Farewell absent friends. You are missed.

[Hitcher]

One of the perennial topics of conversation on this site is moaning about how some shit stirrer has achieved the ire of the Moderators and has been sanctioned for breaking the site's rules and disrupting members' quiet enjoyment. Usually from the aggrieved shit stirrer in question.

Another perennial topic is one which begs the reinstatement of members banned for repeatedly objectionable behaviour. This usually comes from people either in or amused by the antics of those referred to in this thread's opening paragraph.

Another perennial topic is people announcing that they have had enough and are leaving, few of whom actually do in reality. These folks are generally miffed attention-seekers.

More disturbing is the gradual and unannounced departure of members who make a valued contribution to this site, provide experience and services on the site and in meat space, and who make a positive contribution to the New Zealand motorcycle community. They do this not because they expect recognition but because they are folk who like being able to help others.

It is reasonably easy to assemble a list of "valued and positive contributors" who are no longer here. Some have different reasons for leaving, but for many the toxic, abusive, ungrateful and selfish attitude of some members ultimately proved too much for them. Without fanfare these folk have just logged off and never returned.

The world has pitifully few of these people. If the world is anything like Kiwi Biker, then it doesn't deserve them. We are poorer for their absence.

[Fatjim]

They, like everyone else, should HTFU, GTFU or FTFO.

[ManDownUnder]

Agreed 100%. Anyone in mind Hitch or just an "about time it was said"?

[Str8 Jacket]

I miss Paul in NZ. Some people really didnt respect him for the awesome person he really is.......

[yungatart]

There is a few I miss...I wish my aim was better:lol:
Seriously, there are some posters who just quietly disappear along with their valued contributions..its life, I guess.

[Quasievil]

I agree, KB should be a life sentence :rolleyes:

[Joni]

its life, I guess.I agree, but I also don’t agree :scratch:

Yes its life that people change direction and make decisions which affects things....

However, I think this is more KB, than life... some really good people who I care for deeply and respect more than most have left because of this shit some people are set on causing... however I don’t actually blame them for leaving, they are better than the crap, and should move on!

[mynameis]

Someones missing skidMark :laugh:

[Hitcher]

They, like everyone else, should HTFU, GTFU or FTFO.

Some have done all three. That's why they're no longer here.

[Hitcher]

Agreed 100%. Anyone in mind Hitch or just an "about time it was said"?

Naming names adds no value, other than noting who all the Really Good Bastards who're no longer here are.

[Fatjim]

I agree, but I also don’t agree :scratch:

Yes its life that people change direction and make decisions which affects things....

However, I think this is more KB, than life... some really good people who I care for deeply and respect more than most have left because of this shit some people are set on causing... however I don’t actually blame them for leaving, they are better than the crap, and should move on!

Actually, some people who I "care for deeply and respect" have been utter wankers themselves at times and deserved a bitchslapping. Should they have left because of it, maybe, but I hope not. The measure of a person is how they deal with an honest bitchslapping, being able to acknowledge their mistakes and get over it. That commodity is one that is seriously laking nowadays, and its not just a KB thing.

However, some have left just because they are tired, not tired of anything in particular, just tired. You know what they say, a change is as good as a rest.

But the most missed are those that never planned to leave in the first place.

[jrandom]

I'm with Quasi on this one; KB's not a life sentence.

If one finds oneself bothered by losing touch with any particular friend made via these public forums, one can always just write them a letter or email, telephone them, or turn up on their doorstep and presume upon their hospitality for a cup of tea.

There are certainly a few plonkers who post on KB, and frankly, I relish the opportunity to put the boot into any individuals who personally offend me. Aside from that, the posters on the forum seem more or less a reflection of society and human nature; wishing for things to be otherwise is just silly.

Perhaps I just have a particularly thick pair of rose-tinted spectacles?

:confused:

[Joni]

Actually, some people who I "care for deeply and respect" have been utter wankers themselves at times and deserved a bitchslapping. This is not directed at anyone in particular... but I think my issue comes into it when people have to be bitchslapped (as you call it) and bitchslapped over and over again because of the same old shit, and they don’t alter their behaviour and this starts hurting others... then I start to wonder.... :(

But yes I agree with you.... people do leave for many reasons....

[inlinefour]

One of the perennial topics of conversation on this site is moaning about how some shit stirrer has achieved the ire of the Moderators and has been sanctioned for breaking the site's rules and disrupting members' quiet enjoyment. Usually from the aggrieved shit stirrer in question.

