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CHOPPA
1st April 2008, 20:50
These guys have been doin the cr500af for ages now but i have just seen the kawasaki! so sweet! Id love this bike, pitty that price is in usd.....

http://www.servicehonda.com/specs/kx500af.html

dammad1
1st April 2008, 20:53
I want one!

sugilite
1st April 2008, 23:10
That is an awesome looking bike. Wow that frame! Here is 2 pics of mine in motarded form. They are still to this day real fast. As far as I'm aware, I still hold the motard lap record around the manfield track, a flat 1:18 (thats with the slower motor!) I've seen one with a Husaberg usd fork front end too :love:

CHOPPA
2nd April 2008, 21:41
id believe it mate i used to have a cr500 what a weapon! im looking into doing the kx500af as a motard might have to go to manfield!

motorbyclist
2nd April 2008, 23:11
:drool:...

scott411
3rd April 2008, 08:26
id believe it mate i used to have a cr500 what a weapon! im looking into doing the kx500af as a motard might have to go to manfield!

i had 2 kx500, an 00 and a 02, at one stage with the 02 i had something like 25 holeshots in a row, 3rd gear starts, used to jet them a bit rich so i could hang on to them ,

a couple of people have them as motards, but a 450 is a lot easier to ride thats for sure, and they stop a shit loads quicker

cheese
3rd April 2008, 10:33
There was a couple of guys at the T100 on CR500's. ONe guy could get his started no matter what on teh line! Both are nuts bikes!! Be a fun engine in a Gocart though!!

cheese
3rd April 2008, 10:35
Oh forgot to ask, what is the power output on those bikes? Must be nuts!!

sugilite
3rd April 2008, 12:02
Oh forgot to ask, what is the power output on those bikes? Must be nuts!!

Between 61 and 65 hp for KX500's, a little less for the CR500. The KX motor is definitly the more brutal of the two.

Even in motard form they are very hard to ride. I raced a superbike for 4 years and had one crash. I had 3 in one day on more than one occasion on the KX500 motard. The hardest thing is the initial power pulse when cracking the throttle. It is brutal enough to back the back end loose, does not matter how slowly you open the throttle. Not quite so bad on manfield, but tight go cart tracks and bucket circuits...watch out! :shit:

scott411
3rd April 2008, 13:37
There was a couple of guys at the T100 on CR500's. ONe guy could get his started no matter what on teh line! Both are nuts bikes!! Be a fun engine in a Gocart though!!

Darren Capill lead the Tarawera 100 in 1996 for 99.5 miles on a KX500, he ran out with about 200 metres to go, it was really wet that year, and he ran out in veiw of the finish, it was the most heart breaking thing i have ever seen, he ran to the pits, got gas, put it in, and still got 3rd, but was disquallifed for fueling outside the pits,

they used to do 3 33 mile laps back then, i had not made it one lap on my KX125, ran out of gas with about 3 km to go, to far to push,


a STD 450 mxer puts aout between 44-48 horses at the rear wheel, a 500 close to 60, they are dam fast,

B0000M
3rd April 2008, 15:17
Between 61 and 65 hp for KX500's, a little less for the CR500. The KX motor is definitly the more brutal of the two.

Even in motard form they are very hard to ride. I raced a superbike for 4 years and had one crash. I had 3 in one day on more than one occasion on the KX500 motard. The hardest thing is the initial power pulse when cracking the throttle. It is brutal enough to back the back end loose, does not matter how slowly you open the throttle. Not quite so bad on manfield, but tight go cart tracks and bucket circuits...watch out! :shit:



is that hp at the wheel? ive seen on specs on the net recent model cr250r's are meant to be 63hp - but thatd be at the engine

sugilite
3rd April 2008, 15:24
The kx puts out about 60 hp at the rear wheel standard.

The difference between the CRF and KX would be torque :cool:

B0000M
3rd April 2008, 15:40
The kx puts out about 60 hp at the rear wheel standard.

The difference between the CRF and KX would be torque :cool:

who mentioned the CRF?

sugilite
3rd April 2008, 15:43
LOL, just re-read your post :opps:
Still, the difference would be torque.
I often wonder how incredible would the 500 motors be now had they not stopped developing them in the very early nineties!!!

scott411
3rd April 2008, 16:47
the bikes got detuned from the mid 80's they became easier to ride after that, they say the factory ones in teh early 90's were over 70 horsepower, and needed decompression levers to help them start,

Coyote
3rd April 2008, 16:54
Even in motard form they are very hard to ride. I raced a superbike for 4 years and had one crash. I had 3 in one day on more than one occasion on the KX500 motard. The hardest thing is the initial power pulse when cracking the throttle. It is brutal enough to back the back end loose, does not matter how slowly you open the throttle. Not quite so bad on manfield, but tight go cart tracks and bucket circuits...watch out! :shit:
I want one even more now :laugh:

