Safety message for splitters talking off at the lights

[Finn]

Not everybody in cars drives like a pussy from the green. I gave this chap a hell of a fright this morning when I nailed it from the lights to catch another set of lights 100 metres ahead. He looked awkward and not quite sure what to do as I was in front and he was still riding in the middle so he thought giving me the finger was his best defense. He would have seen me laughing at this stage.

When I've split and in front of the queue, I always nail it until I'm sure I have cleared people like myself who don't wait for paint to dry before getting to the speed limit.

[nodrog]

were you on the street magic?

[Crisis management]

Well, he can't have been on the Harley.....

[Finn]

were you on the street magic?

Yeah, the 4 wheeled one. Funnily enough, I told my mates last night that the black beast had arrived and turned up on the Magic which they didn't know I owned.

[nodrog]

Yeah, the 4 wheeled one. Funnily enough, I told my mates last night that the black beast had arrived and turned up on the Magic which they didn't know I owned.

hahahaaa good shit

[vifferman]

Funnily enough, I told my mates last night that the black beast had arrived and turned up on the Magic which they didn't know I owned.
I would've liked to have seen that. :lol:

Yeah, I know what you mean, Mr Finn. I nearly got caught out last week when taking off from the lights and the guy on my right decided it was a race, and nearly hit me. Luckily, his vehicle wasn't a Mighty SUV like yours, and a little twist of the wrist was all I needed to make sure I was out of the way.
I've also stalled it a few times taking off from the lights, after splitting to the front. :o
The VFR's quite happy taking off with very few revs on board, but sometimes I've been a bit dozy. Great, innit? Split to the front, then stall on the line. :rolleyes: Not a good look...

[Finn]

I left plenty of room for him, it just gave him a fright. He was never in any danger and I wouldn't have a go at a fellow biker. Now had he have been on a scooter, that's another story.

[Finn]

hahahaaa good shit

They looked like stunned mullets. After a moment of silence, "What the fuck is that?"

[The Stranger]

They looked like stunned mullets. After a moment of silence, "What the fuck is that?"

Yeah, but were they surprised to see the bike?

[TOTO]

he probably taught you were racing him or you are angry at him trying to get your position. I would have taught the same thing. Human nature if you like.

[Devil]

Not everybody in cars drives like a pussy from the green. I gave this chap a hell of a fright this morning when I nailed it from the lights to catch another set of lights 100 metres ahead. He looked awkward and not quite sure what to do as I was in front and he was still riding in the middle so he thought giving me the finger was his best defense. He would have seen me laughing at this stage.

When I've split and in front of the queue, I always nail it until I'm sure I have cleared people like myself who don't wait for paint to dry before getting to the speed limit.

Yep, this fucks me right off too. Just because we're in a car doesn't mean we dont like to give it a blat.

Biggest bug bear, the people who split up the middle and then pull infront of your lane. Just stay in the middle you cunt!

[Mikkel]

Biggest bug bear, the people who split up the middle and then pull infront of your lane. Just stay in the middle you cunt!

:crybaby::crybaby::crybaby::crybaby::crybaby:

[Swoop]

Just stay in the middle you cunt!
I always do.
I know that cagers appreciate unmuffled exhaust noise and gasses coming at them at window height.:woohoo:

[vifferman]

Biggest bug bear, the people who split up the middle and then pull infront of your lane. Just stay in the middle you cunt!
Get fucked! :Pokey:
I don't usually do this, but there are places where I do, because I think it's safer, like turning right into the top of Glenfield Road. If I sit to the left of the right-turning lane, then I either have to squeeze in behind the person at the front, or go around the outside (like the buffalo girls). Either of these strikes me as more dangerous. I've been clipped by people taking off and jumping the green when I'm sitting between lanes - my safety comes before any irritation me parking in front causes.
I don't see how it hurts - there's no way I hold up the person at the front of the queue, as I'm sitting there, bike in gear, with the clutch just on the friction point, and I'm off around the corner before they've even gone, "Uh.... oh yeah.. the light's green!"
I don't get it?
Why would this bother you, Mr Devil? Please explain.

[Devil]

Qualification: Turning lanes dont count :P

Straight ahead lanes. Just stay out of the way!

[Mikkel]

Qualification: Turning lanes dont count :P

Straight ahead lanes. Just stay out of the way!