Another perennial topic is one which begs the reinstatement of members banned for repeatedly objectionable behaviour. This usually comes from people either in or amused by the antics of those referred to in this thread's opening paragraph.

Another perennial topic is people announcing that they have had enough and are leaving, few of whom actually do in reality. These folks are generally miffed attention-seekers.

More disturbing is the gradual and unannounced departure of members who make a valued contribution to this site, provide experience and services on the site and in meat space, and who make a positive contribution to the New Zealand motorcycle community. They do this not because they expect recognition but because they are folk who like being able to help others.

It is reasonably easy to assemble a list of "valued and positive contributors" who are no longer here. Some have different reasons for leaving, but for many the toxic, abusive, ungrateful and selfish attitude of some members ultimately proved too much for them. Without fanfare these folk have just logged off and never returned.

The world has pitifully few of these people. If the world is anything like Kiwi Biker, then it doesn't deserve them. We are poorer for their absence.

I miss Zed, I met him in person and he is a really good bugger. I wish he was still here.
I also miss reading trhe digs from winja, I know he wont be back probably, but in person he is a good bastard.
I also miss Rayza, we talked in the chatroom and msn alot and I considered him a good friend.
:crybaby:

[ManDownUnder]

I'm with Quasi on this one; KB's not a life sentence.

If one finds oneself bothered by losing touch with any particular friend made via these public forums, one can always just write them a letter or email, telephone them, or turn up on their doorstep and presume upon their hospitality for a cup of tea.

I do, and they do - which actually adds to the friendship in some respects. The formative basis of that friendship has gone, been removed and yet the friendship endures. There are one or two like that, and while I hear from them rarely, I'm all the happier when I do.


There are certainly a few plonkers who post on KB, and frankly, I relish the opportunity to put the boot into any individuals who personally offend me

And points of principle which the masses in society (and KB) seem to gleefully ignore in their longing to be in the crowd as they satisfy their bloodlust on whomsoever happens to be defenceless on the day.


Perhaps I just have a particularly thick pair of rose-tinted spectacles?

Hey if they fit - wear 'em! I do.


This is not directed at anyone in particular... but I think my issue comes into it when people have to be bitchslapped (as you call it) and bitchslapped over and over again because of the same old shit, and they don’t alter their behaviour and this starts hurting others... then I start to wonder.... :(
LMAO.... you and I are soooo similar. Leading that thirsty horse back to the water again and again and again get's tiring doesn't it?

[enigma51]

Can someone translate in english for me please

[MSTRS]

Indeed, farewell absent friends.
And those who would be here still, but for....

[ManDownUnder]

Can someone translate in english for me please
Sure


One of the perennial topics of conversation on this site is moaning about how some shit stirrer has achieved the ire of the Moderators and has been sanctioned for breaking the site's rules and disrupting members' quiet enjoyment. Usually from the aggrieved shit stirrer in question.
People stir shit, piss off the Mods, get smacked by the Mods then complain.

It happens lots


Another perennial topic is one which begs the reinstatement of members banned for repeatedly objectionable behaviour. This usually comes from people either in or amused by the antics of those referred to in this thread's opening paragraph.
People do dumb shit and get banned from KB. Their friends get into KB and ask to let them back in. Sometimes it's just people that get their jollies from jumping up and down about it

It happens lots


Another perennial topic is people announcing that they have had enough and are leaving, few of whom actually do in reality. These folks are generally miffed attention-seekers.
People that say "I'm never coming back" almost always do. They normally make a lot of noise for no good reason and when their shouting stops getting attention they have a tanty and threaten to leave.

It happens lots


More disturbing is the gradual and unannounced departure of members who make a valued contribution to this site, provide experience and services on the site and in meat space, and who make a positive contribution to the New Zealand motorcycle community. They do this not because they expect recognition but because they are folk who like being able to help others.
Some people in KB are good people. When they get annoyed they just leave like self respecting grown ups.

It happens too often


It is reasonably easy to assemble a list of "valued and positive contributors" who are no longer here. Some have different reasons for leaving, but for many the toxic, abusive, ungrateful and selfish attitude of some members ultimately proved too much for them. Without fanfare these folk have just logged off and never returned.

