting some thought into it, I still don't really understand this. I regularly make an ass of my self here, then have to face up to people in real life.. so, sigh.
DB
Perfectly reasonable question if you ask me. Ok, ok so no one asked. Well too bad. Interesting to see the raised hackles and personal slagging already started over an otherwise... perfectly reasonable question.
Not sure why girly name calling had to come into the equation - oh wait, it's what so many do soooooooooo well here :doh:
Its called context,, however Katman left that bit out.
He basically slagged off Skelly after binning it on the tukas and not to remembering anything about it. Claiming that he must of been hooning and was to embarassed to admit it.
Whereas he actually suffered a bloody big knock to the head (I saw his helmet), and I've riden with Skelly hundreds of times and never seen him take risks.
Hence the Katman talks bullshit bit.
Mikkel
25th March 2008, 10:13
aint that the truth. I think folks are much braver sitting behind a keyboard than they are in a pub or ride setting. After putting some thought into it, I still don't really understand this. I regularly make an ass of my self here, then have to face up to people in real life.. so, sigh.
DB
Hey, at least the "badge number or this goes international" was entertaining! :yes:
Katman has gotten to the point where he might as well just post a thread with only a title and we could imagine the content.
ManDownUnder
25th March 2008, 10:16
So how would we feel if a group of spotty boy racers got together in their WRX's and Evo whatevers, and decided to do the Coro loop in the shortest time possible?
Blingo...
Methinks he maybe has a point, though...
Methinks he has a damned good one...!
Of course he does as far as double standards go, I think motorcyclists invented them
A bit of a generalisation there... but f'n near impossible to fault.
dipshit
25th March 2008, 11:47
Most of the peices of shit the stereotypical boy racers drive wouldnt go that fast.
There are plenty of powerful and wickedly fast boy racer cars out there though. I have even driven a friend of a friend's 650hp Supra myself.
What kills them for high-speed cruising, is their chopped and lowered suspension done solely to make them look "cool", but turns them into peices of shit on anything that even looks like a bump on the road.
If boy racers were to start to have flat-out high-speed racers with each other on public roads, it would be complete carnage.
onearmedbandit
25th March 2008, 11:52
Does your friends Supra have cut springs? I know plenty of enthusiasts, with cars from mildly modified EVO's through to highly modified GTR Skylines pushing 1000hp. Ain't none of them got cut springs, sure a lot of them are lowered, but on suspension that's worth over a grand a corner. Believe me, these cars still handle. The only people who would use cut springs now days would be those in piece of shit Familias and Bluebirds, not performance cars.
Edbear
25th March 2008, 11:53
...If boy racers were to start to have flat-out high-speed racers with each other on public roads, it would be complete carnage.
Ummm! Seen the news lately?
jrandom
25th March 2008, 12:01
turns them into peices of shit on anything that even looks like a bump on the road
You should try riding my SRAD with its Ohlins rear shock that has heaps of compression damping dialed in. It's like taking hammerblows up the spine on any surface of less than racetrack quality.
(In fact, the shock could probably use a service and a fair amount of setup attention - at this point, I've just left it as it came from two owners ago, when it was a full-time racebike.)
You'd probably find yourself having exactly the same 'piece of shit' experience on bumpy roads in a Porsche GT3 that'd been set up for circuit racing.
It has nothing to do with the suspension being 'shit'; sometimes people really do just want to set their vehicles up for use on the track, and are happy to leave them be and accept the compromised handling on bad surfaces when they go out for a play on the road.
dipshit
25th March 2008, 12:03
Does your friends Supra have cut springs?
Nah, the Supra had mega $$$ spent on it. There are shit loads of budget boy racer cars around Dunedin though. Quite amusing watching their lowered Honda Preludes and such bouncing over driveway entrances at 10km/h getting out of service stations.
dipshit
25th March 2008, 12:05
Ummm! Seen the news lately?
That is nothing compared to what it could be like.
dipshit
25th March 2008, 12:09
You should try riding my SRAD with its Ohlins rear shock that has heaps of compression damping dialed in. It's like taking hammerblows up the spine on any surface of less than racetrack quality.
It's just stupid when people don't know the difference between a race track and the road... and don't know how to set up suspension for each accordingly.
Edbear
25th March 2008, 12:10
That is nothing compared to what it could be like.
I reckon it's bad enough. But it does seem to be getting worse. When one considers the standard of driving in general in this country, my main marvel is that the road toll is as low as it is!
scumdog
25th March 2008, 12:13
I reckon it's bad enough. But it does seem to be getting worse. When one considers the standard of driving in general in this country, my main marvel is that the road toll is as low as it is!