Nah, I always make sure that the people at the front are aware I am there. Best way to make sure they see you is to move into their field of view.

The distinction between turning and straight ahead lanes is pretty irrational as well.

Dunno about you fellas, but it does happen quite often that I "filter" to the front even if there's only one straight ahead lane... (We actually have roads like that down here.)

[Devil]

The distinction between turning and straight ahead lanes is pretty irrational as well.

Nah snot. The likelyhood of someone roaring off on a turning lane is slim. Plus sitting out to the side on a bike trying to jump ahead is a bit dodgy.

It's the ones that pull in front of you then have the reaction time of an elephant. Yes, people on bikes do it to.

[vifferman]

I "filter" to the front even if there's only one straight ahead lane..
I don't generally lanesplit, as there's no real point on the roads I commute on. However, if I'm on a bit of motorway and the traffic's not moving I will.
OTOH, I filter to the front at the lights a lot of the time, especially in the morning, as I hate sucking up fumes from all the cars taking off at the lights. Plus by the time all the cretins go, "uh... oh... say wha..? Oh yeah - the light's changed..", and put their knobs away, put the car in gear, taken the handbrake off, etc., the light's nearly ready to go orange again. :rolleyes:
That just won't do, in the Wacky Races! To win, you have to floor it the millisecond the light changes.

[Coldrider]

There's alot of cages around that are getting into the 0 to 100kph in 6 secs category and they can be on top of you real quick if you split and head to the center of the lane. Alot of small motorcycle capacity riders over estimate their cycles acceleration.

[Coyote]

The VFR's quite happy taking off with very few revs on board, but sometimes I've been a bit dozy. Great, innit? Split to the front, then stall on the line. :rolleyes: Not a good look...
My VFR's electrics die whilst I'm idling so it appears I've stalled at the lights :rolleyes:

They magically restart after the traffic has zoomed past me.


I've noticed my commuting style has become more aggressive and tend to be lanesplitting through traffic that isn't travelling much slower than the limit. It's not a good habit, especially since I always noticed the car I dodgiely passed a minute ago is now right up my arse at the lights because the lights will always, ALWAYS soak up any time you might have saved since they don't recognise you and don't delay turning amber. Actually, remembering this is making me angry, that's why I'm aggressive...

[vifferman]

I've noticed my commuting style has become more aggressive and tend to be lanesplitting through traffic that isn't travelling much slower than the limit. It's not a good habit...
So don't do it! :rolleyes:

[Morcs]

Qualification: Turning lanes dont count :P

Straight ahead lanes. Just stay out of the way!

I always pull in front of a car.

2 reasons:

1) in case another bikes comes through, he can also get to the front alongside me,

2) for whatever reason I dont pull away (breakdown, stall etc..) its much safer to hold up a lane of traffic, than be stuck in the middle of 2 lanes of traffic with fuckwit cagers trying to get past on either side.

Screw cages. I own the road.

[sunhuntin]

Alot of small motorcycle capacity riders over estimate their cycles acceleration.

i dont... i still havent got over some 7 years of push biking to school and back every day, so im still stuck on push bike speeds. im a sook when it comes to speed. i wont overtake unless i know i can get past easily, and i wont lane split [cept once when i was stuck in the round the lake taupo traffic and the ginny was turning my legs into a roast, lol.]

[Coyote]

So don't do it! :rolleyes:
But it's not nearly as entertaining

[Str8 Jacket]

But it's not nearly as entertaining

Funerals are not there for our entertainment.

[The Stranger]

Yep, this fucks me right off too. Just because we're in a car doesn't mean we dont like to give it a blat.

Biggest bug bear, the people who split up the middle and then pull infront of your lane. Just stay in the middle you cunt!

I mostly stay in the middle and let a shield go first anyway.
Rather a cage were hit by the red light runner than me. Soon waste them on the other side of the intersection.

[Mikkel]

There's alot of cages around that are getting into the 0 to 100kph in 6 secs category and they can be on top of you real quick if you split and head to the center of the lane. Alot of small motorcycle capacity riders over estimate their cycles acceleration.

I wouldn't say a lot. Some, but still even on my 250 I can do it in ~5 s. And from 0 to 50 km/h it's probably as fast as anything rear-wheel driven is likely to be. Not that many Enzos or Carrera GTs around - at least not where I commute.