The world has pitifully few of these people. If the world is anything like Kiwi Biker, then it doesn't deserve them. We are poorer for their absence.
Annoying little shits make life hard for good people who then leave (like grown ups, see above)

It happens too often. KB would be better off if the little shits left

[Joni]

KB would be better off if the little shits leftAmen! :yes:

[MSTRS]

KB would be better off if the little shits left

And some of them aint so little. Or young.

[ManDownUnder]

And some of them aint so little. Or young.
...what she said...

Amen! :yes:

[Maha]

Dont really miss anyone to be honest, for every one that signs out, theres got to be 100 or so that sign in. Its like living in a massive apartment block, the guy in apartment 4a leaves, not really a big loss, he left for his own reasons and if he were truely a friend, he would keep in touch.....somehow.

[enigma51]

Thanks mandownunder

So to sum it up in one sentence

hitcher is having a bitching session



SWEEEEEET

[enigma51]

Amen! :yes:

Its not church no need for amens :spanking:

[Maha]

hitcher is having a bitching session



Possibly, its a 'Seinfeild' thread. A thread about nothing really. One step above 'Goodbye' threads in which, some tell the thread starter to 'Leave ,in a rather sexual manner'. Hey Hitcher!!!! do you want us to write a eulogy about those missing in action? or out of action as it were?

[enigma51]

Possibly, its a 'Seinfeild' thread. A thread about nothing really. One step above 'Goodbye' threads in which, some tell the thread starter to 'Leave ,in a rather sexual manner'. Hey Hitcher!!!! do you want us to write a eulogy about those missing in action? or out of action as it were?

maybe have a bit of sing song as well :sunny:

[Maha]

maybe have a bit of sing song as well :sunny:

:crybaby:... How can we end it all this way.


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[Finn]

dont wory hitcher i wont leeve. hair for the long hall.

awsome dude. :headbang:

[Hitcher]

Possibly, its a 'Seinfeild' thread. A thread about nothing really. One step above 'Goodbye' threads in which, some tell the thread starter to 'Leave ,in a rather sexual manner'. Hey Hitcher!!!! do you want us to write a eulogy about those missing in action? or out of action as it were?

No need for a eulogy. Whether or not they may be "tough enough", Good Bastards get pissed off and leave. That's their decision, and I respect that. But in some cases if they hadn't been set upon by a bunch of ignorant, ungrateful loud-mouthed arses, they'd still be here making a valued contribution.

I know KB isn't a "life sentence" and that people have their own reasons for joining up and contributing in the first place. But it just saddens me when people who make a genuine positive contribution get it thrown back in their faces. That just makes me sad and feel like something really special has been lost.

[Maha]

I believe Stu was never set upon by anyone but is no longer the 'user' (yes it can like a drug at times) he once was. Are you speaking of any memeber/s in particular?
Sniper is the only one that notice not being around.
Read into that what you will.

[ManDownUnder]

dont wory hitcher i wont leeve. hair for the long hall.
awsome dude. :headbang:

Moron - you put the periods in the right place...

[Maha]

Moron - you put the periods in the right place...

Finn has periods??....:puke:

[ManDownUnder]

Finn has periods??

Sure does.... periods where he's a bastard - and the rest of the time when he's just a little cunt.

[SixPackBack]

No need for a eulogy. Whether or not they may be "tough enough", Good Bastards get pissed off and leave. That's their decision, and I respect that. But in some cases if they hadn't been set upon by a bunch of ignorant, ungrateful loud-mouthed arses, they'd still be here making a valued contribution.

I know KB isn't a "life sentence" and that people have their own reasons for joining up and contributing in the first place. But it just saddens me when people who make a genuine positive contribution get it thrown back in their faces. That just makes me sad and feel like something really special has been lost.

I agree Hitcher. Time the mods left these people alone:eek:

Dude, really, a big dose of HTFU is what most of these MIA's need:crybaby:

[Crasherfromwayback]

No need for a eulogy. Whether or not they may be "tough enough", Good Bastards get pissed off and leave. That's their decision, and I respect that. But in some cases if they hadn't been set upon by a bunch of ignorant, ungrateful loud-mouthed arses, they'd still be here making a valued contribution.


That may well be the case Hitcher. But, surely if they're that keen to 'help', they should be able to simply ignore the shit that often gets flung about?

[ManDownUnder]

...they should be able to simply ignore the shit that often gets flung about?

Yes but... no. Some adults are cut out to be kindy teachers... most aren't.

[jrandom]

That just makes me sad and feel like something really special has been lost.

