How far is that? A Supernova

[Edbear]

For anyone interested in space, I was listening to the wireless last night and they had an Astronomer on talking about the burst of Gamma rays that hit Earth on the 19th. When they pinpointed where it came from it was from a Supernova, 7.5 billion lightyears away! That of course, means it's taken 7.5 billion years, at the speed of light for us to be able to see it.

Ergo, stating the bleeding obvious, the Supernova happened 7.5 billion years ago!

Now what's more amazing, is that he said that in good night-time conditions, ie. no light pollution, we'd be able to just see it with the naked eye! So our tiny little eyeballs can see an explosion, admittedly a rather large explosion, 7.5 billion lightyears away! Cool or what?

[Ixion]

Quiet! Or next thing you know GiJoe will be heading off there on his Hornet. Only thing that'd stop him is lack of petrol stations along the way.

[gijoe1313]

Quiet! Or next thing you know GiJoe will be heading off there on his Hornet. Only thing that'd stop him is lack of petrol stations along the way.

Tch! I highly resemble that statement :oi-grr: T'would be kewl to be an intergalactic biker, only prob would be everything out there trying to kill you like meteors "sorry! Didn't see you mate!" I'd have to have McJim pull me out of a black hole I slid down ... wait for a solar flare to die down before pulling out to beat a comet and then helping some ETs to change their dilithium crystal transmorgifier ...

Would hate to be half way into the pootle and think "did I leave the iron on..." :innocent:

But yeah 'tis kewl, mind bending some of the concepts it is when you think about it...

[Mental Trousers]

Put your life into perspective at all??

[enigma51]

Whats more amazing is the fact that you are actualy looking at the past cause it would have taken 7.5 billion years for the light to get to earth!

(My astronamy and physics is a bit old but I think thats right)

[Steam]

And how about Saturn eh, there's a GIANT HEXAGON at the north pole of Saturn, a freaking 25000km wide geometric shape.

http://www.foxnews.com/images/272841/0_61_saturn_hexagon.jpg

Hexagon!

[Mikkel]

Super novas are pretty cool.

But Quasars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasar) are even more mind boggling.

[henry]

Got any more info? My Dad has a fuck off big telescope. Wouldn't mind taking a look if I knew where.

[Mikkel]

And how about Saturn eh, there's a GIANT HEXAGON at the north pole of Saturn, a freaking 25000km wide geometric shape.

Yes yes, it's a big conspiracy. Stay of the absinthe mate!

You can observe near-perfect symmetry (e.g. geometrical shapes) everywhere in nature if you look close enough...

[Tank]

Got any more info? My Dad has a fuck off big telescope. Wouldn't mind taking a look if I knew where.

wait until dark.

Then look up.

[Edbear]

Got any more info? My Dad has a fuck off big telescope. Wouldn't mind taking a look if I knew where.

No, but you could check out Nat. Radio's website or call them and ask. Or perhaps the Auck observatory?

[Steam]

Got any more info? My Dad has a fuck off big telescope. Wouldn't mind taking a look if I knew where.


No, but you could check out Nat. Radio's website or call them and ask. Or perhaps the Auck observatory?

You can't see it any more but it was visible for a few minutes if you knew the right place to look.
But since it was automatically detected and imaged by computers and satellite observatories, nobody actually saw it with the naked eye because by the time humans were told about it, it had faded to below what we can see with our unaided eyes.

[Edbear]

You can't see it any more but it was visible for a few minutes if you knew the right place to look.
But since it was automatically detected and imaged by computers and satellite observatories, nobody actually saw it with the naked eye because by the time humans were told about it, it had faded to below what we can see with our unaided eyes.


Ah, so my reading specs would be not much help then..:cool:

[borg]

7.5 billion lightyears away!

Assuming the calculations used here are correct to figure how far light travels in a year (and bear in mind this is done in miles, not km):

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061012163711AAvH7P6

186000 * 60 seconds * 60 minutes * 24 hours * 365.25 days = 5.87862537 × 10^12

or

186282.397 * 60 * 60 * 24 * 365.25 = 5878625371567.2 miles (light travels in one year)

...then you'd have to multiply that by 7.5 billion years (7,500,000,000)...

5878625371567.2 * 7500000000 = 44089690286754000000000 (4.40897E+22) miles away.

[MisterD]

If that's the sort of thing that floats yer boat then you wanna go here (http://hubblesite.org/gallery/album/). All the lovely photos ever taken by the Hubble Space Telemascope...

Sample:
http://imgsrc.hubblesite.org/hu/db/2002/24/images/a/formats/web.jpg

[Edbear]

Tch! I highly resemble that statement :oi-grr: T'would be kewl to be an intergalactic biker, only prob would be everything out there trying to kill you like meteors "sorry! Didn't see you mate!" I'd have to have McJim pull me out of a black hole I slid down ... wait for a solar flare to die down before pulling out to beat a comet and then helping some ETs to change their dilithium crystal transmorgifier ...

Would hate to be half way into the pootle and think "did I leave the iron on..." :innocent:

But yeah 'tis kewl, mind bending some of the concepts it is when you think about it...


Assuming the calculations used here are correct to figure how far light travels in a year (and bear in mind this is done in miles, not km):

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061012163711AAvH7P6

186000 * 60 seconds * 60 minutes * 24 hours * 365.25 days = 5.87862537 × 10^12

or

186282.397 * 60 * 60 * 24 * 365.25 = 5878625371567.2 miles (light travels in one year)

...then you'd have to multiply that by 7.5 billion years (7,500,000,000)...

5878625371567.2 * 7500000000 = 44089690286754000000000 (4.40897E+22) miles away.

So gijoe1313 would need to take a few spare pistons and extra fuel? Should be pretty easy on tyres, though...:done:

[Ixion]

A Hornet wouldn't make it that far. Only bike that could go that mileage without an engine rebuild is a maggot.

[Edbear]

A Hornet wouldn't make it that far. Only bike that could go that mileage without an engine rebuild is a maggot.


Eh..? Do please enlighten this poor soul...

[Edbear]

Oh, hang on, I think I get it...:2thumbsup

[gijoe1313]

A Hornet wouldn't make it that far. Only bike that could go that mileage without an engine rebuild is a maggot.

I need more elaboration! Please enlighten this poor nousless orphan waif and open his eyes to the glory and splendor that is a maggot bike!

And I would make sure I tow a couple of more engines behind ... coast along with inertia and stick a new donk in between galaxies and the intergalactic solar wind! :scratch:

[oldrider]

All that shit floating around out there undetected and we are obsessed with carbon credits etc! Yeah right! :wari: John.

[Steam]

I need more elaboration! Please enlighten this poor nousless orphan waif and open his eyes to the glory and splendor that is a maggot bike!

Behold a sight more astounding than the vast blackness of space, more dazzling than the sparkle of a supernova....
the new...
the revolutionary....
the astounding...

Honda CX500
Take a great leap forward into the 1980's!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CX_series
http://www.ebbo.org/my-old-bikes/Cx500.jpg
http://www.motorera.com/honda/h0500/cxc/cx500c-81.jpg
They were called plastic maggots because people reckoned they were really ugly. Fair enough too.
V-twins like Guzzi's, but the engine wasn't very pretty like a Guzzi, more like a lump of aluminium.

They are really really reliable, comfy, and irrationally cherished by their owners. There's a big long thread here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=27643) on KB devoted to CX's.

[Ixion]

When eventually the final heat death of the Universe arrives, and all other life is long extinct, there will still be one thing moving. A cockroach riding on a maggot.

[Zuki Bandit]

For anyone interested in space, I was listening to the wireless last night and they had an Astronomer on talking about the burst of Gamma rays that hit Earth on the 19th. When they pinpointed where it came from it was from a Supernova, 7.5 billion lightyears away! That of course, means it's taken 7.5 billion years, at the speed of light for us to be able to see it.

Ergo, stating the bleeding obvious, the Supernova happened 7.5 billion years ago!