Yup, on Thursday last week near Timaru on the passing lanes, watched a gaggle of cars passing a large truck - but obviously not quick enough for one Einstien who crossed the double yellow lines into the passing lane for traffic going the other way and passed everybody, truck, other cars, the lot!!
jrandom
25th March 2008, 12:14
It's just stupid when people don't know the difference between a race track and the road... and don't know how to set up suspension for each accordingly.
When the primary purpose of a bike is to be ridden on the track and it has suspension adjusters that are not easily accessible, folk <del>with slightly less tiny minds than yourself</del> of sympathetic bent to a poor muppet like me might be expected to sympathise with a casual rider who doesn't bother to find entirely separate configurations and change them every time the bike goes out on a different surface.
:niceone:
Mikkel
25th March 2008, 12:27
We're talking suspension in cars all of a sudden. Let's get this thing back on-topic! (Or at least make the discussion more interesting than talking about how much money is thrown at suspension - car suspension is "slightly" more complicated than that.)
Yup, on Thursday last week near Timaru on the passing lanes, watched a gaggle of cars passing a large truck - but obviously not quick enough for one Einstien who crossed the double yellow lines into the passing lane for traffic going the other way and passed everybody, truck, other cars, the lot!!
One question - was the road ahead clear and straight? In that case I'd say I see heaps more dangerous maneuvers every day - all done well within the legal boundaries of the law. Passing lane etiquette in NZ is abhorrent and you know that as well as I do.
Next time you sit stuck in traffic due to the sheeple - take some comfort that some people do think outside the box.
MIXONE
25th March 2008, 12:55
Yup, on Thursday last week near Timaru on the passing lanes, watched a gaggle of cars passing a large truck - but obviously not quick enough for one Einstien who crossed the double yellow lines into the passing lane for traffic going the other way and passed everybody, truck, other cars, the lot!!
How much did that cost him when you caught up?Did you catch up?
scumdog
25th March 2008, 13:20
How much did that cost him when you caught up?Did you catch up?
Nah, in my hot rod about 1/4+ of a km behind.
I guess he got past safely but not a good move - not only did he have a large truck and all the cars passing it and already on front of it to out-accelerate (and it sure as hell didn't look like any form of land-missile from where I could see) but he would have been coming in from the side which other drivers would not have expected a car to appear from.
dipshit
25th March 2008, 13:26
When the primary purpose of a bike is to be ridden on the track and it has suspension adjusters...
Oh no. Someone does a couple of track days and suddenly they are a motorcycle racer with a race bike.
FilthyLuka
25th March 2008, 13:43
dudes! i just had an idea, see. As someone mentioned earlier, a three stop class... Well, what about a motorcycle relay :yes: Get yourself, and two buddies, position yourself around the Coro loop, ride to stop one, tag, other dude rides to stop 2, tag ect. ect.
p/t
McDuck
25th March 2008, 13:44
dudes! i just had an idea, see. As someone mentioned earlier, a three stop class... Well, what about a motorcycle relay :yes: Get yourself, and two buddies, position yourself around the Coro loop, ride to stop one, tag, other dude rides to stop 2, tag ect. ect.
p/t
hell i am in ;)
FilthyLuka
25th March 2008, 13:45
When the primary purpose of a bike is to be ridden on the track
Not talkin about the 1400 here are ya J?
jrandom
25th March 2008, 13:49
Oh no. Someone does a couple of track days and suddenly they are a motorcycle racer with a race bike.
Eh?
You talking about me?
I've never raced a motorcycle in my life, and make no claim to being a rider of any merit whatsoever. I can barely keep the bloody things upright. It was a cause for significant celebration when I got my knee down at the last trackday I attended.
I do happen to own a 'race bike', though, for whatever that's worth.
Last year, I bought an 8-year-old SRAD that had all of 19,000km on the clock due to spending most of its life in a garage or on the track, and I've hardly touched it since.
None of its suspension setup was done by me or for me.
Bit of a cunt, really, aren't you?
:confused:
jrandom
25th March 2008, 13:51
Not talkin about the 1400 here are ya J?
No, but come to think of it, a GSX1400 racing class would be totally awesome.
:eek:
Edbear
25th March 2008, 13:54
Yup, on Thursday last week near Timaru on the passing lanes, watched a gaggle of cars passing a large truck - but obviously not quick enough for one Einstien who crossed the double yellow lines into the passing lane for traffic going the other way and passed everybody, truck, other cars, the lot!!
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=54437
Something like this, I guess...
kiwifruit
25th March 2008, 13:59
Eh?
You talking about me?
