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johnsv650
27th March 2008, 13:47
can anyone advice how much a lap faster are the carbon fibre wheels over the standard ones, are they worth the extra outlay on a race bike ?

ArcherWC
27th March 2008, 13:55
As far as I know, you cant use carbon fibre wheels racing in NZ, except maybe in clubmans

johan
27th March 2008, 15:09
The below was taken from ducati.ms:
http://www.ducati.ms/forums/showthread.php?t=29854

It's an interesting way to look at things, even if it doesn't answer your question exactly.

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How about a free front magnesium wheel with your next tire purchase?

Consider this:

3.5 x 17 Wheel Weights:

Ducati OEM aluminum 5-spoke .... 9.25 lbs
Marchesini magnesium 5-spoke ... 6.80 lbs
Weight Savings ................. 2.45 lbs


120/70ZR17 Tire Weights (Sport Rider Magazine June 2002)

Dunlop D207RR ............... 10.44 lbs
Pirelli Super Corsa............. 8.38 lbs
Weight Savings ................. 2.06 lbs

Dunlop D207RR ............... 10.44 lbs
Bridgestone BT-010 .......... 8.81 lbs
Weight Savings ................. 1.63 lbs

This seemingly small weight difference between the heaviest Dunlops and the lighter Bridgestones is even more important than a larger weight savings at the wheel.

Simply stated, the rotational inertia of a wheel or tire is proportional to the square of the distance the weight is placed from the axle. Because of this square-effect, the tire weight has more effect on the rotational inertia of the wheel-tire combination mainly because of its somewhat greater distance from the axle.

Consequently, a 1.6 - 2 lbs. lighter front tire will give you the same handling improvement that you get by switching from an aluminum to a magnesium wheel.

Looking at it another way, you can negate the handling benefits of expensive light weight wheels by switching to a heavier tire.

This is also the best argument for choosing aftermarket wheels that have carbon fiber rims. When compared to all-magnesium wheels with the same weight, a carbon fiber rimmed wheel will have significantly lower rotational inertia that results in improved acceleration and handling.

(The similar construction of rear tires results in weight savings of less than a pound so you'll see a lesser improvement effect there.)

I'm not saying that tires should be chosen based on weight alone but given the very similar performance of high performance street tires, why not take the free mag wheel?

FROSTY
1st April 2008, 23:21
As far as I know, you cant use carbon fibre wheels racing in NZ, except maybe in clubmans
wanna show me where that generic rule is ?
might be ther for the proddy classes

johnsv650
2nd April 2008, 07:25
carbon fibre wheels are allowed in f3 .......

HDTboy
2nd April 2008, 09:14
Codgyoldracer, has a set of Dymags on his SV, and he wins races. I think it's the wheels which are his secret formula

stanko
2nd April 2008, 09:33
As far as I know, you cant use carbon fibre wheels racing in NZ, except maybe in clubmans

Wheels are open in Pre 82 although somebody would spit the dummy
Carbon wheels are ok for buckets too, but could easily exceed the value of the rest of the bike

Kickaha
3rd April 2008, 05:32
Wheels are open in Pre 82 although somebody would spit the dummy


Wheels are open but carbon fibre is banned in pre82

25-2-3 Replica parts, major or otherwise may be used in any proportion provided that they are
true and faithful copies of original components made to original dimensions from the
materials originally specified. In the event of originally specified materials being
unobtainable, then the materials used must be as near to those originally specified.
Carbon-fibre and Kevlar components, major or not, are prohibited.