one small thought...

[JohnBoy]

We all know that around this time of year money is very scarce and i am no exception. the reg and warrent ran out early last month and there is just no money left in my budget for updating it. either though i have the intention to buy a WOF reg seems another matter.
the last time i heard the fine for no reg was $200. hmmm... this got me thinking, isn't reg something like $250-260?? i know that this would caruse an issue for you all who live in the city but out here their an't no traffic wardens so me thinks i can get a way with it.

tell me is this a silly thought or am i onto something??

P.S i am aware of most insurance conditions. :shifty:

[Cajun]

We all know that around this time of year money is very scarce and i am no exception. the reg and warrent ran out early last month and there is just no money left in my budget for updating it. either though i have the intention to buy a WOF reg seems another matter.
the last time i heard the fine for no reg was $200. hmmm... this got me thinking, isn't reg something like $250-260?? i know that this would caruse an issue for you all who live in the city but out here their an't no traffic wardens so me thinks i can get a way with it.

tell me is this a silly thought or am i onto something??

P.S i am aware of most insurance conditions. :shifty:
wofs normal $30-$40 dollars as long nothing wrong
regs you can do for 3 months so its not huge somethin glike $60 or something silly like that for 3 months i did that for a whole yet being a student reg for for 3 months all the time all the month i had

[Coyote]

If its a $200 fine, What if they catch you twice? You'll be losing there

[Kendog]

Crash an unregistered bike and see what the insurance compancy says :shit:

[Slingshot]

Maybe it's a question of priorities.





Full Arrow exhaust or Reg & WOF?

[Deano]

Crash an unregistered bike and see what the insurance compancy says :shit:

Was it the fact the bike was unregistered that caused the crash - Ive said it before but I wrote off an unwarranted bike and was paid out in full - unless the rules have changed or there is a difference between insurance companies.

FFS - they pay out for stupidity so how is this any different ?

[カワサキキド]

The WoF that I got on Monday only cost me $20 from a bike shop, and they did it straight away, while I waited, fast too.

Get the Reg NOW! you will have to pay for it sooner or later, why bother worrying about it.

Cancel Christmas, and put all the money you save into mods for the bike.

[sAsLEX]

nah go the whole each person in the family buys one gift for one other. ie 15 in the family 15 gifts, means you get less crappy or unneeded gifts at christmas and everyone saves!

and all the spare money can be for gifts like tyres and exhausts!!

[Kendog]

Was it the fact the bike was unregistered that caused the crash - Ive said it before but I wrote off an unwarranted bike and was paid out in full - unless the rules have changed or there is a difference between insurance companies.

FFS - they pay out for stupidity so how is this any different ?

I have not experienced this personally, just my cynical view on insurance companies.
I would have thought they would jump at the chance to not pay out.

[JohnBoy]

Maybe it's a question of priorities.
Full Arrow exhaust or Reg & WOF?


Yep... you got me there.

[AMPS]

Isn't it $400 for unlicenced vehicle? I doubt that the Govt wouldn't have worked that one out.
Lou

[JohnBoy]

Isn't it $400 for unlicenced vehicle? I doubt that the Govt wouldn't have worked that one out.
Lou

i thought it was 200 no reg and 200 no wof = 400 total.
this is why i started this thread as i am not sure, i just thought id be sneaky! :sly:

[Sniper]

i thought it was 200 no reg and 200 no wof = 400 total.
this is why i started this thread as i am not sure, i just thought id be sneaky! :sly:

Yep it is $200 per offence so the total will be $400.

[Slingshot]

Yep it is $200 per offence so the total will be $400.
Dead right, the thing is...if you're caught you get the fine, you still have to pay up for the registration and WOF though.

So if you're caught, it'll be $400 worth of fines, plus what ever the cost of the Reg & WOF.

[aff-man]

$25 bucks for a WOF and not much more for 3 months reg (looking at abouts $100 total) i'd say it's worth it, it'll cover you for summer anyway :Punk:

[scumdog]

WOF and 3 months reg paid up is a whole lot cheaper than one ticket!!

Also I have known of insurance refusing to pay up 'cos the car did not have a WOF, you can take your chances on that if you want but give you ins. co. a call to find out.