Hopefully get/make a mid 90's KX graphics kit like my old 80 had. And a Cyan seat with Kawasaki in white with a purple/pink background. And a purple frame and wheels. It'll be rad!

tommorth
7th April 2008, 20:38
[QUOTE=scott411;1503297]Darren Capill lead the Tarawera 100 in 1996 for 99.5 miles on a KX500, he ran out with about 200 metres to go, it was really wet that year, and he ran out in veiw of the finish, it was the most heart breaking thing i have ever seen, he ran to the pits, got gas, put it in, and still got 3rd, but was disquallifed for fueling outside the pits,

ive got a mag with some pic etc of that aparantly they were being clocked at over 160
ive always wnated to have a go on one

sugilite
7th April 2008, 21:42
On manfield, my one pulled 16/39 gearing, I think that puts it around 190+. I passed a lot of F3 bikes down the back straight.

quallman1234
7th April 2008, 22:02
Shit, is it still quite peaky or a bit more toned out?

Did you see this machine on tm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=145932235

Too me it seemed that no one could quite get the hang of modding a road bike frame to handle such a machine! No one got it just right but some bloody close?

Have you ridden one of these beasties?

I know jimmy used to have one, but never got it perfect.

sugilite
7th April 2008, 22:15
Shit, is it still quite peaky or a bit more toned out?

Did you see this machine on tm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=145932235

Too me it seemed that no one could quite get the hang of modding a road bike frame to handle such a machine! No one got it just right but some bloody close?

Have you ridden one of these beasties?

I know jimmy used to have one, but never got it perfect.

Mine has a bit more power everywhere than stock.

The bike you mention of Jimmys was originally mine. check out this thread, I show up on post 28.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=18859

As you may be guessing about now, I LOVE KX500 to bits, literally unfortunately :lol:

quallman1234
7th April 2008, 22:24
Excellent, yea read that before, sounds like great fun! When it goes!

And i thought my dad's KTM300EXC was insane!

Btw are you doing any racing this year?

sugilite
8th April 2008, 20:25
Purely depends on money, I'm training like I'm going to do the actrix series. Will do it on my 750 me thinks :yes:

cheese
8th April 2008, 20:35
I was reading an article a while back and some crazy guy got 3 old RM engines, and milled a case, fitted a Kawa gearbox and set the tripple 750 2 stroke up!! That would be freaking nuts.

Pierce
9th April 2008, 08:42
is that hp at the wheel? ive seen on specs on the net recent model cr250r's are meant to be 63hp - but thatd be at the engine


I'd believe that too. God mine is bloody quick as would be your's too I'd say:devil2:

tnarg
9th April 2008, 16:32
JUst spotted this conversion on trademe.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-148312997.htm?p=2

Crasherfromwayback
9th April 2008, 16:52
These guys have been doin the cr500af for ages now but i have just seen the kawasaki! so sweet! Id love this bike, pitty that price is in usd.....

http://www.servicehonda.com/specs/kx500af.html


That is an awesome looking bike. Wow that frame! Here is 2 pics of mine in motarded form. They are still to this day real fast. As far as I'm aware, I still hold the motard lap record around the manfield track, a flat 1:18 (thats with the slower motor!) I've seen one with a Husaberg usd fork front end too :love:

You guys have rose tinted glasses on!

Having raced both KX500's and modern 450 4 strokes...I can tell you that a 500cc 2 stroke is a rattly pile of poo in comparison. Fun yes...but like a Dodo...they're dead.

sugilite
9th April 2008, 17:59
You guys have rose tinted glasses on!

Having raced both KX500's and modern 450 4 strokes...I can tell you that a 500cc 2 stroke is a rattly pile of poo in comparison. Fun yes...but like a Dodo...they're dead.

No Pete, I won't be selling your old bike back to you :Pokey:

CHOPPA
9th April 2008, 20:07
You guys have rose tinted glasses on!

Having raced both KX500's and modern 450 4 strokes...I can tell you that a 500cc 2 stroke is a rattly pile of poo in comparison. Fun yes...but like a Dodo...they're dead.


Likewise, however this is combining the 2 and the respect you get when you start it in the pits yeah! haha
Even on the old ones if you dont race serious and you wanna just go do the odd club day and smoke everyone on a big old 5hundy it great and if you get beaten you have a handful of excuses :)

vr4king
9th April 2008, 20:20
Even on the old ones if you dont race serious and you wanna just go do the odd club day and smoke everyone on a big old 5hundy it great and if you get beaten you have a handful of excuses :)

My Hero right there hahahaha LOVE it

motorbyclist
9th April 2008, 23:45
You guys have rose tinted glasses on!

Having raced both KX500's and modern 450 4 strokes...I can tell you that a 500cc 2 stroke is a rattly pile of poo in comparison. Fun yes...but like a Dodo...they're dead.

haha, yeah

tried my neighbour's kx500 in a cr125 frame

farking rattly, farking fast, but i'm quicker on my 400 four stroke... can actually use and control the power:laugh: