View Full Version : Visor problem!! Any Ideas?
huck farley
25th March 2008, 18:58
I have a HJC helmet and it is a good fitting helmet .Only one thing wrong with it, and that is the visor.
On a stinking hot day, and I want the visor on maybe one or two clicks, to let a bit of air in. The bloody useless thing slams shut above 80kph.
And just the same riding in rain, or a cooler morning when you want it open to clear the fog from the screen or that annoying condensation that builds.
I have had the lid for a couple of years now. So I treated it a new fog free visor.
Just the same, the visor won't stay up. Only in the wide open position. And as for the fog free. Well it's a load of bull shit.
Any Ideas how to keep it open on the lower end of the clicks anyone?
Cheers
Huck
Grumpy
25th March 2008, 19:03
Some years ago I was racing Superkarts and used to experience the same problem when it rained. Ended up taping a little piece of small diameter plastic tubing to keep it open. Looked a little bit naff but did the trick.
Gubb
25th March 2008, 19:12
I've got an HJC, and had a breathguard for it, seems to work wonders for the fogging up, but unsure of what you can do with it shutting on you...
merv
25th March 2008, 19:14
Doesn't it have the adjuster screws on the side to tighten the visor up?
CookMySock
25th March 2008, 19:42
My Wife has an HJC and I don't like it. As you say, the tilt notches are in the wrong place. The visor on my cheapo FFM is much easier to use - great around town open just one click. Never had it slam shut, at any speed.
The anti-fog coating is bogus. Take the visor off and wet it under the warm tap, then soap it up bigtime inside and out with dishdrops until it's clean clean clean and then dry it with a chamois or clean tea towel. Coat it with Turtlewax Ice inside and out and buff to a shine. Keep a tiny bottle of water+dishdrops and a little cloth in your jacket pocket and keep the visor clean. Re-Ice regularly.
Whenever I'm on a trip everyone raids my wash bottle. <_<
DB
HungusMaximist
25th March 2008, 19:45
If you have a look at your helmet side on where the visor mechanism sits, perhaps it has just worn down over time?
The question you have to ask yourself, has this happened when you first bought your helmet?
From my experience cheaper helmets have the tendency to 'snap' shut when you have them open and travelling at a high speed.
But helmet designs are getting really good these days quite a few brands like Shark these days offer a locking mechanism like a 'tab' that sits near the visor mechanism whicn enables you to lock the visor open.
As for fog proofing your visor, you can't go past the whole 'fog city' range of inserts which is sits on the inside of your helmet and creates a 'double glazing' effect.
HungusMaximist
25th March 2008, 19:55
The anti-fog coating is bogus. Take the visor off and wet it under the warm tap, then soap it up bigtime inside and out with dishdrops until it's clean clean clean and then dry it with a chamois or clean tea towel. Coat it with Turtlewax Ice inside and out and buff to a shine. Keep a tiny bottle of water+dishdrops and a little cloth in your jacket pocket and keep the visor clean. Re-Ice regularly.
Whenever I'm on a trip everyone raids my wash bottle. <_<
DB
I haven't used an anti-fog visor but I can agree with DB that a lot of the AF-visor stuff that's on the market doesn't live up to it's name.
Not here to slob off any potential buyers but be completely sure that it works when you're dishing out a good hundy.
There's a crap load of anti-fog stuff on the market, you can even try those anti-fog spray for swimming goggles. The key is really keeping your visor clean on the inside like DB mentioned and re-apply a thin layer of whatever when it's necessary.
Smearing a thin layer of dish washing liquid on the inside also works.
Usually you'll find that if you open your visor one click/at it's lowest opening while you're riding around in the rain it should be sufficient enough to get rid of the fog, it only gets you when you're stationary/at the lights.
m99dws
25th March 2008, 21:32
You're lucky. I'm starting to get visor-creep and it begins to open around 100km not close! I use either the Hein Gericke anti-fog spray I brought from the UK which lasts about 4-5 days, or just rub some washing up liquid on and dry off - lasts a few weeks!
huck farley
28th March 2008, 08:09
this happened when you first bought your helmet?
From my experience cheaper helmets have the tendency to 'snap' shut when you have them open and travelling at a high speed.
