The battle to replace Clark begins!

[MisterD]

"Bullshit says Goff" (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/feature/story.cfm?c_id=1501819&objectid=10503174)

Looks like Goff has had enough of all the press Cunliffe's been getting recently and has decided he needs some headlines to boost his profile, if he's going to have a show of being Labour leader after the election...

[CookMySock]

LOL bring it !

[oldrider]

Clark will be Prime Minister of NZ until "she" decides to quit! :shifty: John.

[Skyryder]

Clark will be Prime Minister of NZ until "she" decides to quit! :shifty: John.

I gave her the sack in my last post. Without me she hasn't got a chance.


Skyryder

[fireball]

fuck politics.....

go for a ride instead

[avgas]

Clark will be Prime Minister of NZ until "she" decides to quit! :shifty: John.
Worked for that Jenny chick

[Swampdonkey]

Goffs gonna fuck her NZ domination plans right up........shes getting bumped soon.

[scumdog]

I've got a ferret here - more brains, character and more sex-appeal than the current PM imho.

[Dave Lobster]

I've found a replacement!!

[Robert Taylor]

My eldest daughter is in the seventh form at high school. At the moment they are doing a discussion on politics and I was horrified to hear from her that her teacher quoted Helen Clark as being a ''great leader'' Just another indication of many that the education system is full of unreformable lefties.

[MisterD]

My eldest daughter is in the seventh form at high school. At the moment they are doing a discussion on politics and I was horrified to hear from her that her teacher quoted Helen Clark as being a ''great leader'' Just another indication of many that the education system is full of unreformable lefties.

I suppose it depends on your definition - she's great if it includes an ability to avoid having shit stick to you and to remain at the top for a long time.

Personally my definition of a grat leader requires that they actually drive you somewhere better rather than just occupying the drivers seat for a long time, in which case: FAIL.

[Robert Taylor]

I suppose it depends on your definition - she's great if it includes an ability to avoid having shit stick to you and to remain at the top for a long time.

Personally my definition of a grat leader requires that they actually drive you somewhere better rather than just occupying the drivers seat for a long time, in which case: FAIL.

Well youve summed that up beautifully. Shes not yet in the same league as Mugabe but shes working on it...

[Swoop]

I've got a ferret here - more brains, character and more sex-appeal than the current PM imho.
Don't forget "teeth"...

Oh, and hair.

[Skyryder]

Goffs gonna fuck her NZ domination plans right up........shes getting bumped soon.


I think that's Labours only chance of winning. The feeling I get is that most oppose Clarke on a 'personal' basis and not on policy. Secondly I think Labour needs a new face. Goff could more than match Key on 'all' fronts. Correct me if I'm wrong but Goff does not carry any baggage from the Rodgenomics era.

The smart move would be for Goff as Leader and Anderton as his deputy. Anderton has a proven track record on electioneering and could be an asset to Labours poor popularity. His loyalty and age should not be of any concern to the younger Labour MP's and his higher profile would increase the popularity of the Progressives where they may add an additional member for any future coalition between Labour and the Progressives. It may well l prove to be the foundation move for a reliable partner for Labour in the future. Will it happen?? I doubt it. Too many egos' would be bruised. But it 'is' the move to make.

Skyryder

[steved]

The feeling I get is that most oppose Clarke on a 'personal' basis and not on policy. Secondly I think Labour needs a new face. Goff could more than match Key on 'all' fronts. Correct me if I'm wrong but Goff does not carry any baggage from the Rodgenomics era.

I oppose Clark/Labour on the basis of policy.

[ManDownUnder]

I oppose Clarke/Labour on the basis of policy.

You don't fit in around here do you??? :lol:

Seriously though... agreed.

[MisterD]

I oppose Clarke/Labour on the basis of policy.

I oppose Clark / Labour as a matter of policy :2thumbsup

[oldrider]

Well youve summed that up beautifully. Shes not yet in the same league as Mugabe but shes working on it...

Did you notice how well she blended in with the Chinese military?

As a child I constantly heard of the "yellow peril" then it all just died away.

Clark has revived it all in less than a decade.

I must start learning Mandarin, it will be the real official language of NZ soon.

New Zealanders exit via the Western countries only to be replaced by our friends from China courtesy of the lefty Labour government. :doh:

It's not looking too good for us in my opinion. :confused: John.

[devnull]

I oppose Clarke/Labour on the basis of policy.