I don't generally lanesplit, as there's no real point on the roads I commute on.

Come visit the Garden City and experience the morning rush-hour. It is truly terrible. I love my bike, if for no other reason then simply the fact that it allows me to move at a reasonable pace at any time of the day.
I've gotten to the point where I get irritable and annoyed whenever I have to go in to the centre in the car...

[Coldrider]

I wouldn't say a lot. Some, but still even on my 250 I can do it in ~5 s. And from 0 to 50 km/h it's probably as fast as anything rear-wheel driven is likely to be. Not that many Enzos or Carrera GTs around - at least not where I commute.
A motorcyclist who can't out accelerate a cage he has lane split is a real loser.

[vifferman]

Come visit the Garden City and experience the morning rush-hour. It is truly terrible.
I was lucky when I lived there, as I only had to commute from St Martins to Riccarton. So, of course, I varied the route, and added some extra long-cuts from time to time. It was good getting up to 160km/h on the way to work, and stretching my 7km commute to 20 or more.

[Coyote]

Funerals are not there for our entertainment.
Get a pop up, 'Quote Notification: Str8 Jacket', think "oh dear, she's angry at me for that comment". Sure enough :msn-wink:

If I really had the guts to get myself killed, you wouldn't have known me. And I don't intend to. All my stupid mistakes and actions were thought of as stupid in hindsight and I learn not to do anything like them for the future .

Like selling those RG's. Damn I miss them.

[Nagash]

Qualification: Turning lanes dont count :P

Straight ahead lanes. Just stay out of the way!

I'll only do it if I see another bike coming up behind me to let him line up too.


This morning I was lane splitting behind a gu on a black VFR. He was really terrible and refused to go through gaps that he could of easily made it through so he sat by the driver's window staring at them and revving his engine as hard as he could (still pretty quiet..)

This just pissed everyone off and when he finally squeezed past them I was left with the aftermath when trailing behind him.. People blocking me off on purpose and all the rest of it..

Bloody prick.

[more_fasterer]

I always pull in front of a car.

2 reasons:

1) in case another bikes comes through, he can also get to the front alongside me,

2) for whatever reason I dont pull away (breakdown, stall etc..) its much safer to hold up a lane of traffic, than be stuck in the middle of 2 lanes of traffic with fuckwit cagers trying to get past on either side.

Screw cages. I own the road.

Wot e' said. Except I don't own the road...

[Ixion]

Wot e' said. Except I don't own the road...

You could put a down payment on it.

[bounce]

Yep, this fucks me right off too. Just because we're in a car doesn't mean we dont like to give it a blat.

Biggest bug bear, the people who split up the middle and then pull infront of your lane. Just stay in the middle you cunt!


I disagree - even though this cutting across at the front of a line isn't something that I do. I figure if you have filtered to the front on an underpowered bike it is probably the for the safest to move in front of the lead car so that they know you are going first (other than not having gone lane-split of course) Sitting 3 across at 2 lanes just invites the cars on either side to have a go. And when it';s a smaller bike or a scooter, they usually do. Agree it's a pain when guys do it and aren't fast off the line but I'd rather see someone hold up the first car for 2 seconds than be caught in the middle overtaken both sides.

Same goes for scooters that ride in the gutter. Not a good idea as it invites cars to overtake even where real close. Sure I wish that they would run faster bikes but they are better to hold their lane than compromise safety (also why I hate riding a push bike in traffic).

[SPman]

It was good getting up to 160km/h on the way to work, and stretching my 7km commute to 20 or more.
In the 50 or 70 K zones? :rolleyes:

Over here, there is often a gap at the lights, where, for some reason, the vehicle in front will hang back a car length from the line. Can split and get 3-4 bikes at the front, sometimes.

[kiwibryn]

I piss the cagers off and use the same amount of space up that they do... I mean, hey, just cos I got 2 wheels and max out at 2 metres long don't mean I can't USE the same amount of road....
:clap::2thumbsup

[Usarka]

fileteing to the front on an underpowered scooter is what gives bikes a bad name.

if u in front you nail it. Thanks for letting me though, i won't hold you up. Which negates (sp?) the issues of staying the split position of pulling in front of car.

i pull in front of car in case another filterer comes up behind me.

what was the question?

