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Jekkyl
27th March 2008, 16:38
So I pull up to Tristram ave lights 10-15mins ago, filter to the front of the huge line of cars. Light goes green and normally I would take a quick glance and zoom off, well for some reason I took an extra look, not sure if I heard the guy or not but a black RX7(i think, maybe a mx6) came screaming through what would of been a solid red light at I guess 70-80 Kmh.
:Oi:

If I hadn't of hesitated for that split second to take that second look they would of been picking pieces of me out of this guys front bumber and off the road.

Just needed to get it off my chest, wish I had followed the damn bastard now. I think the worst part about people who run reds is they speed up to get through so if/when they do hit someone they are hitting them at one hell of a speed!!

Anyone else had close calls with red light runners like this?

Mom
27th March 2008, 16:41
Nice spidey sense at work mate, well done!

Unit
27th March 2008, 16:41
Fortunately no, but hell, sometimes our instincts are freaky arent they. Couldnt think of much worse than this situation. Are these lights equipped with Road Control Camera's by any chance? If you know what time it happened, they may be able to retrieve the footage, would be good to get a warning issued to the bum :spanking:

PrincessBandit
27th March 2008, 16:42
Great to hear you took those seconds to save your life. Always a pleasure to hear when someone's survival skills count in a close shave.
(Am sure you meant his bumper, not bumber, btw) :laugh:
Red light runners - see 'em all the time in Auckland. Keep those eyes peeled and ears open friend.

Pussy
27th March 2008, 16:45
During the last 12 months I have noticed more red light runners in NP too. A green to me means "wait for a bit to see what wanker is ignoring their red light". Seems it's becoming more "acceptable"

McDuck
27th March 2008, 17:16
If i was a cop i would do red lights all the time. (as in patrol them not run them)

BadCompany
27th March 2008, 17:36
If i was a cop i would do red lights all the time. (as in patrol them not run them)

If I was a cop I would drop kick every cunt in the teeth who didn't f*cking indicate.

Headbanger
27th March 2008, 17:38
If I were a cop I'd be loaded with drugs and surrounded by whores.

And probably up on gun charges...


But yeah, Beware the lights.

MIXONE
27th March 2008, 17:51
If I were a cop I'd be loaded with drugs and surrounded by whores.

And probably up on gun charges...


But yeah, Beware the lights.

Or Assistant Commissioner:Police::2guns::drinkup::buggerd:

Motu
27th March 2008, 18:38
I've seen a few bikes run red lights,so figured it's not a big deal.Bikes are so fast it doesn't matter eh?

discotex
27th March 2008, 18:46
If you pull away from the lights without pausing to look both ways in Auckland you are bound to get hit sooner or later.

Seems lately the amount of time after the red that people will risk running is increasing. It had dropped a bit after xmas when there were threats of tickets in the paper but it's getting worse again now that people realise nothing will happen to them.

I'm sorely tempted to buy a shitty old cage, get 3rd party and gas it as soon as the light goes green and ram the fuckers :spanking:

aroberts
27th March 2008, 18:55
I've seen it a few times in Auckland lately. Mostly in the city around Fanshaw street. I always look both ways before taking off at green lights.

I agree with discotex. It would be so easy to get taken out by Auckland red light runners.

Monsterbishi
27th March 2008, 19:19
Should be interesting to see how the new red light camera units affect this issue, the housings that they mount in are smoked/tinted so that you have no way of telling whether it's in there or not.

Swoop
27th March 2008, 19:24
What you see when you don't have a camera or a gun...

paturoa
27th March 2008, 20:04
Yep its definetly got worse in the last few weeks.

The worst for me on my daily commute is the Titirangi Road / Gt North Road intersection when I'm heading to the city. The aholes turning right from Rata onto Gt North are the runners. Sometimes you have to wait up to 5 seconds on a green light before heading off.

Try driving up Khyber Pass after 4pm and there is a dude there with a video camera and a cash register, getting people driving in the bus lane.

Ever seen someone at an intersection with a video camera????

Neon
27th March 2008, 20:18
So I pull up to Tristram ave lights 10-15mins ago...

That intersection is a shocker for red light runners. :2guns: On a good day you'll see at least one every phase. I guess all you can do at the moment is anticicipate (like you have) and try not to be collected :angry2:

toycollector10
27th March 2008, 20:27
If you are number one to get off the mark always look right, then look left, then look right again. Do this as the lights are in AMBER for the lane that has the right of way. You can check this by moving up a bit and looking at their light colour. It gives you an overview of what is happening at the intersection. And as you are moving off, check your left again. Works every time. Stay safe!!!!!!!!

discotex
27th March 2008, 20:58
If you're splitting up between a set of two lanes to a red light and it goes green when you're a car or two back DO NOT gas it so you lead through the intersection. Leaves you no time (or visibility due to the cages) to check for red runners.

Better plan is to fall in behind the front car on either side then split past them after the intersection. If anyone gets taken out it'll be the cages not you.

Filter_nz
27th March 2008, 21:06
pfft!! Last night on my way home from a late shift I got a green and took a second extra to get going as I was in a day (9pm at night) dream and a muffi cop ran the red!!! I followed him all the way from Plimmerton-Porirua to the Paraparaumu police station. Was doing 105-120km/h the whole way, passing without indicating!! Couldn't believe it. I got all the details, car model and plate... not sure if I'll bother with a complaint becuase the truth is it will fall on deaf ears... odds are he'll get my details and wait for me on my daily commute and be a pick... funny thing is next year running a red will get you 75 demerits... that cop will be driving a desk at that rate.

Jekkyl
27th March 2008, 21:35
If you are number one to get off the mark always look right, then look left, then look right again. Do this as the lights are in AMBER for the lane that has the right of way. You can check this by moving up a bit and looking at their light colour. It gives you an overview of what is happening at the intersection. And as you are moving off, check your left again. Works every time. Stay safe!!!!!!!!

Pretty much exaclty what I did.

People running reds isn't really a new thing but this was just so damn close for me. I was up front, had been sitting there about 1 min watched the lights go orange got ready to zip off on the green, looked right and left started to take off.....and then for some reason I actually stopped and looked right again and this prick roars through.

Must of been a good 3-4 secs after they went green for me that he came through so it wasn't like he ran a orange light it would of been solid red.

barty5
27th March 2008, 22:16
constellation drive turing up to the new police station the cops do it all the time now lights go orange when they are a good 100 mtrs out from lights dont enen try to stop just sail round the corner which is fully red before they get there i only live 300mtr further up the road so see this nearly every second day. Of course there are some who flick on the lights if they are red just so every one has to stop to let them through just so they can get back to the station with out stopin.

Bren
27th March 2008, 22:16
would be good to get a warning issued to the bum :spanking:

Just a warning...man give the bastard a ticket.


During the last 12 months I have noticed more red light runners in NP too. A green to me means "wait for a bit to see what wanker is ignoring their red light". Seems it's becoming more "acceptable"
Good advice....


If I was a cop I would drop kick every cunt in the teeth who didn't f*cking indicate.
Yup....funny thing was I was going down pages Rd today (CHCH) and this prick pulled out straight in front of me from a gas station...he wasnt indicating and I had to slam on the anchors....and a cop saw the whole thing....copper just kept on driving by. Not even 500 meters down the road a bitch in a red hatchback pulled out in front of me from the softball grounds..Emergency braking test #2...Oh...I was in a cage so think they shoulda seen me. NZ Drivers are fucking pathetic!


I've seen a few bikes run red lights,so figured it's not a big deal.Bikes are so fast it doesn't matter eh?
What sort of attitude is that? Cos it stinks!


If you are number one to get off the mark always look right, then look left, then look right again. Do this as the lights are in AMBER for the lane that has the right of way. You can check this by moving up a bit and looking at their light colour. It gives you an overview of what is happening at the intersection. And as you are moving off, check your left again. Works every time. Stay safe!!!!!!!!

Yup...I agree with ya!


pfft!! Last night on my way home from a late shift I got a green and took a second extra to get going as I was in a day (9pm at night) dream and a muffi cop ran the red!!! I followed him all the way from Plimmerton-Porirua to the Paraparaumu police station. Was doing 105-120km/h the whole way, passing without indicating!! Couldn't believe it. I got all the details, car model and plate... not sure if I'll bother with a complaint becuase the truth is it will fall on deaf ears... odds are he'll get my details and wait for me on my daily commute and be a pick... funny thing is next year running a red will get you 75 demerits... that cop will be driving a desk at that rate.

Bloody put the complaint in!