Good lord, man. Did you actually type that?

:crazy:

Given the obvious need for a little testicular hypertrophy, I feel an imminent Scotch-based intervention coming on.

[mister.koz]

I haven't known any of the mia's but i can say its an obvious trait of people to break or damage things they wont get punished for and a common rule that the kind hearted and generous get bleed dry by people who don't care.

the old saying: "no good deed goes unpunished"

People are weird, and the first thing that springs to mind was the cage driver who recently had to do 70km/h and drive up on the median and over the middle of a round-about to get past me, he drove past me swearing and shaking his fist and here i was all a wonder what was wrong with doing 60 in a 50? only thing i could put my finger on was that perhaps my being on 2 wheels had something to do with it.

[merv]

I miss Paul in NZ. Some people really didnt respect him for the awesome person he really is.......


Paul was/is a great guy I agree. In the early days he even led some of our rides on his Guzzi.

What I could never fathom was what was bugging him a lot of the time because I thought we did all show respect so who were the buggers that didn't? What has he done now has he had his account totally closed or something?

I guess we can at least say well we are still here.

[merv]

That may well be the case Hitcher. But, surely if they're that keen to 'help', they should be able to simply ignore the shit that often gets flung about?


No different than real life relationships like marriages I reckon, some last some don't but in all cases it requires work from all parties including respect and compromise.

If those that have left are so fantastic they would not have walked out no matter how rough the going got, and here its only the internet for chrissake, not a real marriage.

[Mom]

Has it occured to anyone that perhaps one of the reasons people stop spending so much time on KB is because of a change of life circumstances? The crap that can and does happen on here is nothing to get bent out of shape about really.

KB caters for a wide range of motorcycle genres. You dont have to partake in the shits and giggles if you dont want to. I would hope that I would still maintain contact and friendships with people even if I was no longer posting on KB for whatever reason.

If I stop posting it will be because it is right for me to, no matter the reason.

[scumdog]

They, like everyone else, should HTFU, GTFU or FTFO.

Hey, now THERE'S a really positive contribution!!!!!:woohoo:

[scumdog]

I miss Paul in NZ. Some people really didnt respect him for the awesome person he really is.......

He must have pulled the pin very recently, I've seen some of his posts npt THAT long ago.

(mumbles to self: never even knew he was no more on KB)

[Mom]

If people are leaving here because they are tired of some of the goings on as has been suggested, it must have been the right decision for them. KB will continue, surely it should not change to retain members that dont like being here?

I wonder what the responses would have been like had Katman put this thread up and not Hitcher?

[MSTRS]

I wonder what the responses would have been like had Katman put this thread up and not Hitcher?

But he wouldn't have....

[Mom]

But he wouldn't have....

Be funny if he did though...LOL

[enigma51]

Be funny if he did though...LOL

not as funny as hitcher putting it up! :Pokey:

[Katman]

More disturbing is the gradual and unannounced departure of members who make a valued contribution to this site, provide experience and services on the site and in meat space, and who make a positive contribution to the New Zealand motorcycle community. They do this not because they expect recognition but because they are folk who like being able to help others.


I know what you mean Hitcher.


Just as well I'm thick-skinned and don't give up easily.:msn-wink:

[Str8 Jacket]

He must have pulled the pin very recently, I've seen some of his posts npt THAT long ago.

(mumbles to self: never even knew he was no more on KB)

Oh, dont get me wrong. I dont know if he has "pulled th pin", so to speak but he was definately a big contributer with alot of knowledge, I just havent seen him round lately.....

[merv]

Oh, dont get me wrong. I dont know if he has "pulled th pin", so to speak but he was definately a big contributer with alot of knowledge, I just havent seen him round lately.....

I can't find him on the member list any more so that's why I was asking :(

Update: I went a round-about way and got to his profile off a thread and his last post was 9 March 2008. Shame, he should come back.

[Mom]

I can't find him on the member list any more so that's why I was asking :(

Update: I went a round-about way and got to his profile off a thread and his last post was 9 March 2008. Shame, he should come back.

Is he on holiday? Is his health good? Are his kids OK? Does his Mom need to go into a rest home and he is busy organising that? Is his marraige OK? Is he simply busy? Does he have better things to do?

He may have chosen not to log on because he is over it?

Who knows. I have had a few PM's with Paul, he seems a nice guy, I dont have contact details for him off KB, or I would be in touch and know what is happening for him. Go and ask if you are concerned.