:2thumbsup

What is it about people that makes them vote in socialists, even though every socialist govt that's ever been has failed, bringing poverty (and worse) as they do so? Maybe, deep down, people just don't want good livings standards, food, etc :crybaby:

Saw an article that summed up some stuff quite well - while the guy is talking about the socialist party in Germany, you could pretty much swap it to describe our own beloved Helen's regime:



The SPD is to Germany as the Liberals to Canada: the party to manage national decline. The long-term success of each has depended on turning "voters" gradually into "clients". From the humblest welfare recipients, up to big businessmen whose fortunes depend on sweetheart regulatory arrangements, each party pitches itself, as crassly as necessary, to the beneficiaries of state largesse. Their supporters therefore become quite inured to massive corruption, and revelations of ineptitude -- and remain so, as long as they are guaranteed preferred access to the government trough.

The intention of such governments is not to run the economy into the ground, nor even to destroy the moral order through experiments in social engineering. That is simply the natural consequence of their way of doing business. A Social Democrat or Liberal government will do whatever appears immediately necessary to defend its tax base; and since full socialism has been repeatedly shown to lead directly to economic collapse, a kind of "guided capitalism" is favoured. The long-term economic decline becomes a by-product of a political outlook that mechanically ranks national interests below party interests.

[Skyryder]

Did you notice how well she blended in with the Chinese military?

As a child I constantly heard of the "yellow peril" then it all just died away.

Clark has revived it all in less than a decade.

I must start learning Mandarin, it will be the real official language of NZ soon.

New Zealanders exit via the Western countries only to be replaced by our friends from China courtesy of the lefty Labour government. :doh:

It's not looking too good for us in my opinion. :confused: John.

I'm pretty impressed with Rudd. He speaks Mandarin. He also speaks another language that our polies have forgotton. It's called Your Mind-arin. :dodge:


Skyryder

PS The only thing I've seen Clarke wearing in China is the bloody awful black and white jacket. Jacket aside I am not very impressed with her at the moment.

[ManDownUnder]

oooo goody - a Labour Party pre-election enema... performed in public!

[firefighter]

I think Labour should change it's name to the "Beneficiary Party"

[Flatcap]

Well, I've already downloaded "Ding!, Dong!, The Witch is Dead" from the Wizard of Oz to play as I dance a jig once Helen and her comrades are voted out

[SPman]

Sod politics - Helen is grossly arrogant and Key & cronies have a "back to the 90's" air about them.
I'm voting for the Maori party!

Anyway, this is much more interesting


http://www.cycleworld.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=111

Nortley Fartster anyone - looks good!

[Robbo]

Bring Back Piggy :Oops:

[SPman]

Bring Back Piggy :Oops:
I suppose you could put him in the ashtray.......

[kiwifruit]

Mike Moore has lost alot of weight :cool:

[Skyryder]

Mike Moore has lost alot of weight :cool:


Still blowing a lot of hot air. Comes across still 'miffed' at losing the Labour leadership.


Skyryder

[cowpoos]

My eldest daughter is in the seventh form at high school.

I thought you sad she was to young for me to take out on a date??




At the moment they are doing a discussion on politics and I was horrified to hear from her that her teacher quoted Helen Clark as being a ''great leader'' Just another indication of many that the education system is full of unreformable lefties.

I have just had official comformation from a widly respected teacher [respected amoung her drinking buddies at least] that there are alot of lefties that are teachers...

That is a rather scary thought...teachers get a chance to scar the minds of our youth before they get a change to think for themselves!!

[Pixie]

My eldest daughter is in the seventh form at high school. At the moment they are doing a discussion on politics and I was horrified to hear from her that her teacher quoted Helen Clark as being a ''great leader'' Just another indication of many that the education system is full of unreformable lefties.

This isn't news
Everyone in the Labour party is either a union activist or some kind of teacher.
(although I use the term loosely)

[Pixie]

:2thumbsup

What is it about people that makes them vote in socialists, even though every socialist govt that's ever been has failed, bringing poverty (and worse) as they do so? Maybe, deep down, people just don't want good livings standards, food, etc :crybaby:

Saw an article that summed up some stuff quite well - while the guy is talking about the socialist party in Germany, you could pretty much swap it to describe our own beloved Helen's regime:

Two words:Socialist Envy

[oldrider]

Labour (left wing) supporters remind me of alcoholics desperately defending their bottle of piss! :doh: John.

[idb]

I wish National would give me a reason to vote for them...apart from them not being Labour.

They could start by getting rid of that smarmy Tony Ryall.

[jim.cox]

I wish National would give me a reason to vote for them.

Agree


...apart from them not being Labour.

Well they don't got Aunty Helen

[skidMark]

Don't care, never will, they are all fuckwits in a popularity contest anyway.

[skidMark]

Agree



Well they don't got Aunty Helen


*Uncle helen.

[cowpoos]

Don't care, never will, they are all fuckwits in a popularity contest anyway.

well in that case...stop whinging about everything!