Now what's more amazing, is that he said that in good night-time conditions, ie. no light pollution, we'd be able to just see it with the naked eye! So our tiny little eyeballs can see an explosion, admittedly a rather large explosion, 7.5 billion lightyears away! Cool or what?
Yeah it's bizzare, any of the stars that we see in the night sky may have imploded millions of light years ago. So we are really looking into the very distant past when we look up there.:cool:

[gijoe1313]

Behold a sight more astounding than the vast blackness of space, more dazzling than the sparkle of a supernova....
the new...
the revolutionary....
the astounding...

Honda CX500
Take a great leap forward into the 1980's!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CX_series
http://www.ebbo.org/my-old-bikes/Cx500.jpg
http://www.motorera.com/honda/h0500/cxc/cx500c-81.jpg
They were called plastic maggots because people reckoned they were really ugly. Fair enough too.
V-twins like Guzzi's, but the engine wasn't very pretty like a Guzzi, more like a lump of aluminium.

They are really really reliable, comfy, and irrationally cherished by their owners. There's a big long thread here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=27643) on KB devoted to CX's.


When eventually the final heat death of the Universe arrives, and all other life is long extinct, there will still be one thing moving. A cockroach riding on a maggot.

:not: Verily I have been enlightened, the years of ignorance and profane misunderstandings have been cast asunder! Not small the revelation! Great the epiphany! Truly, yea, I shall now aspire to undertake the investigation of this magnificent steed of irrationality.

It will carry me over the starry boundaries of space, break new time continuums and circumnavigate the space-ways and the by-ways of gravitic wells of slingshot stardom!

Transversing against the heat death wave of the end of the universe at the dining emporium equipped for such end times with a maggot beneath my loins will be a pootle to remember!

[Ixion]

Transversing against the heat death wave of the end of the universe at the dining emporium equipped for such end times with a maggot beneath my loins will be a pootle to remember!

If that revelation should become widely known I may confidently predict that your mother's search for a suitable and willing spouse will be unavailing!

[hazard02]

Put your life into perspective at all??

The hubble ultra-deep field should (http://www.jonathanminard.com/EarthSpace/Hubble_Ultra_Deep_Field_Black_point_edit.jpg) (linked for huge).



The Hubble Ultra Deep Field is an image of a small region of space in the constellation Fornax... It is the deepest image of the universe ever taken in visible light, looking back in time more than 13 billion years. The HUDF contains an estimated 10,000 galaxies[1]. The patch of sky in which the galaxies reside is just one-tenth the diameter of the full moon as viewed from Earth.

The universe is pretty fucking big.

[homer]

thats one cool pic

[oldrider]

The hubble ultra-deep field should (http://www.jonathanminard.com/EarthSpace/Hubble_Ultra_Deep_Field_Black_point_edit.jpg) (linked for huge).
The universe is pretty fucking big.

Global warming is man made, the insignificant sycophants on little planet earth have said so!

That pic puts all that into perspective really, the sky is definitely falling, chicken little has spoken! :tugger: (IMHO) John.

[Edbear]

Put your life into perspective at all??


Global warming is man made, the insignificant sycophants on little planet earth have said so!

That pic puts all that into perspective really, the sky is definitely falling, chicken little has spoken! :tugger: (IMHO) John.

Slightly off topic but just got sent this. Since I started the thread I guess I can post it...


A Message by George Carlin:
The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider Freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.

We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom.

We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.

We've learned how to make a living, but not a life. We've added years to life not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor. We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things.

We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less.. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less.

These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete...

Remember; spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever.

Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that little person soon will grow up and leave your side.

Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn't cost a cent.
;
Remember, to say, 'I love you' to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you.

Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there again.

Give time to love, give time to speak! And give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind.

AND ALWAYS REMEMBER:

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.

If you don't send this to at least 1 person .... Who cares?

George Carlin

[Skyryder]

Yes yes, it's a big conspiracy. Stay of the absinthe mate!

You can observe near-perfect symmetry (e.g. geometrical shapes) everywhere in nature if you look close enough...

Yep mother earth is a good example. That fractured geometry thing is another example as is the humble snowflake. But still ya gotta admit that
Saturn thing is weird.



Skyryder