Bit of a cunt, really, aren't you?
:confused:
jBLVN-89T14
jrandom
25th March 2008, 14:06
*videoZ*
Yeah, a little bit, aye.
:(
dipshit
25th March 2008, 14:13
Last year, I bought an 8-year-old SRAD that had all of 19,000km on the clock due to spending most of its life in a garage or on the track, and I've hardly touched it since.
Oh, I see. I thought you were talking about your 1400.
jrandom
25th March 2008, 14:19
Oh, I see. I thought you were talking about your 1400.
Engage brain before typing, dude.
The GSX1400's suspension adjusters are big fat hand-twiddleable knobs hanging off the side of the bike. If the stock springs and dampers wasn't so damn squishy and coarse that everything needed to be on full crank all the time, it'd be great for adjusting between one up / two up / road / track etc as required.
The GSXR's Ohlins unit, on the other hand, is tucked away under the rear subframe and requires certain tools to change the settings on.
When in doubt, you do tend to default to being a meanie bum, don't you?
Horse
25th March 2008, 14:25
Yup, on Thursday last week near Timaru on the passing lanes, watched a gaggle of cars passing a large truck - but obviously not quick enough for one Einstien who crossed the double yellow lines into the passing lane for traffic going the other way and passed everybody, truck, other cars, the lot!!
Um, probably because the truck was doing 95km/h (sped up from the 90km/h it was doing before it hit the passing lane) and the cars were obeying the speed limit and crawling passed the truck at 103km/h - using the entire length of the passing lane for just two or three cars to overtake the truck.
Not that it excuses what the genius you described was up to, but there might just be a reason why frustration breaks out on passing lanes....
BIGBOSSMAN
25th March 2008, 15:08
No, but come to think of it, a GSX1400 racing class would be totally awesome.
:eek:
The bike equivalent of truck racing :yes:
jrandom
25th March 2008, 15:11
The bike equivalent of truck racing
A little bit aye!
:rockon:
HDTboy
25th March 2008, 16:33
Nissan Bluebird doing burnout.. they won't even be able to turn at normal speed. LOL
Bet I could beat you around the Coromandel in my Bluebird, Kopu to Kopu clockwise with no stops.
piece of shit Familias and Bluebirds, not performance cars.
What's the big problem with Bluebirds? You're all a pack of arseholes!
For the record: I'm over racing on the road, you can't go fast.
Subike
25th March 2008, 17:06
nissan blue bird success stories???
Just the local track that might interest you all BATH HURST!
James Hardie 1000 1982 8th overall 1st class B
James Hardie 1000 1984 George fury driver POLE POSITION NEXT TO BROCKS COMMODOR!
the fastest pole position time on the old bathurst circit belongs to.......
Yeap!
George Fury driving a NISSAN BLUEBIRD 910T 2 min 13.853 seconds
Nissan GT-R was 2 min 12.62 seconds,
Presant lap record! 2:07.0908 Mark Winterbottom
So that was not a slow lap by even todays standards!
Oran Park Endurance race 1983 WINNER,Nissan Bluebird!!
second was who cares!
As an interesting foot note
the record for the entire race was......
Mark Skaife partnered the great Jim Richards to victory in six hours 19 minutes 14.80 seconds in 1991 in the fastest race of all time.
The all-star duo's best lap time in their Nissan GT-R was two minutes 12.62 seconds, which is about four seconds slower than the times around Mount Panorama
Now the european and american circits were also dominated by the bluebird in those same years
so dont rubbish the lowley bluebird..in its class it was the best of its breed
Corro loop would be a walk in the park for George Furys 910T
McDuck
25th March 2008, 17:14
bluebirds are shit. ^^^ confirms it.
ynot slow
25th March 2008, 17:28
Nuthin wrong with the old datsun/nissan,especially the 1200 SSS and later 120Y SSS,mine 1973 and 1979? had dyno sheets of just over 100hp at rear wheel,and both stock standard,only probs was the rust in em.Wanted to hook up a 5 sp but the celica ones were to damn expensive,put twin airfilters similar to K&N on the dellortos as only mod.
rufusdion
25th March 2008, 17:32
The only problem with motorcyclists zooming past far above the speed limit that is they are harder to hit with a pinecone thrown from behind the hedge.
Boy-racers are easier to hit because they travel in convoys of many cars, so there's time to hear the racing engines, run outside, find a pinecone, and get a good invisible spot behind the hedge.
You just hiff the cone over the hedge and it falls directly down onto the car, the boy-racers think it has just fallen from the tree.
:eek::eek::eek::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl ::rofl::rofl:
that is funny, had me in fits
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