[enigma51]

so when is the thread moved to pointless dribble?

[Hitcher]

so when is the thread moved to pointless dribble?

As soon as the shit left by mindless wankers is too deep to shovel.

[SixPackBack]

As soon as the shit left by mindless wankers is too deep to shovel.

Leaving your own thread??....thats a bit rude Hitcher!

[enigma51]

As soon as the shit left by mindless wankers is too deep to shovel.

You must like shit then cause she's getting deep

[marty]

I miss Skidmark. He hasn't posted for weeks! He still lurks though. Jimmy must be keeping him under wraps!

[scumdog]

I miss Skidmark. He hasn't posted for weeks! He still lurks though. Jimmy must be keeping him under wraps!

Luckily for the collective sanity of KB I'd say!!:banana:

[Joni]

I thought about this quite a bit last night... and flame me, mock me as much as you like... I feel as I have always said KB is a slightly “abnormal” situation.... you come into contact with people you may not necessarily have come into contact with without the site. This in itself has great advantages, because I can personally say that I have made some wonderful friends through this site. I have however, also met some of the most horrible people, people I would never even glance in their direction in “real life”... so like life I suppose there are many angles to people and their approaches on this site.

I over simplify it on KB, and say there are the people who care and the people who don’t. The people who care, like the Paul in NZ of the world are amazing, but are becoming further and further apart on KB. The people who don’t, who seem to get pleasure out of pushing their own inferiority complexes on others in an attempt to make them feel better about themselves are becoming more and more.

It is sad for me to see... I may be getting older now, and have been on KB long enough to see the changes take place. I don’t like what I see... when good people are trampled down and arses prevail. Does it mean the arses are right? No... it means they play dirtier, and the good people of the world don’t enter that sort of “combat”.

It’s sad.
As I said, agree with me, mock me, flame me... don’t really give a toss really. It’s just my opinion... and like arseholes we all have one.

To the person who spurred on this thread by their leaving - Adios mate... Im glad I still know you in real life and am proud to call you a friend.

[ManDownUnder]

It is sad for me to see... I may be getting older now, and have been on KB long enough to see the changes take place. I don’t like what I see... when good people are trampled down and arses prevail. Does it mean the arses are right? No... it means they play dirtier, and the good people of the world don’t enter that sort of “combat”.

I see what you're saying and while I don't disagree, I've found the arses don't win, because while I am not able to stand up to them alone, I find it easy to cope in a couple of ways

The first is to see them for who they are. Their opinions are not worth anything so I happily watch them yapping away making an arse of themselves, and their little gaggles of friends. It's so cute, pointless, and ineffective.

The other is for the serious arses, those with firm convictions on a serious issue that IMHO are just plain flawed. I'll open my mouth to this ... possibly too much, knowing that if I go overboard at any point, and I do, I have friends out there that will pull me up in no uncertain terms.

[Swoop]

Luckily for the collective sanity of KB I'd say!!:banana:
We'll keep him like The Gimp... Just drag him out for "special" occasions and entertainment value.

[The Pastor]

One of the perennial topics of conversation on this site is moaning about how some shit stirrer has achieved the ire of the Moderators and has been sanctioned for breaking the site's rules and disrupting members' quiet enjoyment. Usually from the aggrieved shit stirrer in question.

Another perennial topic is one which begs the reinstatement of members banned for repeatedly objectionable behaviour. This usually comes from people either in or amused by the antics of those referred to in this thread's opening paragraph.

Another perennial topic is people announcing that they have had enough and are leaving, few of whom actually do in reality. These folks are generally miffed attention-seekers.

More disturbing is the gradual and unannounced departure of members who make a valued contribution to this site, provide experience and services on the site and in meat space, and who make a positive contribution to the New Zealand motorcycle community. They do this not because they expect recognition but because they are folk who like being able to help others.

It is reasonably easy to assemble a list of "valued and positive contributors" who are no longer here. Some have different reasons for leaving, but for many the toxic, abusive, ungrateful and selfish attitude of some members ultimately proved too much for them. Without fanfare these folk have just logged off and never returned.

The world has pitifully few of these people. If the world is anything like Kiwi Biker, then it doesn't deserve them. We are poorer for their absence.
I can't comprehend what you said, but i think I get the jist of it?

[Toaster]

Has it occured to anyone that perhaps one of the reasons people stop spending so much time on KB is because of a change of life circumstances?