[mstriumph]

.......... Just stay in the middle you cunt!couldn't have phrased it better myself .........

i just HATE the way some Bikers automatically veer left or right as they take off ---- arogantly assuming that it's some dozy cager in the car they are next to [instead of moi :innocent:] ............. anticipating they'll do this i take the time, on take off, to pull away from them a little - giving them extra space; it's very gratifying to see the number i STILL beat away from the lights, even after penalising myself like that an me driving a little getz an all.............

yeah - i know i'm nasty .... but honestly, they shouldn't filter if they aren't quick enough to hit the throttle and get the hell out of the way of the traffic the minute the lights change .

.. they richly deserve any embarrassment they get from arrogantly assuming that SKILL has nothing to do with it methinks :innocent:

[Ixion]

In Auckland , the council have provided a special space for us at the front of many traffic lights. There's another line in front of the "Stop here" line. Very obliging of them.

[homer]

Not everybody in cars drives like a pussy from the green. I gave this chap a hell of a fright this morning when I nailed it from the lights to catch another set of lights 100 metres ahead. He looked awkward and not quite sure what to do as I was in front and he was still riding in the middle so he thought giving me the finger was his best defense. He would have seen me laughing at this stage.

When I've split and in front of the queue, I always nail it until I'm sure I have cleared people like myself who don't wait for paint to dry before getting to the speed limit.

oh yeah there shockers , i think the paint actually dried today .
anyhoo you need to watch the floor it away from the lights , apparently on another thread you can get copped for using unnessary speed , W T F that means .

[Finn]

Oh dear, I've created a "I hate bikers thread" on a biker website.

[Frenchy]

oh yeah there shockers , i think the paint actually dried today .
anyhoo you need to watch the floor it away from the lights , apparently on another thread you can get copped for using unnessary speed , W T F that means .

Its called excessive acceleration and you go to court for it!!

If you want to piss cars off just split on the back wheel :shit:

[Mikkel]

A motorcyclist who can't out accelerate a cage he has lane split is a real loser.

Have you ever stalled your bike? I have managed it once when it mattered... Not a nice feeling! And hell yes, I was cringing on the inside, bashing myself getting the bike going ASAP.

One thing that can be both dangerous and annoying are when cars start rolling forward before the green light even comes on - meaning that you have to take off out of a "tunnel". Pulling in front of the car prevents this most of the time.


I was lucky when I lived there, as I only had to commute from St Martins to Riccarton. So, of course, I varied the route, and added some extra long-cuts from time to time. It was good getting up to 160km/h on the way to work, and stretching my 7km commute to 20 or more.

Jup, that certainly improves the deal. If the weather is good and I'm not in too much of a hurry I quite often commute along the summit road :niceone:

[Magua]

Biggest bug bear, the people who split up the middle and then pull infront of your lane. Just stay in the middle you cunt!

I do this 9 times out of ten. Safest way to go. I very rarely hold anyone up though, unless I stall. I stalled a few times on my rg on shitty cold days, embarrassing. Pull to the right and let the cars go as I try to kick the bike back into life.

[vifferman]

Oh dear, I've created a "I hate bikers thread" on a biker website.
Ha ha! Well done, Mr Finn! :niceone:

[Jiminy]

Nah, I always make sure that the people at the front are aware I am there. Best way to make sure they see you is to move into their field of view.


2) for whatever reason I dont pull away (breakdown, stall etc..) its much safer to hold up a lane of traffic, than be stuck in the middle of 2 lanes of traffic with fuckwit cagers trying to get past on either side.

+1 to both comments. Better safe than sorry.

I make sure that I only split if I know I'll be faster at the green light. I might misjudge a car, but that didn't happen yet, and I'd rather have a fast car behind me than racing me.

If I can't take off from the light or drive faster than the cars, I just don't lane split and lose a few seconds of my day, not a big deal. Not that I often split anyway...

[Jiminy]

it's very gratifying to see the number i STILL beat away from the lights, even after penalising myself like that an me driving a little getz an all.............

Now THAT I find concerning and dangerous. As a biker, I thought you'd know better than to put other bikers at risk just to flatter your ego!