[spudchucka]

Isn't it $400 for unlicenced vehicle? I doubt that the Govt wouldn't have worked that one out.
Lou
No WOF = $200
Unlicensed vehicle = $200

But burglars get to do a little bit of community gardening work for their evil doings, I've never been able to figure that one out!

[Sparky Bills]

Maybe it's a question of priorities.





Full Arrow exhaust or Reg & WOF?



Slingshot has a very good point buddy!
Stop with the wankie shit and get your bike legal! :angry2:
Ill still be able to beat you with or without the pipe on the track! :finger:

[Racey Rider]

Get the WoF. $25 cost - could save you $200 fine, or maybe even your life!!

If you don't want to get the Reg, Ask yourself,

How often do I ride? How often am I out there risking getting pulled over?
How do I ride? Do I do the things that draw the cops attention to pull me over?
If I do get the signal to pull over, am I going to pull over and take the extra fine from no reg + the pull over offence? or will I do a runner, putting myself and others at more risk?
Do I have Insurance? Will they pay out if I had no Reg?

Now if I was considering this option, I would think. I don't road ride much, don't have insurance, and try not to do the things that get you pulled over. For Me, the risk is on the low side that I would get pulled up and have to pay a extra $200 for no Reg.

For someone with plenty of money, even my low risk example would be too risky. + to carry the guilt.

But for YOU, the risk factor may be quite different.

[avgas]

sometime your gonna have to pay for the reg for now buddy, cos otherwise when they catch u they force u to reg now within 6 months. Neighbour got done cos his bonnie hadnt had reg for 4 years. so he had to pay 5 years rego or something as well as the fine, otherwise the cops take the bike.
If ur not gonna ride that much dereg it. :shifty:

[StoneChucker]

I find that the amount of times you are stopped for a wof/reg check, is inversely proportional to the "currentness" of your wof and reg (ie lots of time left, few stops, little time left or more importantly - no time left, lots of stops)

It's a simple questions of mathematics, which ironically can be used to add up your fines aswell! :pinch:

This is ofcourse all theoretical speculation, I'm a good boy I am :o

[Bob]

Was it the fact the bike was unregistered that caused the crash - Ive said it before but I wrote off an unwarranted bike and was paid out in full - unless the rules have changed or there is a difference between insurance companies.

FFS - they pay out for stupidity so how is this any different ?

To prove a claim, there has to be a chain of events that all lead to the accident. It is known as "Proximate Cause". For example, if you fell off a bike, landed in a cold, wet ditch and after some hours were found and taken to hospital, developed pneumonia and died, there is proximate cause. It is reasonable to assume that the pneumonia was caused by the time in the cold, wet ditch.

However, if the same happened, but you came down with scarlet fever and died, then there is not proximate cause. Scarlet fever is not contracted in this way.

Being an unregistered bike does not, in itself, cause the accident.

However, if the bike is unregistered and does not have the relevent certificate that says it is fit to use on the road, then the insurance policy is invalidated for the simple reason that legally, it is not fit for road use.

Any insurer with their head screwed on should automatically reject a claim - if a vehicle has to have certification of road worthiness, then the absence of such means that it has not been checked and approved by the relevent body, so there is no way of knowing whether it meets with legal standards.

Case closed, riding with no reg, no roadworthiness certification and therefore no valid insurance. That little lot should equate to a short stay being Big Rex's 'bitch' in the slammer...

[Slingshot]

However, if the bike is unregistered and does not have the relevent certificate that says it is fit to use on the road, then the insurance policy is invalidated for the simple reason that legally, it is not fit for road use.

Any insurer with their head screwed on should automatically reject a claim - if a vehicle has to have certification of road worthiness, then the absence of such means that it has not been checked and approved by the relevent body, so there is no way of knowing whether it meets with legal standards.
This is not quite right, I crashed my car a couple of years back, it didn't have a WOF. I was even behind on my insurance payments.
The insurance payed out as it was deemed that the cause of the accident wasn't something that would have failed the WOF inspection.

If I had lost control in the wet and then crashed and my tires were bald then the insurance wouldn't have payed out.