Exactly!! There IS life outside of KB... at least for some of us.

[SixPackBack]

Many interesting souls have left either completely or for extended periods of time for no other reason than moderator mismanagement or perceived[or real] moderator targeting.

Upon closer inspection this is to be expected. Individuals are picked not for their superlative HR skills or vast management experience but for something far less tangible and murky-no wonder they sometimes fail!

The only members of KB able effect any meaningful change or to manage disputes are members of the KB moderator team. The finger should be pointed firmly in their collective direction before targeting the audience, who have little or no control.

Usually comments such as these would be met with cries of 'if you don't like it fook off'.......ironically avoidance of the 'fook off' routine is now being treated with contemptuous mirth.<_<

[merv]

Another one I miss on here is LB and like Paul I don't see her too often in person these days. She hasn't posted since 23/08/2006 and says she is too busy and also discovered how to sleep in instead of getting on here at 4 or 5am, so she fits the category of changed circumstances.

[mstriumph]

I agree, KB should be a life sentence :rolleyes:.... providing it's a grammatical sentence, eh mr hitcher, sir? :chase:

[mstriumph]

............ The measure of a person is how they deal with an honest bitchslapping, being able to acknowledge their mistakes and get over it. That commodity is one that is seriously lacking nowadays, and its not just a KB thing................... sooooooooooo true, Bigfella .... sooooooooooo true!:( - they just don't make miscreants like they used to :rolleyes:

[Ixion]

..

The only members of KB able effect any meaningful change or to manage disputes are members of the KB moderator team. The finger should be pointed firmly in their collective direction before targeting the audience, who have little or no control.

Usually comments such as these would be met with cries of 'if you don't like it fook off'.......ironically avoidance of the 'fook off' routine is now being treated with contemptuous mirth.<_<

True, dat. The Mods Mantra is "Fit In or Fuck Off ". And now a mod is complaining that those who didn't "Fit in" have "Fucked Off". Which is certainly a loss , and I wish they had not. But I wille xtend that wish to al those who have 'fucked off' , or 'been fucked off", not just those who met with moderator approval.

Whne the site ethos is "Fit in or Fuck Off", it is not surprising that some of those who "fuck off' will be the more sensitive souls, while the tougher skinned will retort " Yeah, well fuck you , too"

[scumdog]

Blah blaah blah, Groundhog Day.......

[Usarka]

i have a hunch.

that hitcher may have an individual in mind

whos reasons arent related to mods....

[Kickaha]

i have a hunch.

that hitcher may have an individual in mind

whos reasons arent related to mods....

You obviously don't realise, it is always the mods fault:yawn:

[Mikkel]

i have a hunch.

that hitcher may have an individual in mind

whos reasons arent related to mods....

Or individuals - but exactly who Hitcher is thinking about is not obvious as there could be more than one...

Also, there could be more than just one reason for people choosing to leave the site!

As for any other assembly, it is both unfortunate and sad when contributing members decides to call it quits... unfortunate and sad for the assembly, mind you.

[Usarka]

If it's who i think it is then more than one is apt. if i'm right all the best, the site will be poorer in your absence


but i could be drunk.

[mynameis]

skidMark




















But he's back.

[skidMark]

One of the perennial topics of conversation on this site is moaning about how some shit stirrer has achieved the ire of the Moderators and has been sanctioned for breaking the site's rules and disrupting members' quiet enjoyment. Usually from the aggrieved shit stirrer in question.

Another perennial topic is one which begs the reinstatement of members banned for repeatedly objectionable behaviour. This usually comes from people either in or amused by the antics of those referred to in this thread's opening paragraph.

Another perennial topic is people announcing that they have had enough and are leaving, few of whom actually do in reality. These folks are generally miffed attention-seekers.

More disturbing is the gradual and unannounced departure of members who make a valued contribution to this site, provide experience and services on the site and in meat space, and who make a positive contribution to the New Zealand motorcycle community. They do this not because they expect recognition but because they are folk who like being able to help others.

It is reasonably easy to assemble a list of "valued and positive contributors" who are no longer here. Some have different reasons for leaving, but for many the toxic, abusive, ungrateful and selfish attitude of some members ultimately proved too much for them. Without fanfare these folk have just logged off and never returned.

The world has pitifully few of these people. If the world is anything like Kiwi Biker, then it doesn't deserve them. We are poorer for their absence.


