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Str8 Jacket
31st March 2008, 15:13
Hey people, Im just after opinions ATM.....

I presently have an A100, rego on hold. Cosmetically its pretty good for its age. It started running like pooh a while ago so I have recently had a rebore done and replaced the piston and rings, spark plugs etc unfortunately this didnt help its "pooh-ness".... It has a newish chain on it but its really just kind of your typical A100 (except its kinda pooh ATM).

It really bog's down and does no more than 40kph now and I have no idea whats causing it but I know that if the right person got their hands on it, it'd prob be mint!

Im not saying I AM selling it but im thinking about it. I dont ahve any idea of what I should be selling it for and I sure as hell dont want to rip anyone off!!

What I wanna know is what would you guy's sell this for if you owned it?

EJK
31st March 2008, 15:18
GIJOE1313 once said to me "The parts for A100 are still being produced in Taiwan"
Hence I think he bought pistons, valves and other parts for around $9 each? (not too sure).

There may be keen buyers if it goes on sell :)

P.S. CC Challenge is comming up

Str8 Jacket
31st March 2008, 15:20
GIJOE1313 once said to me "The parts for A100 are still being produced in Taiwan"


Yep, its definately not expensive to maintain BUT it's a bit hard when you dont know what the heck is wrong with it!
Its been sitting around now for months and I kind of need any spare money for something else now.....

xwhatsit
31st March 2008, 15:21
...valves...
:laugh:<tenchar>

Bonez
31st March 2008, 15:56
:laugh:<tenchar>

Phoo phoo valves.

Skunk
31st March 2008, 16:08
Power valves. :blink:

If you can drag it to my place we'll have a look at it...

EJK
31st March 2008, 16:08
....valves....

Oh bugger...

BTT: If I were you, I would sell it listing up all the problems. Being honest, not like the guy who sold the FXR to me :angry2: Cunt!

quallman1234
31st March 2008, 16:11
Surely malcolm would take it off your hands?

inlinefour
31st March 2008, 16:15
Power valves. :blink:

If you can drag it to my place we'll have a look at it...

Sounds like needs a tune, decoke and it should run sweet. I'd be surprised if there is much wrong with it...

Bonez
31st March 2008, 16:35
Sounds like needs a tune, decoke and it should run sweet. I'd be surprised if there is much wrong with it...Fairy bullet proof wee bikes eh? A guy at the place I use to work with had one. Use to commute around 30kms a day. Because of the hot running he never had to do much to it at all apart from top up the fuel/oil and change the gearbox oil every now and again.

scracha
31st March 2008, 16:37
Ask Malcolm to hold the sparkplug whilst you do the kickstart thing. He'll have an erection for at least 5 minutes.

jrandom
31st March 2008, 16:41
Cunt!

Goodness me, EJ, such language!

I rather suspect that KB's rubbing off on you a bit...

xwhatsit
31st March 2008, 16:42
Fairy bullet proof wee bikes eh? A guy at the place I use to work with had one. Use to commute around 30kms a day. Because of the hot running he never had to do much to it at all apart from top up the fuel/oil and change the gearbox oil every now and again.

GiJoe1313 rode his back from shit-knows-middle-of-nowhere and seized it on the way. Once he unstuck it, the top speed increased 10kph relative to pre-seize. The hell! :laugh:

I love Justin's one. Kewl bike.

merv
31st March 2008, 16:45
Power valves. :blink:

If you can drag it to my place we'll have a look at it...

Be a disc valve on that one wouldn't it?

There is very little can go wrong on those except points ignition set up and the electric bits that go with that, if its had new piston and rings already it will have been decoked in the head, leaving maybe only the exhaust to look at and the state of the aircleaner which on those was a paper element in the round can above the engine, or the carb.

We did talk a while ago about the state of the oil pump too given the problem the bike had with the piston, hopefully that's not an issue.

inlinefour
31st March 2008, 17:07
Fairy bullet proof wee bikes eh? A guy at the place I use to work with had one. Use to commute around 30kms a day. Because of the hot running he never had to do much to it at all apart from top up the fuel/oil and change the gearbox oil every now and again.

I blew a few pistons in spare engines I had for mine, all because I was running it on something I probably should not have been and ringing its neck to see how fast it would go. Quite possibly could have been the worlds fastest A100, but then I got my hands on a RD250LC and promptly got rid of my A100...:devil2:

Str8 Jacket
31st March 2008, 17:10
There is very little can go wrong on those except points ignition set up and the electric bits that go with that, if its had new piston and rings already it will have been decoked in the head, leaving maybe only the exhaust to look at and the state of the aircleaner which on those was a paper element in the round can above the engine, or the carb.


I have bolded and underlined everything that has been done. When we removed the points they were still meaty, just needed cleaning up. The timing was quite out but had been fixed. The exhaust itself is sweet. It could be a head gasket but to be honest I really believe that it could be the carb! We have pulled out the carb and cleaned it, though it did look OK it may not be opening properly.
It cannot be anything too major, IMO. I have literally pulled it apart and swapped every part (except) the carb with a working A100's parts and still it just glugs. It does actually go, just not properly! :(
It has quite a few people scratching their heads!!
F5Dave has offered to look at it but he is just really really busy and I feel rude to take it to him! I may just take you up on your offer Skunk but just like I had problems even attempting to take it to Dave's I really need to get help with the transportation issue... I dont have a cage licence so cant borrow a van etc....

zeocen
31st March 2008, 17:15
After riding gijoe's one I've been on the lookout for an a100, I was bidding on one on Trademe until the buyer pulled it off with the reason "Wife road it one more time and decided she couldn't let it go". :(

They are such nice bikes to play with, if I were you I would keep it and use it to learn motorbikey stuff with!