Robbo
27th March 2008, 22:27
Just a thought here, but could the lights be programed so that when one direction goes from amber and then onto red, then they have a built in delay of say 10 seconds before the other direction gets their green light to proceed?
This would mean that any red light runners would have passed through the intersection and would probably avoid a collision.
Too simple i guess so probably won't happen.

howdamnhard
27th March 2008, 22:36
Good idea,except people would cotton on to it and just run the red lights for up to 10 seconds longer.


Just a thought here, but could the lights be programed so that when one direction goes from amber and then onto red, then they have a built in delay of say 10 seconds before the other direction gets their green light to proceed?
This would mean that any red light runners would have passed through the intersection and would probably avoid a collision.
Too simple i guess so probably won't happen.

rwh
27th March 2008, 22:42
Just a thought here, but could the lights be programed so that when one direction goes from amber and then onto red, then they have a built in delay of say 10 seconds before the other direction gets their green light to proceed?
This would mean that any red light runners would have passed through the intersection and would probably avoid a collision.
Too simple i guess so probably won't happen.

Sure. For about a day. Then the red light runners just get to know that they have 10 seconds longer (and will have to wait for 10 seconds doing absolutely nothing but stew if they do stop). I'd rather see slightly longer oranges (so there's absolutely no excuse for running the red), with about half a second gap between the red and the opposing green - and cameras, with big fines.

Richard

Kirill357
27th March 2008, 22:53
Heh, happened once when I was with my FXR150, at night crossing Quay street near Foodtown. Green light, I had a habbit to open full throttle after a change of light, so off I go, but all of a sudden, never happened before, my bike coughs, a bit slows down, my reaction - damn, service needed, and just 1 meter in front of me from the left van running red on about 60-70km. Damn, someone looked after me that night.

Swoop
28th March 2008, 11:32
pfft!! Last night on my way home from a late shift I got a green and took a second extra to get going as I was in a day (9pm at night) dream and a muffi cop ran the red!!! I followed him all the way from Plimmerton-Porirua to the Paraparaumu police station. Was doing 105-120km/h the whole way, passing without indicating!! Couldn't believe it. I got all the details, car model and plate... not sure if I'll bother with a complaint becuase the truth is it will fall on deaf ears... odds are he'll get my details and wait for me on my daily commute and be a pick... funny thing is next year running a red will get you 75 demerits... that cop will be driving a desk at that rate.
Report it. Shit driving is still shit driving, no matter who is at the wheel.

borg
28th March 2008, 11:41
So I pull up to Tristram ave lights 10-15mins ago

See them all the time especially when I'm waiting to go onto Nelson street from the NW Motorway. They're always running through that intersection particularly from the left (Union St). I wouldn't call them close calls for me, cause I'm always on hyper watch for them whatever intersection I'm going through.

Livvy
28th March 2008, 11:45
Red light runners fuck me off no end. Walking to school in the mornings I cross Victoria St in Hamilton CBD, and every morning I wait for a second when the crossing turns green because some cunt always runs the red. If I didn't, you'd have been picking me out of bumpers numerous times.

I'm sorely tempted to take a notepad with me in the mornings, write down the licence plates and hand them into the police each afternoon when I get off.

borg
28th March 2008, 11:58
Sure. For about a day. Then the red light runners just get to know that they have 10 seconds longer (and will have to wait for 10 seconds doing absolutely nothing but stew if they do stop). I'd rather see slightly longer oranges (so there's absolutely no excuse for running the red), with about half a second gap between the red and the opposing green - and cameras, with big fines.

Richard

Perhaps counters like the ones in Queen Street... so there's no guessing the period of time that the orange will be lit, then if you cross the line when it's red, you're ticketed... no excuses, no ambiguity, and none of this police crap like it went red when you reached the middle of the intersection.

Ixion
28th March 2008, 11:59
What they want is a honking big steel barrier at all lights that swings up when the lights go red.

borg
28th March 2008, 12:01
What they want is a honking big steel barrier at all lights that swings up when the lights go red.

Snipers perhaps?

Ixion
28th March 2008, 12:01
With spikes. I bet then that people would find that they could stop for the orange after all.

vifferman
28th March 2008, 12:02
With spikes. I bet then that people would find that they could stop for the orange after all.
Hey!!
That's my idea: the road spikes that pop up on a red light. Red light runners would learn VERY quickly.

Pwalo
28th March 2008, 13:03
Look I know what. Why don't we make it illegal. That'll stop people doing it.

Jekkyl
28th March 2008, 13:23
Look I know what. Why don't we make it illegal. That'll stop people doing it.