I'm a prick on here and a little smartass, but i have actually contributed alot of helpful information, i gave cowboyz some advice today on punishment for the son on the pc, serious help. and was returned abuse.

i also helped katman by pming him how to embed a you tube video...

with the opening line ....since i'm not a total cunt... and told him...

the reply PM ...no thank you nothing of a sory instead he quoted

"since i'm not a total cunt"

then finished with, i beg to differ.

i'm not suprised people leave not for the rude stuff on here i think as alot is quite funny, but that when genuine help is offered not even a simple courtesy thankyou... not even silence, no instead the person helping gets slung abuse.

Gift horse...mouth, springs to mind.

ahh well

Karma's a mother fucker.

[MSTRS]

Karma's a mother fucker.

You only just learning that? Doesn't just happen to 'other people'....

[Katman]

Im intrigued to know why skidMark can make public the contents of a PM (not allowed I believe without the permission of the person in question), yet my post asking if he's still crying about it disappears.

[mstriumph]

because this is not a democracy

[part of its charm, methinks ....]

[jrandom]

[part of its charm, methinks ....]

Indeed.

I find the delicate dance of earning respect and kissing arse within the KB power structure quite fascinating; it's essentially an ongoing and focused experiment in the art of winning friends and influencing people.

[mstriumph]

......The only members of KB able effect any meaningful change or to manage disputes are members of the KB moderator team. The finger should be pointed firmly in their collective direction before targeting the audience, who have little or no control.




erm ..... how about SixPackBack for Moderator??
...... he's seriously GOOD at this sort of insightful stuff ....... and t'would be - interesting :niceone:

[MSTRS]

Im intrigued to know why skidMark can make public the contents of a PM (not allowed I believe without the permission of the person in question), yet my post asking if he's still crying about it disappears.

It's because, in a strange twist, Skiddy actually has some friends here....

[Hitcher]

Im intrigued to know why skidMark can make public the contents of a PM (not allowed I believe without the permission of the person in question), yet my post asking if he's still crying about it disappears.

Because yours was pointless drivel. And unnecessarily provocative. There was nothing in Skiddy's post that suggested anything had been recycled from a PM.

And there's no such word as Im.

[Fatjim]

Don't start your sentences with "because".

[Disco Dan]

Indeed.

I find the delicate dance of earning respect and kissing arse within the KB power structure quite fascinating; it's essentially an ongoing and focused experiment in the art of winning friends and influencing people.

*pulls down trousers* There you go... enjoy. :devil2:



It is interesting to watch and see all the different 'clicks' within KB interact, especially when people respond and get it oh so wrong... :devil2:

[Hitcher]

It is interesting to watch and see all the different 'clicks' within KB interact

Cliques, perhaps?

[Disco Dan]

Cliques, perhaps?

Um yep. Thats the one.

I'll start posting my draft university essays up here for you soon!!

[MIXONE]

IMHO I think if you haven't got a thick skin ,or can't grow one rapidly, when you are a newbie here some of the comments, particularly by the gutless anon red reppers, can be a little off putting and capable of scaring many a grown man/woman away.Not me but having been married twice and worked many jobs dealing with Joe Public has left my skin a bit like leather.

[Fatjim]

Cliques, perhaps?

Verb please.

[Katman]

There was nothing in Skiddy's post that suggested anything had been recycled from a PM.



Take another read. If you can't figure out that he's relating exactly what was in the PM then you certainly shouldn't be pointing out peoples deficiencies in their English.

[Katman]

the reply PM ...no thank you nothing of a sory instead he quoted

"since i'm not a total cunt"

then finished with, i beg to differ.



This part in particular Hitcher.

[Mom]

This part in particular Hitcher.

Shit mate you want to be careful admiting you said something like that you know. A person can get in trouble for abusing other members. Stay put there for little while I am sure the Waaaambulance will be along anytime soon to rescue you.

[imdying]

Take another read. If you can't figure out that he's relating exactly what was in the PM then you certainly shouldn't be pointing out peoples deficiencies in their English.Dont be so defensive... consider this; Hitcher is setting up 'case law' for you... He's saying you can't quote word for word from a PM, but you may relate the gist of one, in public.

[Katman]

Dont be so defensive... consider this; Hitcher is setting up 'case law' for you... He's saying you can't quote word for word from a PM, but you may relate the gist of one, in public.

That could well be useful for future reference but SM's post does actually quote the PM word for word. :whistle:

[Lissa]

The way to Survive on KB for me!!

1. Ignore the idiots, the people who's opinions irritate you, that you wholly disagree with... really ignore then, don't give them the time of day. Although I breach this rule when I get pretty darn annoyed :msn-wink:

2. Dont take things personally, unless its someone you know in real life and then you can always give them shit back in person anyway.. or a big smack, hug whatever.

3. Dont log onto KB too much. Its not real... not really. Alot of people on KB arent like they seem on Kb anyway. If you log on to much it starts to consume your life.

4. If you are a KB addict, go out and meet some of the KBers, this is the main reason I log on at all, to catch up with friends.

[MSTRS]

That could well be useful for future reference but SM's post does actually quote the PM word for word. :whistle:

Not so funny when someone ignores the rules at your expense, huh?

[imdying]

That could well be useful for future reference but SM's post does actually quote the PM word for word. :whistle:ADMIT NOTHING!!! :2thumbsup

[Katman]

Not so funny when someone ignores the rules at your expense, huh?

No, I actually find it funny that some moderators are happy to turn a blind eye to the rules when it suits.

[Maha]

No, I actually find it funny that some moderators are happy to turn a blind eye to the rules when it suits.


Fuck yeah...100% agree on that point, I see it every day, people quoting and leaving embedded files in the quotes, I did it once and only once, and got pinged for it, the Mods couldn't keep up with the amount that goes on. One other thing?.... thread dredging?.... I see an awful amount of 04's and 05's threads being added to, I added to one that was 20 months old and got an infraction, when will the madness end?..

[Kickaha]

when will the madness end?..

Perhaps when the team of mods doubles and they operate in shifts so they cover whats posted 24/7 and of course every single post will have to go through a mod queue to be appoved

[merv]

I've been away almost a week, did you miss me?

[Maha]

Hey where's swantiger?...I miss him so much....:weep:

[Hitcher]

I've been away almost a week, did you miss me?

Yes. But I'm buying a more accurate rifle...

[merv]

Yes. But I'm buying a more accurate rifle...

So are you taking over the pro-gun thing now Heston has gone?

Do we miss him too? - nah he wasn't a KBer.

[inlinefour]

Yes. But I'm buying a more accurate rifle...

I've got a target pistol thats got a huge scope on for accuracy and is also easier to hide in person. Down side is that its one shot and reload, but if you dial yourself in there is no excuse to miss. Have not used it for along time though and I might need to give it a clean, or not...:devil2:

[Bonez]

What was this thread about again?

[Edbear]

What was this thread about again?


Not sure... Did I miss something...?

[Bonez]

Not sure... Did I miss something...?Don't think so. Those that don't partake on KB probably still associate with the same folk, KBers or not, in real life anyway.

As they say life goes on. KB is not the end all to be of the NZ motorcycling scene as some here seem to make out. A good resource all the same.

[Sniper]

I believe Stu was never set upon by anyone but is no longer the 'user' (yes it can like a drug at times) he once was. Are you speaking of any memeber/s in particular?
Sniper is the only one that notice not being around.
Read into that what you will.

Thanks Maha

I havent read the entire thread so apologese if I somehow leave the tracks and start a new spin in some weird direction that leaves those in the know cocking their heads sideways and looking up Sunnysides pickup service.

KB can be quite an addictive side. Shit I had God know how many posts at one stage with sweet fuck all being of any use to anyone.

I made friends, I made people angry, I caused annoyance, I cause laughter, I was funny, I was tedious, I made no sense at times and I opened up new veiwpoints in seemly onesided arguments. But one thing I never did and will frustrate and anger me for a long time to come, is to make good the words of visiting people and meeting people that have proberbly long since forgotten the oddball I am/was ect.

But..... To those I am proud to call my friends, on and off KB (and you know who you are), you are never far from my thoughts and I wish you all the best.

If I have made no sense, then I cannot make it any clearer. If I have made sense, please let me know what Im going on about- Sniper

Until next time I can sacrifice an hours sleep to say Hi.

S

[Ixion]

...

If I have made no sense, then I cannot make it any clearer. If I have made sense, please let me know what Im going on about- Sniper

Until next time I can sacrifice an hours sleep to say Hi.

S

You were making perfect sense until you got to the bit about where your dick fell off and you now keep it in a test tube except when you are using it. I assume you were going on about how the chicks complain about how cold your dick is. Try putting Oxford heated grips around the test tube to keep things warm.