Is $350 a cheep helmet do you think? The hemet in question is getting up the top of the line for HJC crash lids.
firefighter
28th March 2008, 08:37
Is $350 a cheep helmet do you think? The hemet in question is getting up the top of the line for HJC crash lids.
yes............
CookMySock
28th March 2008, 08:38
Is $350 a cheep helmet do you think? The hemet in question is getting up the top of the line for HJC crash lids.its nearly three times the price of the FFM.
A HUNDRED BUCKS for some anti-fog solution is just thievery, unless I am seriously missing something. Sure, my visor fogs when I huff on the inside of it, but it clears between breaths.
DB
Ripperjon
28th March 2008, 08:49
yes............
not really
Meekey_Mouse
28th March 2008, 13:23
Simple... Buy an Arai :lol:
kinger
28th March 2008, 15:52
I dumped my HJC when the visor kept flying wide open when I did life savers.
Is $350 cheap? If it fits better than an Arai, it'll do a better job, so money isn't really the issue. You pay for less noise, better venting, removable liners etc, but the fit is #1 criteria if you want to save your head.
Also, I can vouch for Fog City inserts in UK winter, rainy, early morning commutes. Couldn't feel my fingertips, but could see.
paturoa
28th March 2008, 19:05
Had the same problem with my old HJC. The locking mechanism got worn over time. What I discoverred was that when closing the visor it pulled forward and draged the visor roundy pin thin forward in the locking mechanism so that it wasn;t correctly "seated".
So what i would do before putttin it on each time is check it and just push it towards the rear of the helmit and it would ratchet properly until closed again.
Sometimes I could push it backwards to get it to seat properly while riding but not always.
CHOPPA
28th March 2008, 20:54
not sure if they are available for an hjc but i have "pin lock" visors in my helmets and they WILL NOT Fog at all even if you try to make it fog to test it....
huck farley
29th March 2008, 08:10
Simple... Buy an Arai :lol:
I don't like bad mouthing other products, but I have owned an Arai before the HJC. And without a doubt the ARAI would have to be the biggest waste of $800 I have ever parted with.
It was the worst fitting helmet I had ever bought. Also the noisiest. Couldn't get rid of it quick enough lost $350 on it.
The HJC fits my head perfect. So once I get this visor thing sorted. I will keep it for three yeas. Then I will replace it with a similar helmet..
CHOPPA
29th March 2008, 10:06
I don't like bad mouthing other products, but I have owned an Arai before the HJC. And without a doubt the ARAI would have to be the biggest waste of $800 I have ever parted with.
It was the worst fitting helmet I had ever bought. Also the noisiest. Couldn't get rid of it quick enough lost $350 on it.
The HJC fits my head perfect. So once I get this visor thing sorted. I will keep it for three yeas. Then I will replace it with a similar helmet..
yeah it really does come down to your head shape, i have been wearing arai helmets since i was 8 im on my 12th... i think my head has moulded to the helmet! Also if your gonna buy one its better to go the hole hog and get the rx7, i have a quantum or something just cause i wanted the crafar rep but my rx7s are much better.
I talked my old man into gettin one but he was not that impressed either complaining about the noise, but then again he is old! haha he now wants one of those shuber*$%( somethings....
huck farley
29th March 2008, 10:11
not sure if they are available for an hjc but i have "pin lock" visors in my helmets and they WILL NOT Fog at all even if you try to make it fog to test it....
Hi Choppa, been there done that, your right they don't fog up with the pin lock. But they do condensate up big time.
I think we are getting a wee bit of track here. I want to be able to keep my visor on one or two clicks. So as to keep an air supply (good band) getting through on a stinking hot day. Rather than slamming shut in my face. and vice verso for the winter months when fogged up and condensate is a real problem.
I am trying the soap trick. Keeps the fog at bay but not the condensate. Only fresh air will get rid of it.
FROSTY
29th March 2008, 10:16
2 years old--if its a recent thing the slamming down then you might want to see if you can buy a replacement ratchet kit.
-as someone else has said--is the tension on the ratchet mechanism adjustable?-maybee moving both sides 1-2mmm forwards will solve the problem
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