The green light is not for drag racing. If a biker misjudge his acceleration compare to yours, be nice with him :calm:

[mstriumph]

Now THAT I find concerning and dangerous. As a biker, I thought you'd know better than to put other bikers at risk just to flatter your ego!
................. If a biker misjudge his acceleration compare to yours, be nice with him :calm:
flatter my ego be damned!

if i am at the front of the queue - i will pull away in my normal reaction time and at my normal take-off speed ...

there is NO WAY on this green EARTH that i am going to dick about to spare the feelings of some thoughtless twit who has filtered down next to me on the arrogant assumption that just being on a bike gives him [or her] the skill and reactions necessary to take off without being a danger or inconvenience to other road users...

i repeat

yeah - i know i'm nasty .... but honestly, they shouldn't filter if they aren't quick enough to hit the throttle and get the hell out of the way of the traffic the minute the lights change .

let's face it, rather they get humiliated by me than get mown down by some SUV driver with better reflexes the next time they try it


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for the sake of clarity, i am ONLY talking about filterers taking the central positon between two vehicles at the lights - or 'lane sharing' with the front vehicle ....... i am NOT talking about instances where a filterer occupies a space IN FRONT of the first veh at the lights

*sigh - sometimes i think my whole life should come with a disclaimer ...:rolleyes:*

[n0regret5]

i love filtering to the front and watching the boy racers roll up their windows as i go past..
i've stalled a couple of times on the tillis..terribly embarrassing. i'd still rather filter to the front than stay in a massive cue..i have some kind of odd fear of being stuck behind cars. i like being at the front. shame i'm not so good at racing..:-D

[Ducman]

"if i am at the front of the queue - i will pull away in my normal reaction time and at my normal take-off speed ..."

I guess it's no problem then if I get to the front of the queue by lane splitting then pull away in my normal reaction time etc.. get over it!

[merv]

When I'm in the cage the silliest pricks I see are the ones that try and lane split at ther bottom of Haywards where you turn right to head to Lower Hutt. Once I was in the left lane and this dick on a Ducati took off in the middle on his bike and didn't seem to be able to hang it hard right on take off and cut right in front of me because he basically went straight ahead and almost ran off the edge of the road and I nearly hit him and would if I hadn't dabbed the brakes to miss him. The next one I'm in the right lane and this time a guy on an R1 does the same trick splitting up the middle and when we take off he does the old straight ahead trick too and by then I'm off around the corner and he takes a while to get up speed and pass. On a curved take off those boys need to learn a bit of bike control.

Anyway nice one Finn - give them the learn. :clap: That's what the human race is about eh - winners and losers and you've got to teach the losers a lesson. :2guns:

[boomer]

I always pull in front of a car.

2 reasons:

1) in case another bikes comes through, he can also get to the front alongside me,

2) for whatever reason I dont pull away (breakdown, stall etc..) its much safer to hold up a lane of traffic, than be stuck in the middle of 2 lanes of traffic with fuckwit cagers trying to get past on either side.

Screw cages. I own the road.


+1







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[Morcs]

+1







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But you cant own the road too? unless ya riding a DRZ then its all good :devil2:

[boomer]

But you cant own the road too? unless ya riding a DRZ then its all good :devil2:

was that you on a drz going over the intersection at k rd and pitt st today?


and funnily enough i was so totally OWNING the track today.... each car i saw as a berm and carvered 'em up

[Morcs]

was that you on a drz going over the intersection at k rd and pitt st today?





and funnily enough i was so totally OWNING the track today.... each car i saw as a berm and carvered 'em up

Couldve been. I cross the symonds street end of K road at 5:30ish

So you own the track? which one? you wouldnt want to own taupo with it being $3m in debt and all :laugh:

[Slingshot]

This fat cunt split up to the right of me yesterday morning on a red SV at the lights that come off the motorway and onto the terrace. Lights go green...we both take off at the same time, I turn right into the left lane...he turns right into the right then changes lane across into me, I was forced to brake to avoid him.

Hi number plate was SV650. If you know him, can you pm me his name...I wouldn't mind having a few words.

[boomer]

Couldve been. I cross the symonds street end of K road at 5:30ish

So you own the track? which one? you wouldnt want to own taupo with it being $3m in debt and all :laugh:


ALL teh NZ goat tracks... :doh:



Slingshot, i got buzzed by a chick on an SV today, she flew past me as i took of at teh lights, and i wasn't tootling. So i wheelied past her ... she laughed at me and teh size of my willie