Top plan! Oh wait..........

We should give the:Police: :2guns:

devnull
28th March 2008, 13:36
Top plan! Oh wait..........

We should give the:Police: :2guns:

Nah... It's us that need the :2guns:
No need to bother the :Police:

BiK3RChiK
28th March 2008, 13:38
No good for emergency service vehicles though... Red light cameras should automatically be installed on busy intersections IMO and tickets issued promptly with no excuses accepted!

rwh
28th March 2008, 13:44
Perhaps counters like the ones in Queen Street... so there's no guessing the period of time that the orange will be lit, then if you cross the line when it's red, you're ticketed... no excuses, no ambiguity, and none of this police crap like it went red when you reached the middle of the intersection.

Didn't know they had counters, but I was thinking of something similar. Numbers can be hard to read - I was thinking of something that looks like a moving pie chart - starts all green, then the orange sector sweeps round over say 5 seconds till it's all orange, at which point it switches to red. That might be too hard to see too, though.

Richard

borg
28th March 2008, 13:50
Didn't know they had counters, but I was thinking of something similar. Numbers can be hard to read - I was thinking of something that looks like a moving pie chart - starts all green, then the orange sector sweeps round over say 5 seconds till it's all orange, at which point it switches to red. That might be too hard to see too, though.

Richard

Sorry, I forgot to mention those counters are for pedestrians only... but a similar or identical concept to that could be used for traffic to good effect I imagine.

Livvy
28th March 2008, 13:55
Sorry, I forgot to mention those counters are for pedestrians only... but a similar or identical concept to that could be used for traffic to good effect I imagine.
Could do.

I've had people suggest I go out and buy spikes, throw them down when the light turns red and the pedestrian crossing goes green and say it was an accident when Mr Big-Ego Business Man thinks he's too good for the red, and when Mrs I-Gotta-Make-Sure-My-Brats-Get-To-School in her SUV can't wait for her green loose their front tyres.

PrincessBandit
28th March 2008, 16:04
Hey!!
That's my idea: the road spikes that pop up on a red light. Red light runners would learn VERY quickly.

Not it's not, it's mine mine all mine. (:laugh:) Twas the first thing that crossed my mind when I started reading, but both you and Ixion beat me to it.
I think it would be a great idea, but then there'd be bound to be some retard who would compromise it somehow (just like computer hacker shits) just to revel in the mayhem they'd cause (or "just because we could"). Not to mention all the goody goody's who would jump up and down that you couldn't possibly punish them like that - they might hurt themselves if their car lost control on all it's punctured tyres. Boo frickity hoo to them, suck on lemons and all that....

jrandom
28th March 2008, 16:11
suck on lemons...

While we're on the subject, last night I tried slicing lemons fairly thickly and baking salmon steaks under them with a fair amount of raw sugar sprinkled over the top.

I didn't wrap it in foil, because there wasn't any left in the drawer.

Try it sometime! It was delicious. Avoid putting any oil on it; just bake it dry and crispy (I kinda spoiled it with olive oil last night, but that's what experimenting's like). Probably a good idea to sit the salmon on a bit of greaseproof paper in the baking dish, too.

Goes very well with spinach wilted in a hot pan, a slice of fresh ciabatta and the Marlborough sauvignon blanc of your choice.

:niceone:

ManDownUnder
28th March 2008, 16:15
Thanks for that report from 3rd Base Dan... now over some someone in right field...

While we're on the subject, last night I tried slicing lemons fairly thickly and baking salmon steaks under them with a fair amount of raw sugar sprinkled over the top.

I didn't wrap it in foil, because there wasn't any left in the drawer.

Try it sometime! It was delicious. Avoid putting any oil on it; just bake it dry and crispy (I kinda spoiled it with olive oil last night, but that's what experimenting's like). Probably a good idea to sit the salmon on a bit of greaseproof paper in the baking dish, too.

Goes very well with spinach wilted in a hot pan, a slice of fresh ciabatta and the Marlborough sauvignon blanc of your choice.

:niceone:

Patrick
28th March 2008, 16:17
Perhaps counters like the ones in Queen Street... so there's no guessing the period of time that the orange will be lit, then if you cross the line when it's red, you're ticketed... no excuses, no ambiguity, and none of this police crap like it went red when you reached the middle of the intersection.