Or sell it to me :D!

merv
31st March 2008, 17:50
Do you believe these guys really have the parts for A100's http://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-a100_model13054/ ?

scracha
31st March 2008, 19:21
I wouldn't deal with that dutch fuck ever again.

merv
31st March 2008, 19:22
I wouldn't deal with that dutch fuck ever again.

Tell us more, did he take your money and deliver nothing?

Str8 Jacket
31st March 2008, 19:31
ANYWAYS!!!!

Come on people, I started this thread cause I wanted to see if it was or may be worth my while selling it. I am in the process of buying a pretty cool bucket and was thinking of selling it to recoup some of the cost but I just dont think its worth it! Fact of the matter is that what the bike has cost me to maintain is exactly what I paid for it. I have had a shit load of riding out of it and it owes me nothing. I think that I probably will keep it cause no one can give me a price and its a fucken cool lil bike. Mostly cause its a 2 smoker but hey!

Mental Trousers
31st March 2008, 19:34
Start with decoking the exhaust. 2 strokes fill the exhaust header etc up with carbon and shit, effectively strangling the thing cos it can't get rid of the exhaust gasses.

Find a 40 gallon drum, throw it in there and burn stuff so it's nice and hot for a while then give it a belt now and then. That or use a gas torch to do the same thing.

You've said the exhaust is sweet. Has it already had this done??

Str8 Jacket
31st March 2008, 19:41
Start with decoking the exhaust. 2 strokes fill the exhaust header etc up with carbon and shit, effectively strangling the thing cos it can't get rid of the exhaust gasses.

Find a 40 gallon drum, throw it in there and burn stuff so it's nice and hot for a while then give it a belt now and then. That or use a gas torch to do the same thing.

You've said the exhaust is sweet. Has it already had this done??

It doesnt appear to have any more build up than a normally running 4 stroke but as decoking it sounds like it could be alot of fun and *everyone* keeps telling me that I should, im gonna do it this weekend. If that works then i'll be a very happy chicky AND it still has a months WOF left!

Mental Trousers
31st March 2008, 19:42
Decoking an exhaust is pyro fun!!!! Stinks though. Your neighbours may dislike you.

Str8 Jacket
31st March 2008, 19:49
Decoking an exhaust is pyro fun!!!! Stinks though. Your neighbours may dislike you.

hehe, I think i'll do it at the inlaw's..... or Deanos BBQ on Sat! :devil2:

gijoe1313
31st March 2008, 19:52
Ahh the A100, good times, I bought mine with the intention of just using it for the CCC ride, but now I've done hundreds of kms on it, Pippi will be mine forever!

As zeocen says, that lady on 'tardme knew what a gem they had and withdrew the sale :yes: I've never seen zeocen so keen on a small as bike! :lol: He seems to be more obsessed with it then with his 'bird! :scratch:

As for Xerxes, hes the pimp of retro, born in the wrong part of the generation gap he was! :baby:

I've actually ordered in more parts and a repair manual for Pippi, what I collect, I keep! :innocent: Hmm, mebbe one day I'll ride Pippi down to Wellywood just for the heck of it (if its gone to the Cape, it may as well go to the Bluff? :innocent:)

Str8 Jacket
31st March 2008, 19:54
a repair manual

Hey, where did you get that manual from? How much was is it?

Coyote
31st March 2008, 19:56
The relative pittance you'll get is not worth selling it for. You'll regret it.

Get an MX motor :evillaugh:*

*there really ought to be an smilie for that

gijoe1313
31st March 2008, 19:58
Hey, where did you get that manual from? How much was is it?

ebay is your enemy to the wallet and I forked out NZ$30 squiddies for it! Bargain! Everything about these little beauties is cheep cheep! Thailand still produce brand new parts on top of the stockpiles made in the 70s! :rofl:

New fuelcock $6
Gasket set for whole bike $8
Piston $20

:woohoo: :scooter:

Hahn
31st March 2008, 20:14
Find a 40 gallon drum, throw it in there and burn stuff so it's nice and hot for a while then give it a belt now and then. That or use a gas torch to do the same thing.

You've said the exhaust is sweet. Has it already had this done??

A gas torch (oxy acetylene) will be much easier than burning in a drum, although drum could be fun... but get it glowing and smack it with something (hammer) to knock out the build up. will produce a lot of black smoke.

For a cleaner but longer method, soak in paragon for 3 or 4 days, will be good and clean, and once you rince with water, ready for painting :2thumbsup

Str8 Jacket
31st March 2008, 20:18
For a cleaner but longer method, soak in paragon for 3 or 4 days, will be good and clean, and once you rince with water, ready for painting :2thumbsup

What is paragon?

ajturbo
31st March 2008, 20:30
hey hel's.. buy doug's bucket

Str8 Jacket
31st March 2008, 20:32
hey hel's.. buy doug's bucket

Actually, I am pretty sorted there now thanks matey... :cool:

Hahn
31st March 2008, 20:48
An industrial solvent that will dissolve almost anything, including aluminium (don't soak your bike frame in it as a fella at work did, all he found were the bushings in the bottom of the bath.
I don't know a hell of a lot about it... its bad stuff, don't touch.
google doesn't have much either, but;
http://www.surestream-fas.com/pdf/hes/Hydrocarbon%20Decontamination%20H03204.pdf

not sure how many places use it either, but ask around your local mechanics etc.

scracha
1st April 2008, 19:14
Tell us more, did he take your money and deliver nothing?
Arrogant, shit to deal with, char es lots in postage and quite often lists stuff he doesn't have [othe suppliers have it so he orders from them [not got a prob with that But should inform of the delay before asking payment]]