I believe they changed to these rules ages ago, imagine your un-WOFed bike parked on the side of the road, someone knocks it over yet continues driving...no WOF would have equaled no insurance...

Anyway...if you're not sure...ring your insurance company...policies differ!

[Bob]

This is not quite right, I crashed my car a couple of years back, it didn't have a WOF. I was even behind on my insurance payments.
The insurance payed out as it was deemed that the cause of the accident wasn't something that would have failed the WOF inspection.

If I had lost control in the wet and then crashed and my tires were bald then the insurance wouldn't have payed out.

I believe they changed to these rules ages ago, imagine your un-WOFed bike parked on the side of the road, someone knocks it over yet continues driving...no WOF would have equaled no insurance...

Anyway...if you're not sure...ring your insurance company...policies differ!

All I can say is - your insurers are far more relaxed than ours! Over here, we have an MOT (same or at least similar to your WOF). Without that, a bike cannot be on the road, as you cannot renew your road tax. You also have to be insured (and have proof of a valid policy) to get your road tax renewed.

There is also a significant difference between a bike parked up and one being ridden. A parked up bike could still be "off the road" (in the UK, we have to declare bikes that are being taken off the road) - and therefore, no need for MOT/WOF or whatever. It still classes as property and if it is insured, then if it was hit, then a claim is made against the insured value.

BUT... ride a bike without legally required certificates? Over here, that is firm grounds for not paying out. An insurer here can refuse to pay out if you've modifed the bike (eg. stuck on replacement end can) without telling them. So riding without documentation required by law? You can wave your claim goodbye!

The only time we're allowed to ride a bike that is not currently taxed (or MOT'd for that matter) on the road is if we are taking it to the MOT centre to get a certificate of roadworthiness. You still need insurance to go out on the road of course.

As regards your car crash - glad you got a payout. But of course, often with a car, it is easier to check. A bike gets splattered and often there isn't much bike left to check! I'm quite surprised they agreed to pay for a vehicle that, technically speaking, was not road legal though. As they did, then there was not a proximate cause between being non-WOF'd and the incident, so they'd not have grounds to link the two.

[JohnBoy]

Ill still be able to beat you with or without the pipe on the track! :finger:

Thats still to be decided.... :shifty:

[scumdog]

I find that the amount of times you are stopped for a wof/reg check, is inversely proportional to the "currentness" of your wof and reg (ie lots of time left, few stops, little time left or more importantly - no time left, lots of stops)

It's a simple questions of mathematics, which ironically can be used to add up your fines aswell! :pinch:

This is ofcourse all theoretical speculation, I'm a good boy I am :o

It is also inversely proportional to the KNOWLEDGE that your wof and/or reg is out, years ago when I KNEW my wof/reg was out you could put money on me getting pulled over and pinged, however there was a time or two when I blithely roamed around for a month or two before noticing my wof and/or reg was out and never got pinged. :spudwhat:

[idb]

sometime your gonna have to pay for the reg for now buddy, cos otherwise when they catch u they force u to reg now within 6 months.


If, when you renew your rego and it is past the date that the old one ran out, you have to effectively backdate your payment to that date.
Why, then, should you get fined for no rego. If you have to backdate your payment to cover the intervening time how can it be said that your rego has run out, you could be just intending to renew it later.

[spudchucka]

If, when you renew your rego and it is past the date that the old one ran out, you have to effectively backdate your payment to that date.
Why, then, should you get fined for no rego. If you have to backdate your payment to cover the intervening time how can it be said that your rego has run out, you could be just intending to renew it later.
The offence isn't for having an unregistered vehicle, (there is however an offence for this), the ticket is for using an unlicensed motor vehicle. It is an offence to use a motor vehcile with an expired licence label.

[Sparky Bills]

Thats still to be decided.... :shifty:


You and I both know how it will end. :headbang:
Missed out on a good ride (coast to coast) this weekend bro!
YOU BEST BE COMING NEXT YEAR!!

[JohnBoy]

ok. this is how it stands, wof is going on this weekend, reg.. well maybe, see how much money i have. but i will be going down to the boxing day races so i will be getting reg sooner rather than later.
Cheers