Here in the Naki they have a video for this. Every "excuse" is, usually, "it was orange." That is, until they see the video.... solid red before they enter... Those half way through when it then turns red aren't the problem.


During the last 12 months I have noticed more red light runners in NP too. A green to me means "wait for a bit to see what wanker is ignoring their red light". Seems it's becoming more "acceptable"

Nope. Not here in the Naki.... Have access to video footage to prove it. Some of it just makes you cringe, waiting for the bang from those moving off on the greens....

jrandom
28th March 2008, 16:17
Thanks for that report from 3rd Base Dan... now over some someone in right field...

Yeah, it'll go to PD, but it's a shame, because it's so tasty and so easy to prepare!

ManDownUnder
28th March 2008, 16:26
Yeah, it'll go to PD, but it's a shame, because it's so tasty and so easy to prepare!

You talking steaks or porridge?

Ixion
28th March 2008, 16:27
While we're on the subject, last night I tried slicing lemons fairly thickly and baking salmon steaks under them with a fair amount of raw sugar sprinkled over the top.

I didn't wrap it in foil, because there wasn't any left in the drawer.

Try it sometime! It was delicious. Avoid putting any oil on it; just bake it dry and crispy (I kinda spoiled it with olive oil last night, but that's what experimenting's like). Probably a good idea to sit the salmon on a bit of greaseproof paper in the baking dish, too.

Goes very well with spinach wilted in a hot pan, a slice of fresh ciabatta and the Marlborough sauvignon blanc of your choice.

:niceone:

Bah. I don't like sauvignon blanc. Heathen . Burn him !

jrandom
28th March 2008, 16:32
You talking steaks or porridge?

Steaks.

The fishy ones.

(She's saying 'holy mackerel', I'm thinking tuna on the side...)

Patrick
28th March 2008, 16:49
Is the count down to PD on yet??????

Anyone taking bets??????

ManDownUnder
28th March 2008, 16:56
Steaks.

The fishy ones.

(She's saying 'holy mackerel', I'm thinking tuna on the side...)

Am I allowed to mention whales and blowholes?

PrincessBandit
28th March 2008, 17:45
While we're on the subject, last night I tried slicing lemons fairly thickly and baking salmon steaks under them with a fair amount of raw sugar sprinkled over the top.

I didn't wrap it in foil, because there wasn't any left in the drawer.

Try it sometime! It was delicious. Avoid putting any oil on it; just bake it dry and crispy (I kinda spoiled it with olive oil last night, but that's what experimenting's like). Probably a good idea to sit the salmon on a bit of greaseproof paper in the baking dish, too.

Goes very well with spinach wilted in a hot pan, a slice of fresh ciabatta and the Marlborough sauvignon blanc of your choice.

:niceone:

Sounds lovely, i'm salivating (not so lovely)

discotex
29th March 2008, 16:42
What we need are these at every set of traffic lights:

aYdH08zzRCU

Pussy
29th March 2008, 16:47
What we need are these at every set of traffic lights:

aYdH08zzRCU

Shit yes!! These would sort the smartarses out!! Very good

discotex
29th March 2008, 16:50
Shit yes!! These would sort the smartarses out!! Very good

First saw that vid about a year ago but it amazes me every time. There's a freaking baby in the back of that SUV and the impact was enough to set off the air-bags.

All that effort to avoid paying the congestion charge or to use a bus/courier/bike only piece of road when they could just drive around the block. Morons...

discotex
29th March 2008, 16:59
Seems the dutch have proven that cars can wheelie..

This one is even better as it has traffic lights fitted with rising bollards.

This one had me in stiches :lol:

4ZdLjKl0lHc

PrincessBandit
29th March 2008, 17:04
Ha ha ha ha ha, trust the Dutch! Something else they can add to their dodgy doings! Do they get fined as well as having to cough up for the repair bills?

Jekkyl
31st March 2008, 07:08
I know it shouldn't, but it still amazes me just how stupid some people are.:stupid:

scumdog
31st March 2008, 07:18
I know it shouldn't, but it still amazes me just how stupid some people are.:stupid:

Not me - I am only suprised we don't see more examples on TV.

Bring something in like those bollards and the "You-can't-do-that-because-you-might-hurt-somebody" screamers would have a fit.

But I love the idea, it lets motrcyclist run red lights with impunity!!!!!!!!!

Patrick
31st March 2008, 09:50
Am I allowed to mention whales and blowholes?

Fat girls bums???